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[–]nctr[S] 71ポイント72ポイント  (6子コメント)

BOINC has been around since 2002 and is an extremely cool and underrated project, delievering 10.915 petaFlOPS to science for free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing

Team Gridcoin is already the top team in research done currently in many projects, for example Citizen Science Grid: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/156/team/list/8/0/0 and having cryptocurrency as a motivation will hopefully help to get more people interested in BOINC.

How much each researcher earns in each project can be seen here; http://www.gridresearchcorp.com/gridcoin/?result&t=CPID_Leaderboard

[–]xenophobe51 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was inspired by SETI@home (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), which was the first distributed computing project.

[–]nctr[S] 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

and is still going strong!

Good username for mentioning SETI by the way lol

[–]packersmcmxcv 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does METI have an equivalent? Id love to contribute to beaming a message out

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

yes, SETI is on the whitelist and you will be rewarded Gridcoins for running it!

[–]Open_Thinker [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've been on BOINC for a couple of years now and have heard of GridCoin before, but haven't really looked in depth... Thanks for posting, I guess this will be a weekend research topic for me.

[–]fistfuckmyshitbox 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

I used to do folding@home for years, I'm happy to see more research being done with this method. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but if I can help those more intelligent than I to figure out how to rid the world of cancer, AIDS, etc then I'm happy to help.

[–]lasershurt [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

folding@home

There's a Crypto called "CureCoin" which uses Folding@Home as it's backing, check it out.

[–]dimplan 24ポイント25ポイント  (13子コメント)

But hashing isn't useless, it creates the encryption that makes a decentralized currency possible. How are transactions secured and cleared here?

[–]nctr[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

It is using Proof of stake to secure the system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake

So when you get a reward and add a block to the blockchain is determined by Proof of Stake. But the amount of the reward depends on how much research you do.

[–]dimplan 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

But it seems like there is still hashing for security purposes and some coin rewarded from hashing (in addition to rewards for helping with science projects). There isn't a hashing race, but it still has to happen for encryption right? It seems like you need to rely on coinholders understanding and caring enough to reinvest in the system's security needs, which will get tougher if this gets popular.

[–]nctr[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

There is no hashing done in Proof of Stake and it is not necessary. Proof-of-Stake is well established and there are many cryptocurrencies that use it to secure their transactions, not only Gridcoin and security has never been problematic.

[–]dimplan 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

There is hashing, just less intensive hashing. Someone is still doing security work and being rewarded for that. Your link says as much.

But it also says that science project computing replaces normal mining, which can't be true, since mining is about rewarding security services and you still have a security reward here, apart from the science project assistance. The science assistance is really an add on to a normal coin system, not a replacement of the basic reward-for-security mechanism, as your second paragraph in the infographic implies.

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Yes you are right.

"replaces normal mining" means to say that from the user's perspective the competitive element is who does the most research and not who solves hashes the fastest.

But there is actual still some normal mining going on in the background, you are right about that, so it is not completely replaced but modified.

[–]dimplan [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Ok thanks. So I think the issue you have is this: you're trying to say your coin is redirecting the energy needs of bitcoin to something useful. But really, you've separately just solved bitcoin's dependence on large amounts of energy by changing from Proof or Work to Proof of Stake, and then offered a socially positive way of redirecting the energy savings. But really, that extra energy could just as easily be eliminated from the system. I already see people in this thread being confused about this, and then misunderstanding the purpose of mining in general.

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

No, the competitive element of who earns how many coins comes from researching (solving BOINC tasks). So in order to earn more coins or earn the same amount of coins when more people join, people have to do solve more BOINC work units.

So there is a lot of competition to solve the most work units and a lot of electricity and hardware will be used for that.

In Bitcoin the competition is who can solve hashes the fastest and a lot of electricity and hardware is used for that.

[–]dimplan [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Right but in bitcoin, the hashing competition is fundamentally necessary for the system's very existence. In gridcoin, the system could fully maintain itself (by which I mean remain secure and coherent) without the research competiton. The idea of rewarding research with currency is a normative policy choice you guys are making that isn't strictly necessary. When you equate it with the hashing competition in bitcoin, which is strictly necessary, I think you're causing confusion about how coins work, which is a topic that is already confusing enough for people. For example /u/chaoming potentially seems more unclear about coins now than before.

