Imperium FC kicked for admitting that the Imperium has faults, and for having Asperger's Syndrome

zarvoxt · 7時間前

tldr : I asked for Leadership/FC's/line members to come on my stream and voice their opinions about the M-0 fight (that huge fight on Monday with 4k people involved) and the War in general. OP is a subcap FC from SMA (Imperium), came on the show (will be on Youtube soon, for now see here https://www.twitch.tv/zarvoxtoral/v/57362831 - from 03:55:00 ish), gave away no information that wasn't already well known to everybody, and discussed a few flaws he felt existed within the Imperium - within 24 hours he is kicked from his alliance.

JadeKrendraven · 7時間前

[15:54:24] Atreyu R > I have Asperger's syndrome.

Dreddit is recruiting!

TzuWu · 7時間前

Getting kicked from SMA is a blessing in disguise, is it not?

zarvoxt · 7時間前

Wow. Just wow.

I guess this is why I didn't hear back from the 7 Imperium FC's I eve-mailed about getting their side of the story. Jesus.

Wow.

edit: Dude it was good to have you on the show, you were honest and gave some interesting insight. I'm trying to be impartial and not take sides in this war but goddamnit - Imperium is not making it easy.

masterxc · 7時間前

[censored] > You shouldn't have done the interview, pretty simple. While russia, china, cuba and N.K. are people who don't want negative talks within their borders they are also countries no one wants ever really to poke, except for once in a blue moon.

I'm sorry, I just can't handle it.

ITT, Imperium compared to North Korea. Confirming the mittani is actually Kim Jong-un.

Kinis_Deren · 7時間前

Paging /u/kyleaparthos - is this really what the SMA leadership & community spirit is all about? Playing subservient monkey puppet to the Corp Diplomatique organ grinder?

ron_mexxico · 7時間前

An act of treason lmao oy vey

lexarson · 7時間前

Shit, app to adversity. We unironically don't treat people like shit.

Seleene · 6時間前

I get pretty hyped up and enjoy a bit of 'morale poasting', etc... but the day I start telling people they have COMMITTED AN ACT OF TREASON I expect my alliance mates to tell me I need to take a break for a few months.

And the whole thing about being seemingly happy to be compared to NK and China, etc... heh. Wow.

desertpolarbear · 7時間前

This is getting sureal.

Did they really think shit like this wouldn't get out?

Do they not realise how this looks on them?

centraspike · 7時間前

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

GrouchyOldGamer · 7時間前

Why would you want to rejoin a corp that was so shitty to you?

Callduron · 7時間前

Just in case you're unsure this is really strange behaviour by Goons. You did nothing wrong.

I doubt it has much to do with your CEO or SMA leadership as such, the alliance seems to have no option but to do what Corps Diplomatique tells them to do. As The Judge described in the CO2 post they've become very controlling and perhaps are getting more and more controlling as things go badly. Under Sion's leadership they've become a bunch of paranoid bullies - should be called Corps Undiplomatique.

Best of luck with your Eve adventures wherever you land.

Blawrf · 7時間前

an act of treason, really

Tappitss · 7時間前

And this is why we all fight the goon.. right here boys and girls...

NedFlanders9000 · 7時間前

Its not about the jump network.

Its about people ~not knowing their place~

ElleRisalo · 7時間前

Just another check mark on Martini's list of things failing null entities do.

jeffraider · 7時間前

YOOOOOO HAHAHA HOLY SHIT GOONS GG

Rob_Kaichin · 7時間前

[15:49:59] [censored] > You shouldn't have done the interview, pretty simple. While russia, china, cuba and N.K. are people who don't want negative talks within their borders they are also countries no one wants ever really to poke, except for once in a blue moon.

Yeah, North Korea, that country that everyone leaves alone, except for China, the US, South Korea, Japan and so on. Russia, a 'super' power, China, where the economy is made up and the stats don't matter and Cuba, where it's good to be a communist, unless you want something you can't have.

Join the CFC, we're starving and sanctioned, our own people fear us.

Saint_Patrik · 7時間前

But as it stands for now you won't be allowed to come back to SMA.

This is whats called failing upwards

funlesss · 7時間前

I hear the JB passwords are 420 too.

