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[–]dac0502 4324ポイント4325ポイント  (427子コメント)

The mailman is going to snag that $20 and you will be getting your UPS package tomorrow.

[–]Duliticolaparadoxa 2569ポイント2570ポイント  (290子コメント)

implying a crackhead riding through the neighborhood on a bike isnt gonna snag that shit at 9:16am

[–]treeGuerin 1456ポイント1457ポイント  (192子コメント)

Maybe OP doesn't live in an area with a lot of crackheads. This doesn't seem like something you'd do in the hood.

[–]kakmeatsammich 368ポイント369ポイント  (16子コメント)

A crackhead can smell a $20 up to 3 miles away

[–]TherapeuticThrowback 147ポイント148ポイント  (14子コメント)

[–]tybat11 81ポイント82ポイント  (3子コメント)

You sit on a throne of lies....

[–]bowser0000 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not anymore ;)

[–]MrClimatize 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes! I hope it gets big like all the other subreddits that have come out of these threads... Wait, oh yeah, nevermind.

[–]bowser0000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it is getting bigger ;)

[–]_copstabber_ 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]Smegmarty 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Joe Rogan attracts more crackheads than any other celebrity.

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[–]Riderz_of_Brohan 762ポイント763ポイント  (102子コメント)

You think crackheads trawl through the hood during working hours?

Cmon man, they do this for a living

[–]treeGuerin 202ポイント203ポイント  (88子コメント)

I guess crackheads might go to working middle class neighborhoods which by comparison to the ghetto is full of rich opportunity, but I think a crackhead would stick out like a sore thumb prowling around a rich area.

[–]laicnani 60ポイント61ポイント  (35子コメント)

Powder heads then?

[–]treeGuerin 91ポイント92ポイント  (25子コメント)

Yeah that makes sense. Plenty of coke heads in rich neighborhoods.

[–]MWhodak 112ポイント113ポイント  (18子コメント)

Coke heads trawling through upper class neighborhoods on bikes at 9 in the morning...yea I think I saw one of those guys early last weeks

[–]Ghostkill221 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rich coke heads aren't going to touch a 20 unless they really need to roll it and snort

[–]duffmanhb 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, but if you can afford a coke addiction to begin with, you probably already have a decent paying job. If they lost their job to their addiction, they've probably switched to meth to cut back on costs... So yeah.. I don't think coke heads will be prowling the streets mid day. They are instead playing golf and getting a little too friendly with the cute waitress who just brought them their 5th drink while they are barely on the 3rd hole.

[–]iammandalore 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You'd think, but somehow two thieves managed to run through yards in my neighborhood carrying a laundry basket full of electronics and a 40" or so TV and we're seen by at least two people who didn't call the cops or anything.

[–]dubstepping_tortoise 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

they don't even have to be crackheads... but here they definitely ride over to the suburbs in the morning after people leave for work and steal packages and things from garages left open... etc

[–]cmilliorn 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

They do! They get called in on and don't ever feel bad for doing it

[–]CykoTom 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

My neighborhood doesn't have a bus line. We're off their radar.

[–]beandaman 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well you could always put the money in an envelope rather then let it hang visibly.

[–]jellybeanclaws 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was my mum's logic, we used to have to leave the front door open for packages but then the inside door was locked. We'd leave a little note explaining this, but it HAD to be in an envelope. To stop anyone other than our post man seeing it.

[–]ImMartinez 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm thinking in put a £20 note at my front door and include this explanation:

This £20 are not for you so please don't take it. I'm trying to figure it out If I live in a good neighbourhood or not.

Just as an experiment.


Of course I'll be put a camera and shame on youtube whoever takes the £20

[–]anunnaturalselection 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then you'll be out £20 and know you live in a shitty neighbourhood. I'd rather not know and keep the money.

[–]The3rdWorld 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

totally worth it, i've been shamed on youtube for less.

[–]Megaross 13ポイント14ポイント  (25子コメント)

If I was a crackhead I would rob the rich areas.

What would I steal in the ghetto worth taking?

[–]ChequeBook 46ポイント47ポイント  (14子コメント)

crack?

[–]Megaross 14ポイント15ポイント  (11子コメント)

You get shot stealing crack.

Worst I get stealing this motherfuckers barbecue is he calls the cops and I get a warm bed for the night.

