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[–]commutebybike -1ポイント0ポイント  (56子コメント)

These people are allowed to walk around with guns in America.

What a backwards country.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (55子コメント)

What? You know it requires a license and that those open carries are the ones you don't have to worry about, right? They're actually a deterrent for crime. The worst thing on this pic by far is the tail.

[–]commutebybike 7ポイント8ポイント  (49子コメント)

No. You are delusional if you think that.

I carried a gun for my job because I was in an actual war zone. I don't need paranoid gun fondlers doing the same in Starbucks or Safeway because they think foreigners or the government is going to kidnap them. Dude with the tail here is only different from your average mall commando because his displays an additional symptom of his delusion on his butt.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (47子コメント)

Lol I carry guns at my job also. Many of my co-workers have concealed carry to protect themselves and their families. Paranoia? Yeah you're right. There is never any attempted crime victimizing the innocent.

[–]DaTanked 2ポイント3ポイント  (46子コメント)

Just as there is never any open/concealed holder who let's their weapon out of their sight and in to a toddlers hands, or accidently firing off a round showing off the weapon. Or people gunning down fleeing unarmed thieves. It also makes you immune to emotional reactions as well as mental health issues.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (45子コメント)

So because guns can cause accidental death and injury, we should make them illegal? We should also ban every appliance and tool ever made then. As far as your "what if" situations about the mental illness and unattended weapons, how about some hard stats to show how (UN)commonly those happen.

[–]DaTanked 4ポイント5ポイント  (44子コメント)

Yes of course I said we should make them illegal, without actually saying/implying/insinuating we should. I honestly expected this type of defense from a gun owner. You're already full ready to defend yourself against a threat that doesn't exist.

Also, any incident involving a gun is NEVER an accident. You can never have an accident with a deadly weapon, you may not believe it yourself, I have no idea, but most gun owners will agree there is never an accident with a gun.

Appliances aren't used to kill people, tools aren't made to kill people. Guns are DESIGNED to INFLICT serious harm or death. Just because you can use a gun to hammer in a nail doesn't mean it's best suited for that job or it's an acceptable use for it, just as a hammer or a knife isn't the best way to kill someone when you already have a device designed to kill people far more efficiently and effortlessly.

As far as your "what if" situations about the mental illness and unattended weapons, how about some hard stats to show how (UN)commonly those happen.

You can't get stats like that, just like you can't get hard stats to show how often a weapon ISN'T being used incorrectly. Although if you go to /r/news you'll find a few instances of a child shooting his pro 2nd amendment mother in the back while in the vehicle, a 51 year old woman who chased a thief that was escaping through a window in her home, forced a confrontation and then murdered him. Or maybe the story today about the kid that took his grandpas pistol to school because he had an argument with another kid the previous day.

No you're right, we should focus on shit like hammers or knives or vehicles or vending machines because those are the problems.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (19子コメント)

Vehicle accidents are far more common in causing injury and death. If safety is your real concern, of course you should focus on that. It's not your primary concern though. It's about politics for you.

[–]DaTanked 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

That's because the amount of people who own a vehicle are SO much higher than the amount of people who own a gun. That's like saying you shouldn't drive anywhere you should take a plane, because less people have died from a plane crash than a car.

People don't fire off their gun as much as people start their engine, if people fired off their guns as often you would see more fatalities from guns than cars.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (17子コメント)

Ah dodging the blatant fact that vehicles are far more dangerous. More straw men please. The fact is that vehicles cause far more injury and death, but you don't care because you have a politically motivated anti second amendment stance.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Lol for your 2 gun horror stories, I can literally find tens to a hundred of stories where guns were used to prevent crime.

[–]DaTanked 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's just 2 from the 10+ from ONE DAY IN THE NEWS. I am sure you can find tens to a hundred stories where guns were used to prevent crime, and I can go ahead and find tens to hundreds of stories where a gun was used incorrectly.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Based on his extensive independent survey research, in a Duke university publication, Professor Kleck estimates that each year Americans use guns for protection from criminals more than 2.5 million times annually. 7 U.S. Department of Justice victimization surveys show that protective use of a gun lessens the chance that robberies, rapes, and assaults will be successfully completed while also reducing the likelihood of victim injury. Clearly, criminals fear armed citizens.