You didn't get kicked for having Aspergers, that's just click bait.

mahatma666 · 7時間前

Given just how easy it is to get an alt into Karmafleet, I don't know how anyone could think the jumpbridge network is some sort of tactical secret. It's enough to make me doubt the authenticity of this.

Oskiee · 7時間前

[16:07:57] Atreyu R > If [censored] ever leaves the SMA...? [16:08:37] [censored]> If we ever do leave SMA, at the moment we don't plan on it. But yes if we leave you can apply back to us.

Why would you want to reapply? If they didnt fight for you to stay, especially over "omg you hurt mittens feelings, you gotta go" bullshit and just bent over and did what the "higher ups" told them, then fuck them.

DefinitelyNotAPhone · 6時間前

Mittens seems pretty hellbent on keeping up this whole "I'm literally Hitler" narrative.

SteakAndAle · 5時間前

So, while this is obviously dumb and kicking the guy is a bullshit move, saying you got kicked "for having Aspergers" is a bit disingenuous. They're being paranoid, not discriminatory. There's no need to pander.

Alljump · 7時間前

Fuck your corp for not backing you. I'd advise you move on because if they didn't have your back this time they won't in future either. If you really want to stay I'm sure good guy /u/kyleaparthos will square this all up for you.

noirpied · 7時間前

Pwn N Play seems like a real swell corp

Rhydderch7734 · 7時間前

You misspelled "CFC FC"

camboj · 7時間前

Not a TMC sponsored streamer I guess?

MarcScaurus · 7時間前

Crazy. Just insane.

When I was EIC/ops guy/whatever for TMC, over the course of 2 years, I must've ranted about orgs like NCdot and N3 refusing to give us interviews or even chat with TMC-affiliated players. We had people threatened with expulsion from Test, NCdot, and BL (at least, according to them, ymmv) for simply wanting to write about Eve and present their point of view on things. As a result, TMC was always a bit lopsided - but I could always rest easy knowing that it wasn't because we were shutting the other sides out. It was because they chose not to engage.

Now, to see that very same organization essentially enacting the same policies (and quite hypocritically, I might add: see also Laz's live stream interview with Crasskitty and AMA stream afterwards)...

I used to think Goons were assholes, but my kind of asshole - loyal to their own and everything else can burn. And maybe they used to be. But dumb bullshit like this is a great example of how not to run shit. At least, that's what we all used to say when it was the other side doing it.

GERMAQ · 7時間前

1) uncensored version please

2) kicked or blacklisted. If blacklisted, someone provide blacklist screenshot

3) the JB map is practically public. Just join karma, get auth'd and copy into garpa

eveonline2016 · 7時間前

[15:49:59] [censored] > You shouldn't have done the interview, pretty simple. While russia, china, cuba and N.K. are people who don't want negative talks within their borders they are also countries no one wants ever really to poke

Excellent use of logic right there.

Do yourself a favor and find yourself an alliance where the people in charge actually are smart instead of just sounding smart.

CatatonicDawn · 6時間前

Horde is recruiting, and always after more FCs. Fair warning, you may experience some culture shock coming out of the Imperium

DeeRockafeller · 5時間前

This is Vile Rat type espionage to get OP into MBC FC roles to provide valuable Intel to goons. Goons wouldn't make it too obvious and probable try to make OP look like above average FC. However later on in the war he'll stab MBC right in the urethra right at some crucial time.

Goons greatest wins are not from straight up fighting but from sneaky spy bullshit.

Laztel · 6時間前

Sorry to hear this happened its really fucking stupid >.> I asked in illuminati and was told that it wasn't GSF directors that said you needed to be kicked.

I'm face palming so hard right now.

Zenoidan · 7時間前

"You know what we should do"

"Whats that?"

"Kick this guy and create a PR nightmare because we are insecure and worried the Imperium higher ups will think we are incompetent."

::Sits in Captain's chair::

"Engage!"

Well done you magnificent morons.

https://media.riffsy.com/images/24a77402dd926a5ceb76a5cc68818b96/raw

suitonia · 7時間前

THIS IS LOTKA.ORG

bayonnefrog · 6時間前

It's ironic about how they joke about being "bad at eve" and don't care and "here to ruin you game" when they themselves are the ones who take it way way too seriously.

