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[–]slopnessie[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (6子コメント)

One last reminder: witch hunting is strictly forbidden on /r/smashbros. Please keep calls to action out of this sub, and keep in mind there are 2 sides to every story. To read more about what constitutes a witch hunt, look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/wiki/witchhunting

edit: Please use the report button if you see any comment with witch hunting. We can't catch everything.

[–]kkambos 114ポイント115ポイント  (22子コメント)

Mang0's Fun-Day stream is about to be reaaaally awkward

[–]Mrjim40 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

his name isnt in the stream title anymore lmao

[–]kkambos 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I heard him talkng in the background, maybe he was asked to leave?

[–]itotopping 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt they would ask him to leave. not really like that kind of people

[–]brobroma 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't be surprised if he left to deal with it in terms of addressing /responding to this post

[–]kkambos 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea this seems like the more likely reason. This is gonna be a shitshow

[–]gibisee4 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's on submode, I imagine the chat was pretty trolly-y before that.

[–]MegaSuperUltraThingy 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

Just switched onto this now, has he or any of the boys mentioned it yet?

[–]TwinkieBoss 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

they won't and they're being strict about talking about it in chat, just keep it here

[–]MegaSuperUltraThingy 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Kinda disappointing but understandable at the same time. I think mango said yesterday that he doesn't like getting involved in controversies like this.

[–]CodeNameJake 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Best course of action for sure.

[–]SirFancyWolf 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Kinda disappointing

Yeah sorry when drama blows up we prefer to keep it out of the chat/stream because its not our business, and we dont need mango's chat to turn into a cesspool of twitch hate towards MacD. Myself and other mods try to keep mango's chat as chill as possible even during this kinda nonsense.

[–]MegaSuperUltraThingy 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did you not read the immediate next part of my comment? 'but understandable' are literally the next two words.

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But you also said that's it's disappointing implying you wanted there to be a bunch of drama in the chat.

[–]apizza [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Chill out dude, he was simply addressing it

[–]ewd444 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's understandable and not disappointing. Is hearing mango say "That's messed up" really worth that much to you?

[–]The best silly-slider in townaidantheman18 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh lord. Twitch chat is gonna have a field day...

Sucks that this happened.

[–]yeah im the music guythenabi 125ポイント126ポイント  (37子コメント)

I'm not surprised and wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be true, considering some of the ways he has acted on Smashed at the Foundry.

That having been said, I am a full supporter of innocent until proven guilty, and I hope this doesn't tarnish his name or reputation until we know for a fact he is guilty.

[–]MonkehPants 58ポイント59ポイント  (21子コメント)

Yeah, also the way MacD has acted in the past toward Leffen shows that he has a problem with respecting other peoples boundaries (to put it mildly).

[–]Baloobadooby 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah leffen seemed pretty annoyed at macd around evo last year, and it all seemed to just blow over with nothing happening. Hopefully something comes of this instead.

[–]Either way...FrankTheFlank 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leffen more or less insinuated on his stream at one point that the reason he doesn't regularly team with MacD as much as he used to in early 2015 is because he was constantly feeling uncomfortable.

[–]master301 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

considering they also team less together too

[–]kvndakin 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

?? source

[–]kiddydong 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure on a direct source but I remember Leffen implying it on Twitter

[–]itotopping [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

he just tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/715006768846413824

For the record, @SPY_MacD did go a bit overboard with the jokes towards me, but once I let him now he stopped and Ive had no problems since.

[–]MonkehPants 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't find the source right now, but when they were teaming together at events MacD would apparently "tease" Leffen about their "relationship". He also went on twitter and got people to write fanfiction of them, and shared a photoshopped image of him and Leffen holding hands. All this while Leffen was privately asking him to stop, and that it made him uncomfortable. At the time, I just took it as MacD taking a joke too far, but now I don't know...

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

If he has a history of this, or other people come forward, he needs to get help, or something. Behavior like that is unacceptable.

