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[–]wyllie 208ポイント209ポイント  (7子コメント)

hila said it best: It reminded me that Leafy is 20 years old and we're not

keep on keeping on guys.

[–]JonnyTango 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha exactly this. Reading all this drama makes me feel like I'm in school again.

[–]ThatAeroGuy 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol when he yelled out that ethan's head looked like his ballsack in the video it just further proved this

[–]shittymoderator 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been thinking this since I first heard of Leafy. Yup, a 20 year old would rip an autistic person apart then act like they couldn't tell that he had issues. Hopefully they've learned from this.

[–]ThundercuntIII 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why they're the parents of youtube.

[–]MalinwaFan94 164ポイント165ポイント  (2子コメント)

Papa bless, now back to Vape Nashion bro !

[–]Giddyfish 693ポイント694ポイント  (76子コメント)

Leafy's points were barely even valid. You made fun of a 14 year old's haircut which is completely changeable and he used that against you lol

[–]ThatAeroGuy 160ポイント161ポイント  (27子コメント)

Exactly what I thought when I saw that. He's using ONE video as an example to fit this narrative that Ethan is an asshole as much as he is.

Leafy has been consistently making fun of kids for a while now. The videos they're in are cringe videos as well. What's the point of making a video and just making fun of some kid in a CRINGE VIDEO? You aren't making worthwhile humour.

EDIT: To add on, when he isn't making fun of cringe kids, he's making fun of adults from cringe videos. Most of them seeming to also have mental disorders or other problems. For example, the socially awkward guy who asked out girls, the guy who went apeshit over MLP, MrBlackDarkness666, etc.

For a while, I used to watch cringe comps. Yeah, it was funny at first, but then it got redundant (like Leafy's content right now). Regardless, I've seen all of those guys in a cringe comp countless times. Everybody can make fun of these guys if they wanted to, but actually doing it is just being an asshole. It doesn't require you to be funny.

[–]NorrisOBE 45ポイント46ポイント  (21子コメント)

And amongst those kids are kids with special needs and disorders that require support and care.

Seeing him making fun of someone with autism makes me not want to support Leafy because I have two autistic brothers, and I love them A LOT. Autistic people are wonderful people who needs love and support. To see this 20 year old kid named Leafy making fun of an autistic person who has passion in something he does just breaks my heart.

[–]fasd23 20ポイント21ポイント  (19子コメント)

to be fair though, ethan has used autism as an insult multiple times in his videos. not as bad as straight up making fun of autistic people but still kinda not cool.

[–]NorrisOBE 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree.

As someone who has lived in parts of the world alongside my autistic brother, I can different between banter and an actual insult.

It's okay to say "Yeah, I have that autistic look" but when you continously insult an actual autistic person and tell him to kill himself that where's you cross the line.

[–]fasd23 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My personal take is this, if you call someone "mr. on-the-spectrum" for being awkward in a video, you are putting them down by comparing them to autistic people, so you're basically also saying that acting autistic is a bad thing, since it's a put-down. Like, of course there's banter, I'm not saying you shouldn't ever be able to joke about autism, but if you're just calling people who are not autistic autistic to put them down, is that really banter?

All that said though, I realize that this stuff is kinda subjective, and obviously ethan probably didn't even think about it that much, like he wasn't deliberately trying to ruin the day of anyone who's autistic or anything.

[–]adaglar98 41ポイント42ポイント  (12子コメント)

Anyways, Ethan should make another video. Not everyone follows his twitter or subreddit. It will be the nail of the coffin and you really should clearify all of this with a last video. No bullshit. No question marks. papa bless

Edit: I know that Leafy would make another response. What I meant is that he should take his time. Arguments do not work in a way which it can be dragged forever. If Ethan plays his cards right, the next video might be enough to reply to any video Leafy created/will create in the future.

[–]CasBuijs 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah man, people like Leafy would like this to continue forever

[–]-Leafious- 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

He should put a link to it at the end of an unrelated video. Making another video that will get 2.5+ million views is feeding into a shit culture on YT.

[–]fasd23 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

nah, fuck that. another video will elicit another response, and this shit will just keep dragging on, he did the right thing.

[–]ProvingWrong 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No he really shouldn't... Just leaving it alone is the smart play here

[–]adaglar98 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you red the youtube comments? Imbeciles who jump to conclusions without even researching the matter are unsubbing. No matter how idiotic they might be, they are valuable viewers which bring income to H3H3 and keep the channel going. If they restrain themselves from clearifying the situation, everyone will keep unsubbing day after day.

[–]Eyour 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is not to "win" this feud between Leafy and H3H3. Like Ethan says we know him best and what his intentions were, to add more fuel to the fire wouldnt be right. Considering the nature of Leafy's content and his fans a change would be unlikely. I think it was best that Ethan clear the air here with us after the Leafy response.

[–]Eiddy8 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're all fucking idiots jesus think about what you're doing, you're creating even more toxicity in the youtube community both of them screwed up more so leafy yes, but honestly you're all fucking idiots if you think making another video is gonna help.

[–]_Imperium_ 45ポイント46ポイント  (5子コメント)

the fact he made the same point about 10 times says it all really

[–]ChrisCrossX 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bad point. The guy Leafy made fun can just stop being autistic.

[–]ThundercuntIII 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, I had aspergers myself but I just faked it until I made it, am really sociable now.

I also have 16 jobs. Why, you ask?

[–]sarcasticsadist177 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

I thought he was kind of making fun of the person who wrote that thing about TimmyB's hair in the video rather than Timmy B himself. Like if the hair wasn't brought up in the video by the narrator I doubt Ethan would have even mentioned it or roasted him for it.

[–]xDish 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seriously, the narrator says, 'the clean-cut charm of a boy band front-man'. If that's not worth goofing, I don't know what is.

[–]slashemup 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Precisely... Listen to Ethan's comments. Most of them are a followup to the overzealous narrator.

Ex: "Timmy B put it all on the line"

Put what on the line? He's a kid who had to do nothing except have loaded parents.

It had crossed my mind that Ethan was hypocricitcal when he called out Leafy for it, but just analyze that video again in a similar fashion and you'll see similar results.

E: By "similar results" I'm referring to the absurdity of the comments by the narrator, not that Ethan is a hypocrite.

[–]xDish 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Timmy B video is more about the absurdity of the video in itself. It's like a faux-documentary about a kid who's been "in the game" for a whopping five months and whoever wrote the script wanted to make absolutely sure everyone knew TimmyB was a white kid. IT'S A NEW RACE WAR, AND TIMMYS THE WARRIOR.

[–]Fistipup 195ポイント196ポイント  (13子コメント)

[–]kingkongfjong 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

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[–]OrWalden2 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

AKA rip a sweet vape and wait for all this to blow over. Now can we please get back to talking about important things like the vape naesh .. nayshe.... nashe. First item on the agenda - how to spell vape nashe.

