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[–]batia0121 23ポイント24ポイント  (66子コメント)

I know someone would reply with your question.

And unfortunately I didn't "change" my opinion. It was only "re-enforced".

Call me a racist all you want, but this is coming from a person who had never met a black person in his life before that. So yes, I did have pre-conceived notions about them. But all my interactions after that did not help negating the opinion either.

I can't pretend to be PC when literally I had never met one single nice African American.

I had met African Africans since then, and they are nice. And I don't think of them as the same race as African Americans. African Americans I ve met are mean and entitled.

[–]BlueSardines 146ポイント147ポイント  (20子コメント)

You should have pulled out some chopsticks and performed karate on him if you could see him out of your funny eyes

[–]Bonershorts 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking perfect

[–]JSleek 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what happened? I bet the black guy charged him an extra $10 for taking a bunch of photos with him, because Asian tourists love taking photos with strangers.

[–]pinktini [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was about to upvote this, but then I saw karate. This read had so much potential le sigh

[–]Xarddrax 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/XFaDl3f.png

[–]Amaxandrine -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, that's golden.

I'll have to tag the guy above as "The Racist With The Funny Eyes" after my sides come back from orbit.

[–]yoloswag420oddfuture [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

lmao

[–]Rysmoosh 40ポイント41ポイント  (20子コメント)

Thats like, the definition of racism man lol

[–]batia0121 15ポイント16ポイント  (16子コメント)

Sure. Who am I impressing?

[–]amsterdamhamstergram 18ポイント19ポイント  (15子コメント)

You know what man, I personally think that we're all racist in some way or another. At least you have some recognition of your own attitude.

I am. I know it too. And I'm not talking like they're brains are smaller, play ball rap or sell dope. That's the old generation. Our generation's racism is subtler and more nuanced. My kids and grandkids are going to think I'm a P.O.S.. But at this point, it's kind of just the person that I am and I recognize that. I'm not a hateful or resentful person, but let's call it like it is; I'm going to make a split second judgement upon meeting you.

It's impossible to have a discussion about race/class/gender if you aren't willing to admit that you're racist/elitist/sexist to some degree. The barriers aren't going to get broken unless we're absolutely honest with ourselves.

[–]batia0121 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hear hear.

[–]Dawnsc2 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

You sound like a skinny insecure sheltered asian kid. Am i hitting the mark?

[–]jambears 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

you get burned by enough black people you just stop dealing with them. it's not nice but I don't enjoy feeling like a target so some people don't get offended.

[–]pablo_pick_ass_ohhh [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

you get burned by enough black people

Yet there's no way in hell you'd volunteer to be born black yourself. American society provides a shit ton of benefits for white folks, whether you choose to admit it or not.

[–]jambears [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Are you implying this gives black people the right to rob people?

[–]jambears [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Of course not. I'd be the first to admit it. Still doesn't change the fact that I've had a lot.of.shitty personal experiences.

[–]ballgame09 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's a scientific fact that we are more prone to "be wairy" of people that don't look like us. It's in out DNA. Having said that I don't think I'm a racist. I will however make fun of people of different races based on stereotypes, including my own. It's never serious though, just kidding around. I am from Boston though, and we do have a history of being a racist city, so maybe I am and just don't realize it. I think Artie lang said it best " anyone who says they have never said the N word has never bet on an NBA game". Maybe it is racist though, because I won't say any negative stereotypes around the black people I know. It's mostly coworkers, I'm not really good friends with any black people (not a conscience desicion). Maybe if I was closer to a black person, I'd make a few jokes in front of him. I'll make "positive" stereotypes jokes in front of them though: being better at sports, having huge dicks. But I'll tell stereotypically jokes about other races (Irish, Italian, British) in front of people and nobody ever gets mad. They know I'm just kidding. And I get it, they are all white, and so am I. But if heard black people say the same things in front of white people too and everyone just laughs. One time one of the white guys said something "racist" back to the black guy and it was just awkward silence as everyone looked at the black guy. He laughed, but it must have been weird for him.Like when Imus said that shit about the Rutgers women's bball team. I don't know if he really is a racist or not, but that was obviously just a joke. I've heard a shitload of stories about people tweeting or posting a joke online and there life is ruined, it's just a joke people, lighten up. On Reddit you see that white trash meme with that guy next to his truck with a mullet all the time, but wasn't there some subreddit that got in a shitload of trouble for making black jokes? I'm not saying racism isn't a problem, I know it is. I know people that are really racist, and they are pieces of shit. But just cuz you tell a joke doesn't mean you hate people of different races. Sorry, I went all over the place with that post. TLDR; it's programmed in us to mistrust people who look different. I think it sucks that we can make fun of certain people but not others, even when everybody knows we are just kidding.