[–]kkambos 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not even about "getting help". These are criminal offences. A police report is being filed. There will be serious consequences if these allegations are proven true

[–]Necoli_ 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well said. Even if there is hard evidence to back it up, I just don't want to jump on a bandwagon until I really know what's going on.

[–]Polar-Bair 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

If there's proof, it's not just about petty drama or stuff like that anymore. It's about protecting other members of our community.

[–]Necoli_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess I didn't word it very well, I agree with innocent until proven guilty, and I agree this should be known to protect our community. But I've had experience of just hopping on a belief bandwagon, and I'm going to remain neutral on the subject until I know 100%.

[–]LogicAndMorality -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

FYI "Innocent until proven guilty" refers to the criminal court system's obligation to treat the defendant as if they were innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Courts dealing with private cases like lawsuits do not have this obligation.

A lot of people think "innocent until proven guilty" means in social situations people are literally innocent of all wrongdoing until there is hard evidence to prove they are guilty. This is not the case.

[–]Can we not?Respect38 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people, myself included, believe that this is a good policy to adhere to even if it isn't legally mandated for us to do so; otherwise allegations, and not facts, begin to define a person's reputation. That's not OK.

[–]I_no_afraid_of_stuff [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So if I accuse you of raping me, and that becomes a nationally recognized court case. It would be fine for you to be treated as guilty by the public, even if it turns out that you were innocent?

It is true that the public is under no obligations for innocent until proven guilty, however it is good practice in an ethical sense.

[–]BNSable [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why would you not use the cornerstone of the justice system as a basis for life. I wouldn't fuck over a friend unless it was proven beyond reasonable doubt that they had done shit.

[–]notbob- 41ポイント42ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why are these skype logs so incomplete and out of order? Part of this post is making allegations against Sky, but the Skype logs are an important part of those allegations and they're really incomplete and confusing.

[–]P5NScyte [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That was really what was bugging me about the evidence given. Like sure, some of the chat convos may be REALLY personal, but it still kinda makes it a bit sketchy when it seems that stuff was cherrypicked from their conversations. I'm not trying to say the evidence given is completely unreliable, just it would be nice if we could see this conversation as a WHOLE, so we could maybe get some more context to the situation.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow, this is heavy. I can't see a public figure, and such a nice guy doing this, but that's so much proof. Proves what's wrong with this world sometimes. Stay strong /u/ThatKidSparky <3. I hope you're ok!

Edit: I don't know how this is allowed by Sky. Sky always talks about being gay (even in commentary), and how he tries to stand up for gay rights, but he won't help a gay person, WHO'S HIS FRIEND NONTHELESS, get away from a bad situation, and stand up for him. This is honestly bullshit, and I can't stand to see someone abused, and receive no help from his friend.

Props to D1 for being a good guy. D1 just seems like an all around good guys, and people say he acts that way too.

[–]Bomber- 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mad respect towards D1 for being alert and offering to help him out.

[–]Yearbookthrowaway1 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Legit not even surprised. Outside of all the great things D1 does for the community, he's also just a flat out great human being. One of the most genuinely good hearted people I've ever had the pleasure of interacting with.

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment 88ポイント89ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sparky, I am so, so sorry that this happened to you. I believe you and I applaud your bravery in coming forward with this. None of what happened to you is OK, and they're is NO WAY it is acceptable to tell you to "accept" that behaviour when it makes you uncomfortable.

I hope that you are able to find peace and continue on as strong as you are now. Sexual harassment and assault is never, EVER okay, no matter who it happens to, no matter who does it.

[–]THE ANSWER LIES IN THE HEART OF BATTLE.AreJay25 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one should have to experience this. Ever.

Props to Sparky for stepping forward.

[–]tim11422 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

What is the fucking point of posting this on reddit? Just leave it to the fucking police instead of posting shit especially since reddit has a guilty until proven innocent mind frame.

[–]wiibiiz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because other smashers deserve to know so that they can decide whether or not to allow MacD to attend events they TO or decline to attend tournaments that MacD will be attending

[–]Either way...FrankTheFlank 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just wow, this is crazy. He's at Mango's for funday right now and everyone is calling him out.