[–]1randomguy 305ポイント306ポイント  (53子コメント)

Ethan, this is the way I, and frankly any other logical person, sees it: you and Leafy were simply just venting to each other about work related shit.

Pyrocynical is a guy who blatantly rips off Leafy, and a lot of your humour/style. He uses misleading thumbnails and titles, and also happens to be breaking YouTube Terms of Service by using completely misleading tags in his videos to get more views. What happened to #MakeYoutubeGreatAgain? We give this dude a pass for his shitty conduct, but bash SoFlo and PrankInvasion for doing essentially the same things? Why? You and Leafy were just annoyed to see a guy like Pyro get so much success from such unoriginal content.

I'm glad Leafy leaked the full DMs, not only because it shows how little integrity he has, but because the content of the messages showed that in the end, you were/are the bigger man (no homo). Papa bless.

Edit: People are saying I'm redirecting the hate to Pyro. That's not true. Everything I said about Pyro is just a factual statement. I watch Pyro's videos, but that doesn't mean I can't recognise that it's unoriginal and the titles/thumbnails/tags are misleading. I am not passing judgment on Pyrocynical, I am stating facts about him to support my point.

[–]HydrofluoricAcid 66ポイント67ポイント  (6子コメント)

Leafy knows how full of bullshit he is, that's why he kept repeating the same argument multiple times, like damn, he talked about the cancer quote on loop at least three different times, and kept bringing up the "saint of youtube" statement so many times as if he hit comedy gold.

I hope more Youtubers stand up against Leafy. Kill that rat faced fucks channel.

[–]Freeza1 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

While I agree with most of what your saying, that last sentence is exactly the kind of thinking that got most of this shit started in the first place. Those kind of comments are the opposite of what we need.

[–]Sodomagor 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Funny, how you presented yourself on his subreddit as a fan of Pyro, yet i haven't seen you say one good thing about him and you keep repeating yourself like a broken vynyl. I agree with you, that the clickbait and misleading tags should stop, but i'm sure there is a better way to do it, than constantly posting about it on 2 subreddits. I, however, disagree that Pyro is ripping off Ethan's humour. Just because he makes fun of himself in his vids doesn't mean that he's ripping somebody off. That's like my friend saying i'm ripping off Chandler from Friends because we're both sarcastic and both our fathers are women now. And that he's ripping off Leafy? I'm sure you're familiar with term "Leafy clone". Lots of people are ripping him off, the only deifference is that Leafy is brutally unfunny in general, while Pryo manages to be highly entertaining. Not even mentioning the fact that Pyro actually tells his fans not to go to the channels he talks about and spread hate. I don't want this to sound like i'm just trying to bash you for your opinion that's basically right, i'm just trying to point out some facts and i hope you will take it that way. I wish you a good day and Papa Bless you.

[–]1randomguy 45ポイント46ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am a fan of Pyro. Is it seriously THIS difficult for people to understand that you can LIKE something and also be CRITICAL of it?? What good thing do you want me to say about Pyro? His videos are funny, I listen to them in the background while gaming or browsing the internet. I think he has a good commentating voice, it's much more nice to listen to than Leafy's. Want me to carry on??

I agree that Pyro is more entertaining than Leafy. But again, that doesn't mean Pyro's original. You can go back and see when Leafy started making the kind of commentary videos he makes now, and check when Pyro went from montage parody guy to "hey guys, pewdiepie here." Hint: Pyro came after Leafy.

Again, I understand that Leafy Clones are a meme, but Pyro using the fact that he's aware that he's a Leafy Clone doesn't make his content any more original.

If at the beginning of every video, SoFlo said "Hey, I'm only ironically stealing people's videos. Get it guys? I'm self-aware, it's just a joke lol" would that somehow mean he doesn't steal content? No. And in the same way it doesn't mean that Pyro isn't a copy of Leafy.

Also, this is one of the reasons why I sometimes hate reddit. You're not countering my points, you're trying to undermine what I'm saying by looking through my comment history and saying "well, you already said it once here!" Yeah, I did. Because it was relevant, And I'll say it again if it's relevant. And guess what? If people agree then they will upvote it, and if they disagree they will downvote it.

Edit: and for the record, I'm not constantly posting about it on 2 subreddits. I made ONE post about it on the Pyro subreddit, and I mentioned it ONCE on this subreddit. But yeah, mentioning the same subject on two different subreddits is completely out of order and is spam. /s

[–]eskaY0 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

you make a valid point, but your last sentence is right but it shouldnt be right.

Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.

this is how they were intended

[–]1randomguy 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, a lot of the time the upvote/downvote arrows are synonymous with agree/disagree. Especially on controversial topics like this.

But yeah, you're right.

[–]eskaY0 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah but thats the problem, this behavior leads to circlejerking and hiveminding, resulting in people not wanting to express their opinion because they are "scared" of getting downvoted.

[–]MajesticAP3X 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ethan, Leafy and Pyro just need to just sit down and have a private conversation. I like all three YouTubers and it just feels wrong seeing all three duke it out against each other. Yes, Leafy's videos have recently become more and more "cancerous" but sometimes quite funny and enjoyable to watch. Some of Pyro's content is derived from Leafy's and h3h3's but it's not just a copy-paste job, he puts time and effort into making it into something new. Ethan should have definitely messaged Leafy before making the "Rant" video and have come to some compromise but I understand why he felt like it was the right thing to do at the time and if I was in his position, I would've done the same. Leafy was just flat-out bullying a smaller YouTuber and Ethan stood up for him. However, Leafy had already recognized that he went too far and had taken down the video before Ethan released his. The "Leafy Rant" just inflamed the whole scenario

The more public everything gets, the worse everything will conclude.

[–]Blindfazeman 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

it's like saying that leafy is a luna clone.Or that the big bang theory is a seinfeld clone just because they are both sitcoms. It's just a genre of videos. "Wow, Pewdiepie played happy wheels first, that means you're copying Pewdiepie."

[–]MrDoradus 75ポイント76ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ad hominems are incredibly effective with people who don't "think too much" about general and underlying issues, people acting on their feelings (mostly hate and dislike) alone. From my glimpse into his (Leafy's) Youtube channel and his fanbase, those are exactly the kind of people he's mostly catering to. Add on top of that the pack mentality and it's clear why his audience seems to be convinced by his reasoning in this video.

So while such a bad response getting such a good reception might seem disheartening to any outsider it's nothing but expected. He probably could have just spouted gooba gobba and still receive support from his fans who just need a direction sign for an outlet for their hate.

As to other people (mainly h3h3 fanbase), I doubt they were as convinced, if even at all, by any of his arguments if that's any consolation to you.

[–]lewislewis70 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

This sums up everything for me. Leafy has no real points to call out Ethan on, yet his fanbase believe he 'roasted' Ethan and 'ended his career'.

