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[–]subkumquat 0ポイント1ポイント  (25子コメント)

And frankly, there isn't really a position in that because God's primary goal is not to make us comfortable.

I replied to that. My reply is what you quoted. Go back and read it.

[–]Grumpy_Kong -1ポイント0ポイント  (24子コメント)

Yet you keep insisting things like 'why didn't He teach us modern everything?'

Dude, that's a bias. A legit thing that is screwing with your mental processes and making very simple and easily laid out statements seem cryptic because you are trying to conform your experiences AROUND your presuppositions.

And that is a blindness I can do nothing about, no matter how many times I show you your own words.

[–]subkumquat 1ポイント2ポイント  (23子コメント)

So ignoring the fact that you were wrong about who mentioned primary purpose first? Got it.

Soap has been around since 2800BC in Babylonia. How is that a modern convenience? How is boiling water a modern convenience? Where am I insisting on anything other than that, other than my admittedly tongue-in-cheek mold statement and the biotech comment I dismissed in my original post? Actually quote it. Not the made up one you posted above. Show me.

Yes, one of us is blind but it's not me.

[–]Grumpy_Kong -1ポイント0ポイント  (22子コメント)

other than my admittedly tongue-in-cheek mold statement and the biotech commen

Just goes to show how unaware of history you are, as Egyptians used moldy bread and fat as a primitive antibiotic.

Only some went blind, or died painfully.

Not the made up one you posted above

I did, what I posted within this formatting:

this thingy here

It means I copied it from your earlier post, which was two posts above.

It was your words, and now you deny you typed that and are insisting I show you.

I'm sorry I don't have time to deal with your particular flavor of madness today.

[–]subkumquat 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

Are you truly that obtuse?

My first post in this thread was: "So why not a chapter in the bible about bacterial diseases? A verse about bread mold would have been quite helpful. A commandment to boil water would have been nice as well. A bit about CRISPR-CAS9 is probably asking a bit much, but a nice verse about hand washing would have been appreciated, I'm sure."

Show me in there where I said anything about his primary purpose. Now read the last paragraph of your reply to my initial comment: "And frankly, there isn't really a position in that because God's primary goal is not to make us comfortable."

That is the first time that primary purpose of God was brought up. By you. What you've been quoting "And no, his primary goal is to kill us all and judge us, or so it seems." is my reply to you bringing it up in the first place. The wording alone should tell you it was a reply. You wrote it first. Own up to it.

I'm still waiting on you to show me where I posted about wanting all of the modern conveniences but I'm guessing you will continue lying for Jesus with made up quote like "Yet you keep insisting things like 'why didn't He teach us modern everything?'" when I never said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the reason my comment was tongue in cheek is because of the history of mold usage in Egypt, China, and Japan. I'm sure you know all about those too though.

I'm sure you have a minute to admit you were wrong, no?

[–]Grumpy_Kong -1ポイント0ポイント  (20子コメント)

You know, I spent about 20 mins carefully crafting a post, linking to your now 4 hour old comment.

But, it turns out: I don't care anymore. I don't give a fuck about relieving your ignorance.

I have spent several threads trying to lay this out to you on a kindergarten level, yet your bulletproof assurance is so great that nothing scratches it.

So I've decided to give up on bothering, and now I'm going to spend a few thousand characters writing a short story:


Dex Cranton leaned forward, heavy onto the handles of the Dynamax 5000 Ultrasonic Ore Shiverer, jamming the crystalline blade deep into the crusty surface of Edna-2067. Weightless dust and small shards of stone soundlessly cascaded away from the work surface and off into the infinity of space.

The giant body of the asteroid stretched kilometers in each direction, belying the cute little round shapes with a single crater that passed for asteroids in a 3rd grade physics class.

He never understood how those came to be the popular depiction. Sure space rocks were of all sizes, some only a fleck of dust that your eyes cannot see. Most of the ones worth naming were giants compared to most manufactured space stations.

After cutting a line about two feet long and a foot deep, Dex gently slid the milky-translucent blade from the rock. His mind called up the fact that this was probably the first time since this rock formed that something had marked it. He felt proud of this fact, every asteroid he worked was a ground that no man had yet tread, that nothing had yet struck.

He knew it a lot of ways, that this pride was meaningless. There were literally thousands of belt miners drifting out in the Hildan asteroid group, and every day thousands of human feet touched down on a new planetesimals every daycycle.

Yet every time he entered his daily rounds into the log, he felt he was in some small way reflecting those great pioneers of old as they forded unknown seas and touched first the mountain's peak. He knew his risks were just as great, maybe greater...

With no humans in literally tens of thousands of miles, he was more alone than any groundpounder could possibly understand. Things that were no big deal back planetside, such as an infected cut or a bad tooth, could mean serious injury or death.