[–]Iphotoshopincats 25ポイント26ポイント  (10子コメント)

unless the cop shoots you and his partner sprinkles crack on you

[–]gosu4you 94ポイント95ポイント  (18子コメント)

I live in a nice neighborhood, and if you are stupid enough to tape 20 dollars to your front door that shit is gone because I'm taking it

[–]one-eleven 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

I live in a nice neighbourhood and you could tape a $1,000 to your door and it'll be there a week later. On the downside you could die and your neighbours won't ever check on you.

[–]duktalo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That last part doesn't sound very nice.

[–]CloudEnt 48ポイント49ポイント  (15子コメント)

Found the lawyer.

[–]LordAmras 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

Not a smart lawyer. The package is probably worth more than the 20 dollars.

Take the letter, wait for the UPS guys, forge the signature and you get the package and the 20 bucks.

[–]SmartToaster[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much. I could probably get away with this in my neighborhood so long as one of the high school kids isn't skipping class.

[–]PopWhatMagnitude 108ポイント109ポイント  (39子コメント)

Well seeing as the person wants their package left unattended at all costs and felt comfortable leaving money hanging, I sure they have a better understanding of the neighborhood they live in then you.

[–]The_Drizzle_Returns 66ポイント67ポイント  (23子コメント)

I sure they have a better understanding of the neighborhood they live in then you.

You would think that but people can be idiots.

[–]TomH_squared 16ポイント17ポイント  (15子コメント)

I work in IT. You have no idea

[–]LordAmras 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I agree. Most people that work in IT are idiots.

Source: I'm one of them.

[–]nocontroll 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

Or a drunk. If I was walking through his street after leaving the bars I'd totally see that bill. I'd take it.

Then proceed to tuck it under his door and try to write a note saying "Sorry I tampered with your sign but it's not safe to leave money on the porch! Sorry!".

I'm from Minnesota.

[–]TheRegistater 49ポイント50ポイント  (15子コメント)

Saw a lady driving behind the ups truck my my neighborhood. I live on a cold'duh'sack and when she was coming back I rode my bike infront of her car almost got run over to snap a pic of her and a car full up packages, got the plate to. I guess they nailed her pretty good down at the local courthouse.

[–]IntergalacticAsshole 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Crackheads are asleep at that hour.

[–]spank859 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not necessarily they could still be up from the 2 or 3 days before.

[–]nomnomnomous 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe. But the junkies have been up for hours.

[–]atomicrobomonkey 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

What magical land do you live in where you get packages that early? I'm lucky if a package comes before 4pm. I even had an OnTrac guy deliver a package at 8:30pm last christmas. He didn't even bother knocking or ringing the doorbell it was so late.

[–]TheRealKrow 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Implying this is even real. OP makes note, tapes 20 to it, takes picture, removes note and money, goes inside and uploads.

Boom.

[–]retryer 175ポイント176ポイント  (42子コメント)

I work for Fed Ex as a Full Time Courier basically from 9 am - 9 pm doing Deliveries and Pickups in a giant rotation throughout the day.

The amount of packages that get left on doors, notes that are taped on doors (Don't ring bell plz baby is sleeping, Leave package please!, Thirsty? Take a drink from the cooler, here is a small tip for your hard work) happens on a daily basis.

Now I do tend to work in Middle - Upper Class + Gated Communities so stuff being stolen happens so rarely that I don't keep track of it the random month it may happen to one person in.

One thing I do notice is the amount of people out and about, doing their lawns, sitting on the porch, helping a small child ride a bike ect is staggering. So anyone, crack heads or UPS included attempting to jack things off porches or money taped to doors tend to get these little watch patrols from the community hounding them down.

Your money and package is far safer then you'd imagine.

[–]ASinglePlural 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Social efficacy hard at work!

[–]anunnaturalselection 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd be worried the cooler is spiked and they're trying to abduct mail men...

[–]Sample_Name 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm guessing they were sealed drinks - pop cans and stuff.

[–]roraima_is_very_tall 77ポイント78ポイント  (6子コメント)

the $20 and the letter - the UPS person will have no idea about it.

[–]Heknarf 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Replace $20 with $5. Wait. Come back and steal parcel.

Bam, you've just made $15 and got a free mystery parcel.

[–]LordBiscuits 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is no mystery here. It's dildos. Pulsating, mains powered, 'big enough to scratch the back of your teeth with' dildos.

[–]LlamaJack 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the package since he'll now know what's on the way.