The problem is that, Ethan's fanbase are more mature and can have a real argument with proof and such, whereas Leafy's fanbase are too young and just tell people to 'kys'.

We're trying to argue with children here, it's just not going to work haha.

[–]EeLitaret 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is so true I think. His channel and his subscribers all seem like children making fun of the stupidest things. Also, there's no 'show' really. It's more of an audio podcast he makes, which is even less impressive. Ethan and Hilas production quality is significantly better and obviously they have way more integrity for their community and YouTube in general.

[–]GoldenDiamonds 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but the cs surfing is top quality gameplay /s

[–]jfloydian 131ポイント132ポイント  (7子コメント)

This is it guys. It's the end. I don't care how far anyone takes it anymore. Ethan is being honest. Yah, maybe he could have spoke to that leaf person (did he go green?), in private expressing his concern instead of only putting out a video, but who fucking cares? The asshole should have been told to stop a long time ago.

It's over, to me. It's time to get back to the romps. It's time to back off and let this all blow over.

Bless up.

[–]Feqzz 138ポイント139ポイント  (15子コメント)

Wow. Leafy is truly the cancer of Youtube.

[–]AnnaMayumi13 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I second that.

This whole situation just goes to show how immature that little cunt is and he's 20 for goodness sakes, crying his problems out on his 12 year old army. Like, does he not have any other friends to vent his shit to?

[–]wizeuo 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yep, Just look what his army of 12 year old kids are doing in h3 videos. And yes, It's entirely his fault that his fanbase is like that.

[–]Ormais 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for taking a well approached stand to this Ethan. This whole drama situation is pretty tiring, and I hate to see it involve you. Keep doing what you do, papa bless.

[–]OfficialDaBlaze 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

Leafy was scrambling to find any kind of dirt to throw at you, and all he found was de_Dust .

I'll go kill myself now <3

[–]Contourr 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh man , 👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shit go౦ԁ sHit👌 💯/ 💯 , papa bless

[–]DazzaWright96 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can't lie. This whole thing is childish as fuck.

[–]StarBat57 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I won't lie, this is definitely me when I stop giving a fuck about youtube politics.

[–]sarcasticsadist177 52ポイント53ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pyrocynical 2 days ago - "stop herd mentality guys :(" Pyrocynical a few hours ago - features in Leafy's video directly attacking Ethan and thus rallying the herd.

[–]Lukethehedgehog 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That wasn't Pyro though. Leafy just took an excerpt from his video.

[–]Giddyfish 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

I know you don't like adding to the drama which is why you post here instead of Youtube but Leafy is making you lose subs with his videos, he probably just wanted to stop losing subscribers hence why he didn't post on his subreddit like you did

[–]KerotanSam 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Papa's in no danger of losing subs. plus I doubt he gives a shit about losing teh subz

[–]AnnaMayumi13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just think that goes to show how much Ethan cares about his fans in a greater way without wanting to stir anymore unnecessary drama. Leafy on the other hand, received some major ass blasting and is now super butthurt about it. Honestly, if Ethan is loosing subs over it, it takes out the 12 year olds.

[–]MattFiler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you watch the feed on SocialBlade although they are loosing subs, they are actually gaining them faster. In a few days when Leafy's fans have forgotten about this it will probably go back to normal.

[–]SeQuest 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They only lost like 4-5k or so, pretty negligible, Ethan can get 100k just by making Green propaganda again.

[–]cognitiv3 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

[–]Rampantlion513 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

Basically everyone who has a working brain knows who is in the right here

It's only Leafy's 12 year old minion followers who act like they're brainwashed and can only like leafy no matter what who think papa is a bad person. Everyone cents to people. Hell, I even vent about my friends sometimes.

[–]Jacksonfelblade 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, except the fact that the H3H3 fanbase has also mimicked the leafy fanbase in just a small way via dislikes and leaving toxic comments, like any healthy youtuber's fanbase.

[–]Allard1994 56ポイント57ポイント  (6子コメント)

I will support you no matter what Papa.

Edit: I think the best way to describe H3H3 is ironic humor. Pyro is sarcastic humor, Leafy is cynic humor.

[–]LordCranium 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

So kinda like Chaotic Good, Chaotic Neutral and Chaotic Evil?

[–]Allard1994 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the many ways to describe it

[–]bolt892 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

What's the difference?

[–]TheJopman 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

I actually feel bad for Pyrocynical now. Yeah, his content isn't that original, but that's some fucked up shit you and Leafy are talking about in those DM's. I know these were meant to be private, but I can't imagine that Pyro's feeling good right now with being this insulted.

[–]notmorezombies 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently they've made up now. The relevant DMs are in Leafy's video, but it shows Ethan pretty recently praising how much Pyro's content has improved. Now, you can take Leafy's view and say this is proof of Ethan sucking-up to whoever suits him best, but for channels that upload daily, a month or two (when the DMs with Leafy are from) is a long time. As such, it's not impossible that Ethan saw the decline of Leafy and an improvement in quality from Pyro and his opinions of each have changed accordingly.

Or he's a two-faced, manipulative, backstabbing bastard. Take your pick.

[–]LoLEcho 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't like how even when you said nice things to both him and Pyro, he still read them out to make you sound like an asshole... You can't win with this guy

[–]OHSB 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Ethan only did it for the money!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUJK3uY5cv8&ab_channel=EthanandHila
Literally tells his fans to use their donations for something they need instead.
That type of cynical thinking is such crap.

[–]JessWK 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm really glad you didn't stoop to his level and make a video. Appreciate ya, Ethan (and Hila).

[–]bLackieJESUS 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for clearing things up Papa. Leafy is just trying to stir things up and baiting people to the point that people are making video's on eachother.

But remember, the real winner here is ya boy Keem, racking up that clickbait title drama money 👌

[–]FuckYourAgenda 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only people unsubbing from you right now are people who don't think so very good. We love ya, Ethan. Papa bless.

[–]Crooksie 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

Can someone give me clarity on just one part?

I removed it because we settled it in DM, [Pyrocynical] immediately takes my apology, turns it against me, and uses the deleted as evidence that I'm hiding something.

Where did Pyro use the deleted tweet as evidence of hiding anything? I know Leafy used the tweet against Ethan, but Pyro didn't comment on it at all, at least not publicly.

Frankly, I think Pyro is really the only one who's come away clean here. I honestly think Ethan read into Pyro's video far more than he should have, considering that Pyro never said Ethan messaged him directly, and the whole "10 other Youtubers" thing came from Leafy, who Pyro had no reason to distrust at some point. All that Pyro's had done is that he now gets to see how someone he thought was his friend and someone he looks up to actually feel about him.

I dunno, man. But I really don't get why Ethan's still going after Pyro and saying he's spreading lies at this point. Seems that his claim of Ethan trying to get videos made about Pyro was due to misinformation from Leafy, not coming from a place of malice or anything like that.

