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AllThe Truth about Brandon Woodie vs MacD/Sky -With Evidence Every Step of the Way. (self.smashbros)

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https://twitter.com/SkyWilliams/status/715298790559850496

Here you will find my official statement on the matter. In this post I dismantle every point he had against me with evidence, testimony, and facts.

Here is MacD's response as well. https://twitter.com/SPY_MacD/status/715298983363678209

I can't speak for McCain but I will be here VERY active answering any and all questions as soon as I get out of the shower.

I have nothing to hide. Absolutely nothing and I have no problem showing anybody whatever they want.

I didn't want to do this. I feel like my hand was forced. I feel like I was pulled into this for an illegitimate reason. normally I wouldn't care - but I've been playing smash competitively since 2003. I've been playing longer than some of you have been alive and whether or not you like me we're family and you're stuck with me because I'm an elder in this community.

So I thank the mods and you for giving me a platform to tell the truth to my family.

Again. I'm here answering anything you want in the comments below. I won't avoid anything - if I don't answer it just means I didn't see it.

Thanks.

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[–]Winnarly[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (5子コメント)

As both an apology and a courtesy to MacD and Sky, we are allowing both of them to share their side of yesterday's events. This thread will be deleted in 2 hours and 45 minutes, which is how long SmashCapps' thread was up. No further discussion or submissions on this topic will be permitted in /r/smashbros. Please remember to draw your own conclusions for yourself, and remember that, as always, witch-hunting is not permitted.

Edit - Oh, and I forgot to mention. This is never happening again. This type of post will never happen again on /r/smashbros.

[–]_spraynardkruger 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sexual assault is a very serious issue. Accusations of sexual assault are an equally serious issue. One must be sensitive to not victim-shame or blame, but at the same remain vigilant so as to not create more victims. First of all, I don't know why the original post was allowed here. This should not be the forum for such an issue. We shouldn't air-out other people's dirty laundry. While I understand that it was not done with bad intent, I am disappointed in the mods here, and more so in /u/smashcapps for that. Sky's post is much more in-depth and informative than Brandon's initial post. But frankly, they are both lacking concrete detail and at this point don't seem to be anything more than he-said she-said.

If there is a police investigation and these allegations are confirmed, I think THEN it makes sense to inform the community. Doing so before hand is a huge risk to all those involved and only hurts everyone involved.

[–]NNovis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. An outside third party needs to come in and investigate and that isn't going to be anyone else here. I'm about to sell my WiiU and/or copy of Smash right now, I'm so frustrated. THis is no longer a matter of the community coming to a consensus. EITHER WAY, sexual harassment or not, laws were broken and this his pathetic.

[–]WILL_NOW_VANISH 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

This sounds like a super weird dynamic. You're really not meant to just grope a 16-year-old, or anyone, just because they haven't told you to stop yet. On the other hand, it seems crystal clear to me (based only on this) that Sky was not negligent, nor enabling any harmful behaviour. And I guess that's what needed establishing here.

[–]Airilsai -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Sky is innocent of what the other guy blamed him for, but this MacD guy sounds absolutely disgusting. Who the fucks acts like that? Why is anyone letting that shit fly?

[–]WILL_NOW_VANISH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I'm 16 right now and would find that very intimidating and uncomfortable.

[–]Austinz611 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

MacD is a very affectionate person. Often relaying those emotions through touch, and it seems through this side of the story when people make it clear they are not interested he backs away.

He also had no clue about Seth's age. He backed off way before the subject of age could even come up.

[–]WILL_NOW_VANISH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok, I understand that this was an accepted facet to MacD's persona in the house, but I do feel that this explanation is partly self-contradictory. If he was so affectionate that he was conveying it through touch before he knew Seth's age, I subjectively believe that his behaviour was inappropriate. Of course things that make sense and are accepted in person don't always translate on paper like this, but I feel that such a paradigm can be very imposing on others - if someone touches you in a way that you don't like, it's distressing to feel that the people around you condone it, and I'm glad that Seth was able to clearly set a boundary that was respected.

[–]KiwiStrawberrys 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just want to play video games.

[–]IAmArique 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't we all just have fun? Seriously...

[–]http://i.imgur.com/9fPGzNo.jpg - outdatedOutworlds [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Then why are you not doing that.. we aren't keeping you here, silly

[–]LudwigAhgren [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For anyone curious on what would happen if this were to go to court.

Suing for defamation/libel/slander requires all of the following to be true and proven in court.

  1. That the false information was published. Putting something on reddit is considered publishing.

  2. The information published as truth, must be proven false. It is extremely hard to prove something as false, but with enough physical evidence, eye-witness stories and confessions, that could happen.

