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[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (5子コメント)

This all being said, please don't go on a witchhunt.

[–]Ornlu_WolfjarlStellar Explorer 197ポイント198ポイント  (6子コメント)

My liege,

Separatist Rebels have taken control of

/r/Stellaris

[–]KailvinEmperor of Palmyra 93ポイント94ポイント  (4子コメント)

No. They took control like 2 months ago. They just enforced demands tho :(

[–]WhapXI 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aww man they're gonna get cores and shit. You know how long it takes to remove those?

[–]Das_MimeA King of Europa 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

sadly since it's their primary culture group the cores don't go away

[–]NickTM 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where's my purge button got to?!

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretender Rebels

[–]Recatek 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

Then, the last straw - a link to the his site selling vaping supplies.

Of all the things you could possibly shill on an unrelated subreddit, it just had to be vaping supplies.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a bit strange, seeing links to Paradox sites, stores and then this.

[–]DunDunDunDuuunMap Staring Expert 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The official Stellaris-branded vape supplies?

[–]Chrys7 65ポイント66ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bummer. Perfectly understandable and reasonable as far as I'm concerned, see you all over at /r/stellarisgame.

[–]jb2386 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

From one mod to another I feel ya. I hope this works, you guys definitely seem the more rational bunch. I've dealt with people go rouge before, not fun times.

Looks like he removed your post from there too. It had 70 upvotes.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bound to happen eventually. It was inevitable.

[–]jordanjay29 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, I almost missed seeing that post by 5 minutes. And to think if I had gotten on reddit a few minutes later, I would never know. I don't really visit /r/pp.

[–]Ornlu_WolfjarlStellar Explorer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

go rouge

as opposed to going bleu?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, speaking of 'one-mod-to-another', I'd have a look at the new /r/Stellaris banner. A lot more relevant than it has any right to be.

Now that it's been removed.

[–]DCE1G 28ポイント29ポイント  (11子コメント)

If linking to his own personal site is against the reddit rules then perhaps you could try to have him removed and have r/stellaris transferred over?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 27ポイント28ポイント  (10子コメント)

He's changed it now after a member of the community brought it up. The Admins have been messaged, though knowing how response the Reddit Admins actually are- Well, I'll be surprised if any change occurs. Especially for a Sub of that size.

edit: Spelling mistake, phone keyboards be tiny.

[–]greenlamb 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

They did eventually respond for the sub I mod, so don't lose hope, just that it might be quite a bit delayed.

I'm sure someone in Reddit HQ is also a Stellaris fan!

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You'd think /r/Frozen would have a ton more subscribers, given how popular it was. And, I should hope so! Paradox needs to expand it's influence.

[–]DCE1G 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

That's really unfortunate, hopefully they see it and doing something about it.

There's definitely precedent for subs with crappy mods splintering and the ones with better mods doing well. The guy that mods /r/mlb and /r/yankees is apparently a twat so his subs are dead while /r/baseball and /r/nyyankees are doing quite well.

I'll be joining the new sub ;)

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, we've thought about it and if it happens, it happens. One of our mods was around for the /r/netherlands /r/thenetherlands drama, and he brought that up as an example.

[–]DCE1G 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only thing I might suggest is updating the CSS for the new sub in some way to help distinguish it from the old one. Also if you still have any mods on the old sub, perhaps the CSS and be ahem reclaimed from their too.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The CSS was written by us, we've got a copy saved from the mod who made it. We'll be updating the new sub now that the move has happened too, this entire thing was only put together in a few days.

[–]woeskies 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wait, what happened there? Did Anglos take over?

[–]AstronelsonA King of Europa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

1688 never forget!

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure on the details myself since I only go there to make fun of Dutch being inferior to Afrikaans, though I'm sure a quick google will find some information.

[–]woeskies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Couldint find much, that's why I asked. I am also on my phone though

[–]portodhamma 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. What a jerk. It's sad how petty people can be.

[–]Shagomir 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's a bummer this came to a head just when the community was starting to pick up some steam, there were more posts in the last week than there had been in the last 6 months it seemed like.

Hopefully you guys get some attention from the Admins.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, we were just mentioning how the Subscriber count was skyrocketing before we switched. I mean, if it comes to it then we'll just let Mani do his own thing.

As an aside, go back to /r/worldbuilding! It's weird seeing you in other places.

[–]Shagomir 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

But I want to purge the xenos!

[–]ricksansmortyLrod of the Dyslexics 37ポイント38ポイント  (18子コメント)

So do I change the link for the dyslexic in my sub /r/stelaris now?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 33ポイント34ポイント  (11子コメント)

If you'd be so kind. I'll even give you a special flair.

[–]EsholEshek 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

Lord High Redirector?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think 'Lord of the Dyslexics' has a better ring to it.