The correct comparison is bitcoin's proof of work hashing competition with gridcoin's proof of stake system. There is no analogue of research rewards in bitcoin, but your posting is claiming there is.

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There are indeed plenty of coins which are purely Proof of Stake and with no extra energy requriements. Gridcoin is also one of them - you can run Gridcoin without science computing (BOINC) and you will still receive interest via Proof of Stake system.

[–]dimplan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Right, my point is just about explaining this more clearly. Right now the infographic makes it seem like gridcoin found a way to replace security work with research work. Bitcoin etc is very confusing for people, but the key to grasping it is understanding the role of security work.

[–]NateOnTheNet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This keeps being repeated and it's not true. First, Gridcoin uses the same less-intensive hashing that /u/dimplan mentions below. In addition, Gridcoin actually does incorporate your RSA weight into the stake hash algorithm itself.

I posted a more in-depth explanation directly from Rob a while back, for people who understand crypto and want to know more about how Gridcoin works under the hood.

[–]Sirisian [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I've been running this basically 24/7 for a year with the projects Rosetta and GPU Grid. If you ever want to help on a BOINC project then Gridcoin is a nice way to get money back for some of the electricity cost.

Edit: Since this gets brought up. I should point out that with my setup it's about 0.90 USD/day electricity and I get 0.33 USD/day in GRC. That said I used my PC to heat my apartment for the winter. Also I use my PC to play music pretty much 24/7 anyway so it's not turned off in any case. Still just to be completely transparent it's unlikely you'd recoup the cost mining GRC compared to the electricity used.

[–]isoceans [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

however if you don't pay for utilities or electricity it could be a good idea!

[–]Scalextrix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed Gridcoin is not a get rich quick scheme, but you can make a better return by choosing less popular projects. Thats a very cool part of Gridcoin reward mechanism, it helps to incentivise users to point processing to less popular projects.

[–]ChaoMing 38ポイント39ポイント  (18子コメント)

Jesus, finally I see a cryptocurrency where its value actually makes sense to me. I can't fully grasp the whole concept yet, but from where it looks to me, Bitcoin seems to make up its own value depending on what people deem it to be rather than its value as an "IOU a favor" or by its "usefulness" to something or somebody. It's like printing money to me because the way you're gaining bitcoins is solving calculations to confirm the legitimacy of other bitcoin transactions, but that's where the kicker comes in. How did anybody transact something that had no value at first? It's like saying "hey, give me $200 for this bubble of air and I'll make sure no one can say this transaction was fake" and it seemed to snowball from there.

At least with this, you're actually doing something worth value (and invaluable to the progress of science).

[–]rawrnnn [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

The same could be said of any fiat currency, but bitcoin adds value beyond simply being a currency by being anonymous and decentralized and secure.

[–]4ndreee [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You need fiat currency to pay your taxes.

[–]Thefriendlyfaceplant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Exactly and because you can't pay your taxes with gold either that makes gold worthless as well.

[–]Isord [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Most fiat currencies have the weight of law behind them.

[–]apennypacker [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Because most fiat currencies require the weight of law to be effective and safe. Bitcoin can be securely transmitted and trusted without the knowledge of or support from the law.

[–]Doctor_Cornelius [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Trusted to be worth 10% more or less any given day

[–]Thefriendlyfaceplant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Any currency with that volume would have such swings. There's nothing inherent to crypto that gives it an unstable price point.

[–]OffbeatDrizzle [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Bitcoin isn't anonymous, and having it be transmitted without the knowledge or support from the law doesn't give it value. Fiat currencies do not even require the weight of the law to be effective and safe.... it is a means of trading owed value around, regardless of the medium used. We could use oranges to trade, except they're easy to counterfeit. Bitcoin is nothing more than a tech generation fad that's being propelled by a few nutjobs willing to give it value for nothing... it will crumble sooner or later

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A cryptocurrency like Gridcoin won't ever fail.