[–]EddieTheHead1 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

He was referring to Leafy, not Pyro.

[–]Crooksie 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

The way the sentence is written, it 100% refers to Pyro. When Ethan says "we settled it in DM", he means himself and Pyro. Then he says that "he immediately takes my apology, turns it against me..." so at this point, he's still talking about Pyro. I think he got some shit mixed up there.

[–]semir321 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

no, hes talking about leafy, watch his video

[–]Crooksie 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, then Ethan worded that terribly, because as-written, he is still talking about Pyro. Like, grammatically. That's all I was saying.

[–]OHSB 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he got them confused there, leafy used the tweet against him, however Pyro did send leafy ethan's private DMs/apology. Leafy also claimed that pyro knew about the entire conversation but still chose to misrepresent ethan.

[–]toomanynamesaretook 44ポイント45ポイント  (11子コメント)

I don't even know how I ended up in this completely foreign fucking world of Youtube drama and frankly I have no fucking idea why anyone gives a shit.

All that said, as a casual fan Ethan, what the fuck are you doing muddying yourself rolling around in all of this shit? You've just sullied yourself and it all comes across as extremely hypocritical.

[–]scientificsalarian 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

What exactly is so hypocritical here? Ethan made a video expressing his opinion on shitty Youtube content and gets backlash from people who make this bad content. He ofc wants to make things straight to anybody invested enough to follow him on Twitter/here and people that aren't doing that probably don't know much about the aftermath cos they're not 15-20 y/os.

Ethan wanted to address a shitty thing in his community publicly and I believe he did the right thing, the drama will blow over and we're back to goofs and gaffs. Don't think he sullied anything, expect Leafy's reputation who himself did pretty good number at it too.

[–]zersch 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I too am a stranger in a strange land, rather new to the h3h3 channel.

No idea who the other two people were before this and it's rather exhausting.

[–]Onpu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He explained in this OP why he did a post instead of a video. He doesn't want to extend the drama but wanted to put a stop to rumours and get this all over with. It's goofs, gaffes and laffs from hereon out.

[–]kniekanker 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

The most annoying thing is the Leafy fans being like: "Got 'eeem!". How is it his fans don't see that Leafy's arguments against you aren't even valid points at all? In fact his childish attack makes Leafy look even worse, he just played himself. Although his 12 year old fanbase is too blind and retarded to see this. I just hope this drama will soon be over. Just don't expect the HISSSS and kys comments to stop anytime soon.

Just keep on goofin' and gaffin' and everything will be fine. I love ya and I appreciate ya, Papa bless.

[–]Acedualblade 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

What really pisses me off is how leafy is trying to make himself look victimized. He can't fucking accept responsibility for being a piece of shit so he cries out "but everyone else who is saying I'm a piece of shit is a piece of shit themselves! Like that makes everything I do less shitty somehow!!" And all of his arguments are so clearly cherry picked and easy for the lowest common denominator who doesn't actually read the shit in the messages, (or worse yet, doesn't understand what's actually being said in the messages) to grasp at. All he did by leaking the DM's is show how he's a conspiring little child who thinks he's the first person to talk about shit while playing a game in the background "he's ripping me off!!!1!1!one!!1" I think the worst part of youtube is no matter how big of a piece of shit you are, people will still forgive you and sing your praises like a big old group of battered wives with Stockholm syndrome. "We forgive you Sam Pepper even though you're a sex offender who had no sense of nuance and exploited people's desire to see the morbid" "Leafy autistic bullying squad hissss" "DSP for best LP channel who constantly insults his own fanbase #SFVRefund"

TL:DR I don't understand how anyone can defend leafy like he's a victim, when really he's finally getting a taste of his own medicine, by being harassed for being a piece of shit, when he's mostly responsible for his fanbase harassing others.

[–]KerotanSam 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

dude makes a living shit talking but cries like a bitch when someone shit talks him. oh leafy...

[–]MrTownberg 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well said :) It's nice to see that you really are that awesome person I have always thought you were.

Keep up the amazing work :) Papa bless

[–]Ninami 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who fucking cares... You guys have too much time on your hands giving a single fuck about youtubers and their "drama".

[–]Vinnco- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have to say, I had Ethan seen as a person who is more down to earth, cool-headed and respectful of others than what those chat logs show. He said he stopped giving a fuck to change his life, which I truly respect and relate with. However, this drama and the chat messages seem to show otherwise. I understand that you have someone you dislike, everyone does, but there is no need to write about it in a way a child would, even in a private conversation.  

 

If you truly don't give a fuck, you should have left it be or at least solve it with Leafy or Pyro in private, especially after knowing they have potential chat logs to use against you. Approaching them as a friend with respect is so much more efficient, and better for both sides.  

 

I just wish you will think back to the beginning days of your channel and how you were back then, you were more free and didn't care about other channels antics. I miss you just doing your thing with reactions to odd videos, lube up time, Tommy Two-Tone, etc. and not care about anything else. Your new Vape Nation video is one of my new favorites because it reminds me of your old style. Just be a comedian like you said you would, and leave all this drama alone.

[–]iNinjaFish 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

This has to be the biggest bout of drama this community has seen(gotta be.) However, it comes with the territory. I think Ethan did the right thing by standing by his principles and content. Most people would of backed off and or deleted their video.

Even after all messages formerly known as private were released, I saw a lot of people demand an apology or say they were disappointed. WE ALL talk about people behind thier back , we vent or whatever.

Maybe all this drama can be over soon and we can all get a pizza pie with extra goofs and a sodie pop. Papa bless!

[–]lolzlz 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Keemstar can go eat a dick, constantly trying to fan the flames and make shit worse for his own personal gain. You can bet that he's gonna make a fucking video about this post just because this drama is popular right now.

[–]RockoRocks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely agree with this. Aside from the fact that Keemstar is a huge racist and hypocrite and infamously falsely accuses people of being pedophiles, he actively feeds drama on YouTube. Drama is a huge problem on YouTube imo, it has especially been so the latest years. And people like Keemstar are only making this problem worse, by basically commodifying "drama" as an entertainment product. Can't we just have peace on YouTube?

[–]P_Routalempi 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

we will not make a video response to Leafy.

This is honestly the only thing I needed to hear. I'm glad to see you are still being reasonable about all this nonsense.

Papa bless. Looking forward to your next video!

[–]appl3xx 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Papa bless.

[–]Jacob_The_Hun 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

We know you're in the right. Keep up the goofs and the gaffs and don't give Leafy any attention, he certainly doesn't deserve it.

[–]OutsanityDotCom 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know about anyone else but, I'd say this case is closed. So, let's all celebrate at Papa John's and get drunk on a few sodie pops on the rocks.

