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[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (32子コメント)

Why is this even a dilemma? Just kill 1 person instead of more? What am I missing?

[–]Scrubtac [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

The idea is that if you didn't get involved, the train would keep going straight and kill more people. But by pulling the lever, less people die, but the one death is on you. It's a metaphor for a situation like "50 innocent people are infected by a terrible disease, should the government just kill them all if they know it will spread and kill more people?"

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

I still dont see the problem. By choosing not to act you are responsible for the death of 5 people?

[–]TheNerdyBA [スコア非表示]  (29子コメント)

It's the moral dilemma of actively killing an innocent person for the greater good.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (28子コメント)

And the 5 people you kill by not pulling the lever? Why am I the only one feeling empathy for them?

[–]Ultramerican [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

That's a perfectly reasonable question and is the point of the mental exercise. Was nuking Japan the right choice? What about killing people who you know will kill again because they are monsters? Insert any other greater good paradox.

This is just an exploration of how people view morality. A lot of people view responsibility differently. It's harder for most people to be responsible for one death through action than to be responsible for multiple through inaction.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

But in this example there is no third option and you can clearly and without doubt see all consequences?

Bombing Japan had like a million factors, nuances going on.

Here it is completly binary with one bad option and one worse option.

[–]Ultramerican [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

It looks like asking someone about this exact moral paradox is the true autism test.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Being able to emphatise with 5 people more than 1 makes me autistic? A non autistic person would do nothing then rationalise to themselves they had nothing to do with those 5 people dying when they stood infront of a lever?

[–]Drolemerk [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

As before, a trolley is hurtling down a track towards five people. You are on a bridge under which it will pass, and you can stop it by putting something very heavy in front of it. As it happens, there is a very fat man next to you – your only way to stop the trolley is to push him over the bridge and onto the track, killing him to save five. Should you proceed?

[–]xithy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Being unable to understand another person's feelings regarding this dilemma is the true Autism.

[–]MikeOShay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

SPOILERS in world war 2 you have to nuke Japan or kill Hitler, also Hitler is the villain

[–]GigaTusk [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Is this your first time attempting higher level thinking

[–]swinging_ship [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You aren't actively killing them. If you pull the lever, you are taking action that causes the death of that 1 person.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you dont pull the lever you made a choice to kill 5 people.

[–]Serious_Senator [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm on your level. It's simple logic. This is a guilt question. You save the 6 people, unless you care more about the 1 person than you do about the 6

[–]TheNerdyBA [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

No, the morally right choice is to pull the lever. But pulling the lever means being directly responsible for death, whereas if you do nothing, the number of people who die is greater, while the number of people you feel you have directly killed is less.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not pulling the lever seems pretty direct to me.

[–]TheNerdyBA [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You seem to empathise so well with the group of condemned people, but what about the other person on the track? What about the guy pulling the lever? It creates a moral paradox between the greater good and human survival instinct.

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What is the paradox? I know nothing about any of those people so I just empathise more with more people?

[–]RasslinsnotRasslin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Did I tie them to the track?

I'm not responsible for the condition they are found in I'm only responsible for my actions on finding them.

[–]Yuhwryu [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Think about it like this: Five people are dying of organ diseases, and they all need a separate organ to live. Will you go stab the shit out of a homeless person to get them the organs?

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I mean all of these examples are just pointless since they are different than the picture we are discussing here. There are more options in the real world in all examples everyone provides. In an abstract choice like pulling the lever or not pulling the lever its different.

[–]Yuhwryu [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, of course it's pointless, everything is pointless. Does that mean we should do nothing, you dipshit?

[–]a34fsd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What on earth are you even talking about? I am talking about this picture and then you suddenly bring an entirely different example and you expect me to not tell you to fuck off?

[–]MikeOShay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah but what if it's five Hitlers?

[–]RasslinsnotRasslin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You do feel empathy for them but only if you act are you a murderer