Socially aware people, will run scientific tasks, and will earn Gridcoin doing so.

As a mather of Fact they have been doing so for more then 10 years.

I do.

[–]o0rino0o 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

How did anybody transact something that had no value at first?

Laszlo Hanyecz started a campaign to try and make them worth something in the real world... by getting people to order pizza for him in exchange for bitcoin.

https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/this-pizza-is-worth-750000

that said, i totally agree with you. i have been using BOINC for years. it is indeed invaluable. :D

[–]ChaoMing 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

by getting people to order pizza for him in exchange for bitcoin.

People baffle me more than they should.

[–]vidar_97 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well that's how money work nowadays. Currency X is worth Y of Currency Z.

[–]nctr[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, just imagine how much computing power would be given to science for free if Gridcoin was as big as Bitcoin.

I terms of Petaflops this would be much bigger than all the top supercomputers combined, already now BOINC as 10k PetaFlops.

[–]novaredditperson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Just don't forget to buy the tag protectors for your bitcoins or they will become worthless."

-Ty

[–]KillerHurdz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And now most of Bitcoin's value relies in its network effect and global infrastructure.

[–]caraka3 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been boincing (mostly climate science) since 2006. gridcoin makes it just that little bit sweeter.

[–]Leoparda 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm interested in this, but still have yet to grasp how bitcoin/cryptocurrency works. Could someone give me a brief ELI5? I guess my main question is, is this using the internet at all times or is it a background thing, as the image suggests, where I could batch upload information afterwards? My internet provider has a data limit per month, so wouldn't want to send myself over that with a huge change in internet usage.

[–]nctr[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

For Gridcoin you need to consider two things seperately:

The cryptocurrency aspect of it, which is based on Proof of Stake. To earn coins the wallet has to be running and the reward you get depends on how much research you do for BOINC.

The second thing is BOINC, which only needs to be on the internet to download and upload tasks, but not all the time.

But with the pool (pool.gridcoin.co) you only do boinc tasks and give them your gridcoin address and it will send gridcoins to you for the tasks you solve, you do not have to keep the wallet running all the time for that. So I think the pool would be a good solution for you.

[–]Leoparda 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks so much for the explanation, I'll check out the pool :)

[–]seeking_hope [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Do I physically solve/complete these takes or does my computer do things automatically?

This sounds like something similar several years ago that a university was requesting use of PS3 (I think?) to be able to run more computations than they could with equipment they physically owned.

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Your computer does all the computations, you do not have to do anything yourself.

[–]knezmilos13 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

This is cool, but why does the installation require fiddling with config files? That's sure to put off a bunch of people, and it seems it could have all been automated easily...

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

If you use the pool, you shouldn't have to do that though?

[–]knezmilos13 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't know, I was just reading this - http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/gridcoin-install.htm

But I think I am going to give up. Seems too complicated. Like:

The best Gridcoin staking set-up you can create is to install the Gridcoin client on a cloud VPS, and run the BOINC client alongside the Gridcoin client but with 'compute' set to 'suspended' and 'networking' set to 'always available', and then run the BOINC client in isolation away from your Gridcoin assets.

... what?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would reccomend using the pool as it is much easier than setting it all up yourself: http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/pool.htm

But yes you are right making it easy to set up is one of the main challenges right now.

[–]easy2kill 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

So what can this currency be used for? Can it be converted into physical paper money?

[–]nctr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what can this currency be used for? Can it be converted into physical paper money?

Yes, it can be exchanged for bitcoins or directly dollar, for example on https://c-cex.com/?p=grc-btc

[–]Scalextrix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you arent in the US then Uphold.com allows you to convert Bitcoin back to many other fiat currencies, so there is a path of Gridcoin to Bitcoin to your local currency.

[–]mtnbkrt22 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh man, where was this a couple years ago when I had a Teraflop running on over 200 computers.

[–]TheDreamerofWorlds [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Is there a way to see the progress of various projects that are being worked on?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Do you mean progress of the individual work units you work on? You see that in the BOINC client?

