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RantI am a recovering RedPiller, AMA! (self.TheBluePill)

servitefriars が 投稿

Yep, I have grown past that stage. AMA!

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[–]servitefriars[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The scary thing about some of these Red Pillers is that they are regular, normal looking men who hold jobs as waiters, personal trainer, manager, or programmer. People we interact with in our day to day lives holding these outrageous views. Kind of a scary thought imo

[–]VienLuna 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So many of the RedPill posts I see through BluePill, it seems pretty clear if you read between the lines these guys are just Joe Blow in real life - average guy, who often is putting himself into situations he doesn't like with his own behavior, then quietly seething IRL. TRP seems like the place to come and "take the monster out" so to speak. It is pretty terrifying, especially when you see guys describe their wife or gf as feminist (or any code word for strong female - "domineering," "control freak," etc which often, when you read the post, means the woman gives ideas and the man just goes along then feels resentful) because you know this guy isn't espousing RP beliefs to them.

Edit: Also, that reminded me of Fight Club, lol. "We cook your meals, we pick up your trash..."

[–]servitefriars[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I left RedPill because some of their posts I thought were absurd. I remember seeing posts like "This is why women should stay in the house and not vote!" and "See! This is why I don't hold doors for pretty womenz anymoar!" and they were serious about it. I kind of let the first one slide but it was a recurring theme and that's when I thought wow these guys were nuts.

[–]Wo-person 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

Is it hate or fear of women?

[–]servitefriars[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

A little bit of both, it was probably my frustration and constant rejection of women. Most American women don't have to deal with rejection (some do though) but usually most of them don't know how much rejection hurts in terms of not wanting to be associated with you for your nose, height, race, etc. To top it off some women weren't nice about it! :(

[–]wonderingwhether54gettin' it on with the Nephilim 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

We get rejected all the time. I once wanted to ask out a guy who I had a massive crush on, I walked with him to tell him that I liked him, and before I opened my mouth, he asked me whether I thought my roommate liked him. Rejection happens for us too love.

[–]servitefriars[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hope all is well now! :D

[–]wonderingwhether54gettin' it on with the Nephilim 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meh, I am over it but I never asked a guy out again. Rejection hurts, male or female.

[–]Wo-person 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Everyone has to deal with rejection, women aren't excerpt and men aren't victims.

[–]servitefriars[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course I'm not denying that we all have to deal with rejection, but in terms of dating if you live in America it's pretty much a given guys have to do the initiating while women sit back and choose (through a lot of creeps, dick pics, and physcos though)

[–]Wo-person 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you need to recover more.

[–]luridlurkerObserving the Dick Derby 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

much a given guys have to do the initiating while women sit back and choose

I know guys who play by those rules, and I know guys who don't. Neither group has much trouble. I'd buy that in a small town, maybe it doesn't work that way... but that's not the norm.

In my dating days, I did the asking about 50% of the time, and no guy I asked out was surprised that gasp a girl was asking.

If you're in a world where all the girls seem to sit back and choose, maybe take a breather and sit back for a bit. No one's going to ask you out first if you're always beating them to the punchline.

[–]greenchrissy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm curious as to why you say American women don't have to deal with rejection. Non-American do?

I'm American and I've definitely had to deal with rejection--it sucks. I guess at least the people were nice about it, for the most part (still fucking stings though). I'm very sorry some were awful about it, that extra sux.

[–]servitefriars[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I only want to speak on behalf of own country and culture, hence why I said American women. Of course, I'm not denying that some women get rejected, a lot of women do.

However, it's been a cultural consensus that society as agreed upon, that it is usually men who must first do the initiating. If it is usually American women who are doing the asking first then this is news to me

[–]sylverbound 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a false consensus. It's only men who are bitter who are claiming it's a cultural consensus. All the women get ignored when, like right now, we are trying to tell you that we ALL get rejected too.

[–]VienLuna 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think more communication between the sexes in general (i.e. society allowing men and women to more easily have platonic friendships with each other, be more open in their relationships, etc) would be a great way to end misconceptions like this. Women definitely get rejected. We definitely give men the eye and see them not return it. We definitely watch gfs get with guys way hotter than any we've been with, etc etc etc. Any imaginable scenario that would make you feel bad as a man in reference to women happens to women in reference to men (happens to all genders in reference to whoever their type is actually...).

Is it easier for a woman to find a date - typically - in American culture than a straight man, all things being equal in terms of look and sociability? Sure. But that doesn't mean the people available for you to date are people you would want to date (or sleep with). Men may get 10 messages on a dating website, and a woman 100, but 90 of the one for the woman will be people who are creepy, pushy, have nothing in common with her, etc but feel - since they find her attractive - they need to force their attention on her anyway. Men deal with a lot less of that.

Women are also taught that pursuing men, liking sex, having casual sex, etc are "bad" and thus even if they have the benefit of a higher number of dating/sexual partners, they are then punished by society if they pursue relationships or have a lot of partners. Not so with men.

[–]wonderingwhether54gettin' it on with the Nephilim 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

what would have most convinced you to leave? It would be nice to know what is most effective in reaching red pillers.

[–]servitefriars[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk, cause honestly it was myself that started to catch on what the Red Pillers said.

[–]p1rikito 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How old are you?

[–]servitefriars[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

25, I know most people would assume RedPillers are these 16 high school kids (which for the most part, they are) but the age diversity was pretty large for the most part

[–]COPCO2 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey there, brave post. It's not easy being vulnerable about something in front of a group of people.

TRP says that it's results are what drives the community. Did you try any TRP tactics and measure the outcome? Did they live up to the promise?

Thanks again for doing an AMA, it's super interesting.

Edit: btw I have a ton of questions, and feel free to ignore any I ask if they're uncomfortable!

[–]servitefriars[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks. I was pretty active in the PUA game they regulary do, I tried adapting a lot of their masculinity beliefs, starting seeing things as alpha and beta. Honestly, it just felt really shallow. I felt hollow inside and was consumed full of hatred. It didn't feel right to me. It was when I read some of the posts they made like "Wow this is why women are inferior species" I started questioning my involvement with this group. Because I don't view women as inferior

[–]dal33t 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How did you first get sucked in to TRP, and what made you finally quit?

[–]servitefriars[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, I was just frustrated I kept getting rejected by women. Some were nice, but I had women laugh at my face, tell me I was gross, and just ignore me. I guess it was the frustration and the Madonna type women that I encountered which me led to these dark thoughts

[–]HeSayYouBradeRunner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, I was just frustrated I kept getting rejected by women.

So, in the interest of helping you continue recover, ask yourself why you were frustrated? From where did this come? Do you feel entitled to female attention and approval? Do you feel entitled to some degree of it? If so, why? If not, why feel frustrated?

Closely and honestly examining your feelings and the assumptions from which they spring may help you get past these struggles.

[–]FailedTech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going to ask the important question:

You ever get to sleep with Chad Thundercock? I know how much redpillars drool over him.