Sure, he managed to make it to Stayer's Rock once every six months for some well deserved RnR and a quick medical. The trip was far too expensive in precious reaction engine fuel to take any more frequently. His mind drifted over his last visit, his moderate winnings in the casinos, his abject failure at hooking up with anyone...

That last one was a known downside of being a belt miner. The job was dangerous, and few women applied. And even fewer opportunities arose for a chance encounter when your nearest neighbor is so far away that the time delay makes casual conversation awkward.

He began the second cut on his sample, a right angle from the leftmost tip of his original line. As always, the blurring monocrystal blade needed barely any any force to pull it through a foot thick crust of hardened calcite.

This was what he loved most about asteroid mining, the time during the cut. The buzzing sensation, barely felt, that tickled his fingers. He loved the whorls and patterns of fresh exposed rockface, free from the marrings of oxidation or liquid erosion. He even loved the feeling of the suit pressing up against him, its positive pressure preventing lungs and other sundry organs from expanding fatally in the absence of an atmosphere.

He even loved it when...

Suddenly, something went 'clink'.

This confused him for the briefest of moments. There was nothing on his plasweb suit that was metallic, nothing to make that noise... Where had it come from?

As he was mystified, he lost focus on his Ore Shiverer, and the blade canted at a bad angle and popped up a corner of the block at speed. The shard flew off and whizzed by Dex's head.

That was a close one, dust and micropebbles were fine, the suit could handle it, but too large a shard like that one would act like a razor-blade, slicing through several layers of his life preserving clothing. The panic had welled and passed in a brief moment...

Only to be replaced with awe.

As the flake that had been removed revealed something shiny...

Ores usually never appeared in their pure metal state in space. Ones that do on Earth, like gold and such, are actually the result of microbes that digest rock and leave the metal in a very pure form as a thin layer on their skin. And when they colonize in the millions, very pure samples of metal can occur in native rock.

But this was space. There are no bacteria out here to concentrate metallic atoms.

Then how!?

He looked closer, and as the tiny fleck of gold swam into view, he saw that it had ... writing on it?

His gloved hand scraped at the surface, removing any electrostatically charged dust, removing all ambiguity.

And he stared closer at the words, written in plain english:

"Tycho Miniature Model Co."

"Little Giant type 5 model asteroid 1/64th scale"

"Please accompany children during playtime as this toy is a choking hazard"

[–]subkumquat 0ポイント1ポイント  (19子コメント)

So you admit you posted about god's primary purpose for the bible first then? Got it. I never stated that the primary purpose of the bible was to make people or healthy or any of that. Your reply to my first post said that. I never did. I snarkily replied that it was to kill and judge. I still don't know why you think I said the primary pumps of the bible was what you said. It baffles me but I guess it's part of the handbook?

And you further admit that you made up the quote where I asked for all modern conveniences when all I truly asked for was soap (which has been around for thousands of years) and boiled water? Got it.

And you had time for that lengthy reply? Were you lying earlier when you said you didn't have time for this? What do you tell the truth about? Do you not care enough to reply? With swear words, no less!

Is your cognitive dissonance wavering?

Where will the goalposts move next?

Will you actually reply with more than word salad?

Who knows. Either way, I am entertained.

[–]NimbleNegro 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

This dude is way more intelligent and has a way more sophisticated worldview than most of the morons on here, instead of trying to pretend like you got the best of him (you didn't you're just comin off as an idiot) maybe try to understand what he's saying.

[–]Grumpy_Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What the hell bro?

You act like a total gimpkisser back in the other thread and then come here (kinda?) seem like you're supporting my argument?

Admit it, you just liked the story about the asteroid miner...

[–]NimbleNegro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well you were just objectively wrong about the article, what do you want me to say?

[–]subkumquat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All he's done is twist words, move goal posts, not answer direct questions, falsely attribute quotes, and lie. How is that intelligent again?

And what is he trying to say beyond basic apologist rhetoric? Why not mention boiling water or soap? Both existed in the world at that time and would have saved many more lives than the food restrictions mentioned in the bible. It's a curious omission, no? I'm not even saying that disproves god or anything like that even but he's attempting to attribute that to me. His arguments are specious at best and disingenuous at worst.

[–]Grumpy_Kong -1ポイント0ポイント  (14子コメント)

Dex's mind froze with panic as the implications struck him:

He was the first being in recorded human history to touch this rock, and yet underneath the surface was a toy label marking this kilometers long behemoth as a child's toy.

When were the parents going to come by and put it all back in the toybox?

[–]subkumquat 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Last word? K.

[–]Grumpy_Kong -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

You could at least fucking thank me for the story I wrote you..