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[–]Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing women hate the most is not being able to tell men how to be men. The other thing women hate the most is men that let women tell them how to be a man.

This is the fem-centric Double Bind.

Both groups are "misogynists" in women's eyes. But the reality, as you so aptly point out, is that only one group is truly misogynistic ... and they are often the ones who have abandoned their own masculinity. The ones who fell prey to the Double Bind. Even for them the question is whether it is really "hate", or simply a matter of self-loathing for their own capitulation.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The group of manly "misogynists" women gossip about are the men they'd fuck if they could. "He's such an asshole" is code for "He has my attention".

The real misogynists are pretty much invisible to women.

[–]NaughtyFred 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The ones who don’t hit girls, because they’re girls, are actually sexist, because they’re treating girls differently and more gently on account of their sex.

It’s the white knights and the womanized losers that make up the large majority of misogynists.

Good points raised. Reminds me of a scene from the movie Ghost Dog: Way of the samurai.

Louie: Jesus, Vinny. You just iced a woman, you know that?
Vinny: You know what you are, Louie? You're a fuckin' male chauvinist pig. Louie: What do you mean, I'm a male chauvinist pig? You just shot a broad.
Vinny: A cop. I just shot a cop. They wanna be equal? I made her equal.

[–]abutterfly 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's been said a few times here and elsewhere that the most truly Red Pill men don't hate women. Quite the opposite, they love them. Knowing how they work, what makes them tick, makes spending time with women just as enjoyable as your favorite song, hobby, workout, food, whatever.

Cries of "misogyny!!" are a shit test, and a particularly insidious one at that. They are, like all shit tests, a tool to differentiate the true alpha from the mock alpha, the PUA, the 'undesirables.' A man who has truly internalized the values of the Red Pill (better stated as the values of masculinity itself) knows a claim of being misogynistic is absurd. He enjoys the company of women as much as he enjoys his own life, since in building his own attractive, desirable, and successful self, he improves the life of any woman he spends his time with. If he dismisses a woman, it's not because he hates her. Rather, it's likely because he recognizes her attraction to him has faded, and that is both an indicator of his own worth (as perceived by her) and her happiness. Think about it. If you were with a woman who didn't want to be with you, how would you react? If you choose to drag her along, surely you're inflicting as much discomfort to her as you are to yourself. That is not to say relationships are easy, but rather as is iterated time and again here: It has to look easy.

The reason TRP gets such a bad rap is because it is a place where incomplete, struggling men go to better themselves. It is a place where the struggle of man to be masculine, successful, and powerful is made public. Women want no part of this. They don't even want to know it exists. That is why the PUA community is openly mocked and reviled by so many women, just like our own. The anger phase is a natural byproduct of this struggle, but it is revolting to women. Those who are stuck there are doomed to true misogyny. But those who embrace masculinity, like /u/Archwinger has written, are capable of appreciating women in ways they truly desire.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Red Pill detractors are really just a grown-up version of high school bullies. We have a lot of losers, fatties, scrawny guys, geeks, nerds, socially awkward guys on the autism spectrum, and all other manner of unsuccessful people that the in-crowd wishes would just shut up and disappear.

Nobody cares if guys like that complain -- sour grapes. Bitter virgins hating on women because they can't get laid. Classic beta-shaming.

The Red Pill won't turn you into someone you're not. But will teach you how to attain and live a winner's life. As a side effect of living a winner's life, you trick women into fucking you. That's terrifying to women.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's terrifying to them because it's so fucking easy to do.

[–]TheEnglishman28 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like judo, you use their own weight and momentum against them.

[–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was my boy at 4. Without channeling the energy into sports and a strong set of boundaries (placed by me) he would also be fucked in a feminized, medicalized way.

Instead, he is gonna kick ass and never understand the weakness of men around him. Girls already lining up for the attention he doesnt give away freely

[–]trpthrowaway2003 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they’ve been indoctrinated with the mentality that girls are weaker, lesser – inferior – and that you don’t hit them because they can’t take it the way you can.

At his age, this isn't true because girls actually develop quicker than boys when we are young.

However, it is actually true that adult men are generally superior to women physically.

You really shouldn't hit anyone unless you are defending yourself, or someone. I think that goes for both genders, both ways.

Edit: You are right, 100% shitty parenting / supervision all around.