[–]spank859 24ポイント25ポイント  (23子コメント)

I highly recommend the UPS app to control when your packages are delivered and you can get text notifications as soon as the delivery is made so you can get home or call a neighbor and tell them to snag it for you. You can really limit the amount of time your package is out in the open.

[–]AuDBallBag 7ポイント8ポイント  (19子コメント)

If this app exists, why can't you just sign at time of delivery then. Like you get a notification to sign with a pic of where its been placed. Sign. Boom.

[–]lettuc3 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

Because then the driver has to wait there until you sign it. Most people would probably forget or get busy and then the driver has to stand around forever. Even if it only adds 1-2 minutes per delivery that is several fewer deliveries they can do a day.

[–]AuDBallBag 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

OK, so let's add a "your ups is within a 5 mile radius of your address" alert. And then put a 15 second window on the delivery alert before the driver can walk away. They will have been notified you're signing remotely, so they won't have to check if you're home or anything like that.

[–]lettuc3 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think they have a feature where you can just say you authorize it to be left at the door ahead of time.

[–]blay12 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you set up the "MyUPS" account thing or whatever it's called online, you can actually check a box on every delivery to say "Forego signature on a signature required delivery, and I waive all protections UPS would normally grant through signature". Basically you say "Yeah I don't want to sign bc I won't be there, just drop my package in this particular location!"

[–]Stopman 44ポイント45ポイント  (37子コメント)

Or maybe he'll just take the $20 and leave because the package didn't actually require a signature.

[–]Bodiwire 126ポイント127ポイント  (31子コメント)

I've actually been a delivery driver before, so I have a bit of insight to how this could go down. Forging the signature even under the circumstances described in the picture could cost the driver his job if anything goes wrong. It's not worth the risk for 20 bucks. If I forge the sig, drop the package and it gets stolen before the guy picks it up, or I put it behind a bush or something and he doesn't see it and calls to ask where it is, I'd be in big trouble because according to the computer I handed it to him directly and he signed for it. If you know your driver well and ask him to do this for you and work out where to leave it, he might do it for you, no tip required. He's still not supposed to, but a lot of guys will do it and so long as nothing goes wrong its fine. It's easier on the customer and the driver. But personally, I would never do it. I've been around long enough to see the million ways things can go wrong and bite you for bending a rule to help someone out. It's just not worth it. The proposed tip wouldn't factor in for me one way or another. I'm honestly not sure what the policy is or if there is one at all on accepting tips. It was never addressed in training and honestly it never occurred to me that anyone would ever offer me one but sure enough, I have been offered tips. Rarely, but it has happened. I never accepted them because I didn't feel right about it even if it is allowed. I'm well paid and it just seemed wrong to accept a tip for doing my job especially when I most likely made more than the person offering the tip to begin with.

[–]thebeginningistheend 60ポイント61ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you for your service.

[–]armiechedon 66ポイント67ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was on tour 2014'2016 in the roughest upper middle class gated communities. Him and his friends had to survive being tipped to their face. He will never be the same man again.

Thank you for your service /u/Bodiwire

[–]AOSParanoid 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

With UPS, you can leave and signed and dated note saying that the package can be left and they will leave it. USPS won't do this, but FedEx and UPS have done it for me every single time.

[–]FEDEX__vs__UPS 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

100% true. In fact I wouldn't even forge the signature because it would feel set up to me. Forging will get me fired, no warning.

[–]LargeMonty 1191ポイント1192ポイント  (204子コメント)

You can get an account and leave instructions online.

[–]captainkaleb 798ポイント799ポイント  (162子コメント)

The instructions will be disregarded, but you can leave some!

[–]IkLms 329ポイント330ポイント  (153子コメント)

Yup. They've disregarded it the last 10 times I've authorized them to leave it.

And then they removed the deliver more than once options too. It's apparently "better for me" if they try once and then go leave it at a random local store which is some sort of access point.

Yeah, no it's not. I fucking hate UPS.

[–]OuchyDathurts 479ポイント480ポイント  (121子コメント)

Just because you authorize it doesn't mean they can leave it. Some things can't be left no matter what, ever. You sign for it in person or it gets returned to sender. There's a lot of reasons a driver might not leave a package. If there's no good safe place to leave it, a covered place if its raining/snowing, if its clearly something valuable like a giant TV that literally everyone passing by can go "hey, thats obviously a brand new TV that's unattended, score!", alcohol, guns, medications and medical devices, anything where the shipper says go to hell we need a signature, if your address has had a claim that an item has been stolen there before they'll literally never leave anything there ever again. Even if you're in an apartment building and you've never claimed something but you've obviously got a klepto neighbor that stole something from another unit, the whole building is flagged now RIP. And since no one knows who stole it and if that person still lives there even if the thief moved out years ago they'll still never leave a package.