According to the cdc, 33,630 were killed by firearms. This includes justified/ defense.

Stop spreading falsehoods.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

It doesn't matter that guns are made to kill. The point is that anything is dangerous in the hands of the wrong person. Blaming inanimate objects is silly. Swords are made to kill. You're for sword regulation? What about baseball bat ownership for those who don't play baseball? Bats are commonly used for serious assault. How about combat knives (not kitchen and utility).The fact that I'm a gun owner makes me far more qualified to speak as someone who respects the right to own a firearm. Oh and your "but guns are made to kill" is also a predictable argument. Oh and cause of death stats are easily found. Hint: leading cause isn't guns. Matter of fact, violent crime is higher in places with more gun regulation. That's a fact.

[–]DaTanked 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

No one is blaming guns here, again you're deflecting the issue. Swords are made to kill, do I think there should be regulation on when/where a sword can be taken? You're damn right I am, because why the fuck are you carrying around a dangerous weapon like that? Do you expect to encounter some 14th century assassins on your way to town?

And now you're going to try and talk about bats? You know fists are more commonly used in assaults than bats? Are you trying to say we need regulation on fists? Are you really going to go this far off topic to try and make it sound like bats are even remotely as bad or used in a crime?

The fact that I'm a gun owner makes me far more qualified to speak as someone who respects the right to own a firearm.

No it doesn't AT ALL. Just because you own a gun doesn't mean you're an expert or ANYTHING on guns or safety since you don't need more than half a brain to receive certification to get one. And then once you get it there is nothing to keep you honest.

Oh and your "but guns are made to kill" is also a predictable argument.

Oh really? You mean to say that the statement guns are made to kill is predictable? Wow, you're pretty sharp, that's like saying a key is made to open doors, very good perception. It's a fact that everyone knows, it's used to display the DIFFERENCES between what a car/bat/knife are used for since a lot of gun owners can't tell the difference between a gun and a car.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Of course owning a weapon doesn't make you an expert. Are we just stating the obvious or can you not follow? I said the fact I own guns means I respect responsible ownership. Youre not an owner, so of course you'd care less about ownership. I shouldn't have had to even explain that. You have no idea of my expertise. I work with guns. I pass night quals, day quals, tactical course quals, stress runs..so on every year to keep my job. About my expertise in safety, before we do any range excersize, we run through a very long list of range safety rules. Yes, I am far, far more qualified to speak on firearms than you. It's telling how the more experience and expertise people have with firearms, the more they're pro second amendment. You saying anyone with half a brain can get a "license" once again shows your ignorance, as every state has their own laws. You know..states rights, one of the primary components of our country that leftists hate. In my state, you have to have a certain amount of hours training to get a carry license. Once again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Common sense that people fear what they don't understand. If I want a concealed license, I absolutely should have the right.

It's hilarious people like you think armed security should protect banks and money, but not kids at school. Or are you in favor of guns in schools?

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Oh and your claim guns are made only to kill is false. There are an estimated 65-70 million privately owned handguns in the United States that are used for hunting, target shooting, protection of families and businesses, and other legitimate and lawful purposes.

[–]ZMOT7S 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd rather this "furry" walk around with his weapon than some jarhead that is trained to kill anything he sees moving including innocent people.

[–]Ralaar 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I sadly know a few people that do this. I'm an admin for a open carry/concealed carry group in Wisconsin.

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

You have furries, you mean?

[–]Ralaar 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sadly, two of them have shown up to a few meet and greets. Short story is they don't get any invited anymore. We didn't want that publicity lol

[–]Mungus_Plop[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ha they showed in costume? This is more widespread than I thought.

[–]Ralaar 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

One had a long tail probably couple feet long, other one had furry arms and tail. Second time they got wind of a meeting they had ears. We had to ask them to not come back. I was worried they would show up in a fur suit. These guys didn't even look like they would be the type to wear that shit.