[–]ticktockbent 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Shouldn't it be 'Lrod of the Dyslexics'?

[–]MurkiryCnout of the Dyslexics 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

How about 'Lord of the Dyxle...' nevermind.
Then maybe 'Lord of the Dylsexi...' Oh, that doesn't work either.

Btw, did the person who decided to call it 'dyslexic' not see the irony?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's just a formation of the Greek root word 'Lexis', or 'Word', and the prefix 'Dys-' which means difficulty.

I don't imagine that there was a specific streak of bastardry in ancient Greek culture when it came to naming stuff.

[–]derkriegerHoly Paradoxian Emperor 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You'll find that a lot of ancient greek culture is based on bastardry.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're thinking of pederasty, Derk.

[–]ProblyAThrowawayAcctBannerlard 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

... It's just a formation of the Germanic definite article 'der' with the word 'Krieger' which means fighter.

[–]Infamously_UnknownScrappy-doo 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alright, alright, I did it in my /r/thatnewspacegameidk as well. Can I get a flair?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

a community for 5 minutes

I dunno Scoob, I'm sensing somethin' awful fishy.

[–]MurkiryCnout of the Dyslexics 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Now you need /r/stelarisgame too.

Edit: Nvm, I created it already.

[–]musland 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

mods should give you Count or at least Baron for that.

[–]MurkiryCnout of the Dyslexics 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, I can't take credit for it. /u/ricksansmorty thought of it first.

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too bad.

[–]DeSanti 16ポイント17ポイント  (20子コメント)

We had a breakdown within the moderation team a few months ago. A political discussion went awry and /u/manicaeks ended up proceeding to use a variety of racial and homophobic slurs before demodding /u/Meneth

I'm not asking for more info, I understand that some details are better left unsaid but the general premise of this boogles my mind. So if I'm getting this right there was a discussion about politics that ended up with one guy getting so angry that he demodded another?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (16子コメント)

I really would like to go into specifics, believe me, the pure absurdity of the situation is amazing. To put it another way; the U.S. election became an incredibly un-fun topic of discussion incredibly quickly.

[–]TheDemonHauntedWorld 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Be honest... The real issue is that you guys are Team Iron Man... while he is Team Captain America.

[–]jordanjay29 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

You pronounce it "Gif(t)" don't you?

[–]TheDemonHauntedWorld 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

But of course... It's Graphics Interchange Format therefore pronounced GIF... not "Jraphics" Interchange Format to pronounce JIF.

[–]jordanjay29 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]TheDemonHauntedWorld 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

One is a billionaire genius who invented a freaking exosuit and true AI, the other is a soldier from ww2 who got frozen.

So how do pronounce? JIF or the right way?

[–]IrishB_CubedScheming Duke 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It involved Trump, didn't it, whenever the topic becomes of our elections this year gets really heated it always involves Trump.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wrong again.

[–]MDFificationMap Staring Expert 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

... Cruz?

(j/k, there's no way a vape dealer is a Republican)

[–]ToLongDR 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, 100% Sanders. With reddit having such a circle-jerk about him. If you say something wrong about Sanders, you are wrong. and dead. and executed, blinded and flayed.

[–]tyrannischgott 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not among the people I know... Everybody I know starts foaming at the mouth the moment you mention Clinton. They're Bernie fans.

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So if I'm getting this right there was a discussion about politics that ended up with one guy getting so angry that he demodded another?

That is exactly what happened.

[–]Gzalzi 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not surprising. Meneth is pretty extreme. He probably said some bullshit so-extreme-the-skeletons-might-cringe shit.

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope.

Source: Was there.

It's politics, and I don't want to get into it, but I'm on the other side to Meneth in that debate. It wasn't some extreme thing.

[–]ThetijoyA King of Europa 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

Question; Why with the need for a network of subreddits? is it to keep the reddit based player base in a common moderation style?Is it to make it easier for new paradoxians to find out about other games? Or is it to oppress the workers players into slaves of your capitalist regime!

basically, why bother with all of this centralization of the Paradox part of reddit?

edit; i just wanted to know, i am not against the networking, i like it, i just wanted to know while throwing in a joke while i was at it.

[–]KailvinEmperor of Palmyra 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

It allows for subs to have a symbiotic relationship. Some large subs have done a similar this (IE. /r/gaming and /r/games) In /r/eu4 we have much more 'lax' moderation rules. While in /r/paradoxplaza our moderation rules are much more strict. This allows for variety of content. So your thoughtful discussions are not buried in posts of 'look at my empire' and vice versa. Its simply easier to do this with a common set of moderators who understand and agree on the policy. It can be done without (I mean. take /r/crusaderkings for example. They are a symbiotic sub without the network) but it just makes things easier.