There's a million reasons something might not get left. BUT I can assure you the driver wants nothing more than to get rid of your fucking box the first time. If he can do it he's going to do it because otherwise he has to come back to your place two more times. That one box has now turned into 3 stops over 3 days. It takes more work to NOT deliver something than to just deliver the damn thing. They want to get rid of it just as bad as you want it, while the driver has discretion a lot of the time, sometimes things are out of his hands. So yeah, it's not just the driver trying to fuck with you, he's got hundreds of stops to do and he doesn't get to go home till he does them all, whatever it takes, however long that takes. It's not a vendetta.

[–]RiderMcRider 125ポイント126ポイント  (41子コメント)

You seem to speak from experience, bitter experience.

[–]OuchyDathurts 150ポイント151ポイント  (39子コメント)

Lol, I guess you get salty when people assume things. You hear a lot of the same stuff and it's like, no that's not really how it is. The driver isn't trying to screw with you, not delivering a package is more work than delivering it. Even if I'm tired and lazy I just want to get rid of the stupid box, trust me.

Yes UPS does a lot of dumb stuff, they're out to make a buck at pretty much any cost. They've screwed their drivers over a lot to accomplish it, service quality has gone down. Everyone suffers to make another buck and its shitty, no argument.

The driver is already in his truck before you've even heard the doorbell ring because that's just the nature of the beast, service has taken a back seat. He's got 200+ stops per day and pickups which can be pretty easy to loading pallets worth of heavy ass boxes. He can't go home till he's attempted all his stops, they're GPS tracking his every movement, he's eating on the go, just stuffing what he can in his face, he won't take his breaks or lunch because it'll slow him down and make his day take longer. If you add snow and ice on top of that it sucks balls, people don't shovel or invest in salt for some reason. His loader probably loaded the truck like shit so he's gotta spend time looking for a needle in a haystack, the package isn't where it's supposed to be it's buried under some tires 3 rows down for some god forsaken reason. His boss is texting him asking for an ETA when he'll be done so he can go help a different driver out. Bust your ass to get your route done so you can go see your kid's basketball game? Tough shit, Tim is way behind go help him out on a route you don't know where it'll take forever for each address.

The driver might come off as short with you or in a rush and he might be a really nice dude, it's just a shit sandwich. You might think "whats 1 more minute while I dry off from the shower and answer the door?" And that seems totally reasonable question, and in a sane world it's fine. But 1 extra minute multiplied by 200 stops is over 3 extra hours on his day! Things add up SOOOOOOO fast, you're just running like a chicken with it's head cut off trying to get done.

Management really asks and expects a ton from drivers. They tell you one thing but they want the opposite. It's a pretty difficult job, up there with rough construction jobs. You're busting your ass and earning your pay to be sure.

[–]biguglydoofus 25ポイント26ポイント  (12子コメント)

Then why are there so many stories about people getting notifications that a delivery was attempted, while people are home waiting for the package? Either the driver just leaves a note without knocking, or never bothers to get out of the truck.

[–]OuchyDathurts 43ポイント44ポイント  (11子コメント)

If there's no note on your door odds are the driver just made it up and said he attempted. That post it is literally his get out of jail free card. It's possible he scanned one and threw it in the garbage. But any driver who isn't a moron knows that slapping that note on your door means I was at your house 100%.

It's possible you didn't hear him, I don't know. But I've had people call and say I haven't come or knocked and I know 1000000000% I was there and I knocked and rang and left a note. I'm super thorough about it. So I don't know if they just didn't hear me or they're trying to throw me under the bus or what, could be an innocent mistake.

[–]nabrok 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've had luck when I legitimately was here and UPS left a note without a knock or ring and calling UPS and getting them to come back on the same day.

My upstairs neighbor has an even tougher time of it because his door is on the ground floor and there's no way he's hearing any kind of knock (even a cop knock), so you've got to ring the bell. He even has a note up about it, but people still don't read it.

[–]OuchyDathurts 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Usually they don't deliver twice as a rule. Though in some extreme circumstances exceptions are made.