[–]jataba115 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got switched to sub mode it looks like

Edit: which is absolutely the right thing to do by the way

[–]itotopping 65ポイント66ポイント  (16子コメント)

Damn it sucks for everyone involved but it feels weird that this is posted here. I feel like it concerns the people involved more than it concerns us

[–]MonkehPants 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, it's tough. On the one hand, yeah this is some heavy, personal shit. On the other, it's probably important to the victim(s?) to have some proof out there, so people don't just call them liars. Also, to warn people about what's been going on.

And personally, even if it involves people I like/respect, if something like this has happened, I appreciate knowing about it. I'd rather know about horrible shit than be completely unaware of it, and thus supporting people who act like this.

[–]d4b3ss 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

I feel similarly. I feel this is a very very personal issue between the parties involved. That being said putting it here, or anywhere, ensures that people are aware that the behavior is happening and that it isn't okay.

[–]itotopping 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just remember the shitshow that was the alex strife posts around apex last year and I really don't like seeing this kind of stuff on this sub

[–]queisuseless - 5026-4431-3980eyehateq 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate seeing this stuff, but only because I hate that it's happening... It's important for this to be stopped, and, in Alex's case, it's important to remove toxins from the community. If this is true, I think that we shouldn't allow MacD and Sky to remain parts of the scene.

[–]bombsatomically 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is the best way to get ahead of rumors flying around and shit.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's awkward, but you need to get the word out. This place, however crazy, can be sympathetic and get the word out.

[–]Necoli_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, on one hand I get the implications of letting the community know, but I also feel this is more of a legal problem that should be kept between them and the law. Once again, it sucks that it is happening this way, and it sucks that this is happening at all. I really feel like history is repeating itself with all of the drama in the community right now; I feel like I'm back in the beginning of 2015 with all of the controversy surrounding Apex.

[–]wiibiiz 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, tbh tournament organizers have an interest in knowing about this so they can make an informed decision about letting MacD enter their events. And if they won't make the call then we as players (some of us underaged) have an interest in knowing this so that we can make our own informed decision.

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

MacD is also a TO himself and runs a gigantic (monthly?) tournament in SoCal called Mayhem.

[–]wiibiiz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Unless this gets cleared up before the next Mayhem, that's not gonna happen (at least with him in the driver's seat).

[–]jataba115 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand though, this could help someone who is scared to speak out or feels suppressed to come forward.

[–]TehLittleOne [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The issue is, clearly the parties involved were not interested in doing anything about it. Obviously those who have come forward are interested in doing things, but a majority of the people in Sky's house, including Sky himself, don't seem to care. It sort of forces a public post like this to get traction, and Reddit is as good a place as any.

[–]jataba115 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry Sparky. I'm sorry you felt pressured into not speaking up about this. For anyone else, don't be afraid to call someone out. If you feel legitimately endangered or scared you have the right to go to the police if you so feel. Don't let anybody take advantage of you and your feelings. Don't be embarrassed for other people's shitty actions. Hell I don't know anybody on here but if anyone needs to just talk to a stranger PM me. I don't want people in a community I love to feel scared or hurt.

If you feel you're being targeted or people are trying to keep you from speaking out on this subreddit then I'm sure the mods can help you out, they are great guys and will help.

[–]specmkwiiTP 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

D1 is such a nice guy. god bless his heart

[–]letsallpoo 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

:( MacD is one of my favorite players, so I really hope this isn't true. But if it is, then I hope justice prevails

[–]gibisee4 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, I was campaigning hard for him to get on the summit. Really disappointing TBH.

[–]quillsandfrills 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Sparky is incredibly brave to speak out like this, and I'm glad the community is listening.

[–]shadow2684 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow... I don't want to comment on this because I honestly don't know any of these guys personally but if all of this is true (need to always have some skepticism on everything) then what a horrible situation. Especially on a place as Sky's house where smashers should feel tight knit like a family but then getting harassed like that is insane to me. Will try to stay the most objective as I can but it's hard when it's stuff like this...