[–]ShalaiynDoctor Map Painter 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

It happened as an indirect consequence at first. The moderator team of /r/eu4 approached the pdxplaza modteam to manage the sub during their temporary absence. It was thereafter expanded with the creation of /r/hoi4, and then we were approached from the /r/paradoxplaza team after /r/stellaris approached them for help with css and proposed cooperation due to the self-explanatory relation between the subs, regardless of network or not.

The networking serves as a method of providing uniformity whilst ensuring quality for a highly similar if not identical fanbase, with mostly same ideas and posting habits. We still have varying degrees of strictness of moderation between subs, c.f. paradoxplaza vs eu4.

It also helps the moderators of otherwise divided subreddits by providing moderators from more timezones, and giving a more democratic process with more people in the moderator team for big decisions with weight to one subreddit or to the entire network. This decision is one of them, having been in consideration for a while and catalysing with the advertising of the drug paraphernalia.

Tldr: uniform moderation for a uniform community

I typed this on my phone, apologise for typos in advance.

[–]Chrys7 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

The sliders just started set that way and we all figured "Eh, it's not like it's hurting anything."

[–]AstronelsonA King of Europa 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always move the slider towards centralization if it's possible.

[–]AllUncertain 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Looks like he just deleted the sticky and my "THIS SUB IS DEAD" post from /r/stellaris.

edit: How do we retrieve the trapped pops?

[–]Calorie_MateBoat Captain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

edit: How do we retrieve the trapped pops?

People visiting /r/stellaris most likely also visit /r/paradoxplaza (or will so at one point) and thus, will migrate to the "correct" sub automatically. If they don't, chances are they don't really care anyway.

[–]Whadios -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why the fuck wouldn't a mod delete a thread like that? Seriously in pretty much any subreddit pulling shit like that should get you banned. It's their subreddit, from all I've seen it's always been theirs and it is certainly not acceptable to deliberately post in a subreddit to try and steal and direct away their users.

[–]IrishB_CubedScheming Duke 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

I am curious, what are all the subreddits in the Paradox Plaze Network? Is it all the game specific subreddits listed in the sidebar here, or only specific ones?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

The ones we currently share mods with are - /r/ParadoxPlaza, /r/EU4, /r/HoI4 and /r/StellarisGame. We're also working on /r/TyrannyGame and a few other private subs.

[–]IrishB_CubedScheming Duke 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Shocked /r/CrusaderKings and /r/Victoria2 are not involved, especially the former, as it is larger than the main /r/paradoxplaza and the /r/eu4 subreddits.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

CrusaderKings previously shared some mods with ParadoxPlaza but that all happened before the network was an actual thing. They've always done things their own way over there.

Victoria2 has always been on its own. I think there may have been a brief discussion once about them but we've never made any offers.

(EDITED to expand on points.)

[–]AstronelsonA King of Europa 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Victoria2 has always been on its own. I think there may have been a brief discussion once about them but we've never made any offers.

It's one of the top 8 Paradox subreddits, and so is a Great Power and can't be added to /r/ParadoxPlaza's sphere.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only because /r/mountandblade is no longer a civilized subreddit. If you added it to the Paradox game multireddit it would bump /r/victoria2 down to 9th place and then we could sphere them and gain all their precious resources.

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

We've also technically got /r/victoria3.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You weren't supposed to say that.

[–]Calorie_MateBoat Captain 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In case of /r/CrusaderKings, it definitely works out on their end. The game is fairly old and so, meme content doesn't really distract from the serious discussion. In fact, it's a welcome distraction for the seasoned players. Personally I think it's the best paradox sub there is, because the mixture of content is perfect.

I'm not sure if joining the network would haven them abandon some of their content policies, but that could be a reason. Or maybe it's because they're simply doing fine. Anyway, it's perfect the way it is.

[–]NotAzakanAtAll 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

But r/paradoxplaza is linked?

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you check the sidebar revision history (linked in the OP), you'll see it was edited back into the sidebar by one of our mods while we were trying to decide what to do about this situation.

[–]NotAzakanAtAll 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, right. I'm apparently not as perceptive as I though.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ehhh, sidebar revisions are tricky business. We went for weeks before realising that the links had been taken out.

[–]greatlaker7 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sucks for this to happen only a little over a month out from release. Hopefully this won't have too much of a negative impact on the growth of this community.

[–]moquelMap Staring Expert 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The title for the Stellaris sub was just changed to something super classy:

Stellaris - Johan thinks Child Porn and Piracy are equal

[–]Foundleroy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very unfortunate. But better do it now than never.

[–]MokitTheOmniscientMap Staring Expert 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Shouldn't you change the link in the sidebar to /r/stellarisgame then?