[–]SilentFatGuy1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes Ethan, I love you no homo

[–]redditiscancer4u 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

heres a video of leafy making fun of ANOTHER autistic person by the name of Devon Sweeney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpaWvOE5U4c cant believe this shit went over everyone's heads

[–]keyboardromeo88 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

LEAFYDRAMA KISSING PRANKS 2016 (GONE SEXUAL)

There aren't any winners/loser in internet drama but honestly you've come across as the bigger man here. He had two points against you, both were easily dismissed with context provided. Keep doing you.

[–]Halfmorrow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

well articulated logical piece that adressed all the 'points' that leafy and others made.

Best way to get it done. All this drama is nonsensical, I hope this'll end it.

[–]AZswampy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You not posting a video bashing Leafy and defaming him like he did to you just proves once and for all who is the bigger man. Papa bless.

[–]SvergiesKonung 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm genuinely surprised by the amount of people who think H3 are at fault/equally at fault for this whole thing.

[–]ButtSpaghetti 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know you guys get paid doing these videos, so there is a certain competititiveness, which may drive rivalry and all that. But I still must say, internet drama is so retarded.

[–]chuckpig98 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks Papa. Everyone has a private life and yours shouldn't interfere with your image.

[–]Banerman 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ethan doing it one post at a time #MAKEYOUTUBEGREATAGAIN

[–]TitaniumTrial 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny how he doesn't really go into detail on how it was him that reached out to you, to help make a video on Pyro.

[–]ShutenDoji 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

all of you shut the fuck up and support vape nation

[–]Suchnameverywow 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Papa bless, great moves Ethan keep it up, proud of you.

[–]offspringftw 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

They showed my private messages, my apologies, they colluded against me.. And what was their conclusion? That I'm an asshole? That I said mean things about someone I didn't like in a private conversation? So what?

This is the funniest part from this whole situation. Leafy's entire formula is based around making fun of and bullying mostly vulnerable people. Pyrocynical's entire formula is based around copying Leafy's formula. And the worst culprit, Ethan, talked bad about someone in a private conversation. The horrors!

[–]Inspired_Kid 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stay awesome, dude

Thank you to you and Hila for existing, you guys are really great people.

[–]AleksaCol 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Leafy telling you about the 14 yo guys hair is complete bullshit, leafy bullies everyone in his vid while even when you made fun of dj khaled you also made fun of yourself a lot, that's why I always liked your videos more you can take a joke on yourself! papa bless

[–]DJ_Khaled_Best 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I changed... a lot.

[–]AleksaCol 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know you did bby, there's no more fupa now you're pure muscles

[–]Vanguardians_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

love you guys

[–]handsomecute 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I was right..? Pyro stepped into the drama without wanting to be manipulative but accidentally 'manipulated' his community by posting the out of context Ethan hatepost that was LEAKED TO HIM BY LEAFY. Mostly on purpose. Leafy is the one blatantly fucking up now, he wanted to use Pyro as a victim of H3's bullying to convince his crowd without Pyro knowing the whole situation behind this This is the ultimate proof that Ethan fucked up a bit in terms of publicly stirring drama, but is admitted he fucked up and is sorry, meanwhile Leafy keeps spilling shit on Ethan and manipulating peeps to stay on his side, meanwhile Pyro now should feel kinda betrayed by both, tho probably forgives Ethan (we need to see about this one, Pyro said he's making a 20 min response vid).

I stand with Pyro and H3 for now, Leafy's manipulative plan failed.

I find Pyro a lot funnier than Leafy, Pyro has wittier jokes and kind of more entertaining (ridiculous to the point that it's definitely bait) clickbait thumbnails and is less about offending someone and promotes obscure channels. I hope he teams up with H3 or stays independent in terms of this drama

[–]TheConorwalsh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leafy and Pyro just got their asses blasted. Papa Bless. Couple of sodie pops. Peace out. Drama over.

[–]tdtbaa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

bless right up my man. keep it up

[–]palkian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes papa bradberry yes

[–]midgetman7782 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never lost faith in you Ethan, there were too many censored messages to make his inbox release trustworthy. Glad I was right in trusting you, Papa bless!

[–]ChibiShibe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The take away from the entire conversation arch is that

"Everyone is angry in the moment"

This is something my boyfriend told me. This has stuck me to me through argument after argument of petty pointless things. A better question to ask one's self is that "How many times have you been fuming, pissed off, enraged, and just plain angry at a person... Then, Fast forward to where you are today. Is that anger still the same?". Most of the time that is a resounding no. I've vented to a friend before as I'm sure countless others have. We say things in the moment that we honestly don't mean months or years later.

Papa bless

[–]OhhCooperrr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just feel that there was no need for Leafy to make the video. You and Pyro had fixed things leafy was gaining subs again, everything went quite for a few days and then leafy brings out his "side of the drama".

I don't really hate anyone in this drama but leafy took it one step to far.

[–]Murcis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

papa bless.

[–]HeyItsMezz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

holy shit i just feel bad for pyro at this point

leafy is trying to use him as leverage to slander you and it turns out two of his acquaintances were shitting on him in private

i kinda just feel bad for him, all drama put aside ):

[–]Nekibata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bad moves leafy, do not keep it up!

[–]FaithLV 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The funniest thing is, that Leafy is not talking about the actual problem here, but tries to fuel some drama.

Leafy just deleted the video and mentioned that only for 3 seconds in his rant video.

I think that pretty much shows what Leafy really cares about.

Drama = more views.

[–]BobTheLawyer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The one thing I don't see you addressing is you switching sides. How did Leafy's content change, and why did you go from loving it to hating it? I've been watching Leafy for awhile now, and I guess you could say he attacks more kids now, but not much has changed.

Also, in regards to who he's attacked. He's honestly closer to the age of a kid than he is to H3H3. 95% of the "kids" Ethan pointed out were at least 19 or had a huge fanbase and have gotten in fights with youtubers before (there is one girl who sand a really cringey song at a pool who doesn't fit into ither of those). As for JoeysWorldTour, it has been pointed out that he has been purposely making his content worse to attract haters.

As for knowing boundaries, in general, Leafy has proven that he can't tell when people might have mental disorders. Some dude hit himself with a bottle, and Leafy seemed pretty sure he didn't have "autism".

Now I don't think Leafy is right in all of these, but what exactly triggered you about Leafy? As far as I've seen, he hasn't changed all that much.

Also, at what did Pyro's stuff change your mind? You said he's great now, but why exactly now?

[–]bernieboy420 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

dear h3h3: you are an honest artist.

[–]vilica993 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I found ridiculous was how Leafy posted the entirety of your DMs out of chronological order, and a large portion of what you guys talked about was completely unrelated. So basically you have to read through a lot of bullshit and put the pieces together yourself to get to the relevant messages. Lets be real, the attention span of a majority of his audience probably won't last long enough for them to get to what's important, so they just take what Leafy says for granted. And I'm willing to say Leafy did that on purpose. If you actually read through everything you see that Leafy actually exposes himself more than Ethan, imo. Honestly before going through DMs I was a little worried that I would lose respect for Ethan but whatever respect I had for Leafy was completely diminished, if I even had any in the first place.