If you mean scientific progress by BOINC projects, there is a incomplete list in the bottom of http://gridcoin.us/

[–]notable_brevity [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Who decides what science is pursued?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is a whitelist of supported projects: http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/whitelist.htm

This list is voted on by the community (with in-wallet voting)

[–]isoceans [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is what I pictured bitcoin actually was before I read into it more. Similar to what folding at home does. Honestly would it not be better to use all that processing power for something useful instead?

[–]Grippler 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Awesome, definitely going to take a closer look at this!

[–]nctr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

The easiest way to participate is using the pool: pool.gridcoin.co

If there should be problems IRC is the best place to look for help: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:6667/#gridcoin

[–]Tha_Mayor 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I know it's based on the market, but is this worthwhile or do you make pennies per hour

[–]nctr[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Most of the time you will make pretty much the cost of electricity, depending on where you live.

I am definitely not promising anyone to make money mining Gridcoins, but the good thing is that you can do something good (support science) and get back the money for the electricity used.

[–]Grippler 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not looking to make money, but my PC is running on a 100% renewable energy project using solar/wind energy that I'm running my workshop on, and I'm currently generating more power than I can use and/or store. Might as well put the overhead to some good use :)

[–]electricalnerd 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need more people like yourself sir. Could I look at hour your system is set up? I'm currently interesting into going that route. Thanks.

[–]nctr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giving renewable energy that would otherwise be wasted to science? Perfect!

[–]Scalextrix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thats exactly what I do, my solar PV generation runs my BOINC research and I get Gridcoins. Im sure the Gridcoin team wont mind me telling you that you can also claim Solarcoins for your solar PV production.

[–]--CaSSidY-- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi there,

At the moment Gridcoin is still undervalued.

We're striving to become the worlds first ethical-correct coin ever.

Meaning you get paid for doing honest world improving work.

So even if you would get into our coin 'for the money', you would still have to do honest work to earn some.

Or you could go to exchanges and buy honest mined coins

www.POLONIEX.COM , www.c-cex.com , www.bittrex.com

Cheers all :-)

[–]MechanicalEngineEar 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

with bitcoin there is a clear solution that is solved which pays out coins. How does "doing science" keep these objectives clear? who decides which research is worthy of free computing power? what prevents the corruption of a company submitting a huge project which would be worth a huge sum and somehow accepting a false solution from someone to get the payout?

Let's say the currency takes off and is HUGE! that means the cumulative computing power is potentially worth an equally HUGE amount. That could be worth millions or billions or possibly even trillions (in USD of course) in the future. When the currency is that big, how do you decide who gets it?

On the other hand, what happens if computing power limits are shattered and the most complex simulations can be simply run locally housed computers? What then drives the value of this coin? do we farm out the computing power for bizarre studies that are simply trying to find a reason to use the computing power? for example, if we can simulate every cell in a human body throughout a lifetime within seconds, so we just start throwing every chemical compound in ever dosage into humans to get simulations back of what is happening?

Is there any opportunity for for-profit companies to use this reasearch? or will for profit companies just have to create non-for profit sister companies who request specific research which they "share with the public" afterwards which conveniently provides the for-profit company with exactly what they wanted?

In the end, this sounds like a naive dream of someone who loves the idea of science but doesn't realize how the world actually works. Sure, it can survive as a novelty cybercurrency, but I would say it is equally if not more vulnerable to collapse than most traditional currencies, even more so if it became a major currency.

[–]nctr[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

ok you make many points there, I will try to answer each one of them :)

who decides which research is worthy of free computing power?

There is a whitelist on http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/whitelist.htm . Each of these around 30 projects is supported, the whitelist is curated by the community. It is possible to vote within the wallet with your coins and the community decides which projects to have in the whitelist.

Each day 50k coins are produced and evenly distributed among all whitelisted projects. How much you get per project then depends on how many tasks you solve for this project compared to other researchers.

When the currency is that big, how do you decide who gets it?

This will always be decided by the community in a voting process.

On the other hand, what happens if computing power limits are shattered and the most complex simulations can be simply run locally housed computers?