Edit: I just thought of something that I guess would be considered racist. I don't have any daughters (thanks God) but if I did I wouldn't want them to date black guys. Not because I don't like black guys, but from what I've seen in my life is that they are really smooth talkers (I know that sounds racist as shit). And because of this I'd be afraid that they'd be able to talk her into having sex better then a white or Asian etc. Would. I mean I wouldn't tell her not to date a black guy, but I'd be more nervous that she'd have sex with him. Does that make me a piece of shit?

[–]batia0121 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for still having the courage and comment.

[–]amsterdamhamstergram [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Haha I had Artie Lang and Patrice O'neal in mind when I was thinking about this topic. Being uncomfortable or awkward in the moment sucks, but that's kind of how you get past all of the tension that isn't being said.

[–]Tom_The_Human [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I agree. We as humans have evolved to "put things into boxes" as a survival mechanism. It is what it is, and part of what it is is a mechanism which is conducive to racism under the right circumstances. I notice that I feel more weary around people who seem "ghetto" (which a lot of western black people come off as) as a result of them being portrayed in the media as being dangerous (which is based in truth).

[–]O-Face -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I had met African African since then, and they are nice. And I don't think of them as the same race as African Americans. African Americans I ve met are mean and entitled.

Pedantry incoming?

Wouldn't he be more like, culturalist? Not racist? I mean skin color obviously isn't the issue for him so what do you even call that?

Edit: Another example, say he said the same thing about white Americans, but that he's met white Brits or Aussies who were all nice. Would it still be racist?

[–]chimera_palace [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

no because the only people participating in that culture, are blacks. so yes it's racist.

[–]I_AM_TARA 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Not being racist" is not the same as "being pc"

Tell me more about these nice african americans you met. You seem to be implying that because they are nice, they cannot be african american. That's highly illogical. You are warping the definition of race to justify your racism towards black people.

Let's put it this way. I now know plenty of Chinese men. However the first chinese man I interacted with as a child molested me. It would be factually incorrect for me to say "I don't consider my coworkers and friends to be chinese men because they're not pedophiles."

[–]batia0121 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tell me more about these nice african americans you met.

Please read my comment again, I ve not met a nice one. I ve met nice Africans.

You seem to be implying that because they are nice, they cannot be african american.

I didnt make that implication. I will however, judge someone longer before acknowledging that he/she is a nice person had him/her were black.

As for the molestation scenario, if you say you are completely racist towards ALL Chinese men because of that incident, I will really understand you.

[–]forestfluff 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

if you say you are completely racist towards ALL Chinese men because of that incident, I will really understand you.

What? So if someone was abused by a person of color (which I was) then that is completely logical for me to go the rest of my life thinking every person who is that color is a bad person? That is terribly unhealthy and awful. No.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

And unfortunately I didn't "change" my opinion. It was only "re-enforced".

Ah, so you were already racist before it and used that opportunity to say "see? Black people suck!".

