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What conspiracy have you studied the most? (self.conspiracy)

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What conspiracy have you've taken the most time to personal study? How would you then formulate your findings to show and discuss with someone who hasn't looked as in-depth on the topic as you?

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[–]Azh1aziam 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's gotta be the sandy hook conspiracy..9/11 is to painfully obvious, my dad was a New York City homocide detective at the time and he always said it was weird they got rid of the all the twisted steel, I think that's called "tampering with evidence"

[–]captain_teeth33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the crisis actors are a dead giveaway.

[–]WhoIsJohnGrok 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apollo 11 and JFK

[–]ToplessMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know if it has an official name but I've looked in to ancient advanced civilisations a lot. Like in india where there's a lot of references to people in space suits and flying devices, like today's modern planes. There's also quite a lot of radiation about which they (people who researched this) believe there must have been the equivalent to a nuke went off. This is due to finding walls from very old cities fused together, which could only happen if they were exposed to extreme force and heat rapidly. I'm not a believer just yet, but it's a very interesting read.

[–]TheHottestBoy[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any other places? Have you looked into under water cities as well?

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 4ポイント5ポイント  (19子コメント)

i went pretty deep with nuclear 9/11. i would refer them to /r/nuclear911, in particular the stickied post

edit: and the brigade follows me wherever i go lol

[–]RMFN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here comes the slide.

[–]captain_teeth33 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

what's your best evidence for use of nukes?

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

the whole process needs to be explained. dmitri khalezov's video is the best i've found. it's long, but my jaw was on the floor for 4 hours.

[–]captain_teeth33 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

There ought to be one most convincing piece of evidence. A geiger counter reading? Radioactive material? Anything?

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

the rare radiogenic cancers (PDF) among 9/11 first responders and new yorkers is pretty damning. human geiger counters.

the way the towers turned into billowing clouds of microscopic dust makes it obvious, too, once you understand the demolition process.

contents of the buildings (elevator cars, thousands of miles of wire & pipe, huge generators, thousands of bathroom fixtures, etc., etc., etc.) turned to microscopic dust

the earthquakes before collapse

the massive craters left under each building

the molten rock/metal in the craters for 3 months after 9/11

and just the ferocity with which pr shills attack this subject. took me a while, but i understand why they're desperate to suppress this now, and i'll shout this from the rooftops every time i have the opportunity:

nuclear 9/11 proves that israeli and us intelligence has access to thermonuclear devices within the united states and the willingness to use them on civilian populations

[–]captain_teeth33 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

humans are not geiger counters. there are other causes of cancer besides. don't you think that there was enough toxicity without nukes? buildings full of asbestos turned to dust, computer parts, plastics, etc.

so called 'dustification' which isn't even a real word. don't you think it's wiser to look at more mundane known causes of this - like regular demolition explosives - the ones that first responders report hearing and seeing?

is it possible that thermate reaction accounts for the melting metal, hotspots that persisted for months? nukes don't do that.

the melting rock has been utterly debunked to my satisfaction. it's the natural shape of the bedrock.

people aren't suppressing it, they think (and rightly) that the nuke stuff, and judy wood are all disinfo. if you have some ACTUAL evidence of nukes - like geiger counter readings, or nuclear material - I'd be interested to look again. for me, thermate and conventional demo explosives satisfy all features of the explosions.

[–]flyyyyyyyyy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

did i call it or what?

[–]The_Noble_Lie 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Judy Wood's stuff is not "Nuke Stuff".

Have you seen these pictures of "glaciers" underneath the WTC buildings? What are your thoughts?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=glaciers+wtc&t=canonical&iax=1&ia=images

Who the fuck builds a skyscraper atop a "glacier" that size? Oh...NOW they have to fill it up to build the next skyscraper. Destruction of evidence in my honest appraisal.

[–]captain_teeth33 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

that's how bedrock looks under NYC.

http://www.centralparknyc.org/assets/images/2014/things-to-see-and-do/umpire-rock-l.jpg

http://images.slideplayer.com/23/6616107/slides/slide_52.jpg

I would have hoped you'd have checked the facts yourself. This one is the most obvious.

[–]The_Noble_Lie 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I have looked into this. Why did they build the first two world trade centers over those large holes (which are quite different from the bedrock formations one sees in, say Central Park; hill-like raised, roving smooth structures.) Have you ever actually been to Central park?

