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REPORT: Germany Welcomed TWO MILLION UNVETTED MIGRANTS in 2015 (thegatewaypundit.com)

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[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 29ポイント30ポイント  (26子コメント)

I hate to say it, but you know there will be growing sympathies for the Nazi party after enough of these events.

And then, what do you know, bonehead Europe will reverse its socialist course and go full-on fascist, authoritarianism by a different name.

What has made America special over the years is that we didn't support authoritarianism of any kind, for that is the polarizer of politics.

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

In this case though, the Muslims are doing something wrong, where as the Jews murdered in the holocaust were not migrants on welfare, raping and killing the existing population.

The Nazis justified Jewish genocide by falsely painting Jews as horrible subhuman monsters, when they were not.

Nobody is fabricating the rape and murder numbers coming out of Europe, if anything the fabrication comes from the silencing of the information by left wing media.

Pointing out the truths of Islamic teaching is not demonizing it, it's informing the public as to it's true identity.

[–]non_pc_throwaway_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

It seems to me like your points are actually supporting the parent comment's argument. From my point of view it doesn't seem too far fetched, either. Germany has been dealt a pretty bad hand for the game it has to play now, and as the taboo around German ethnic identity wears off, I think we will see the country take a long trip toward the right.

[–]cgar28 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

From my point of view the jedi are evil!

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only a Sith deals in absolutes!

[–]non_pc_throwaway_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, my point of view being that I live here, and have an intuition as to what happens to this society under the surface. You might not see it from outside, but there is a very deep conflict brewing, beyond the usual "far-left vs center-right".

[–]cgar28 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? I was making a joke. Lol

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there is a favorable way to deal with the Muslim populations in Europe.

Short of killing them, you either deport them or forcefully integrate them, and neither is going to be accepted by the multiculturalist left.

[–]0ttervonBismarckCanadian Conservative 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

What has made America special over the years is that we didn't support authoritarianism of any kind, for that is the polarizer of politics.

The Democrats have been authoritarian since Woodrow Wilson, and now the GOP has Trump.

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm with you.

[–]auryn0151 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

What has made America special over the years is that we didn't support authoritarianism of any kind

I'm curious why you think that's the case. America has similar governance (a form of democracy), has trampled on personal and economic freedoms, ignored its own constitution countless times. Issued and enforced executive actions which bypass government systems...etc.

Why do you not see that as authoritarian?

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

We have. We've gone off course for particularly the past 100 years. However, we're talking about a system with hundreds of millions of people, and there are a lot of government departments, businesses, jobs, families, towns, communities that make up that number. When I say we've been better than authoritarianism, I mean to say that comparatively, we've done better than other groups of people of similar size. Look around the world. Who has fought tyranny more? There are maybe 10 countries that I could put in our class, and for some arguments, you can put America on top of the bloody mountain. History has never been pretty, so let's not culturally Marxist-ize our accomplishments and values.

The amount of people in America who want socialism is still a minority. Are there any other highly-developed countries in the world that can say the same thing?

I give the most credit to present-day Switzerland, Israel, Hong Kong, but they are no America.

America's presence during the Cold War took 80% of the world's poorest out of poverty, by spreading the concept of capitalism. Think about that accomplishment.

[–]NewAlexandria -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Are you saying that, prior to 100yr ago (before we went off-course), we were going to other countries fighting authoritarianism? Just trying to posit when you think we did this, so that we can have a clear conversation.

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, we're referring to different things. America's progressive era (read: authoritarianism) started about 100 years ago.

I'm not super knowledgeable of US military history, particularly prior to the 20th century, but I can say two things:

a) we fought a lot of battles in the 20th century against oppressive regimes

b) we are the rare country that invades countries and then gives the land back to the country

[–]Colonize_The_Moon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even prior to the 20th century we have a pretty good history of throat-punching authoritarians.

We laid down the Monroe Doctrine in 1823 to ensure that European powers wouldn't engage in creating empires in North or South America, or attempt to conquer any of the newly independent colonies. It's been almost two centuries, and there's really been only one instance in which anyone has had the balls to defy us.

France invaded and conquered Mexico while we were busy with our little fracas from 1861-1865. However, once American attention was undivided, we threatened to declare war against France unless they backed off. They (wisely) decided not to mess with what was, at that point in time, by far the world's strongest military, and Mexico was soon after governed by Mexicans again.

The Spanish-American war began because we supported the Cuban rebellion and demanded that they be granted their independence. Spain waffled and prevaricated until our patience ran out and the Maine blew up; the combination of these factors resulted in a declaration of war, crushing victory, and, among other things, an independent Cuba.

I could go on, but America is hardly some evil totalitarian regime. We never have been.

[–]tupacsnoducket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, we just support "do it our way or the highway-ism."

[–]MuadD1b 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nazism is a false comparison, last time I checked the Jews weren't blowing themselves up in train stations during Hitler's rise to power. It's not that a majority of Muslims in Europe would participate in terrorist activities, but they don't call the cops when they see them. Compare this to the U.S. and our successful integrations of Muslim peoples, San Bernadino aside, most of would be Islamic terrorists are caught in the U.S. because people at the mosque or in their life report them. Europe has a huge integration problem, Muslims just don't buy in to their culture because they aren't forced to. In the US if you want to spend all your time reading the Koran and not working you're going to be homeless or in public housing and forced into a diverse community. The European welfare state on the other hand, seems fine with subsidizing these assholes.

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't comparing Jews to Muslims. I was saying that, while I don't believe it would happen, there would be sympathies in some circles towards creating essentially death camps for these people that have wrought havoc on Europe. If not now, imagine 20 years from now. You'd have a generation of pissed off young Europeans who are angry that Muslims are even there, and boom. Another Holocaust.

But do Muslims have it coming more than Jews? Hell ya. I don't support genocide at all, of course.

[–]IIRC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Germany is a simmering powder keg.

  • Migrants chase girls through shopping center, and confront police.

  • Sausages are banned in public to avoid offending the rapists.

It's only a matter of time.

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

LOL the poison has been injected they're done, son.

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think what happened is that the Cold War softened the East and West. Well, more so the West. We went from having strength in our philosophies, bringing each other to the brink of destruction, to thinking that we have to be soft in order for the world to have peace. Islam was like a 3rd party entering the game. To the West and East, giants of humanity, Islam was like a little kid kicking their shins. We ignored Islam, and it grew stronger. We need to find that strength in our culture without becoming what we've always hated.

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The tard took over.

[–]johnnygeeksheek -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sans the last eight years you mean.

[–]poseidonofteaAustrian Economics & Liberty -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

*last 100 years