[–]Bombingofdresden 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When your subscription count starts dropping you panic. That's all Leafy's response is about.

[–]tothearkham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unlike both leafy and pyro, you provide legitimate evidence from the DMs as to why you are in the right here. Papa bless.

[–]XxLokixX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leafy is like a popular highschool kid blowing small dramas way out of proportion to pick on other people.

[–]Bananathugg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leafy's shit argument and blatant personal attacks aside, I think he only made that video to stir drama. Hes friends with Keemstar. He knows that any drama he makes will land him on Keemstar and help both of their channels get those drama views. He also knows Keemstar will help slant things in his favor so he comes out on top and doesnt see a negative effective from the drama.

[–]Draconic_Features 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I enjoy Leafy's content, I enjoy Pyrocynical's content, and I enjoy H3H3's content; just my style of humour I guess, I appreciate hyperbole, sarcasm and irony. It's laughable how the fanbases churn out so much hatred - Leafy's much more than Ethan's - but still I thought folks around here were the chill fans, who just liked to share some goofs and have a right old romp. People are throwing 'cancer' and such at Leafy, but this whole fiasco is the cancer in my opinion. Nothing's really going to come of this, except more hate. I know Ethan needed to defend himself, but now that he has, are we done with this? Can we get back to the goofs?

[–]Ragerodracir 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still think you shouldn't have made "the Leafy rant". It came out of nowhere (not like the SoFlo rant) and started this whole thing. If you would've simply told Leafy what is wrong in a private conversation, there would be no drama, no defending yourself, no nothing. I hope you are smarter for it now.

[–]OZILgunner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leafy at least has the naivete of youth going for him, Ethan certainly does not. Both should know better than to partake in such childish school ground quarrels. I reckon h3's fanbase is more mature in terms of age, and the channel will suffer more (rightfully so), whereas leafy's fanbase will rally behind him and might get a bit of growth as a result of this. Everything about this is pathetic including this response. The longer this whole incident rages on, the longer the commentary format and h3's reputation will be dragged through the dirt. Plus lets face it, who the hell wants to line Keemstar's pockets any further?! It needs to stop.

[–]dr_pibby 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ethan I don't know what your inbox or YouTube comments look like right now, but I want you to know that the only people who will send you hate will be children and ignorant ferverent haters who hate 'cause they wanna hate. No logical person would ever think you're a hateful person just because you're being human off camera.

Smoke dank weed and papa bless.

[–]riversofgore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty tired of this childish drama.

[–]Girtisholland 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would help if 80% of Leafy's fans weren't 12 year old kids who can't think for themselves. I cant wait for a new platform to enjoy videos because YT is pure cancer now. Unsub parties, trolls, tools, feminists, prepubescent gamer boys, and on and on. It hurts my brain.

[–]Flyabye 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im still #TeamPyro. On his team since 2012 (or 13) :]

[–]MizzouTiger23 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why couldn't you solve this with leafy behind the scenes instead of making a scene about it if you and him were friends ?

[–]jadarisphone 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could anyone ELI5 what settings to change to stop fucking youtuber drama from showing up on the front page every day

[–]YoloKraize 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you all 3 did stupid shit, and fucked up. There is no other way to put it.

But could we for the love of god not just fucking get over it by now, this "YOUTUBE DRAMA ALERT" is literally turning into Radio Kappa...

All 3 of you made mistakes, some more then others. Leafy made his apology video and that's it.

[–]chronikfunk 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Who cares? Just keep making me laugh you funny chubby dude with a fro.

[–]puffykilled2pac 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

I love h3h3 but I honestly felt like he came off a little hypocritical in that video. Look, Ethan clowns people on YouTube. He does it with less cynicism than most, but it is what it is. If he didn't like what Leafy was doing he could have pointed it out, but acting like a moral authority came off a bit disingenuous when the meat of both their channels are essentially the same thing. You can frame it however you want but really we're all looking at something that's weird or different and laughing at it. I don't have an issue with that. If you do have an issue with that you shouldn't be working in this style of comedy, or probably comedy in general.

[–]notmorezombies 39ポイント40ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah dude, remember the time h3h3 roasted an autistic guy so hard his fans sent him death threats and may the guy cry? Good times.

Oh wait...

[–]NickGraves 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly this, I understand that Ethan sounded hypocritical when he said what he said. But when Ethan makes fun of someone, he's making fun of them. They become memes and inside jokes.

When someone like leafy comes out and makes "jokes" he sends angry mobs. Leafy attacks people, Ethan doesn't. I feel like no matter how hard it is to make an argument about something that can look so similar on both sides, we have to look at the end results to see how different they are. Papa bless.

[–]hamoorftw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry but I really really don't understand how people say h3h3 and leafy basically do the same thing. It's like this finebros mentality where "it both reaction videos so they are basically the same I'm I r8 guys??"

No. There is a difference in the way both approach their videos. I mean seriously, just take a look at the people h3h3 made fun of the past (rightfully or not): gamer gunk dude, soflo, the good looking loser, John saakers and others. How was their respond to Ethan in the end about his videos? Not bad! All ended on seemingly good note, and it didn't went too far. He even didn't go apeshit (and rightfully so) over soflo stupid accusations or good looking loser saying he want to fuck his wife, I'm not saying it is wrong to reply to those hateful comments, and personally the good looking loser thing just shows a HUGE difference in maturity and mentality between Ethan and a kid like leafy. I mean imagine if someone responds the same thing good looking loser said to leafy about his girlfriend, what his response will be? I doubt he'll let it slide like Ethan did and I don't blame anyone in this situation who does that because those were pretty shitty things to say, but in the end, Ethan didn't look for more "drama" or vitriol, he just wanted to end it on a good note

Same with the soflo thing, many h3h3 fans were upset that Ethan decided to take the forgive and forget approach after the last soflo responses, and again rightfully so! But it shows how level minded Ethan is, if he was truly a two faced asshole who only care about more drama for more views he would've dragged that shit between him and soflo/good looking loser to the ground.

So how in the HELL both are basically the same? Please! I don't remember Ethan encouraging people (even the act of not discouraging is enough to send rapid fans the wrong way, on MANY occasions he always said don't take it too seriously and leave hateful comments and such, he even sometimes say go subscribe and watch more of those people videos if you want like fucked up dentists and the vegan dude)

I don't need secret DMs or #EXPOSED videos to know there is a huge difference in mentality between both, their track records alone speak volumes about them, and Ethan was never the dude who tried to rail people on a certain someone, and when he did it was short and he tried to end it on a good note like with soflo.

[–]Hyooga 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fam, there's a big difference between making fun of fake pranksters who swear their pranks are real, companies who think gamers are retarded by nature, shitty people in general and consistently making fun of little kids being kids.