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Our CSS wizard is already on it. Or, rather, he should be.

[–]KailvinEmperor of Palmyra 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]ShalaiynDoctor Map Painter 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Leaking our Slack?! More drama!

[–]Stelith61Port Arthur Escapee 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]AndreDaGiant 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm now imagining a dutiful pizza delivery man feeding slices of pizza into the front door's mail slot. After all, it was paid for in advance, so successful delivery is not optional.

[–]Tokryva 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Upvoted purely for Hawkeye

[–]piankoladaIron General 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

we're off to a roaring start

[–]nullstorm0Victorian Emperor 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm just happy to be eternally immortalized in the "created by" blurb.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm going to badger the witty flair guy to get you a pink flair. Any preferences on what it would say.

[–]nullstorm0Victorian Emperor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is "Savior of Space" too egotistical?

[–]webdeveloper_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like they deleted the stickied thread and removed any posts talking about this over in /r/Stellaris.

I just unsubscribed from there.

[–]TheHartman88Map Staring Expert 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 19ポイント20ポイント  (9子コメント)

Up in flames? Bit over the top in my opinion, but h'okay.

[–]TheHartman88Map Staring Expert 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

You have cut all ties with r/stellaris and are making a rival subreddit. You have accused the mod of being a racist. I would say 'up in flames' is an accurate if not click baity title but accurate none the less. Anyway, those dudes on that subreddit live for drama.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

I haven't accused the mod of being a racist, I've accused (And evidence exists) of the mod using racial and homophobic slurs against another moderators for a falling out. Manicaeks is probably a lovely guy, but I'm not a fan of his method of debate.

Anyway, those dudes on that subreddit live for drama.

I would never have guessed that, from a Sub called SubredditDrama too? You learn something new every day.

[–]RakonasMap Staring Expert 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Manicaeks is probably a lovely guy

uses racist and homphobic slurs against people on their team

Fuck racists, fuck bigots, stop pretending that they just have a different opinion as if it should be respected.

[–]WhapXI 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the idea is more that no person is either all good or all bad due to one aspect of their life, however shitty. Fuck him for his bigotry, but the reality is that he's just a human being with a real life, loved ones, and like the rest of us just wants to live a happy life. I don't know what went wrong in his life to fill him with hate, and I guess it's not important. A moralising us-vs-them crusade on the internet isn't going to help anyone. It's just going to lead to more bad blood and more hurt butts. The best thing to do is give him no attention, no platform, but above all, respect his humanity. Give him no reason to continue to hate, and let the march of time show him that he, and others like him, were on the wrong side of history.

[–]Forderz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most people over there enjoy wading deep into comments to find more buttery goodness, and will probably see this.

I've also found a paradoxical (pun not intended) love of nuance in comments versus broad-stroke titles.

[–]WG55 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

How embarrassing. :(

[–]MetalusVerne 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can I recommend a sort of contract of prohibited behavior for moderators of future subreddits which you allow to join the Paradox Plaza network? Ie: No self promotion, no arbitrary demodding of fellow moderators, etc.? In that way, if this happens, we'll have something to point to in order to convince Reddit to take away control from the rogue mod.

Also, perhaps we could get Paradox to do a copyright takedown of /r/Stellaris or something, if Reddit is slow to react? You guys seem to have a good relationship with them, and presumably Paradox doesn't want to be associated with a lunatic, so they'd rather a more stable group control the subreddit associated with their game.

At the very least, hopefully Paradox does no further promotion on /r/stellaris, and instead uses /r/stellarisgame.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In that way, if this happens, we'll have something to point to in order to convince Reddit to take away control from the rogue mod.

The admins don't care about anything like that. As far as they're concerned, if you're the top moderator of a subreddit you can do whatever you want so long as it doesn't break the site-wide rules. He might have come close to breaking those with the unrelated link to his own store but removing it is probably enough to keep the admins satisfied.

At the very least, hopefully Paradox does no further promotion on /r/stellaris, and instead uses /r/stellarisgame.

I doubt they'll drop the original sub since there's still a decent sized community there (for now), but I have noticed that the new sub is included in Paradoxal_Bear's paradox game multireddit.

[–]finis34 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Manicaeks is probably a lovely guy, but I'm not a fan of his method of providing uniformity whilst ensuring quality for a Sub called SubredditDrama too?

[–]valergainStellar Explorer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

My only question is why is /u/Shalaiyn been kept on the moderating team of the old subreddit? Seems odd.

Any this all really sucks and I hope this is all resolved eventually.

[–]Die-EngelsmanCount of Staffordshire[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No real answer to that at the moment.

[–]trickster155 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Manicaeks is probably a lovely guy, but I'm on the moderating team of the drug paraphernalia.