Apartments can be a huge pain in the ass. Buzzers not working, speakers that rupture ear drums, names are never listed for some reason. A bad set of apartments can cost you so much time. You feel bad for the people too if its something where the super just hasn't fixed the buzzer yet for whatever reason. They've all got their quirks.

[–]madscientist970 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is there a way to skip the delivery attempt and just automatically go to a local store for pickup? I'd really rather do that than get off work and call UPS to be told it'll be out on the truck the rest of the day and there is no possible way to get it tomorrow.

[–]diemunkiesdie 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, you can set that up with your My Choice UPS account.

[–]Matra 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I ordered all the parts for a new computer a couple years ago, UPS left all the packages on the front porch of a house in a somewhat-shitty neighborhood, without cover, in the winter, at 8:00 PM, without knocking on the door. One of the packages was the case, which shipped without an additional box, so it's covered with pictures of computers, sitting in full view of everyone who drove by.

The only reason I knew they were there was because I got an email from NewEgg at 11:00 PM saying "Enjoy your stuff that got delivered."

[–]OuchyDathurts 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, if it was obviously labeled as something computer related he really shouldn't have done that. Maybe he's computer savvy and knows its a case so there's no harm in it getting wet unlike a component, but I highly doubt it. It should have been bagged and hidden or just not delivered. But shitty lazy people exist everywhere. Most guys I know are technology retarded so they think everything is a computer and super expensive and they can't leave it lol. People make some questionable decisions lol

[–]akn0m3 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

Do you know why a driver would say "delivery attempted and failed" when they absolutely have not?

There was this time when I was traveling the next day and needed something and was expecting delivery that day. I literally kept the front door open morning 8am to evening 8pm, and sat in the doorway all day. And at 4:30pm, I get a notification from Amazon that delivery was attempted and failed. I immediately call them, they patch me through to UPS, and they feign complete innocence.

[–]OuchyDathurts 19ポイント20ポイント  (16子コメント)

It's possible he attempted to deliver, but if that's the case he should leave an info-notice (the post it) to cover his ass, then he's got proof he was there.

It's also possible that the box ended up in the wrong truck and never actually got attempted. Sometimes things get loaded into the wrong trucks. Usually you have to still run the package which isn't in your route so you have to break your route and attempt a delivery which might cost you 10-15 minutes. So its possible the driver had your package, didn't want to take a big chunk out of his day driving way off route, delivering, then coming back to his route so he lied.

It's possible he just didn't ever attempt it. Some drivers won't be able to find your package and then it shows up finally at the end of the day. "God damnit! THERE IT IS!" He'll grumble to himself, some drivers might run it still, some might sheet it as attempted and failed and just try again tomorrow. While all all of these are possibilities my money is on this one. For whatever reason he lied and sheeted it as attempted.

Assuming he's doing his job properly any failed delivery will have a service cross on the package. It's like a cross divided into quadrants. Each quadrant will have a separate piece of info. Date, time of attempt, the drivers initials, and reason for failure to deliver (NI 2 Not In attempt #2, CLO H Business Closed Holiday, etc). So if you look at the service cross you can see when he's claiming he tried to deliver it if you wanted to call bullshit. Just note that the driver probably didn't look at the clock at that exact moment so the times might be fudged and rounded a bit but they should be in the ballpark.

[–]dakoellis 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

I know you're getting bombarded with messages but here's another. I guess I have 2 drivers that frequent my place. I went to my ups and left instructions to leave any package not requiring a signature at the front door. I'm usually not home when they deliver. One of the driver's will follow those instructions but the other doesn't and will leave the package at the front office which means I can't get that package until the weekend since they close at 5. I called in and asked them to never leave packages at the office and the person I spoke to said they would make a note.

A few weeks later, I stayed home for a weekday. I hear a slight slap on the door (not a knock and not a ring) so I get up to see what it is. There's a ups slip on the door saying my package is in the office so I run and chase the driver down. He doesn't have any packages on him and he's just putting these notes on everyone's door (had about 3 more in his hand). I asked him why he isn't leaving the package at the door like the other driver and he says he's not allowed to do that. Mind you these are packages I get delivered monthly (cat litter, are son canisters, etc). I told him the other driver leaves them no problem because that is what it says to do on ups my choice and talked to him about the conversation I had with the person at his hub and he kinda ignored that and just said he can't do that.

Is there any validity to what he was saying it is he just a lazy driver who can't be bothered to do his job properly?

