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[–]daughterjudy16 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Last month I started a totem that included print outs of google search trends. One of the markers I've been using is Istanbul. However, I noticed I made a typo for my printout searching instanbul instead, which I'm glad I made this error, because I thought there would be less chance of a manipulation of the data vs the correct spelling. This is a picture of my printout for 2/28/16 and 3/22/16. You can easily see that the google search trend data is not the same as it should be. http://imgur.com/TNIYmcL

[–]laughingrrrl 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow! This hasn't gotten much attention. It should be higher up in the thread. I'm guessing that the only way for this to be explained within a standard reality would be that the algorithms Google is using have been tweaked to pick up/log different search results. Except... searches including one specific word is/should be very straightforward data. As in, it either is or isn't a search for that word; it's a binary, clear cut distinction.

I think you've found something significant, if these graphs are genuine. And as other people have mentioned, try to keep your results printed out or offline to reduce the chances of tampering.

[–]Wendigoon -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

But who would tamper with those results, and why?

[–]Japjer 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not sure at all what this data is showing, other than there may be other people mispelling the name. There's no data there other than some words and a big squiggly line, whicg does not at all constitute reliable scientific documentation (sampled over less than a month)

[–]daughterjudy16 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The sample is the google search trend for the word instanbul from 2005-2016. One print out from this specific word trend that I made on the date 2/28/16 and with the same word that I made on 3/22/16. The data on the graphs should be identical for the time period of 2005 up until 2/16 when I made my original search and print out. It's not one month, it's 11 years worth of data trends that have suddenly changed in one month's time. That's why it's significant and what we are trying to understand.

[–]Japjer -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, okay. I still have to say that, while the variances are there, most of them really seem to be minor variances in the roughness of those peaks and valleys. Minor, minor changes that could be the result of either print quality or general issues with how Google handles these results.

If the variances were large and consisted of heavy peaks and dips it would be harder to disagree, but as it stands we're seeing an acceptable margin of error of 1-2%

[–]TheOldTubaroo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It does show the same overall shape though, it's just the details are slightly different. A difference that small could probably be explained by just grouping the data slightly differently. It looks like they have a data point per month there - perhaps instead of starting each month on the 1st, they group it differently to capture data from the partial month you're in.

Alternatively, they use an estimate based on records from a few servers instead of the whole lot. Either they've upped the accuracy lately, or it's just that different sets of servers answering your request give slightly different answers, because it's an estimate. This second hypothesis also explains OP's issue, so maybe it's more likely.

[–]daughterjudy16 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like your idea that this is an estimate based on a few servers and that the results will vary slightly. I googled the trend today the records are different then the two I posted yesterday. So I am in agreement with you. Since my typo is so insignificant in regards to having any value to manipulate the data, the fact that it does has consistent variations when searching the trend but maintains the generalized shape of the graph gives merit to your hypothesis. Thanks

[–]Plebbar 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or, coming back to the real world, google trends is a new, experimental tool and isn't perfect.

[–]laughingrrrl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And even if the observed trend is/was valid data, all it -really- means is reality is stranger than we think. You can't derive any conclusions from a single observation.

[–]stormbreath 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

Let me get this straight.

Google has the power to manipulate the past by controlling what you see. With such power, they could vastly change politics, and the world. In essence, "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

Google has decided to use this power to subtly alter a quote from a movie? They have all this power, and that is what they use it for?

[–]JKrista 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how they test it...

[–]AverageMysticMammal 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's uh.. it's the long game.

Shrug

Or it's just a quantum piece of dust fell on the script writers neurons from the fifth dimension. The fifth dimension, where time is as easy to move through as space in any direction, but nothing lives there, there's just particles floating around. But.. nothing used to live in our universe, and now we do, so maybe those particles will spawn life in that universe and that life will have to eat.. something.

I'm just kidding, but it sounds like a decent scifi/horror time waster movie to me.

[–]legitasl3alls 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait... isn't that the plot for interstellar?

[–]AverageMysticMammal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no idea, I've never watched it. I assumed from the title that it was about space.

[–]PrimalRedemption[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

First of all, politics is already 100% controlled on both sides. Even when the masses manage to NOT vote for a total Imbecile like Bush, he still gets "elected". History and history books have long been full of propaganda and lies.

Second, you failed to miss the point entirely of this data manipulation. This original trend search had damning evidence proving that the Mandela effect had basis in actuality. The video received thousands of views, people were catching on. In the span of only a month and a half the trend data magically changes to no longer support the Mandela effect.

