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Is it unprofessional the way the club has reportedly gone behind LVG's back to get Jose rather than just sacking him and replacing him? (self.reddevils)
joelski11Rooney が 4時間前 投稿
Regardless of LVG's performance surely the club has a manner in which it should conduct itself?
[–]DublinguistSmalling 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
It's incredibly unprofessional that we've kept Louis this long
[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I think the only reasons were that Woodward was reluctant, Mourinho didn't want to join immediately and, there was trouble finding an interim. All that combined made this the only way perhaps. Not that it's a good thing but just, it made it hard to change.
[–]DublinguistSmalling 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
I agree, just wonder has keeping Louis this long done more damage than appointing Giggs or Nicky, or anyone as an interim.
The morale situation with a dead squib coach and uncertainty over next year can't be a good thing.
[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It very well could have more damage but if there wasn't any viable interim option available, then really though, what else could be done? Hire some unknown for the role for 4-6 whatever months back then? Doesn't sound sensible or even like a good decision.
It's easy to say he should've been let go but if there were no available options, then it's really forced that they didn't perhaps. As in, if giggs didn't want an interim role again and Butt felt he wasn't suitable.
[–]DublinguistSmalling 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Also who fucking downvoted your perfectly sensible comment? Come on people! The downvote button is for troll comments, jokes you don't get, and comments that suggest Varela might not be the world's best right back.
[–]GroteBergMan98Ronnie Pickering 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4時間前 (12子コメント)
I'm pretty sure Louis knows about it
[+]patthetree スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 3時間前 (11子コメント)
I am not sure about this, we were pretty disrespectful when we got rid of Moyes too
[–]GroteBergMan98Ronnie Pickering 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Mourinho and Van Gaal are good friends
[–]ManUToasterDiego Forlan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
You think to the point Mou would ring LvG before accepting the gig or something like that? If so, that would be great... but I've no clue if their friendship goes that far.
[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
All the more they may not talk about this. I mean... If I was being sought after to replace a very good friend of mine, I would find it awkward to talk to him/her about it maybe even though I would want to tell them... Then there could be clauses or so that don't always allow for disclosure. I mean, I would try and let them know still but, you definitely can imagine it's not something Mourinho could easily talk about or even want to due to their friendship maybe.
Just a tough situation to be put in I think.
[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
In what way were we disrespectful? We said nothing to the media, all we did was fire an underperforming manager at the end of the season. Some fans were disrespectful with that Moyes Out banner but not the club
[–]FeezbullGiggs 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間前 (5子コメント)
Erm..... It was leaked to the media that he was fired even before he was.... That's bloody darned shameful and despicable. Not sure how you couldn't remember that main thing.
As much as I wanted moyes out (really, really did), I thought it was just a pathetic way to handle it too.
The fans aside, Woodward and the club were really just low in how that was handled. Nothing professional about it at all for such a big organisation that prides itself on being good with values or whatever shenanigans.
[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
The media are bound to find out if the manager of a huge club has been sacked. They knew Sir Alex was leaving before it was announced and they knew Pellegrini was gone etc. Not like the club wanted it to get out
Not like the club wanted it to get out
nonsense. It was definitely allowed to leak with how all the common names printed it around the same time. If the club didn't want it leaked, nobody would say anything till they make an announcement. Like how Schneiderlin wasn't even known to be signed till the blood sample thing and we find out he's at Carrington in the car behind Bastian.
They definitely didn't do a good enough job to seal the information. If such a big club can't even do a proper job at it as you say and "the media are bound to find out" then, the club is even worse than you think really.
[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前* (2子コメント)
Maybe the media saw that a board meeting had taken place that day or something like that and that's how they all knew at the same time. And on top of there being zero proof it was leaked, it would have been in the best interest of Moyes and the club to keep the sacking quiet. I can't think of a reason it would be "definitely allowed to leak".
So given that there isn't really any reason why the club would want to leak it, we can say it was leaked accidentally (which happens all the time in football, Sir Alex, Conte to Chelsea, Pellegrini etc.) that is incompetence not disrespect.
