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[–]slopnessie[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (0子コメント)

One last reminder: witch hunting is strictly forbidden on /r/smashbros. Please keep calls to action out of this sub, and keep in mind there are 2 sides to every story. To read more about what constitutes a witch hunt, look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/wiki/witchhunting

[–]yeah im the music guythenabi 40ポイント41ポイント  (12子コメント)

I'm not surprised and wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be true, considering some of the ways he has acted on Smashed at the Foundry.

That having been said, I am a full supporter of innocent until proven guilty, and I hope this doesn't tarnish his name or reputation until we know for a fact he is guilty.

[–]MonkehPants [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Yeah, also the way MacD has acted in the past toward Leffen shows that he has a problem with respecting other peoples boundaries (to put it mildly).

[–]Baloobadooby [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah leffen seemed pretty annoyed at macd around evo last year, and it all seemed to just blow over with nothing happening. Hopefully something comes of this instead.

[–]kvndakin [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

?? source

[–]kiddydong [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure on a direct source but I remember Leffen implying it on Twitter

[–]MonkehPants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can't find the source right now, but when they were teaming together at events MacD would apparently "tease" Leffen about their "relationship". He also went on twitter and got people to write fanfiction of them, and shared a photoshopped image of him and Leffen holding hands. All this while Leffen was privately asking him to stop, and that it made him uncomfortable. At the time, I just took it as MacD taking a joke too far, but now I don't know...

[–]Necoli_ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

[–]MonkehPants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was more talking about how at one of the Foundries Leffen and MacD were on the mic, and Leffen was talking about how MacD wouldn't stop making reference to them being in a relationship (or something along those lines, it's been a while), and how he had asked him privately to stop. This was after MacD had read MacLeffen fanfiction on stream and shared a photoshopped picture of them holding hands. Seems like if Leffen was asking MacD to stop because he was uncomfortable with those jokes, he should have been a better friend and just stopped.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If he has a history of this, or other people come forward, he needs to get help, or something. Behavior like that is unacceptable.

[–]kkambos [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not even about "getting help". These are criminal offences. A police report is being filed. There will be serious consequences if these allegations are proven true

[–]Necoli_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even if these accusations are true, I feel like that was just friendly joking, and if anyone can take a joke like that, it's definitely Leffen. I highly doubt that offended him.

[–]Necoli_ 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well said. Even if there is hard evidence to back it up, I just don't want to jump on a bandwagon until I really know what's going on.

[–]IAmAN00bie [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Leffen's comments about him not respecting his boundaries now sounds a lot more serious...

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Why did we ignore that in the first place? Was there not a lot of proof?

[–]IAmAN00bie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not that they were ignored, people just thought it was him being drunkenly playful and people were memeing it up on the MacD+Leffen thing at the time.

[–]NNID:pidgezero_one||3DS:3110-7180-7058||Brawl/PM:5202-9106-3435MoonbasesYourComment 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sparky, I am so, so sorry that this happened to you. I believe you and I applaud your bravery in coming forward with this. None of what happened to you is OK, and they're is NO WAY it is acceptable to tell you to "accept" that behaviour when it makes you uncomfortable.

I hope that you are able to find peace and continue on as strong as you are now. Sexual harassment and assault is never, EVER okay, no matter who it happens to, no matter who does it.

[–]THE ANSWER LIES IN THE HEART OF BATTLE.AreJay25 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one should have to experience this. Ever.

Props to Sparky for stepping forward.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, this is heavy. I can't see a public figure, and such a nice guy doing this, but that's so much proof. Proves what's wrong with this world sometimes. Stay strong /u/ThatKidSparky <3. I hope you're ok!

Edit: I don't know how this is allowed by Sky. Sky always talks about being gay (even in commentary), and how he tries to stand up for gay rights, but he won't help a gay person, WHO'S HIS FRIEND NONTHELESS, get away from a bad situation, and stand up for him. This is honestly bullshit, and I can't stand to see someone abused, and receive no help from his friend.

Props to D1 for being a good guy. D1 just seems like an all around good guys, and people say he acts that way too.

[–]quillsandfrills 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Sparky is incredibly brave to speak out like this, and I'm glad the community is listening.

[–]NNID: WhataTreeBarkWhataTreeBark2 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

fuck

[–]The best silly-slider in townaidantheman18 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh lord. Twitch chat is gonna have a field day...

Sucks that this happened.

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Not at all surprised that Sky was defending MacD's behavior. He's defended straight smashers as well when they were called out for harassing women.

[–]FC: 4613-7663-2777 II NNID : DikuruElectric91 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Defending an opinion and neglecting a situation are different things.. You can defend an opinion, sure; covering stuff like that is straight up dangerous.

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Proof/Reference?

[–]astrnght_mike_dexter [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It was something I saw on facebook sometime last year. Some smasher was called out with screenshots and apparently he was living with Sky at the time and Sky was like "haha he's just thirsty this isn't that big a deal." I can't remember the smasher's tag but it was I think 4 letters long and had a bunch of x's in it. Xazz or something.

[–]ASHGooSavior 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

First off didn't even know macD was gay. Second, I just don't get how people just don't see how this shit is a problem. Sky was being so apathetic to the victim. Stuff like this sickens me. Third, sparky is so brave to speak out and not hide in fear of social repercussions.

[–]lol_gag 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

damn how'd you not know he was gay

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Because maybe he doesn't actively follow the community, or just didn't come across it?