[–]NNID: hounvs. G&W in Sm4shhounvs [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

More than just harassed, assaulted

[–]shadow2684 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, bad wording on my part. This shit is just hard to comprehend and seeing out in the open like this so I didn't focus too much on the wording. Man I honestly hope that everything goes right regardless if this is false or true..

[–]Crump_Dump 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Don't grab your pitchforks."

>Posts story to one of the biggest Smash sources for news

I really, really don't understand this logic. I'm not defending McCain, I'm just perplexed at this sort of thing. Whether you want it to happen or not, pitchforks will be raised now.

[–]FreeShampoo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, for real. Obviously this is exactly what he wants, why else would he make a reddit post?

[–]MonkehPants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly, it's because this would be all over reddit anyway, potentially with multiple threads. At least this way the mods have advance warning, and can keep things contained. Plus having the "NO WITCH HUNTING" front and center on the post, even though it won't stop your average 14 year old, might get some people to think before they share things around.

[–]I don't want to go to the doctor.BloodFartTheQueefer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Indeed. Allegations themselves ruin people's lives. Regularly.

[–]Yearbookthrowaway1 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh fuckin boy here we go

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter 23ポイント24ポイント  (9子コメント)

Not at all surprised that Sky was defending MacD's behavior. He's defended straight smashers as well when they were called out for harassing women.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Proof/Reference?

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was something I saw on facebook sometime last year. Some smasher was called out with screenshots and apparently he was living with Sky at the time and Sky was like "haha he's just thirsty this isn't that big a deal." I can't remember the smasher's tag but it was I think 4 letters long and had a bunch of x's in it. Xazz or something.

[–]FC: 4613-7663-2777 II NNID : DikuruElectric91 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Defending an opinion and neglecting a situation are different things.. You can defend an opinion, sure; covering stuff like that is straight up dangerous.

[–]Bombuhclaat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't really like sky...Especially after the genesis(?) commentating. Fuck that pissed me off

[–]I will overtake the nervesSamiltonJ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He would absolutely be the one to do it. Way too apathetic about this kind of thing. I think he would be damn good friends with Mr. Freud.

[–]Jumpman2014C 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS IS NOT THE WAY to treat people MacD. Let justice be done or the heavens fall.

[–]fishmcmuffins 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

if a police report has been filed, what is the point of posting it here

maybe when the situation works itself out, but people really believe macd isnt going to get witchhunted to shit for this?

[–]gsmVoiD 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I can tell, the first Skype message seems to be taken out of context. Sky says "None of us wanted to stop McCain because ..." immediately after talking about "all being trolled into who we were today." I think what Sky meant is that they didn't want to tell MacD to stop trolling because it's a very common thing at the house. I don't know about anything else in this situation from what I've read, but that's all I can really tell.

[–]ASHGooSavior 29ポイント30ポイント  (24子コメント)

First off didn't even know macD was gay. Second, I just don't get how people just don't see how this shit is a problem. Sky was being so apathetic to the victim. Stuff like this sickens me. Third, sparky is so brave to speak out and not hide in fear of social repercussions.

[–]lol_gag 81ポイント82ポイント  (23子コメント)

damn how'd you not know he was gay

[–]nightwing2024 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I only know when people are gay if they or another person tell me.

It matters so little to me that I don't keep track. I'm not interested in men romantically or sexually, so it just doesn't matter, and I only need to know for women if I want to pursue one.

It's not that hard to believe someone else might not pay attention to sexuality as well.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 5ポイント6ポイント  (18子コメント)

Because maybe he doesn't actively follow the community, or just didn't come across it?

[–]lol_gag 8ポイント9ポイント  (17子コメント)

idk man it seems real obvious when you see him on cam at tournaments but could just be me.

[–]Necoli_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly don't blame him, because one time I was completely convinced someone was gay purely based on behavior, and not actual evidence. Turns out I was completely wrong.

