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The reason LVG likes Fellaini (self.reddevils)

Capslock_HolmesManchester United が 投稿

And no, it's not going to be a stupid gif or joke.

Fellaini has weaknesses in his game -- his passing is inconsistent, his vision isn't exactly world class, his finishing is often saddening -- but one place where he is good (yes, genuinely) is in bringing down a ball out of defence, controlling it, and laying it off or moving it on to someone in order to transition from defence to attack. This is a huge part of LVG's tactical plan, and it really surprises me that, unless I'm missing something, nobody mentions it when the daily discussions pop-up about how shit Fellaini is. And I don't mean lump it up to him in the box and hope he can knock it down (although that -- disappointingly -- does seem to be the plan b). This is more to do with trying to make a quick transition in order to exploit the fact that the opposing team are out of position. It's just a shame that we seem unable to pull it off, or that how LVG has set the team up isn't working, or...whatever it is that is causing us to be quite bad at playing football.

Before I get loads of stick: I'm not really a fan of him either -- but so many people say they have no idea what LVG sees in him that I thought I ought to mention it.

Anyway, roll on the derby. As you were.

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[–]TheReplacerLegends 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

One positive dose not outweigh all the negatives.

[–]FeezbullGiggs 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

And it's not his fault though is it that the manager wants him to do something but plays him in the team all the time?

[–]TudoorsYoung 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sorry that's just not true. Fellaini has played less minutes than Carrick, schweinsteiger., Schneiderlin and Herrera.

[–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see the link here. I'm just saying that "and his negatives outweigh all of that" isn't his fault when his manager plays him in the team to do something and he does it...

[–]Capslock_HolmesManchester United[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not saying it does or doesn't - just trying to answer a question that I see asked in here multiple times a week.

[–]SG0203 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fellaini is not used properly. He was a nightmare for others when he was in Everton. He is not a technically gifted player and he should not be our first choice midfielder week in and out. He can be a good sub in the 70th minute when we need someone in the box to head balls in and that's it. He is a squad player and nothing more than that.

[–]wisedonkayMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he helps us win a lot of high balls. Plus he chests down long balls better than most United players on his day. We need a brute of a Central Defender to partner with ol' Mike. Daley Blind is too much of a liability at central defence, despite the brilliant job he has done all season. If we get a proper centre back, Fellaini can be used for his nuisance value in the opposition box as we did in the UCL qualifier away at Club Brugge to take the aggregate to 3-1 on the first leg.

[–]monsterm1dget 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why does he keep playing him as a CM then?

[–]labtecozaDeutscher Fußballmeister 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's more the fact that united 'shouldn't' be playing that style of football

[–]wpmkMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP makes a good point. I think he's in there because our defence and two holding midfielders have problems playing it out of the back, especially when under pressure. There's been this tendency where our players are too afraid to show for the ball in tight/dangerous areas or it gets passed side to side with no one taking responsibility. Fellaini takes that pressure away by giving them a safe option to lump it, over the top of a high press.

Watching Barcelona against Arsenal it was beautiful to watch them play it out of their own box in dangerous areas then one/two passes and they're through on goal. What's clear to me is that Busquets always provides an option to defenders and Iniesta, Rakitic, sometimes Neymar and Messi, will come deep to carry the ball out of defence. No one does this at United, most of the time it's passed straight back without taking a touch and looking for the next pass. They play with fear and that's our biggest downfall and LVG or the next manager's greatest challenge IMO.

I would say that since 4-2-3-1 isn't working, we should try 4-3-3 with a DM helps with the responsibility to carry the ball out of defence but I think LVG is asking that of both CMs, unsuccessfully. 4-1-4-1 worked so well for us towards the end of last year that I thought we'd turn to for stability.

I still think LVG should be given a chance for one more year because the only way we can move on from this is to actually come out of this mental block, so the player's can prove to themselves that they have the ability to turn things around. A new manager has a placebo effect in that they think the problem is the manager and not within themselves. Of course this can be used as a catalyst for self belief if things go well but what happens when it doesn't? We'll go through this mental slump again, and we'll change managers again.

Here's hoping we can at least end on a high, otherwise the summer is a long time to dwell on this season's failings. It will eat away at them.