Regardless of that, at least Ethan and Hila make their own sketches, leafy and pyro just throw in gameplay that is completely unrelated to their video just so they don't have to put in the effort of filming something and editing it.

I understand how their channel might come off as similiar, as they both make fun of people, but the targets are important.

SoFlo? GamerAir? Pretentious Feeding the homeless videos? Fair targets.

Autistic Fedoraman with 10k views, little kids? Not so fair.

The reason Ethan has taken issue with Leafy now rather than before is that Leafy's targets changed, just look at his channel. I for one enjoyed some of his stuff, like that video where he was talking about the creepy guy in his Skype group, but now it's completely different, because he ran out of things to talk about.

Honestly, Leafy is desperate enough to suddenly side with Pyro, who literally had the "leafyishere" tags in his videos, because they both know that they will take a big hit if Ethan comes out on top of this, they're trying to cut their losses.

[–]Potatomesh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's easy to paint it like it's that black and white, but when in reality, it really isn't. Yes, he was hypocritical, he admitted it in the video, but indulging in hypocrisy doesn't always equal being in the wrong. Not sure why it's become such a fad in the past few years to use the whole "black and white" argument, but I really can't agree with most people who use it. Essentially it's somewhat the same as saying that you can categorize all Muslims to be the same, "You are all worshiping the same god, teaching and beliefs therefore have no right to judge Isis". Excuse the extreme example, but points get across faster when using them. Yes, you are right that they both just essentially are people making fun of other people, but when do you draw the line on who and how it's done? That's the reason why Ethan made this video. I've watched both Leafy and Ethan's vids before this and I can honestly say I didn't really agree on how Leafy does his comedy, it's pretty much just bullying as Ethan said. To add I've watched a lot of his videos because a friend of mine really likes him and puts him on all the time. When Ethan said "We have been giving these guys a pass" really struck me, because I really didn't agree with how Leafy and all these other youtubers who blatantly just shamed whoever they were talking about, but instead of doing anything about it, I really just turn my head and say it's not for me. Maybe I'm sounding like a H3H3 fanboy, because in reality I am, but when drama like this happen, I try to keep an open mind and I see a lot more problem in the Leafy party than I do in the Ethan party.

[–]BestSingedHawai 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly ethan im really dissapointed in you. I thought you were different and smarter than other youtubers. This is even worse than what soflo was doing. Im disgusted to call myself a fan and subscriber of your channel. I have been a fan for the longest time but this showed me what kind of human you really are. Your videos may be funny but as a person you completely lost me. PLEASE STOP USING GYAZO it loads like shit on mobile. Use sharex its awesome. Also fuck leafy. Papa bless.

[–]AntProtein 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't keep the Vape Nation down, let's all chub and tuck our way to success and move the heck on from this! Papa bless!

[–]jazinit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

From reviewing all this drama I've come to the conclusion that everyone ought to go green #vapenation

[–]Nuxxe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Papa bless <3 Thanks for clearing things up

[–]MelmisterDave 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

(1) He pretty much said 'I told him 10 youtubers mentioned the title', not that he talked to ten youtubers, it was a bluff to see what pyro would say.

(2) What point would there be to warn him? Really? Maybe to fix the issue from the inside without causing shit to stir and.... Oops I just realised, that wouldn't make you any money would it. You even uploaded the leafy exposing video to your main channel to get as many people as possible to jump on the bandwagon, bash him, and get you that lovely lovely Adsense.

(3) You've made fun of MattyB, Allison Gold, both of which already get way more hate than Jacob satorius and the other vine kid which get millions of fan girls boosting their ego. They're not fragile cupcakes.

(4) Joey's World Tour is a grown man, he can handle it about as much as any other sociopath you cover in your videos.

(5) I love your content but being a fake friend or even acquaintance is my least favourite trait in people. Hila said in a tweet that this mess reminds her that leafy is 20 and you guys aren't but your behaviour in these dms is not very different from a teenager's, I've seen this kind of behaviour in my 18 year old friend group all the time and I hate it.

He's an asshole for going as far as he did on a poor autistic guy, but I honestly hate it more that you have jumped on this chance. I had an unimaginably high opinion of you before this incident and its fallen dramatically. He's clearly personally hurt, he didn't want to say it in his video because he's not comfortable to show it but I really think he thought of you as a good friend and seeing you pounce on him like that without warning made him want to lash out.

You're not gonna lose more than 5000 subs from this so it doesn't matter in the long run, but you've lost the respect I had for you as a long time fan (which I guessing has no value so who cares).

[–]Scottcat 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think as right as you might be, the entire thing should of been avoided because this has only brought negativity and fueled keemstars antics. People are allowed to dislike one another, sad that it all got publicly aired. You may of been right to make the video, but it'd probably be best to think 'is it worth it' next time.

[–]OHSB 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I did what I felt was right, I stand by our Leafy video, and I don't regret making it, even after they took it further than I ever feared they would.

He did man.

[–]pokemackster 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Guys who gives a fuck, if you like there content fine, if you dont fine. i personally dont find every h3h3 video amazing but i still like their content, sure he was a "asshole" but so am i, i fuck up a lot also, i fuck up all the time. but ethan and hila still make some very funny videos, and that is the whole point of youtube.

Sure pyro makes "cancerous videos" but so does h3h3, so does leafy, so does PEWDIEPIE so does NIGAHIGA. EVeryone does! some videos are good for you some are not, it is just the way with movies and games also. so just respect all parties (being leafy, pyro and h3h3) for the content you actually like, and just let this shit go. WE ALL FUCK UP HERE AND THERE and if you say you dont you just fucked up as you are lieing. peace out.

[–]bigchest 6ポイント7ポイント  (18子コメント)

I always liked you videos but obviously there's another side to you. I've read the post and you're grasping at straws. It was really fake of you to try and take the moral high ground and you seem to be grasping at straws. RIP my Karma but that's how I feel.

[–]TBWolf 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

Coming from a complete outsider, I don't really see that in this post. If you're pretending there's a huge deal out of making rude comments about someone in private, that's pretentious as fuck.

H3H3 is defending himself against accusations that are coming from complete hypocrites who publicized a private conversation to cause drama. I guarantee, every single one of us have made rude comments about or to somebody before, don't even try to lie and say you haven't.

This whole thing is a bit dumb that he's getting flack for it.

[–]v00d00_ 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ethan did nothing amoral. He talked shit about a guy he and Leafy mutually disliked in a PRIVATE CONVERSATION. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and if you can't comprehend that you probably fit Leafy's target audience pretty damn well.