[–]Sometimesialways 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've seen guys and gals that dress similar and are very straight. Looks can be decieving, but I do share your sentiment

[–]NNID: WhataTreeBarkWhataTreeBark2 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

fuck

[–]Zexes 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is one of those times that upon reading the title I earnestly wished it was a shitpost.

[–]Mallack 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Jeez I just followed a retweet here and good god the Smash community is uh... passionate? You guys jump down peoples throats like its your job. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Let the police handle this if it's sexual assault, don't think your comment on some forum is going to change their investigation

[–]ididyourmum69 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

that's reddit. jump the gun on any sexual assault/rape just because allegations were made even though they may be found untrue

[–]kiddydong 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Along with "let's not witch hunt" how about we also agree "let's not invade random chats to force streamers to talk about it?"

[–]Haedoxic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I hope you are okay, Sparky. It takes a lot of courage to step forward like this.

[–]I-am-Beans 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, this is something. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but this sounds pretty damning for both MacD and Sky. If all of this really did transpire, then Sparky will need the community's support now more than ever.

[–]Rakensen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm gonna be honest, this sounds really sketch lol.

"Grizzly Time finished his cigarette first and left.. for whatever reason." Why would your friend leave after you just told him you'd afraid you'd be RAPED by this person that just came outside next to both of you? Like what?

There's no hard evidence, and the way MacD is being described is making it seem like he's someone who commonly stars in BDSM porn. I've seen a lot of rape accusations, and this one is by far the most unbelievable I've ever seen.

Somehow though (I forgot how it happened, my mind always blanks out during really convenient moments, for whatever reason) people are taking this seriously.

[–]RedShirtTheGod 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

My respect for MacD has definitely gone down after reading this.

[–]Canadianfox17 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

this honestly shouldn't be on reddit because this effects no one expect those close to the victim and MacD, and they already know. You have nothing to gain and only hurts MacD's reputation

[–]Br-er 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

It exposes a potential sexual predator and serves as an example for both future victims and abusers: victims know they're in a community where they will be listened to and supporters, abusers know we're not gonna let this shit fly

[–]Canadianfox17 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes but now because this is on reddit MacD is going to be shit on endlessly, should he be punished? Most definitely but the fact that we are exposing him to tens of thousands of people only brings up more hate and controversy, and I'm tired of controversy

[–]Br-er [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

We all are, believe me, but not only does there need to be a precedent for the Smash community having no tolerance for the shit happening here, people also need to know MacD is potentially dangerous, and that they should be wary about and speak out if he's making them feel uncomfortable. If we accept the existence of sexual predators within Smash, we've failed as an e-sport, we've failed as a community, and we've failed as people.

[–]PotatoLunar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The big point here is potential though. Once everything is sorted out and it is confirmed one way or the other, I'd be fine with a post, but as of right now, it's just a "he-said she-said" situation. Labeling someone as "potentially dangerous" can greatly harm their reputation, and as such I don't think it should be happening until the case is sorted out.

[–]JustforU [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The keyword here is potential. What if all of this is untrue? Then macd and Sky's reputation are destroyed for no reason. We should have let the legal system come to a conclusion before we post things like this.

[–]FreeShampoo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Don't glorify this. It's the demonization of a public figure with questionable "evidence". Reddit is not the place to air your dirty laundry.

[–]kiddydong 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, doesn't his reputation deserve that if he sexually assaults someone?

[–]Canadianfox17 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you were to sexually assualt someone you would not be shat on every day of your life from tens of thousands of people, but I guess that is the cost of being famous.

[–]Have a rotten day!ManscorpIron_Tarkus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you'd rather someone who does these kinds of things has a good, untarnished reputation?

[–]gregidot 40ポイント41ポイント  (100子コメント)

EDIT: I spoke too soon. I was emotional and i acted quickly.

I'm going to be looking into charges for defamation of character - as there are completely untrue allegations here and i'm not going to let my name be slandered.

I've hired a laywer - I'm going over the evidence and witness I have to build my case and I will handle this legally.

I would never do what I'm being accused of. Being a rape victim myself this makes me sick to read Sparky take our private conversations out of context.