_EasyTiger_ · 7時間前

What a bunch of pretentious neckbeards who totally remind me of BOB

Akrasjel · 6時間前

High Treason

ElleRisalo · 6時間前

This post reminds me of this gem. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3506zh/cfc_member_blacklisted_for_downvoting/

XavierVE · 5時間前

[15:49:59] [censored] > You shouldn't have done the interview, pretty simple. While russia, china, cuba and N.K. are people who don't want negative talks within their borders they are also countries no one wants ever really to poke, except for once in a blue moon.

Totalitarianism #1! That's just a great paragraph. Only in EVE.

aryndelvyst · 6時間前

SMA you dumb shits why are you kicking people for doing interviews. JFC. That's hella gay. Like so gay. I'm gay.

fenixdowncobol · 5時間前

As someone with actual asperger's, fuck you for trying to use it as a crutch.

ReverendMak · 5時間前

Aspergers means you have difficulty with social intuition, but I don't see how that's relevant here. It's just logical that an FC not grant an interview during a war without first checking with a diplo. I'm not saying I agree with the decision to boot, but dragging Aspergers into it seems cheap, illogical, dishonest, or some combination of the three.

whipdiddywhip · 7時間前

i think someone is taking this game a little too seriously

Stukya · 7時間前

https://www.twitch.tv/zarvoxtoral/v/57362831

Starts at 3hr 50minish

shitpostplzignore · 7時間前

DREDDIT IS RECRUITING IMPERIUM FCS

fraynetrain · 7時間前

JOIN HORDE, its super fun

haimeekhema · 7時間前

loooooool

i love every bit of this

Ziddix · 7時間前

I am pretty certain this guy wouldn't have been kicked if he had been in any other Imperium alliance.

This is just SMA being SMA.

noiserr · 6時間前

well that's shitty.. I listened to the interview live yesterday. I didn't think he said anything the enemy already doesn't know.

Corusca · 6時間前

checked thread, saw it was SMA

was not remotely surprised

Jalonis · 6時間前

TRI is recruiting, we have lots of autistic people. See: RiseofFilth.. Everyone in SASH

FtsArtek · 6時間前

Yep. Goons don't treat people well, I'm glad I left when I did.

And don't stress about the aspergers. You're not alone mate, and almost everyone who talks shit about it doesn't know what they're talking about. Stay strong, see if PH or someone will take you as an FC and show the goons what mistake they made.

Bap1811 · 7時間前

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Bierat · 7時間前

Dreddit is Recruiting!

KyleAparthos · 5時間前

So, already replied directly to a comment in this thread that was pinging me directly.

...then I realized that like four or five comments were pinging me directly. Sorry for the delay! I overslept after staying up late last night and having class cancelled today.

My response thusfar is as follows:

So. As best as I'm understanding the situation from chatting with our Skymarshal and a couple other people is that the aforementioned Skymarshal was weirded out by the talk of JB networks and super dropping in the public.

He then poked a director of this guy's corp to ask if said director was also uncomfortable with it, and the corp director was the one who decided that it was unacceptable behavior and to kick him.

How this translated into the chatlog of "leadership mandates your removal" or whatever is beyond me since nobody I have talked to thusfar has said anything about mandating his removal. If I ascertain that someone in leadership mandated his removal for "admitting the Imperium has flaws" or whatnot I'll be seriously pissed.

It's also worth noting that most of the people in this thread have seen my comments on r/eve plenty of times before and know that I've on multiple occasions admitted that SMA and the greater IMP are not perfect organizations, and openly fessed up to certain flaws. If we mandated that people were kicked for telling the truth, I wouldn't be still serving as a member of SMA leadership.

TL;DR: Skymarshal asked a corp director if said corp director was cool with this. Corp director was apparently VERY not cool with this. At least that's the best of my understanding right now.

WilburHiggins · 7時間前

SMA just needs to leave the Imperium and get their shit back together in low sec. They can be good but being tied to the Imperium has fucked them and anyone else that is there. Fuck those guys, I am moving my shit in to help when I get home.

StarLord1984 · 7時間前

I hope you join one of the good guys now and help burn CFC to the ground

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