  3. The defendant must prove that the false claims caused damage. For a case where the claim is sexual misconduct, damages do not have to be proven. I don't know the specifics on 'enabling' sexual misconduct, but it is somewhere along the same lines.

  4. The most difficult one. Sky is a public figure. He puts himself into the public light through social media and YouTube. If a public figure sues for defamation, he/she must prove that the false statements were made with "actual malice" or "reckless disregard for the truth".

This one is nearly impossible. It's why magazines and tabloids can post straight lies about celebrities and not get sued into oblivion.

Sky would have to go down the "reckless disregard for the truth" route, but even that route involves looking at past publications and viewing whether the person has a history of disregard for truth. The word reckless is what makes it difficult because it needs to be at a clear and extreme level.

3/4 will not cut it and the charges would likely be dropped after an extended court battle.

[–]The_King_Crimson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

All I can hope for at this point is that everything is handled professionally and with some amount of tact.

[–]TheGodKira 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

While I think this is very brave of you to do this, I feel that this is not the right place to have questions thrown at you. I think you should keep this a private matter between those involved and yourself, rather than let a situation like this go more public.

[–]EnRainbows 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think due to the fact that they were both accused of this without their point of view represented, it's fair that Sky gets to do this.

[–]The_King_Crimson 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair he's only posting this on Reddit because the other guy did it first without giving Sky or MacD the opportunity to defend themselves. He just made a thread of wild accusations that stayed up for hours.

[–]Richitt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

One thing I'm upset about is how smashcapps didn't bother asking for sky's side, almost on purpose, as if she already made the judgment to believe sparky without hearing both sides of the story.

[–]IamRider 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

that's some 17 page CLG manifesto right there lol

[–]kino373 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

we donezo now boys

[–]jjjjford 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Austin "Link" Shin returns to the eSports scene as a smasher

[–]ChiboSempai[🍰] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've only read MacD's side so far, and my only question to it so far is "Sky thought it would be a good move to help us become friends again after the previous instances." What previous instances? Based on MacD's side of the story, it sounds like nothing bad ever happened. The only potential thing was the Halloween night, but if someone acts a bit much while drunk one night, I doubt that's enough to ruin a friendship over to the point of loaning rent money to help fix it.

[–]gooncat2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly what i was thinking

[–]Prophet6000 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

This really should of been handled in private after reading both parts idk what to believe lol. Good luck to all involved gonna go play smash.

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

idk what to believe lol.

That's not a bad thing. These situations are rarely black and white. But everything is on the table so you can make your own judgments.

[–]idk982 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It should have been but Sparky and Capps decided not to and now, it's only fair that Sky get the same platform they used in order to refute a claim that got so much attention via reddit.

[–]lit afnordanix 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

get ur popcorn boys, shits about to get lit

[–]DragonEevee1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Its a terrible situation were in, but popcorn will be strong here.

[–]MoeHentaiMiku [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"These post Doc smash kids are not and never will be apart of the actual smash family. They can think they are but they are not."

:<

Outside of that, I wish this whole event never happened.

[–]sds_phage 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

So I'm not a part of the Smash community and I know nothing about any of these people involved other than Sky. I'm a huge Sky fan. Have been for years. And I've gotta say man -- this sucks. I'm so sick of this weird drama that YouTubers keep getting wrapped up in. Sky -- I gotta level with you. When you did your video a day for a whole month I fell in love with your channel and your content all over again. I couldn't wait for the next video to come out. But this is stupid. And I'm | | this close to unsubscribing from all of your media outlets. Pull it together man and get away from this stupid stuff.

[–]SirFancyWolf [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This isnt even Sky's fault... Hes getting pulled into this because of the false accusations put towards MacD, and because he was the owner of the house at the time.

Its also not uncommon for big E-celebs to get wrapped up in drama because people who actually dislike Sky will do w/e malicious thing they can to defame him.

If you really enjoy Sky's content and call yourself a fan of his then none of this should effect you, he is just trying to make sure his name isnt drug through the dirt for something he didn't do. Instead of saying your going to unsubscribe from him because people keep throwing drama his way why dont you act like a real fan and support him with all this mess. He didnt ask for any of this, and blaming him by unsubbing or unfollowing only hurts him more.

[–]sds_phage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't want to unsub from him. But all of this hurts his channel and his content. He should be an adult and a professional and not even have any of this happening in the first place. Wanna know why pewdiepie doesn't have anyone starting drama with him? Because he's a professional adult.

[–]duckhunttoptier 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I feel like MacD didn't intend to cause any problems, didn't try to rape anybody, it just got uncomfortable and people didn't realize. Everybody fucked up now can we eat cookies and make fun of minecraft lets plays again

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

can we eat cookies and make fun of minecraft lets plays again

Now THIS I'll drink to.