I'll update on this soon.

[–]jrules 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

stuff he's done to your body - whatever that means - hardly seems relevant to the situation.

edit:

good call on not jumping the gun on this one sky.

[–]thegoatsareback 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, he's trying to say Sparky is also guilty of unwarranted sexual advances, but that's nowhere near the same as getting unwarranted sexual advances while actively trying to push them off.

[–]letsallpoo 32ポイント33ポイント  (17子コメント)

sky i think you're a cool dude but i think it's weird to accuse someone of just being interested in drama and views and then say you're going to make "a video exposing everything" lol

edit: i posted this reply before he clarified that the video would be unlisted and not on his channel, chill y'all

edit: he's changed his post a lot now. sky, i'm sorry if i sounded too accusatory and i hope you're okay :(

[–]quillsandfrills 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

A video? For real? If you want to counter it then cite specific supportable evidence. Saying it emphatically on YouTube won't be a legitimate counterpoint.

[–]Koalchemy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm sure the video portion is more specifically aimed towards the community.

[–]burningbagel 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

"This person was only interested in drama and views and not the truth"

"Please wait patiently as I will be making a video exposing everything"

Ok regardless of what the actual truth is are you fucking kidding me how can you not have any semblance of self-awareness with this shit

[–]ExcadriII 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

So, should he let MacD's name be tarnished and sit there? He isn't making the video for drama, he's making it to shed light on the situation from a 3rd persons perspective.

[–]Polar-Bair 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only after people called him out did he edit his comment to say it was Unlisted. And the sad fact is that a lot of Internet personalities put drama above everything. I almost can't blame him - it's business. But Sky really should have thought about what he was saying first.

[–]Squeggonic 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would you rather have a one-sided view of a situation or a more rounded one? Sky's making a video to clear the air of drama and other bullshit. He's always made videos to try and show his point of view. That's what he's doing now.

[–]gregidot 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not posting a video to my channel - I'm making an unlisted video that nobody is gonna see and it's gonna be taken down. It's on a channel i don' tuse. what's the problem with that?

[–]burningbagel 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

There isn't a problem, except that wasn't made clear until you just edited your post. I think you could forgive me for assuming that when a youtube personality says they're going to make a video exposing something, that it's going to be a regular video on their main channel.

[–]nightwing2024 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

So if no one is going to see it and you're not going to keep it up, how exactly is making it going to be beneficial to the situation?

Not to mention of someone does see it, they automatically know it's you because you just told everyone it was going to be you.

[–]treeofhope 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is a drama queen - 'please wait patiently while i make a video exposing everything'

Nothing beneficial will happen by releasing a video he should contact his lawyer.................. but attention

[–]NNID: hounvs. G&W in Sm4shhounvs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Putting it on another channel is so he isn't gonna make a ton of money off of the drama. Not that I agree with anything, just clarifying his reasoning

[–]locaux 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

this may not be a good idea right now

[–]nightwing2024 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Edit: Sky edited his post. My comment originally replied to his comments slighting Capps, but they're gone now.

Great idea trying to undermine and discredit the reporter. I'm sure that will go over super well...

Protip: If it turns out the allegations are false or the facts have been otherwise misrepresented, then the reporter will automatically lose credibility. You don't have to do it.

Look, I'm not passing judgement on the matter itself until all the facts are out, but what you should be doing is raising yourself and MacD above the charges, not bring everyone else down to you.

[–]jataba115 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's Capps. If he agrees to do it then I automatically believe it has weight to it

[–]I have a Fox flair because in the year 20XX, everyone plays FoxSaturn_ATX 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is an embarrassing response.

[–]thegoatsareback 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smashcapps specifically said that there are two sides to the story and they are covering this story from the perspective that they were given, so what the hell are you talking about "only drama and views" for. It also doesn't help that you decided to let whatever this is get this far before bringing it up at all, that goes for everyone involved with this.