Third, there is obviously a threshold to how much of history you can change at a time, because even sheeple will revolt if prodded too hard. It is evident that a testing phase has been underway to see how many of you will fall for subtle alterations, and so far it is obviously successful. "History revisionism" for now is much better accomplished through traditional means. Do you think the library of Alexandria was burnt to ashes on accident? Do you think 50,000 cuneiform tablets from 6,000 years ago were destroyed in the war with Iraq on accident? Maybe you need to brush up on some critical thinking skills and apply some logic to the world around you.

[–]stormbreath 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why? Why would Google decide to alter a famous movie quote with no significance to politics or global domination and that people would realize if it was changed? They have all this power, and they change something with no actual meaning and that people notice a change in?

[–]PrimalRedemption[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just wrote out three paragraphs worth of answer.

[–]stormbreath 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, you didn't. You wrote three paragraphs that completely avoided my point. You have one paragraph on how politics is already controlled, reiteration of the support, and a conspiracy about how history has been manipulated in the past. (FYI - The Library of Alexandria burned down three times and any original works it had had been copied and were elsewhere.)

You failed to actually give a motive. Why? Doesn't Google have better things to do?

[–]PrimalRedemption[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me: The sky is blue.

You: "Let me get this straight. Of all the colors the sky could choose to be, it chooses to be blue? Why? Doesn't it have anything better to do, like be red or green?"

Me: The Sky is blue due to Rayleigh scattering when light travels through transparent solids or gases such as our atmosphere. Because the molecular sizes of nitrogen and atmosphere are small, they are more effective at scattering shorter wavelengths of light such as blue and violet. Thus this predominantly scattered blue light makes the sky look blue. To a bee however, it appears violet.

You: But why? WHY is the sky blue? Why wouldn't it just be GREEN?!?

Me: I just wrote out a long paragraph explaining why.

You: No, you didn't. You wrote a paragraph that completely avoided my point. You have one sentence on how particles scatter light, reiteration of the support, and a conspiracy about bees. (FYI- bees see the sky as violet). You failed to actually give an answer. Why? Doesn't the sky have better things to do than be blue?

Me: ...

[–]JKrista 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I remember reading an article about something Google was doing somewhere around 2011-2012. It said something about Google buying up old decommissioned aircraft carriers with the intention of creating a worldwide network of some sort. I can't seem to find anything about that now,and never heard anything further about what they did with the project. Anyone else remember a story like that?

[–]RogueClassHero 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Something about Google barges I think. Something to that degree IIRC.

[–]JKrista 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wikipedia has an article on them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_barges

[–]chaiiya 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After all the media coverage, I think it just ended up being used for testing and showcasing google glass. They say a bit about that in the article.

[–]Bitchinthematrix 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Google begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, March 23rd. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

[–]a_broken_zat 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

At 3:24 am, the country wide emergency system broadcasts this message on all tvs, radios, and text alert systems:

Please remain in your homes, if you are not at home, find shelter immediately. Close all blinds and shades, block out all windows.

Do not look outside.

Do not look at the sky.

Do not make noise.

Your cooperation is vital to your survival. Appointed government personnel will update you shortly.

[–]CousinGeorge 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

That is very interesting, but I can't honestly say that it's very surprising. First off, the fact that the past is changing is the biggest shocker. Then we notice evidence of traces left after the changes, which has been well established. Then, we notice those traces slowly fade away and in some cases even new changes on top of the old ones as we move forward.

I'm glad you shared this because, we are learning now that google trends is not immune to these aftereffects and you're right to think that neither is anything else, possibly even reddit and our posts. What is to say that off-line hard drives are safe? They are not. Remember, book covers in peoples attics have changed.

If this subreddit is any indication of something that IS safe.. it's us, or at least our memories.

[–]wehnsdaefflae 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're seriously trusting human memory more than their physical materalisation?! Why did people start to write things down in the first place?!

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    [–]wehnsdaefflae 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    listen george, i did not want to make you upset. im sorry if the questions were phrased a bit provocatively. id still like to know your answers though.

    regarding your questions: im here because i do honestly think that what we mean when we talk about the world is in most parts subjective. i do think that not only memories, but in fact the world as a whole, is mainly subjective and actual reality is quite different from what we perceive it to be.

    i think also, however, that most of the people that post their theories about this are pretty biased and stubborn. unexpected effects are never explained by the fallibility of their own memory but instead because reality itself changes, unbeknownst by everyone else and independent from the implications this would have.

    many people that believe in such things as the mandela effect are pretty set in their ways, for example, in assuming conspiracies of some sorts. although they are skeptic of reality (which is a good thing), they are not skeptic of their own theories of reality (which is not a good thing) and shy away from discussions with someone that has a different opinion.

    id like to understand the reasons for that. thats why im here.

