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Would you consider Memphis a scouting failure? (self.reddevils)
manutd_ が 31分前 * 投稿
[–]black_squireMartial 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 28分前 (11子コメント)
No a scouting failure. Just taking some time to adjust to a new league. Not completely unheard of given he's from the Dutch league.
[+]manutd_[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 23分前 (10子コメント)
It is a scouting failure in comparative terms if we look at what other top teams who integrated youth got out of them. Memphis was nowhere near as ready as Coman or Dybala who've had stellar seasons.
[–]itsandercontrolBerbatov 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 21分前 (6子コメント)
We don't know if Coman or Dybala would've struggled in PL.
[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 17分前 (5子コメント)
And they play for better sides, both in terms of talent (especially Bayern) and identity. We're just making it up as we go along.
[+]manutd_[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 15分前 (4子コメント)
That's an invalid excuse because Martial has done much better than Memphis in the same system because he was much better prepared (more talented too).
[–]macismydog 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 12分前 (1子コメント)
Martial is the exception not the rule.
It's very uncommon for a kid his age to move to a new country, force his way into the starting 11 and perform as well and as consistently as he has.
[–]manutd_[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分前 (0子コメント)
Yeah and our scouting has to ensure that if we lay out 35m for a player he is nearly ready to perform and won't take 2 years to adjust.
[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分前 (0子コメント)
Martial has played better for sure, no doubt about it. But each player is different, you can't just immediately plug them into any situation and expect them to work. So I agree, "scouting" and planning are required to acquire players that fit what you're trying to do as a team. If we had bought Memphis for just this season, he's a failure. But we bought him for a longer time frame, and that frame has a built in period for growing pains. He also hasn't been put into the best position to succeed by the manger, so I really don't get the hate for him.
[–]jbiresqHerrera -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4分前 (0子コメント)
Because he was playing in the French league, which is much better than the Dutch league. Same with Coman and Dybala playing in Serie A. You can't easily predict how players will adjust to a step up in the quality around them.
[–]MrD3athRyan Fucking Giggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分前 (1子コメント)
How do you know they'd be good in this team/system?
[–]manutd_[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 17分前 (0子コメント)
Martial has been better both offensively and defensively than Memphis. The other players I've mentioned have shown similar characteristics in their own clubs.
[–]SoFuLLEricTheKing 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分前 (0子コメント)
Coman isn't a regular starter for Bayern, he's a talented up and coming youngster in a well oiled machine. Much easier context for him. Dybala struggled in his first few months at Juve (as did the whole team). But again he's in a well oiled winning machine, in a league he knows well. I'm disappointed with Memphis' performances but let's give him some more time before declaring him a flop
[–]ttjoelkerMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 27分前 (0子コメント)
I'd consider him a young player who has not yet acclimatized to the PL and to playing against tough opponents. he didn't transfer here from a top notch team, he came here from PSV. The PL is the toughest league in the world. Give him time, he will be great.
[–]Launch_a_poo 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22分前 (0子コメント)
No, I think he'll become a good buy eventually. The potential is there.
[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分前 (1子コメント)
His biggest problems seem to be adjusting to the pace, intensity and physicality of the Prem but that's not something that could have been scouted. He was rated as one of the brightest prospects in Europe for a reason and we've certainly seen him show it in some of his displays.
[–]manutd_[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Hes had problems keeping possession, with decision making and with defensive errors too in addition to the pace. I am surprised our scouting didn't catch all of this.
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