Yes, I grant you there are similarities, but the glacier sounds like a mighty fine excuse for the holes.

My question remains. Read the articles about the ice glaciers before you dismiss me and claim I haven't "checked the facts" and that "this is obvious". The engineers for the new tower felt it was necessary to fill these holes in before building over it. Wouldn't the engineers pre-1973 come to the same obvious conclusion? And if they didn't, how does one go about building around such a large hole in the ground? (The World Trade Centers had extensive basement and underground structure including subways)

Besides, sometimes the "obvious" answer is used as a ploy, a distraction, no? If you don't think so, why are you here?

Edit: Added another question.

[–]captain_teeth33 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

it looks like the rest of the bedrock to me and everyone else. there's no need for or evidence of nukes to explain the shape of it that I can see.

[–]mexicaaaan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

dude, central park is entirely man made - you've got to be kidding me

[–]tamrix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care if you get down voted. I've watched that video a few times and it's some of the most interesting evidence I've seen.

I've posted it on this sub reddit before and been slammed with down votes but I urge other people reading not to judge the video based on his comment karma.

[–]RowdyRoddyPiper -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wigner effect. Nuclear artillery rounds used.

[–]WhoIsJohnGrok -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't unseen it once you learn about the 150kiloton nukes used.

[–]Lachlannn -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Comparing the events on September 11 to other subterranean nuclear detonations below; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0cjVobjOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca4D0-s8OsI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1f6vbiuUt0

Comparing the events on September 11 to that of a controlled Demo; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2E_m7l2Rww

The above demonstrates the massive amounts of dust generated by the blasts. Before the collapse, detonations are heard 2-3 seconds before collapse which are used to weaken the structure before the final charges.

During 911 these pre collapse charges were detonated over the course of an hour; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

somewhat different, considering the wtc was built on very hard rock (a blend of granite and 'manhattan schist'), not sand or dirt. and it was 'only' 150kT according to Khalazov -- still f'n huge, but not megaton

that demolition video is pretty different from what we saw on 9/11. we didn't have all those blasts going off, up and down the tower. the whole thing would have been lighting up, not just 2 or 3 squibs. i agree that it was a controlled demolition (by Controlled Demolition, Inc.), but i disagree that it could have been done conventionally or using only thermite.

fwiw, there were some conventional explosions in each tower (basements and elevator shafts) to clear the 'chimney path' for the primary thermonuclear device. widely reported.

[–]disposable182 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The central banking system.

[–]TheHottestBoy[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What got you interested into the research?

[–]kjfriend 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've spent the most time in Sandy Hook because alternative news reporters gave plenty more information than you could ever expect. They definately pointed out a lot of things that the main stream media left out. It was very interesting and it really shows an obvious false flag agenda for gun control. There are a lot of other interesting news stories to look at. I would have never seen the details if all of these great independent reporters had not pointed out what was obvious. When something happens, all I have to do is wait a while because I know there are independent investigators that will tell me things that MSNBC or CNN or FOX won't. Most main stream media is false, shut off the TV, it is nothing but propaganda. It's better to weed through all the online information and find the most reliable sources because they are out there. And just because people wear a suit in a TV studio doesn't necessarily make them better. Look for people who can reference what they say because you will spend a lot of time trying to deprogram all the propaganda slaves who can't accept anything out of the pre-programmed poisoned message of the elites, globalists and every power/money hungry snake out there.

[–]RMFN 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you know about st rose of lima?

[–]kjfriend 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the school next to sandy hook? By memory, I remember that there was internet going on there but none at sandy hook and when they looked at google gps maps, sandy hook looked abandoned. why did u have something interesting on them?

[–]tamrix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like the secret space program. The stories are amazing.

[–]adrixshadow -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Quantum Mechanics.

It's one of the biggest scam anyone pulled.

It stopped the progress of science for a century and going.

Theoretical science is inverted and mystified where up is down and left is right.

The biggest thing I have come to realize is the people in all positions will believe anything as long as its an authority even if their mission is to challenge.

[–]daevl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just came out of a quantum theory reading. Its a purely mathematical theory. Math doesnt lie,but maybe there will be a better formulated heory in the future.

[–]RMFN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/thread

[–]potxolo -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

The irony of using a device that depends on quantum mechanics, to post against quantum mechanics...