If we are that far that we can easily calculate everything, we live in the singularity, robots can do all we can do and we no longer have to work, so I hope we get there one day but unfortunately it is not close.

Is there any opportunity for for-profit companies to use this reasearch? o

Yes if the community whitelists comercial projects they will be run. There is already one project, Gridcoin Finance, that tries to predict the stock market using the computing power of the Gridcoin network: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/11357-gridcoin-finance-project/

In the end, this sounds like a naive dream of someone who loves the idea of science but doesn't realize how the world actually works.

It is still very small but already gives a lot of computing power to science for free and one can dream :)

[–]MechanicalEngineEar [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

thanks for the feedback on this. It is good to hear that they are working with for profit companies as well to get the most benefit from this processing potential.

Bitcoin, if i remember correctly, would reach a point where coins stopped being given away after the number given tapered off. will this same thing happen here, or is there risk of inflation?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The amount of coins produced per day is always 50k coins, which is right now an inflation rate of around 5%.

But the amount of coins produced will always stay the same, so the inflation rate will get lower with time.

[–]MechanicalEngineEar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i see, so when there are tons of coins, the inflation will be quite minimal, but unless the community grows quickly enough, the mining value could drop to the point where it ins't worth mining except for the charity aspect of it. Bitcoin has struggled with this at times where the electricity cost of some computers that are less efficient is higher than the value they can earn by mining.

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

with bitcoin there is a clear solution that is solved which pays out coins.

Unfortunately that "clear solution" uses a lot of electricity on many wasteful hashes. There is room for improvement and Gridcoin is attempting just that. Sure, Gridcoin is not 100% perfect but it certainly is a "novelty cybercurrency" and from a futurological aspect, that's an achievement by itself already.

[–]errdayimhuzzlin [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Bitcoin hashing is not wasteful as it is used to secure the network. If another method, e.g. Proof-of-stake, is proven to be secure and fair it could be implemented in Bitcoin.

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Gridcoin is Assics resistant zo anybody will be able to keep contributing to the network in the future, unlike Bitcoin.

[–]errdayimhuzzlin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is true that there is a high bar to get started with bitcoin mining (not that normal user would need to mine to make use of the currency).

Now if the reward for doing scientific calculations are even close to paying back the power used to perform those calculations, specialized hardware would still be used, or mining centres would form in places with cheap or free electricity, making it less rewarding for normal users.

So you probably will be better off donating directly to make a supercomputer for scientific research instead of doing it inefficiently via your power bill.

[–]rawrnnn [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Isn't the issue here that a central authority is issuing the currency? Seems to completely undermine the fundamental difference between cryptocurrency and traditional currency.

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

No, there is no central authority issueing the currency.

The information who has done how much research is queried from all nodes independently and the consenus is stored in the blockchain, a so called superblock. According to this information in the blockchain, the rewards are given out when the next block is found.

So unlike foldingcoin or curecoin there is no central authority just distirbuting coins, it all happens in a decentralized way.

[–]JonnyLatte [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Is this information queried from a central source?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This information is queried from the individual BOINC projects, so 30 projects are queried to give the information how much research was done by which user.

This does require trust, but most BOINC projects are from large universities and the community can easily vote to remove a project from the whitelist if there was a security problem or the results look weird.

[–]makelovenotwhale [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The pre-mined cryptocurrency Ripple rewarded users for contributing to BOINC years ago - so the first line of that infographic is incorrect.

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=computing_for_good

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

When did Ripple start doing this?

Gridcoin started in November 2013, so if Ripple did this earlier than that I was wrong.

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ripple team on World Community Grid was created on 08 Nov 2013. so their BOINC-rewarding program has probably started around that date. As far as I know, it has been terminated in May 2014.

[–]iamnotmagritte [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So like bitcoin, is it designed to be deflationary over time? Can't find any info on this.

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, but not as deflationary as Bitcoin to keep people interested in researching. The amount of coins produced per day is currently 50k coins, which is right now an inflation rate of around 5%.

But the amount of coins produced will always stay the same, so the inflation rate will get lower with time. See https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/464-gridcoin-grc/

[–]krack_fox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Thanks for posting this, I've got a PC that's always running and I may just put that to use.