[–]jataba115 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like making a video on it (profiting off the situation) is a bad way to handle this. You accuse Capps of looking more for drama and views but now you'll make a video showcasing your side (just as one sided and only adding to drama by making a video thousands of people will see) is just gross. Write out your feelings. Present the evidence without cheeky editing. Show your side, but don't you fucking attempt to make a quick buck off of potentially yours or Sparky's assault. That's Keemstar level shit, which I know you're not above, but have some damn respect.

And you can't be innocent in this. If any of these cases are true and you trying to shut Sparky up is true you deserve to get blasted. You housed this, you seemingly let it happen.

So Sky, on your idea of "exposing" this situation, please, do it with actual respect to the situation and anyone involved. I like quite a few of your videos, but I don't know of anyone who has ever enjoyed the guy who stirs the pot on something so serious.

I know you won't read this, but fuck man. If you feel so strongly then come back with a level fielded attack. You have thousands of thousands of fans that would destroy Sparky at your request, even if it was all true. This is a Reddit post. Not a video of a person a lot of people respect and admire that will be seen by so many and could potentially put others in a situation they feel uncomfortable to come out.

Edit: alright

[–]7vejzd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's so disgusting to see how fast people will turn on you with only hearing one side of the story. I feel so bad.

It's also sad to see people jumping on this for attention. Probably should've just been handled privately.

Anyways, hope you're doing well. Love ya. <3

[–]bombsatomically 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should 100% not be in this thread nor should you be making any comments at this time for your own sake.

[–]Solous [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly, as much information as possible needs to come out about the situation, since it's been shot out and into the public sphere like this. Otherwise, there's gonna be so much speculation that any information or opinions that surface later will be diluted by preconceived bias and such. Trying to keep impartial about this until everything gets put out there.

[–]chikabananas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Woah, calm down before you posts online. Internet fucking 101.

[–]themoosetaco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope everything works out for the better. I've been following your stuff since the very beginning and honestly you are one of my inspirations as both an entertainer and as a person.

I don't think you'd do anything like this, but I don't want to make a judgement either way until I see both sides. I feel like you could have done more, but ya know, in the past stuff.

I dunno Im just rambling at this point :\

[–]TheRealMrWillis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey man I'm just here for the video games okay

[–]DJToast3 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I'm not surprised with how Sky behaved during all of this. But truthfully, I am sorry this has happened to you Sparky, nobody should have to go through anything like this.

Best of luck bruh.

[–]gibisee4 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hasn't MacD been hanging out with KK lately? I don't know if it's relevant but KK was previously physically abused by Ryan Ford.

[–]MonkehPants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly man, that's not really relevant. Also KK and Ryan Ford seem to have made up recently, so it's probably more respectful to them and their private affairs to not mention it anymore.

[–]Bill_Nye_Nasty_Spy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ how much dirty laundry do we have to sift through, why does it ALWAYS go public like this

On fucking reddit of all places

[–]PeterParker_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

After all that shit from leffen saying how uncomfortable he was after all the shit macD did to him or tried to do, I am not surprised at all

[–]drake8599 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is this really the place for claims like this?

[–]Westballz is hotActilide [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel like this post should have waited until after the police deals with this.

[–]Serbian FilmElPanandero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sigh, this is the issue with sexual crimes, it's treated as a black and white, all-or-nothing issue, and one side is instantly vilified. Jumping down Sky's throat and roasting MacD without hearing anything from their side isn't cool. If it turns out to be true, then throw internet fists, but until then, offer support for Sparky because regardless of the turth, he's obviously hurting and being supporting is a lot more productive than trying to get revenge on his behalf

[–]Gold_Jacobson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No witch hunting

Then goes on to Post this speculative thread about a person's crime.

Seriously, did this need to be posted here?

[–]FrogKonan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"hey. instead of seeking local authorities help i'll just post the situation on reddit"

[–]Green6131 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean, I agree that this has little to no place being posted here, but it literally says in the post "A police report is being filed."

[–]tokyoutea [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"I am here simply to present this evidence to the community."

You still incriminate Sky in the second line of the test, you're not being objective at all. This is a legal matter, how can you act as a judge?