[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Even if there was a meeting- you don't know for sure he's been sacked. You can speculate with "emergency meeting held. Manager decision imminent" instead of the moyes has been sacked. It was specific instead of speculative.
[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't know why exactly everyone knew, it didn't have to be a board meeting maybe there was an email, maybe something else but that doesn't matter. What matters is I'm fairly sure they didn't purposefully leak it to the media given that it would accomplish nothing for either party.
[–]patthetree 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
The way it was leaked to the media long before Moyes was told or before the club announced it.... That is disrespectful
[–]ri0t333Januzaj 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
There's no way LVG doesn't know Jose was approached by the club. He is a smart man, he knows that he couldn't deliver what was expected of him.
[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
I imagine him saying to themedia "You've been saying for 4 months that I amj going to be sacked" and that is proof the club are going to let him take an "early retirement" instead of being sacked.
I see it as a few ways:
He's being defiant to the media because that's the stance he has to take, whether or not he's been informed. Why? Say otherwise and his words and anything becomes irrelevant in a season where he is STILL manager after all. It also quashes the rumours for that day in the press conference, even if he has to do it again next week etc. It ends the conversation.
He really feels his job is safe as he was assured by Woodward maybe and so, believes what he says as much more likely than not. Woodward is actually getting people to do it on his behalf and it's behind LVG's back in a way.
He's not being considered for replacement at all and so, portrays that stance.
Those are 3 of the main things I see it as but no matter what combination even, he will always be defiant in the media as he hates the way they do things and it's part of his job to deflect from it too and make it convincing.
[–]MoodyBernoulli 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分前 (0子コメント)
It's funny how LvG started saying that Jose has not been contacted by the club.
I haven't seen anything recently of him repeating that so maybe he now knows and hasn't repeated is since.
[–]Crusty_Gammon_Flaps 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
It's not like they can wait because then a manager they want might have already found another job. You have to lock them in as fast as you can.
[–]gavshaky 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
LVG knows he's not going to miraculously turn this around by the end of next season. He also doesn't want to end his career being sacked. The agreement will already have been discussed, he'll step down "of his own accord" at the end of this season, and Jose will take the helm.
[–]thebsoftelevision 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Nice to know the OP is an insider who knows the inner workings of the club.
[–]ManUToasterDiego Forlan -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
lol wut? If we can't comment on rumors that are as widely spread as Mourinho coming to United wtf are we gonna talk about? Obviously none of us knows shit, that's the basis for every opinion or question post in this sub... at least that's how I've always looked at it...
[–]Launch_a_poo 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
He means about how does he know Woodward went behind LVGs back and hired Mourinho without telling him (I'm 100% sure that didn't happen). There's nothing disrespectful about hiring a new manager
Yeah I know what he meant. OP asked about how the club has "reportedly" gone behind LvG's back to get Mou...
[–]DatGuyRichMartial 12/12. HE'S DONE IT. 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Jose would not come in mid season so how could he possibly be replaced?
[–]NoFearMatthewIsHere 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Yes, I'd say so. I think there should be/needs to have a conversation with LVG about the decision to hire Mou, whether he likes it or not.
[–]wtcchhh 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
This is why the club is a PR disaster. For months there has been nothing but uncertainty and doubt (and shit football matches) with a lot of rumours and speculation about LVG being sacked and Jose/Giggs taking over. The club could have said something, anything! Better than not saying anything at all and looking like fools. Even around Christmas it would have made sense for a change with half the season left. Opposition fans have stopped singing "you're getting sacked in the morning", that's how long the nonsense has carried on for.
[–]mu_37Schneiderlin -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
LVG has disrespected the fans on and off the pitch many times so honestly i couldn't care less i just want him out
[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
and how has he done this? Point a middle finger to everyone? Gyrate his hips and told everyone to suck on it? Wiggle his finger at them and stick his tongue out? Call the fans idiots? Urinate on someone's seat in the stadium?
[–]mu_37Schneiderlin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
on the pitch: the absolute dire and disgraceful 'football" he showed us off:every presser he has done in the last 3-4 months
That's disrespectful? Your definition of disrespectful is rather ridiculous really.
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