[–]adrixshadow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because quantum mechanics has a theory on how transistors work does not mean that theory is true, they did not predict anything, all they do is match data.

What we conclusively have is experimental effects of solid state physics and that predate quantum mechanics and was being experimented on since we had electricity.

[–]wanab3 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (17子コメント)

You say that like they aren't all just different tentacles of the same octopus. All conspiracies stem from a few factions of secret societies.

Racism is defiantly the most widely known and accepted conspiracy, yet it's the most ignored and denied.

[–]RMFN 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What race are you?

[–]wanab3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Human obviously... It's not important... Just to appease you, I'm multi ethnic.

[–]wanab3 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really sad that people in this sub pride them selves as being critical thinkers while being racist. As soon as race comes into the equation people loose their minds. Without any real inquiry people just down vote based on assumptions. You all should just understand that every down vote you give some one speaking out against racism is an up vote for TPTB.

People here will believe all kinds of elaborate hoaxes. But the most wide spread, elaborate hoax that effects about 7 billion out of 8 billion people: "Oh no, that's a bullshit hoax." Probably the same ones that hold misogynistic, homophobic or other bigoted views.

It is absolutely logically inconsistent to be a conspiracy theorist and think racism and other bigoted ideological divides aren't conspiracy. How do these people spew all these things about Jewish people, for example, and not see the contradiction at play? It's just baffling.

I don't mean this to degenerate or insult all participants of this sub, just the racist conspiracy theorists. I don't even want to insult them. I just want all foolish racism to stop in an otherwise ideal forum.

People have to understand that there is no way we're going to overthrow TPTB if we maintain their ideological divides. We must conquer the bigotry among our selves before we can hope to conquer them.

[–]ArtificialArtichoke -2ポイント-1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Racism

Uh... what aspect thereof?

[–]wanab3 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

Just about all of them.

[–]ArtificialArtichoke -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

That doesn’t mean anything.

[–]wanab3 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm guessing. You deny racism exists then?

[–]ArtificialArtichoke 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

No, I just have no clue what you’re trying to imply by there being a conspiracy regarding it.

[–]wanab3 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

From the side bar: "Conspiracy - a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful"

You're aware of Americas history with Indigenous North and South Americans, Africans, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.?

Many people are not.

It's a secret if people don't know. If people die and people don't know that's a harmful secret, and in many cases unlawful.

You're aware people attempt to deny history or selectively focus peoples attention away from certain particulars of history?

Many people are not.

[–]ArtificialArtichoke -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

”Conspiracy - a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful"

K.

You’re aware of Americas history with Indigenous North and South Americans, Africans, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.?

More so than you are, yes.

Now why not just explain what you actually mean about racism being a conspiracy.

[–]wanab3 -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

How do we know each other so well already?

Racism is a definition-quality-example of a conspiracy.

I just explained above what I mean when I say that racism is a conspiracy. It's moved beyond theory to fact and practice, but it's still a conspiracy because there is a grand misinformation campaign.

Many people are not aware of "Americas history with Indigenous North and South Americans, Africans, Mexicans, Arabs, etc... [And] people attempt to deny history or selectively focus peoples attention away from certain particulars of history."

Maybe our discussion would be more productive if you highlighted some ways racism isn't a conspiracy.

Up to this point you're following a familiar formula for a "troll", "shill" or "bot" that attempts those things. I hope that's not what you're doing and we can have a reasonable discussion from this point on.

[–]Onyyyyy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think he is a shill. I'm kind of lost too. Are you saying racism does not exist or that it does and is a tool to hold back certain groups?

[–]ArtificialArtichoke -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I just explained above what I mean when I say that racism is a conspiracy.

Yeah, but not very well.

It’s moved beyond theory to fact and practice, but it’s still a conspiracy because there is a grand misinformation campaign.

I’m thinking that reality is pretty much the exact opposite of what you’re claiming, but would like to have a clarification as to what you believe the conspiracy actually is before coming to a final conclusion.

Up to this point you’re following a familiar formula for a "troll", "shill" or "bot" that attempts those things.

If I say, “Get fucked,” will you knock that off? Because asking for clarification isn’t anything like what they do. All they care about is their paid-for party line, repeating their talking points even after being proven wrong.