[–]duckhunttoptier [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

care for a drink of some top notch wine from the finest vineyards of northern italy?

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'll take twenty!

...I may have a problem.

[–]Knee to Falcon Punch to Down TauntCaptainZer0dew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has this (or will this) affected any of the other people living with you or the people who work with you in content making?

Also, I am really loving the honesty you're giving us.

[–]my bSnipey13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I sympathize with you here, but I don't believe this should be a Q&A. You've told your side of the story, and I hope this turns out well, but I don't know if it should be done this way before everything is sorted out. Best of luck.

[–]Austinz611 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's amazing how the story changes once actual facts come out. Good on you for taking the time out of your day to publicly address this situation. I hope it hasn't been too stressful for you, and everyone can put this behind them and move on with their lives. I hope if anything illegal actually went down those who did it are punished in accordance with the law.

[–]CrimePilots [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wasn't apart of this event, so i wont be making any judgements. But, it seems strange that these accusations would be made for no reason. And if they did happen, lying and saying that they didnt is no bueno. Again i know nothing except the statements each party has made, so i'll keep quiet until this is all dealt with.

[–]marcelperez24 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I dont know who MacD is but anyone who touches someone without their consent is an disgusting human being, anyone who says "its how he expressess himself" are also terrible human beings.

AND HOW THE FUCK SRE YOU PEOPLE CALLING IT DRAMA??? ITS A SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE AND ALL YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IS YOUTUBE DRAMA???

It is a given since THIS was posted here and people who are fans of either person are going to ignore the actual accusation and just hope their favorite youtuber isnt an accomplice in this since they dont care about the victim.

as a fan of Sky i'm disgusted at him and the fans on how they're handling this.

Sky, would you please deal with this like an ADULT instead of posting in a stupid imageboard full of 12 year olds who dont even know what sex means? Having an echo chamber of hugbox fans to hear you out wont do shit in a court case, you're HURTING the community by giving attention to this like you're doing (Sparky also was dumb by posting here)

tldr: stop being a child and responding to children and DEAL WITH IT like the adults you are and when its OVER come back to tell us what happened.

[–]googlemynumber 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

wtf?

[–]oblock300x420x69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brandon has no factual evidence that anything ever happened. Like it or not, the burden of proof is on the accuser in US justice system, and it looks like sky and MacD just tore apart anything Brandon had. Niggas went Phoenix Wright up in here

[–]SmashCapps -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What is your response to this tweet from Sparky in particular?

[–]kalelkay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Did you even read Sky's post? He already talked about Seth, as well as Seth talking himself.

[–]agrarwirt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

looks like that guy cares more about the seth incident than seth himself, huh

[–]Wariosmustache [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In the previous thread, you posted a comment that I found deeply concerning, and would like your clarification on:

It's a large part of the thread, but it can be found in this screen shot: https://archive.is/XtWzM#selection-11711.0-11726.0

Okay. Mac D didn't rape him. Sexual assault maybe but it wasn't rape I can promise you.

Yet in your report, one of your concluded statements was:

Sexual assault is never okay. Rape is never okay. From where I stood - I didn't see Sexual assault.

What changed in the few hours between the first and second such that it went from a "maybe" to a "definitely not"?

Also, are you still considering defamation charges, and will it depend on the police report being filed against MacD?

[–]NNovis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

MODS! Make a damn decision and stick with it! Stop dipping your toes in the water. Have ANYONE talked to lawyers yet? Has anyone thought this through at all? I think the apology needs to come from the mods at this point.

[–]Winnarly 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Actually, yeah. I think at this point everyone has talked to lawyers, but Sky still really wanted to get his word in.

[–]NNovis -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Then I won't say anymore but this: you guys seriously dropped a ball here. If there were in fact "victims", you damaged any credibility and ability to come forward in the court of law to stop more victims from being so. If this is all horribly taken out of context, you damaged many people reputations for no reason other than "we wanted to break the story first". Bad job.

[–]FunctionFn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"we wanted to break the story first"

Both parties approach us on their own accord. We have never pushed either party to post, and it took a lot of convincing on Sky's part to have us allow this post.

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We honestly don't care who gets what story first.

[–]AcousticConfusion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh shut up. The mods are doing a wonderful job. This will be deleted in 2 hours and you can go find something else to bicker about.

[–]tokyoutea 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This matter was sorted legally, Sky got permission from his lawyer to publish this. It's the time for him to sort out public opinion.

[–]CarlDaWombat -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was Sparky's Skype conversation with you legitimate?