[–]Mayatrix 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In all honesty Ethan you both goofed up, you could have easily told Leafy in private that you don't agree with what he's doing and should change. If that's really what you wanted to accomplish.. but I don't think that's the reason you made the video. As you have said yourself on your second channel, it's hard to keep finding videos and subjects every week for the main channel, and honestly this just seemed like a quick way to make an extra buck, because there wasn't much interesting going on this week anyway. I'm pretty sure you knew the video would stir up drama and that Leafy wouldn't take the defamation for granted, his response was to be expected. I honestly do believe that you love the community and Youtube, there is a lot of effort put into all of your videos and most of them are genuinely funny, but you could have handled this a lot better, there was no need for this drama at all.

On the other hand Leafy's videos are for the most part low effort clickbait, which he probably gets by literally typing "cringe", "kid" etc. into the Youtube search bar and then thinking about what he can say about them for an hour and make it seem like he is genuinely mad about them. Because honestly who the fuck cares about some kids on Youtube who get a million views or something.

On a completely unrelated note, it's sad to see what a toxic bussiness Youtube has become both behind and on the scenes. What happened to people just creating good content for there fans, instead of whipping out a mediocore video every week/day to make some quick money. The only goal now seems to make as much money as possible, not to make genuinely good content

Ah well.. I hope you learn from this experience Ethan. Papa bless

TL;DR The Hydraulic Press channel might crush a bowling ball in the near future.

[–]MightiestEwok 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

Lets be real here. You have been a dingus too and you should have just PM'd him instead of making a video about it.

we wanted to opened a dialogue that was on a lot of people's minds.

Cmon dude.

[–]incognito_red 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why do people keep assuming that they are the best of friends and that ethan broke the sacred rule of friendship by bringing him out to justice after he did such a shitty thing?

They were mere online acquaintance's and ethan did what he thought was the right thing to do instead being a coward and I totally respect him for that because that is one of the many reasons which makes him different from other youtubers etc.

[–]MightiestEwok 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you've responded to the wrong comment buddy, I never claimed they were friends.

instead being a coward

It's not being a coward. It's called being civil. You should always try to clear things up privately before you air the dirty laundry.

[–]Shunsui_for_CC 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, i think this is where Ethan made a mistake. Seems like Leafy and Ethan were pretty good friends. Their friendship was good enough to even shit on somebody in private. But then Ethan just backstabs Leafy without even giving a heads-up. That's mean from Ethan. He could've at least told Leafy to stop making fun of kids or stop using clickbaits in private.

[–]Nebjamink 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That doesn't mean they were good friends at all, you don't need to be good friends with someone to shit on someone else with them. It's literally the equivalent to if you and another coworker that you aren't very close to get talking and you might start gossiping about another coworker.

Doesn't mean you're friends with that person, just that they had a mutual dislike for that person. Where do people keep getting it from that they must have really good friends by using this point?

[–]Crashlight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Friendship doesn't have to be that good to shit on someone in private.

[–]qstion6006 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I dont respect, like and support people that talk behind other people backs. bitch ass mofos talk shit behind other people backs. im not a fan of leafy nor h3h3 pyro doesnt exist for me, but ethan i know this: u should've talked to leafy privately and not with your "heart" publicly dont try to use words that appeal to the public. use your fcking logic not your "heart"

[–]JonnyTango 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Common they vented about someone in privat who ripped them off which is considerably frustrating when you know how much work it took them to build their channel and their style. So it's totally normal to blow of some steam. H3H3 went public because he didn't wanna look silent on what is happening with these commentary channels and leafy was just an example. It's not just about Tommy but all the kids he is bullying. Ethan said it in his video himself that he was hypocritical to not say something all this time. And I think Ethan and Hila are the right people to shine light on this because they are doing basically the same thing but they show how you can do it with out bullying someone and as he said having some delicacy.

[–]RevanTheConqueror 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you for your transparency to this community. I think it's safe to say this whole beef can be put to bed; we trust your judgement and I for one am 100% behind you in your actions. Keen to move on to more goofs and gaffs and laughs, Papa bless.

[–]gangstarapmademe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still love you Ethan, keep up the great work. Proud of you.

[–]The_beaver_mafia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that the thing that annoyed me the most in leafy's vid was his fucking annoying voice

[–]NaggingShrimp88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Papa bless you Ethan, now let's get back to making some new goofs and gaffs (I'm Ethan Bradberry)

[–]PleatedStoner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who the fuck even cares anymore? Leafy fucked up, he made fun of somebody with autism. H3H3 proved to be a bit of a shitty friend. Both sides of the argument are giving me cancer. Can we just leave it now and move on.

[–]charles1771 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

l0l at how toxic h3h3's fan base is, they call leafy cancer because he insults kids and people with disabilities (unknowingly) and yet these threads are full of people calling his fans retarded 12 year olds.

It's weird how people are trying to hold leafy accountable for the actions of his fans, but h3h3's fans are just as bad, and just like leafy h3h3 is doing nothing to stop them.

[–]rockets9495 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now back to the goofs spoofs lafs gaffs riots AND romps.

Nah, not how it works. You don't get to play mother superior, voice of all that is good, condemner of all that is evil and then just go back to tucking in your shirt and coughing like nothing happened. Not only have you decided that you are some sort of moral authority (a change that frankly I'm not alone in saying is getting really old, really fast) you are deciding to drag people into condemnation by name. Who the fuck are you to reprimand other youtubers? You got a large following because you made some catchy sayings and had some funny skits- then somewhere between then and now you found yourself on some self appointed moral high ground? What the fuck?

[–]_BsL_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

See, I've been subbed to leafy since 30k, and just a new sub of h3h3. I'm also not one to take sides. Both are in the wrong but I'm notg gonna rant about either one. Just let this shit slide, I'm still gonna support both channels either way.

[–]TheGoofinGafster 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Jesus, watching h3h3's subs go down is like watching the world end in front of your eyes. I mean who hasn't vented about someone they hate and said things they didn't mean in the process? Everyone. Talk about making mountains out of molehills.

[–]JessWK 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Won't last. Once the 12 year olds get bored, we'll get back to the goofs and gaffs.

[–]CraftingCK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It honestly won't affect their channel too much, finebros are still a thing with much more people wanting their death.

[–]FunkyMark 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That might be a good thing for the h3h3 community honestly.

[–]DeafCherry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is instead of making a video calling him out and making this drama Ethan you should have just frickin talked to Leafy privately. Talk some since to him if you were in his sub box and you some small relationship it shows he had some trust in you telling you the things he did. He trusted you and you broke that trust man. You can keep back tracking, but honestly you aren't better than Leafy or Pyro in this because you're like what over 34 or something? These are a 18 year old and a 22 year old... Handle it like an adult man. I know you are a young spirit and I like Leafy, pyro, and you (#VapeNation) but you made this thing happen. Your fans are just as bad as Leafy's and it showed in a few days. Now people are just shit posting everywhere and making little videos everytime hoping to milk the drama you started. Keemstar just got a pay check off you being a white knight. How does that feel? Not good I bet... Sorry for the rant. I love your content hope you make something good soon.