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[–]cactusjack- [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You won't see a push for multiculturalism anywhere but in historically white countries.

[–]FeelWhatIFeelUndecided Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ironically, the push for multiculturalism typically means "less white people."

[–]gizayabasu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Multiculturalism is a product of white guilt.

[–]conspiracy_nut_ [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Of course we'd never see it, but that's because western values are better than middle east theocracies.

I personally don't decide my behavior and what's acceptable based on what middle eastern countries think. Jesus commanded me to take care of those in need, and that's one of the many things that make Jesus better than Mohammad.

[–]Recovering_Ratfink[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"I personally don't decide my behavior and what's acceptable based on what middle eastern countries think." No one is telling you to do so. This comic only criticizes Saudi Ariabia.

Since you mention Jesus, is is safe to conclude that you are a Christian? Let's assume so. Jesus did in fact command you (presumably a Christian) to take care of those in need.

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious but, nowhere do I see Jesus also commanding you to take care of those in need by requiring you to take them into your home to sleep under the same roof where your wife, children, perhaps even your parents reside. Nowhere does Jesus command you to feed them from the food in your refrigerator. Nowhere does Jesus command you to give them a portion of your paycheck which you separated for your family. Jesus also does not command you to keep doing this while they reside in your home, even if they refuse to help with any chores. If the children of "those in need" start a fight with yours inside your own house, are you obligated to blindly continue to help them?

Yes, He did say to help those in need but, I'd like to think, He purposely did not specify what I mentioned above as He probably imagined someone who hearkened to His command would not help "those in need" at the cost of his own family.

Remember also something that Paul wrote in 1Timothy 5:8: “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” Are we to continue to blindly provide for "those in need" when some of "those in need" want us dead while living in our house and helping themselves to our resources while refusing to help out with chores?

Regarding whether or not Jesus is better than Muhammad based solely on Jesus commanding you to help those in need is, in my opinion, not the best way to make that distinction. From what I understand, Muhammad also commanded his followers to help those in need. At least in that specific regard, he may not be distinguished much from Jesus. For further, more compelling distinctions you only need look here.

[–]cth1ic_warrior [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Jesus was so nice and cordial to his enemies that they crucified him.

Being Jesus-like doesn't mean being stupid, nor does it mean always being nice.

Islam is incompatible with western Christian values. Always has been, always will be.

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[–]douchebag_investor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sounds like a stupid rule freedom hating liberal would come up with.

What ever happened to democracy?

[–]weaver787 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

This is correct. Too many push factors and not enough (or any) pull factors. But I'm assuming this cartoon isn't about how Westerners aren't really dying to get into third world countries... That's obvious. This is about how Islamic countries aren't as welcoming to other religions as we are.

That is also true. The point is that we're supposed to be better than that. We do it on purpose because it makes us a better and more free society. Arguing to do the same as others do to us is not how we should conduct business.

[–]Recovering_Ratfink[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The point is that we're supposed to be better than that.

Interesting, I didn't see that as the point at all. I saw the point of the comic as being critical to Saudi Arabia. Any further points come from your mind. Even so, we're supposed to be better than an Islamist theocracy? No argument there.

We do it on purpose because it makes us a better and more free society.

"We" do what on purpose? You didn't define your pronoun. If you mean by "we do it" that we choose to not make sensible, wise distinctions between categories of potential migrants because we don't take into account individual merit and likelihood of integration, then yes that is largely what we're doing. As to whether it makes us a more free and open society, I'm not certain I want the kind of freedom and openness you're selling.

Arguing to do the same as others do to us is not how we should conduct business.

It's a comic criticizing Saudi Arabia. Any further argument being made here is sourced from what you're projecting.

[–]weaver787 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I do believe that saying this comic only applies to Saudi Arabia is a bit disingenuous. The conclusions that I came to are not just "from my own projections" and moreso an analysis of the very obvious broader message of the cartoon.

As for the rest of what you said, we could argue all day about immigration restrictions and the pros/cons of it, but we probably look at these issues from different angles. I will say, however, that the title of the article "ISIS Takes the Capital of the EU" is hilariously alarmist and not even close to what the actual situation is.

[–]Recovering_Ratfink[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"The conclusions that I came to are not just "from my own projections" and more so an analysis of the very obvious broader message of the cartoon."

What is "obvious" is that the comic criticizes Saudi Arabia. Anything further is a matter of opinion and personal reflection and interpretation. You'd do well as a professor of literature.

"the title of the article "ISIS Takes the Capital of the EU" is hilariously alarmist and not even close to what the actual situation is."

Sometimes an alarm going off is necessary to alert those in the building of a fire. Alarmist title or not, you'd do well to read the article. It mentions things such as how it’s estimated that Muslims will become the majority of the population of the capital of the EU in 14 years. Elections in Brussels and proposed amendments to current laws will surely be interesting in 20 years' time. How silly of me, I'm projecting.

[–]dontmindmeohno [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

They usually teach this in kindergarten, but I'll remind you: When the other kids behave badly, that doesn't give you an excuse to behave badly yourself.

k?

[–]Rosssauced [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My thoughts exactly. Saudi Arabia isn't exactly who we should be emulating.

[–]Recovering_Ratfink[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Although I'm grateful for the reminder, when "the other kids" behave "badly", it also does not compel us to behave in the extremely opposite way.

I'd like to ask you to consider other actions that may be considered as "the other kids behaving badly". For example, can the "bad" behaviour of some of "the other kids" in your hypothetical kindergarten include gunning down kids who disagree with them then blowing themselves up when the teachers arrive to stop them?

Did the "other kids" come from a different classroom and decide to "behave badly" in someone else's classroom?

[–]Day_C_Metrollin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You missed the point. The cartoon points out the hypocrisy of Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia

[–]weetchexLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

. . . an unaltered Ben Garrison comic?

[–]p4ts0 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's too bad it'd be nice to get a few of them out of the U.S. particularly the the Xian politicians

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Either you're sarcastic or the edge is strong

[–]Recovering_Ratfink[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Some say that when /r/atheism accumulates enough edge, it must leak else reddit will explode. Pay no mind.

[–]PeetriusFar-Right [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ben "Empty my 9 in thr welfare line" Garrison does it again!