[–]OuchyDathurts 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm assuming this is an apartment complex? One driver might fudge the rules and leave packages at your door when he's technically not supposed to be. Or the second guy could be being lazy. It's hard to know for sure. Like if your building has had a claim it'll come up in the DIAD as No DR (Driver Release, leaving a package at your door) so it's possible that driver 1 just fudges it and DRs anyway. Maybe he knows something driver 2 doesn't. Like for instance there's a building that I can DR in, but there's a lady that files a claim on a DVD. I know what the claim is, I know which apartment it is. So maybe even though I'm not supposed to DR there anymore technically I do anyway because it's silly to screw all the people of that building over over a silly DVD. So while I might know that, driver 2 might not, that is a possibility.

Some apartment management only wants deliveries to the office ever, so thats possible one driver knows that the other doesn't. Sometimes you've got a grip of packages for a bunch of different buildings within 1 complex. So I'll go in, call each apartment, leave a note and try to leave a message. If the person answers I'll tell them they can come and get the package at the front door (where I'm filling out info notices and calling everyone else) or they can grab it in the office, but I'm not bringing it up unless its a handicapped or elderly person. So I'll do that, call everyone, leave info notices and voice mails, grab all the stuff and bring it back to the truck then off to the next building. Do that for 4 or 5 buildings, then take ALLLLL that stuff and bring it to the office and have them sign for everybody at once. The perk of that is everything is signed for which is covers my butt.

There's one apartment where there's a little cubby door where I slide everyone's package into the office, then leave notes on the mailboxes. Every building is a little different.

So it could be a lot of things, too many variables to know for sure. Have you asked the building management if they have any policy? One guy could be following policy and the other one not. Don't know if its an accident or what though.

[–]akn0m3 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thank you. I knew he was bullshitting, but didn't know if it was someone skipping a portion of their route out of laziness, or something else.

Your reply sheds light on what it might be.

[–]OuchyDathurts 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's no way he just skipped out on a chunk of his route. They track EVERYTHING so if a chunk of his route just came back in the truck the boss man would have a few questions lol. Its possible it was fairly innocuous, but most like he lied.

[–]The_Real_Chomp_Chomp 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

"We see you are not home or available during regular working hours. Please stop by the local access point to get your package. No, we are not open after regular working hours."

Who the fuck thought this was a good business process?

[–]MBTAHole 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A multi-billion dollar company that exceedes all revenue goals??

[–]chickenbagel 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

My mom stuck a sign on the door with her signature telling UPS to leave packages at the door. It seems to have worked for her

[–]OuchyDathurts 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

They'll always try and leave it if possible but yeah, leave a note or better yet talk to your driver! If there's a little hidden spot they can stash it, or if you leave your garage service door open for him, or give him the garage code. He'll most likely gladly take you up on the option for a secure spot that makes you both happy.

[–]Freikorp 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

Where do you live that drivers have time to stop and chat? Those fuckers move fast, here. I don't think I could catch mine even if I wanted to.

[–]fullmetalbox 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are limited instructions you can leave (iirc its a check box on where to leave it) and its always up to the driver's discretion to leave a package. Also depends on what the shipper of package allows to be done to the package.

[–]PHAHTROX 74ポイント75ポイント  (23子コメント)

Oh my God. I think you have changed my life. Thanks kind stranger!!

[–]gloomdoom 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

As someone mentioned, you can suggest instructions but as a UPS account holder (as a shipper and also the UPS delivery management service they offer) they almost never follow whatever directions you leave (eg: please leave package by front door).

Even instructions that simple go unheeded.

Also, I'm not sure how people got the impression that you can electronically sign online prior to delivery for a package that requires a signature.

That is completely false.

If a delivery requires a signature by the shipper, there are only 2 ways that it can be obtained for that package to be left:

  1. At time of delivery whenever someone signs the electronic pad to confirm it was received.

  2. A physical signature on the hang tag that is left after a delivery attempt has been made, since if you read the back, signing that enters you into a contract/agreement that if you sign it and it's left and gets stolen, you have no claim against UPS or the company that shipped the item.

In short, the UPS system you're talking about (UPS choice or UPS plus) is pretty much completely worthless unless you want to pay extra for a specific delivery time (up to $40) or you want to have a package held for pickup.

Beyond that, it's a huge waste of time.