[–]Br-er [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From an objective point of view, they're not incriminating Sky. They're sharing the evidence and testimonials, as well as making the allegations public. People have already talked about why doing this in a community like Smash (with so many people vulnerable to behavior like the one supposedly displayed by MacD) is important. If Sky and MacD are innocent, then justice should run it's course: the fact that that's not how mob mentality works is in no way fault of the writer.

[–]Mandoge 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow.. Dude is disgusting.

[–]uirishbastard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is this even here? It has nothing to do with smashbros, it´s a private matter. Mods remove this shit

[–]Jig0lo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always knew Sky was a fuck boy, along with many others in Smash. But no, anytime somebody posts a nice tweet, reddit thread, personal youtube video etc. people on this site always believe them. Can't you guys see people want their public perception to be liked which is why they take to social media to act all happy go lucky.

[–]loopdydoopdy 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why the fuck do people treat this sub reddit as their own personal gossip magazine. I don't give a fuck what happens in the personal lives of pro players. This isn't fucking TMZ people, don't fucking post this shit here it has nothing to do with the game.

[–]MonkehPants 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has to do with the community, and it's contained in this one post. Just hit the hide button.

[–]jataba115 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is a community hub for the video game we play. This involves the community. If you don't want to partake in it then don't click the thread, it will be contained to here. Your fault if you get upset about this.

[–]frogEsifufroge [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It has to do with the safety of the smash community as well as several top players/figureheads. This isn't TMZ made up stuff, Capps is just trying to report on serious allegations toward MacD.

[–]adustbininshaftsbury 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I guess he's not getting married to leffen for that green card...

[–]doosa1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What if....this is all a plan to get sky out of his oath to avoid drama for 3 months

[–]Huzuruth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Jesus fuck. Hell of a way to find out about this subreddit for me.

[–]EphemeralRain [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm torn - on one hand, I think this shouldn't be public due to dangerous reactions from the community and the fact that it's none of our business, but on the other hand I feel we have a right to know and it's important to review how we as a community handle situations like this.

I for one am extremely disappointed in Sky's reaction to the scenario. It's an incredibly damaging attitude and I've lost much respect for the guy. We'll see what plays out. Remember guys, play it calm.

[–]PlayOnSunday [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a member of the smash community, I feel like it's up to the people involved and the police to sort this out, witchhunting only hurts both sides. HOWEVER, it's times like these our community needs to step up and be sure to always be the accepting, safe place we're known to be, especially if this ends up being true. It'd be a shame to lose great people and players because they don't feel safe.

Without assuming anything, this is just an awful situation - if this is true, I'm horrified. I was physically sickened reading that this happened, and was committed by someone who I looked up to, to an extent. If this didn't happen, lying about is almost worse. However, I'll leave the decision to the police, and wish the best of you Sparky - you're brave to come out with this, and I'm glad that you did.

Just be good human beings to each other, everyone.

[–]ItsNORTH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sparky WTF did macD rape you or not dont lie bro

[–]Flowtaro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

jesus, fuck that guy. people don't just make up shit like this.

[–]Duckman_Drake909 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't get it. Any post like this, on any sub. "Please don't raise pitch forks" or "No witch hunting even though I'm telling you all the details to this situation." If the police are involved, why the fuck does reddit have to know? If you're trying to ruin MacD's name, well if he's found guilty in court that will accomplish that. Otherwise you are intentionally starting a huge hate train because let's be honest, what else would reddit do with information like this

[–]Wariosmustache [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Remember, witch hunting is not allowed on Reddit. For more information on what is and isn’t witch hunting please read here.

I understand that and all, but...just, I don't even know. MacD having a history of sexual assaulting people? Sky Williams deliberately covering up molestation of a minor by one of his housemates?

These are hugely serious, sickening things. Trying to convey anything about how I feel about this...it's incredibly difficult without toeing that line, and I don't think I can even link to the appropriate Tim Minchin song either.

I think I'll stick out of this thread. There's a police report being filed after all, the proper authorities will do their due diligence.