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[–]murica_sauceVidić 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Welcome to the sub-reddit - and congrats on making your first post. You'll probably get a decent # of downvotes for it (there are a lot of similar threads around here, and people get tired of reading them everyday) - but don't let that discourage you. The longer you're here, the more you'll get a feel for what people like to see posted.

That said - there are still plenty of us who appreciate a good substantive debate - so don't let the naysayers dissuade you if you have a logical thought to share.

Also - I probably shouldn't even be posting in response. /u/MullerReus (despite his username) hit the nail on the head with his post. Nothing more needs to be said here.

[–]MullerReusIt's hard to believe it's not Scholes! -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow, wow, wow now, what's wrong with my name!?

[–]murica_sauceVidić 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

A united fan who dedicates his name to bayern and BVB players? Say it ain't so! (You better be German, at least!).

That said - great flair.

[–]MullerReusIt's hard to believe it's not Scholes! -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, it's dedicated to yogurt! With a football spin on it!

[–]murica_sauceVidić 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know that I believe you - but, that said, I am not the one angrily downvoting your posts for no apparent reason.

[–]Entrepreneur_GirlJuan Manuel Mata García 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You'll learn the Red Devils etiquette as you go along. :) don't stress

[–]MullerReusIt's hard to believe it's not Scholes! 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We aren't broken, it's just the natural order of things, we lost the best manager of all time and now we have Van Gaal to sort shit out before he retires, we have a good young squad with a great future ahead of us and this needs to be the focal point, buying a fuck load of players to sort us out for 3/4 years won't work, we need a long time solution if we want to stay on top which Van Gaal is setting the foundations for right now.

[–]fakeplasticairbag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

buying a fuck load of players to sort us out for 3/4 years won't work,

This is exactly what SAF did time and time again.

Most of the SAF's players were around at the top for 3-4 years before he built a new sides. That is the normal and correct way to do things.

If we say that SAF essentially had 5 good squads once he got successful with us:

93-96, 96-99, 2000-05, 05-09, 10-13

Aside from Giggs, Scholes, Neville the vast majority of our players only really played for 1-2 of those squads as first team regulars.

Players constantly came and went under SAF in 3-5 year cycles, he was always rebuilding the squad to have about a 3-5 year peak before he'd move the older players on and sign/bring a new generation through.

Signing players to sort you out for 3-4 years is the right way to do things and the way SAF always did things.

we need a long time solution

You seem to have some weird misconception that squads if built right last for 5-10 years, I can't actually think of any example of that happening. Most players are around at the top for 5 years at the most.

if we want to stay on top which Van Gaal is setting the foundations for right now.

Since when is LVG trying to lay longer than 3-4 foundations?

The majority of his signings are veterans or guys in their mid 20s.

[–]joshbishop82 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

so, we're not a bad team. we just need to be molded the right way. most of the pieces are there already. Formation is important, first off I think we can all agree that we play more attractive football going 4-3-3. Obviously we cant play that formation every week, especially not against teams like Chelsea/Arsenal/City. But lets say...for the most part that 4-3-3 is the way to go. Front row we have Martial-Rooney-?, that ? is the big question, does that mean Mata, Lingard, Young, Memphis, Rashford. Of that bunch long term I think Rashford for the coming season I think Memphis fits that position. Rooney up top is controversial unless he gets his shooting boots back on. Zlatan if we get him might be perfect for it. In the middle, thinking long term I think Schneiderlin, Herrera and possibly a new box-to-box CM....someone like Pogba but he aint coming so with all the speculation of Renato Sanchez then maybe he's the man for the job. At the back....I think we're good apart from a quality CB to partner Smalling. Usual suspects at the back are Rojo, Shaw, Smalling and Darmian. Rojo can fill the CB role until we get a monster CB at which point Rojo becomes a sub. Blind for those wondering was my O'Shea-esce choice, he can fill the void of many positions but he's a sub in my eyes. All in all, three new signings (Zlatan on a free, Sanchez for 30m and Bonucci for 40m). 70m out. I dont think we should be off loading anyone at this point, a lot of quality, a lot of raw quality in youth. If we get Mourinho then Mata is gone and possibly young and Valencia with him. if that happens then maybe 40m in. Total loss of 30m. not bad business and enough left over for upgrading the main stand. Youth facilities have been widely reported as lacking, in comparison to City and maybe thats true and maybe not but given the results of the youth (U-21's the exception) I think we need to sort the youth structure out...its what the club are all about

Edit - Holy crap how did I forget the tree, yes...ship him out too. so, maybe 15-20m for him.

[–]patthetree 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi there and welcome to the sub. Personally I think we need time more than anything. We have a good set of young players that need some time to gel together and to adapt to the league. however there are a few changes we could make to the squad to improve it.

We need a good CB to partner Smalling so I would opt for bonnucci, Laporte or Marquinhos. We need to update CM with a new CDM and box to box midfielder. I would offload Fellaini and Carrick and buy people like Gundogan and maybe just focus on blind being the new CDM. We also need a new Rw... Griezeman or Rues would be ideal but I don't see either happening