[–]Touch_Of_Red 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

If a delivery requires a signature by the shipper, there are only 2 ways that it can be obtained for that package to be left:

Is that a new policy, or is it common that it isn't followed? I've probably "signed" for packages a dozen times now by taping a note to my front door that says "I'm expecting the package, I'm not home, here's my signature for it" and signing the bottom. Works every time but I haven't had to do that in probably 2 years.

[–]aredna 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most packages don't actually have a "signature requirement" on them and the person won't get it unless you answer the door. If you live in an area with high theft then UPS will often require one. Or if the company shipping the package paid for that service they'll probably require one as well.

I'd guess that leaving the note on your door hasn't actually made any difference.

[–]somedude456 572ポイント573ポイント  (19子コメント)

I once left a note saying, "UPS dude: I'm here, I swear! You have my new phone and I NEED IT!!! Please beat the fuck out of the door as the door bell sucks. PLEASE!"

Dude did some closed fist BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. I answered the door and he was smiling/laughing and said, "I have a feeling you were expecting me."

[–]cotdang181 237ポイント238ポイント  (13子コメント)

USPS would have just taped that irritating pink piece of paper over your note.

Cause Janice the mail lady don't give a fuck.

[–]Happy_Harry 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of the stuff we get at work through USPS doesn't require a signature. The mail lady is in and out of here so fast all you see is a pile of packages on the counter that weren't there a few seconds ago.

[–]HowRiskyIsDatClick 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nah, USPS would have just dropped it at your door and gone on their merry way, at least that's what they do at my apartment complex.

[–]Enthused_Llama 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what UPS does with all my signature required packages.

Please, leave $400 of computer parts on my doorstep at an apartment complex and don't knock.

[–]distincthead 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my experience whichever rural route mailman we have that day pushes the random number generator on their dashboard and using this data, combined with the position of the sun in the sky, the length of my grass and whether or not he/she is suffering from alcoholic DTs that day - I might get my package left at the door or box. Unless it's really important; if that's the case I will have to chase it around for 3 days.

Our UPS and FedEx guys are awesome, though.

[–]farmtownsuit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They left a TV on my front porch. I guess I live in a good neighborhood because I got home from work and it was just sitting there waiting for me.

[–]boogiemaths 492ポイント493ポイント  (17子コメント)

Well sooooomebody lives in a nice neighborhood!

[–]SinisterOrca 134ポイント135ポイント  (15子コメント)

This is why the nice neighborhoods are great to rob.

[–]pyjamasbox 104ポイント105ポイント  (13子コメント)

Actually, you would probably want to rob lower-middle class people. They tend to have a sum of money, but not enough to invest in proper forms of security. The police (depending on your city, etc) will also tend to give more time to people of higher worth when it comes to investigating losses.

Non violent robberies with zero security footage on a noname family basically makes for a non investigation.

Didn't you all watch that discovery show where the thieves told you how to rob people?

[–]origin305 418ポイント419ポイント  (45子コメント)

You can sign for your package before it's delivered with the UPS app.

[–]Ranek520 421ポイント422ポイント  (34子コメント)

That seems to totally defeat the point of signing for a package... The signature is your agreement that the package was delivered and in good condition. If you sign before it arrives you have no recourse if it's not delivered.

[–]shikiroin 44ポイント45ポイント  (10子コメント)

When it comes down to it, it's a liability issue. You sign, saying it's ok to leave it, and they release themselves of liability once they set down the package. (I'm making assumptions, because that's the only way this makes sense)

Without a signature, if they leave it, they are liable for whatever happens to it.

[–]TheBeast1981 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

If the driver keeps your package you can't do anything about it. You will not know if the driver or someone else stole it. I'm always baffled when I see post about packages leaved at the front door without a signature. Is this normal? There are couriers that don't require a signature?

[–]mrbooze 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Virtually all home-delivery packages don't require a signature. Requiring a signature is rare.

It doesn't mean you have no recourse. You can still report that the package was never delivered, if you didn't personally sign for it. The burden isn't on UPS though, it's on the person who claimed to ship it. (They could have required a signature, or had extra insurance, etc.) You could report the charge as invalid to your credit card company and have the charge reversed. (The shipper is not going to win any challenge because they can't provide proof you actually received the item.)

[–]nosandwiches 205ポイント206ポイント  (17子コメント)

Unless right above where you're signing it says "I'm ok with you leaving it at my door."

[–]Jimmni 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

If you sign before it arrives you have no recourse if it's not delivered.