[–]ChocolateButtSauce 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

I mean, don't you get how illogical that racism is though? You're essentially saying all black people are bad because I haven't met a nice black person, except the ones I did meet, but they aren't actually black in my eyes. Can you not see the doublethink going on here? You're essentially using a conformation bias to prop up a racism that you just admitted to having no real justification for. That's straight up dumb.

You might not feel embarrassed by being racist, but surely no one wants to be stupid?

[–]batia0121 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thank you for trying to help me, I know you think you are doing a good thing.

Here's the thing, your rationality is different from mine in this one particular scenario. My experience and my history justifies me from having my opinion which in your point of view is prejudiced.

[–]ChocolateButtSauce 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

I mean I guess my issue here is that your rationality doesn't seem like rationality at all. If you had said you never had a nice experience with black people and that's why you have a prejudice against them, then that is a rationality I could understand. I wouldn't agree with it but I would understand.

However you claimed that you did meet some nice black people, but seemingly just so you wouldn't have to change your perception with this new information, were willing to just ignore their blackness. I mean, it just sounds like being racist for the sake of being racist and I would like you explain that rationale to me please.

[–]Magnifi-Cat [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

reread his comment, he said

I had met African African since then, and they are nice. And I don't think of them as the same race as African Americans. African Americans I ve met are mean and entitled.

[emphasis added]

[–]ChocolateButtSauce [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well I'm pretty sure he edited that correction in after I had replied to his comments.

[–]takelongramen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So he is saying that it isn't about black people, it's about black people in the U.S?

The conclusion he draws here is that african africans are not the same race as african africans, which firstly is scientifically not true and secondly seems like a cheap excuse, because he clearly talks about just black people first. He then uses this constructed difference in race to reinforce his feelings about african americans.

If he would have actually think logical and rational, his entire train of thought will collapse if he either meets an african african that is an asshole or an african american that is not an asshole.

If anything, using his skewed logic, this shows that it's not an issue of skin color or race (obviously) how he himself states, but a complex mixture issue of income bracket, social environment, education and many other things.

He just reduced his racism from all blacks to black born in the US? Making racism more complex does not make it less racist

[–]shruuming 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I responded to this guy and now I regret it. There's no arguing or reasoning with him because his worldview is not based on any real rationality. He was racist before he was scammed by a black guy and now he's just using the experience to reinforce his perspective. Even if he met a million nice black people, he wouldn't change his mind. Textbook cognitive dissonance. He is just trying to justify his racism.

No point in even talking to a person like this who obviously lacks the higher brain cognition necessary to reason. It's like wrestling with a pig in the mud; you get dirty and the pig likes it.

[–]spraj -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's prejudiced by definition. Your point of view is incorrect and immoral.

You are in no way justified in your thinking, you're just a racist.

[–]jambears -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

your catching mad shit. Honestly a lot of black people treat asians like shit. i understand your wariness.

[–]LolUnidanGotBanned -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop wasting your time, everyone knows blacks aren't whites.

[–]imaneuropean -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

US people are just really butt hurt about whole racism thing.

In many parts of Europe it's pretty normal to assume all black people are shady and if you meet one nice black person you can change your thinking to, "Oh, all black people are shady, except this one guy I know is nice.".

I don't think that is really that racist. Just a stereotype based on the all the black people (not that much) we have here.

[–]ChocolateButtSauce [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Mate I live in a European country and I don't think that nor does anyone I know.

[–]hazmat95 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

...what? So because in europe people are racist fucks that means its okay to be racist in america? What kind of logic is that?

Just a stereotype based on the all the black people

thats racist, you are racist. Being a racist is bad

[–]batia0121 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's about the same situation everywhere in the world besides the US and maybe UK.

Reddit is just 90% US liberal.

[–]quadbaser 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Man that's a pretty long winded way to say "I'm an ignorant bigot".

[–]Kinoblau -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are wild fucking racist.

[–]burger_face 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are definitely a racist, by any measure of the word. Your explanation only confirms the depth of your ignorance.