[–]lol_gag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

idk man it seems real obvious when you see him on cam at tournaments but could just be me.

[–]itotopping 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

Damn it sucks for everyone involved but it feels weird that this is posted here. I feel like it concerns the people involved more than it concerns us

[–]MonkehPants 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it's tough. On the one hand, yeah this is some heavy, personal shit. On the other, it's probably important to the victim(s?) to have some proof out there, so people don't just call them liars. Also, to warn people about what's been going on.

And personally, even if it involves people I like/respect, if something like this has happened, I appreciate knowing about it. I'd rather know about horrible shit than be completely unaware of it, and thus supporting people who act like this.

[–]d4b3ss [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I feel similarly. I feel this is a very very personal issue between the parties involved. That being said putting it here, or anywhere, ensures that people are aware that the behavior is happening and that it isn't okay.

[–]itotopping [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I just remember the shitshow that was the alex strife posts around apex last year and I really don't like seeing this kind of stuff on this sub

[–]Dank MemesEpicallytossed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's awkward, but you need to get the word out. This place, however crazy, can be sympathetic and get the word out.

[–]Necoli_ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, on one hand I get the implications of letting the community know, but I also feel this is more of a legal problem that should be kept between them and the law. Once again, it sucks that it is happening this way, and it sucks that this is happening at all. I really feel like history is repeating itself with all of the drama in the community right now; I feel like I'm back in the beginning of 2015 with all of the controversy surrounding Apex.

[–]wiibiiz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, tbh tournament organizers have an interest in knowing about this so they can make an informed decision about letting MacD enter their events, and if they won't make the call then we as players (some of underaged) have an interest in knowing this so that we can make our own informed decision.

[–]IAmAN00bie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's a smart idea to make this thread. There's no way other Smashers wouldn't talk about this on smashboards or on Twitter/Facebook, which means they would eventually end up here. But by making this thread will all of this info, the mods can make it so the discussion doesn't become a massive shitshow overtaking the sub (like the Alex Strife drama last year).

[–]shadow2684 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow... I don't want to comment on this because I honestly don't know any of these guys personally but if all of this is true (need to always have some skepticism on everything) then what a horrible situation. Especially on a place as Sky's house where smashers should feel tight knit like a family but then getting harassed like that is insane to me. Will try to stay the most objective as I can but it's hard when it's stuff like this...

[–]letsallpoo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

:( MacD is one of my favorite players, so I really hope this isn't true. But if it is, then I hope justice prevails

[–]DJToast3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly I'm not surprised with how Sky behaved during all of this. But truthfully, I am sorry this has happened to you Sparky, nobody should have to go through anything like this.

Best of luck bruh.

[–]Either way...FrankTheFlank [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just wow, this is crazy. He's at Mango's for funday right now and everyone is calling him out.

[–]jataba115 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry Sparky. I'm sorry you felt pressured into not speaking up about this. For anyone else, don't be afraid to call someone out. If you feel legitimately endangered or scared you have the right to go to the police if you so feel. Don't let anybody take advantage of you and your feelings. Don't be embarrassed for other people's shitty actions. Hell I don't know anybody on here but if anyone needs to just talk to a stranger PM me. I don't want people in a community I love to feel scared or hurt.

If you feel you're being targeted or people are trying to keep you from speaking out on this subreddit then I'm sure the mods can help you out, they are great guys and will help.

[–]lincoln3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The fact that Sky just seems to say to accept it and doesn't seem to even want to do much to help is just sick. Hopefully he gets into trouble too, we won't have to hear his casting for awhile.

[–]gregidot [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Hey. Sky here.

All i'm going to say right now is its unfortunate that the person who wrote this was interested in drama and views and not really the truth.

Since I lived at the house, saw most of it, and obviously have evidence to support that not only is sparky exaggerating things but there are things that sparky has done to my body personally as well as things that he's admitted that are obviously omitted here to make his name great.

But if this reporter doesn't care about the truth - please wait patiently as I will be making a video exposing everything - on an unlisted account not on my channel.

[–]burningbagel [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"This person was only interested in drama and views and not the truth"

"Please wait patiently as I will be making a video exposing everything"

Ok regardless of what the actual truth is are you fucking kidding me how can you not have any semblance of self-awareness with this shit

[–]gregidot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not posting a video to my channel - I'm making an unlisted video that nobody is gonna see and it's gonna be taken down. It's on a channel i don' tuse. what's the problem with that?

[–]letsallpoo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sky i think you're a cool dude but i think it's weird to accuse someone of just being interested in drama and views and then say you're going to make "a video exposing everything" lol

[–]notbob- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why are these skype logs so incomplete and out of order? Part of this post is making allegations against Sky, but the Skype logs are an important part of those allegations and they're really incomplete and confusing.

[–]RedShirtTheGod [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My respect for MacD has definitely gone down after reading this.

[–]doctor_wizzle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't care about MacD's personal life.

[–]gsmVoiD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From what I can tell, the first Skype message seems to be taken out of context. Sky says "None of us wanted to stop McCain because ..." immediately after talking about "all being trolled into who we were today." I think what Sky meant is that they didn't want to tell MacD to stop trolling because it's a very common thing at the house. I don't know about anything else in this situation from what I've read, but that's all I can really tell.

[–]zoocrazed [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Looks like smash is the new minecraft, disgusting sexual predators.

[–]MISSION COMPREETEuclidismybro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, just generalize all of us, because of the actions of few.

Fuck you.