[–]smurphatron 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

Right, but your signature in this case means "I understand the risk, and I take full responsibility if anything goes wrong".

[–]TherapeuticThrowback 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people have cameras facing their porch that can be viewed on mobile.

[–]lukstery 164ポイント165ポイント  (4子コメント)

OP's neighbor here, thanks for the 20.

[–]GunslingerJones 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd like to imagine that you have a dickbutt stamp ready for these types of situations.

[–]Elliot_Crane 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha! Jokes on you, I know it's shopped because you didn't say "thanks for the 19"!

[–]Jonatc87 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

And now everyone on the interwebs can forge that signiture.

[–]TheOneAndOnlyRage 133ポイント134ポイント  (7子コメント)

I was staying in some apartments when I was younger, and as I was leaving I seen a note similar to this on my neighbors door, sans cash. Since I had seen the FedEx guy come into the neighborhood, I hung out and pretended to be the guy and signed for it. He was stoked when he got off of work.

Side note: We had chatted a few times before this, but afterwards him and his wife became close friends with me and my wife.

[–]essential_ 47ポイント48ポイント  (6子コメント)

$20 says this is a VR unit.

[–]Purplebuzz 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is going to start a series of these posts. Note taped to doors with the sole purpose of posting to reddit.

[–]DerpGrub 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

love being in a smaller town. i know the ups and fedex guys that deliver around here because they also deliver to the store i work at. so if im not home to sign they just drop by the store to have me sign it there.

[–]anorex 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or you could have just authorized the package to be left at the door from their website..for free.

[–]TheAssholeList 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Takes photo, puts $20 back in pocket, takes note down. Goes inside, wrings hands while giggling and thinking of Reddit karma.

[–]JackOfTrades11 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this was real he wouldn't have taped the bill to the front so any Tom, Dick or Harry could walk by and see a $20 taped to the door.

[–]Dyfar 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

this didnt happen. reddit upvotes anyways.

[–]FcknMacGruber 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

This stuff always seems so fake as I read it and lose interest while reading, but have enough interest to read the comments to see if anyone has the same interest as me...

[–]rcinmd 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

UPS drivers have the "right" to decide to leave a package or not. If they make a decision they aren't leaving the package there isn't anything you can do except call them and ask them to put it somewhere else that they (again) decide if it is safe.

Awful UPS horror story:

I used to live in a nice suburban neighborhood and for 7 years we received packages from Amazon prime with no problems. Then one day we got a message on our door about attempted delivery, which was odd since both me and my husband work from home. The next day I happened to be right next to the door when I saw the UPS man pull up and hop out of his truck (no package in hand and filling out a slip) and as he reached the door and started to stick it on I opened it and scared the crap out of him. He went on a tirade about how he has gotten in trouble because of theft and he "will not ever" leave another package on the doorstep.

We ended up calling UPS and after 2 weeks they finally spoke to the driver, they told us that he was frustrated because he was written up previously for a package theft and decided unilaterally that no package was safe. They ended up "moving him" off our route and packages continued to be left at the doorstep.

I just think it's odd that UPS will punish their drivers for leaving packages, and I think it's odder that they have sole authority to decide if they leave them or not. Obviously this guy was being completely unreasonable, but if he decided that my house was a risk alone there isn't anything I could have done.

[–]MIRAGEone 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Funny thing is.. The courier can take the note as an ATL (Authority to Leave), and leave the package, all while sticking to procedure. $20 wasn't needed.

Hell I've never been given straight cash for a delivery before.

[–]stateinspector 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I did this once. I was expecting a package that needed a signature, so I just left a signed note saying it's ok to leave the package here. When I got home, the note was gone and my package was there. I'm guessing they kept the note as proof.

[–]Cpt-Night 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just want to know who took the picture and ended up with the money.

[–]LethalConcept 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I pretended to be UPS person and took your twenty dollars. Sincerly, Literally the First Person to Walk Up to Your Door."

[–]OldSchoolRPGs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

UPS Driver here. I'm not going to risk losing my job for $20. Tell me which neighbor near you can sign for the package so that way I can get it off my truck.

[–]bad60000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can opt for delivery without a signature

[–]mcbain41231 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why don't you guys ever get your packages delivered to work??

[–]Reyes307 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a Upser the correct call is fold the note and the $20 and attach the delivery notice to the door(if it's signature required) $20 is a great gesture but falsifying documents costs people their careers. In the small community I deliver in, I'd add my cell# and meet you later if possible.