Do you think it would be feasible to setup solo on my own if I've had no prior experience with mining?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's possible but it takes some waiting, I would suggest using the pool.

You can then set up solo-mining anyway.

[–]krack_fox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok cool thanks for the input! Gives me a nice little project for tomorrow!

[–]Criplor [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

How much "money" could someone with a mid range computer and decent internet plan expect to make from this? Also where/how can you use the gridcoins that you generate?

[–]Bokitoman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not sure what mid range is for you, but this is my current earnings with a GTX 770 and i7 2600

http://gridcoin.co/?cpid=67a729ff15af29ce4565354a843846c8

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It always depends on the market, approximately as much as you need electricity, so mining is really not something you can get rich with.

But it's for a good cause so if that's important for you, it's good.

You can sell the coins on crypto-marketplaces for bitcoins or dollar, for example c-cex.com

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Over time, more and more people are aware of Gridcoin.

Thus, value will increase above 'break-even'.

It's a mater of time, just like anything new and revolutionary.

Cheers :)

[–]AtrashiiNoKage [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Anyone know if the grinding is GPU or CPU heavy?

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Its Asic, gpu, cpu , android phone heavy, window, linux, ....

Everyone can contribute, not anything is exlcuded.

Cheers :)

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There are GPU and CPU projects, there is a breakdown by hardware on the whitelist: http://www.gridcoin.us/Guides/whitelist.htm

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gridcoin rewards CPU, GPU and ASIC work equally. You can use all three simultaneously for maximum science output and consequently higher Gridcoin reward.

[–]Scalextrix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There are many projects on the Gridcoin whitelist, most require CPU but some have GPU work. Due to there being less competition on CPU projects these actually tend to give a higher return.

[–]_Myrilian [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

BY THE POWER OF SCIENCE!

Thank you for making such a cool project with such a cool goal :)

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not my project, don't want to take credit for something I did not create :)

The founder of Gridcoin is Rob, he posts only on the main forum though: https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/464-gridcoin-grc/

[–]quote_boat [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Soooo this is like a bitcoin operation but uses your computers like servers to do their own science work?

[–]nctr[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Soooo this is like a bitcoin operation but uses your computers like servers to do their own science work?

from the user's perspective that is basically true

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, as the coin matures we will add more & more whitelisted Gricoin projects to the network.

[–]Scalextrix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Been running BOINC for 10 years, Gridcoin covers my costs and lets me do more good work for science and humanity.

Whether you like Gridcoin or not, please run BOINC on your computer or Android phone.

Thank you.

[–]X-Number [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Yet another virtual currency? OK fuckers, just stop. Bitcoin is all you need.

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And there is a market for maybe 5 computers in the world and 640KB ought to be enough for them?

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Gridcoin is here too stay.

We are making Gridcoin known to all miners.

If you are mining you might as well contribute to science.

Cheers All :)

[–]X-Number [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Unfortunately same with LiteCoin, HibbertCoin, DogeCoin, or any other virtual currency trying to steal bitcoins spotlight. Nice try, still going to use bitcoins as are companies like Overstock.com, etc.

Yea I'm going to stick with bitcoins.

[–]Vortac2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bitcoin investors are sometimes worried other cryptocurrencies will somehow devalue their BTC portfolios. Gridcoin is so different from Bitcoin (and any other Proof-of-Work coins you have mentioned) that such worries are really completely unnecessary. In fact, you can mine Bitcoins and Gridcoins at the same time, on the same equipment (including ASICs) through Bitcoin Utopia BOINC project. And it would help science too. It's a completely different perspective.

[–]--CaSSidY-- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gridcoin isn't stealing anyones spotlight :)

It's creating a spot for it's own, for miners who are socially aware.

Cheers!!

[–]chubbybrother -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I already have 100,000 Gridcoin. This is my retirement. I am literally already retired and doing anything I want for the rest of my life because of Gridcoin. You can have this too!

[–]nctr[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, does not work like this, where can you retire with 1000 dollar?

And it's a very unstable investment, so in general only put money you can afford to lose into cryptocurrency.