    [–]heybrother45 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This sub started out as a look at the psychological effect. It only recently has been taken over by the "switching universes/simulation" theory folks. The rational people probably abandoned ship a long time ago. But, since memory lapse is a theory (and the best one) of the ME, you can't just tell people to get out.

    [–]Roril 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, I think something is going to happen soon, but I don't think it has anything to do with a high-tech Singularity or a robot holocaust... It will be different than those things.

    [–]PhiWeaver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah probably this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkAVnG-Jya8

    Yes, Mckenna says 2012 there, but people that have listened to his lectures know that he said it could also be around 2017/18 as a window of time. Also Peter Meyer who programmed the Timewave software adjusted the zero date to around then.
    http://www.fractal-timewave.com/articles/zerodate_reconsidered.html

    [–]hairsprayking 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    See a doctor

    [–]SiaDelicious 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A few days ago I watched a video of someone who used Google Trends and it clearly showed in the Star Wars Line that the new one started later.. And yesterday I wanted to try Trends myself and also saw the change that it has always been searched. Kinda freaked me out.

    Well, anyway we're pretty much screwed.

    [–]wehnsdaefflae 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So if this post is still present in, let's say, a week from now then your "absolute proof" turns out to mean nothing at all, amirite?

    In this case, future you might first try to explain things that it doesn't immediately understand more conventionally.

    Even if that doesn't work, however, "self-aware MainFrames" and "distorted realities" are still not the next best way to go...

    [–]pzsoir121 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is very interesting Great Work :) if the internet is self aware maybe we can find more evidence in other areas of the internet as well. IF 1 is correct then there is a whole Group or organization that are working in secret or with in the govt that has a lot more Information about the Mandela Effect and probably have known for many years before the internet was even a thing. Either way this is got to be the most interesting thing in the history of mankind and we are the ones who are aware of it lets keep up the good work and keep vigilant.

    [–]YouTee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why did you screenshot that google trends? In what world would you have needed that screenshot?

    [–]PetroleumJoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The only accurate way to measure google's data accurately is to go back in time.

    [–]CleruTesh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I specifically remember the quote "Luke, I am your father." becoming popular to say in my circle during the time of the Star Wars prequels. Part of the ad campaign involved a commercial where a guy with a bucket on his head said that line. Might have been tied in with Doritos? I've seen Empire Srikes Back probably a half dozen times. Back when I watched TV, I probably saw your average commercial hundreds of times. Seems entirely possible to me that a combination of "grapevine effect" and media repetition could cause the incorrect quote to be more strongly impressed upon our psyches than the original one. No offense to anyone. I'm new to this Mandela Effect and still a bit skeptical. On that note, I've seen a several mentions of "totems". If a timeline change indeed affects internet, books, movies, etc... how would the totem not change as well?

    [–]Thewatchfuleye1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There is something peculiar I've noticed about Google. I can be watching a TV show say off of History, look up something totally obscure and it will automatically be the first suggested even if it's something that should fall behind other search results. For instance I was watching a show on Auschwitz the other day. I typed Os into Google because I was going to look up Oskar Schindler and guess what pops up as suggested 1st? Oskar Schindler. Not Oscars, Not OS or operating system. How exactly can you explain that?

    Sometimes I just have to think about it. When I posted that Herschel Walker Dead Mandela Effect I posted the other day that I have before I posted it I typed Herschel Walker into Google and the first thing that came up as suggested was Herschel Walker Dead.

    [–]pixelbomb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great post, keep up the good work! This is what I like to see.

    [–]Lucid_Rainbow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, ive noticed google doing funny things too.

    I'm thinking it might be theory 2, but am also wondering that the manipulation of evidence is from human consciousness that refuses to believe in ME thereby creating information to the contrary.

    PS. or us expecting google to change the information is causing it. Whatever you expect to happen will. (seek and you shall find)

    [–]Japjer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There was actually this big 'did you know' thing a few years back that mentioned everyone misquoting that line. It also proves little beyond Google's trend data being fairly new and not fully updated.

    The choices are 'Google using this vast power to alter a quote and cover up converging realities' and 'The sample data just isn't correct due to it being new,' which leaves us with a logicial option and some wild and completely unsupported claim.

    [–]heybrother45 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah but we're in /r/mandelaeffect. We've pretty much gone full timecube.

    [–]heybrother45 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So you remembered a quote wrong, but deep in your heart of hearts you just know that you're right. To "prove" this, you "found" a conspiracy by a self aware internet to manipulate reality to make it look like you were wrong on a very popular misconception.

    Nothing about this seems...I don't know....INSANE to you?