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[–]BradLightningRooster 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

TRP is a personal strategy. A man following it is getting the best outcomes for himself though it is damaging to society as a whole. You don't have to be a wannabe Chad to benefit from their advice. Lifting, reading, and improving your social skills are valuable enough on their own even if you forgo the spinning of plates.

You have to admit that GLO's shirts are pretty cool.

[–]csehszlovakze 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

it is damaging to society as a whole

MGTOW will do that as well when it spreads far enough... just look at Japan

[–]Darth_Sin 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Red Pill are just a group of white knighting pussy begging gynocentrists who managed to learn how to get women wet and fuck them. As such, TRPers are part of the problem.

They are the Cyphers of the Matrix. They know about female hypergamy, 80/20 rule, and what have you but they still choose to pander to the womenfolk by "spinning plates" or whatever it is the term they are using these day. Its pathetic.

You know what is the best courses of action for a man who has unplugged himself ?

1) Exercise and maintain a healthy diet to be fit. Do whatever exercise you want. Lifting is not the only form of viable exercise out there. You want to swim or cycle or do yoga or just jog and do simple sit ups and push ups ? Go for it.

2) Treat your sexual urges as something that is no different than your urge to urinate or defecate. At the end of the day, that's what sexual urges are - biological urges to reproduce. More importantly, deal with your sexual urges in the most efficient way you can. Just jack it off or have a fuckbuddy or use VR porn or use fleshlights or have one night stands. Like I said, its like taking a piss and taking a dump. You don't "spin plates" to take a piss or take a dump do you ? Because that would be stupid. You just go and get the pissing or shitting done and move on with your life.

3) Do whatever they want and whatever that makes them happy. You want to spend your life being good with musical instruments. Go for it. You want to be a motorcycle enthusiast ? Go for it. You want to be good at video games and have YouTube and Twitch channel ? Go for it. You want to study and do research on something ? Go for it.

Personally, TRPs and PUAs are not very different from conventional blue pill white knighting pussy begging men. They still have this strict rulesets complete with jargons and social hierarchy like Alphaness, spinning plates, day game, etc. They still shame men who choose to go their own way or are burned out of TRP and PUA lifestyle just like blue pillers do. The only difference is that they know how women work now.

Bar Bar made an excellent takedown of Game and PUA :- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjd5OLmxcXLAhXCU44KHV1LAwcQtwIIJTAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsNttiuddy6E&usg=AFQjCNGeAR92mStNxn04lEYSa3seb4b9yw&sig2=a59zUoT4KDgHj5BkF09GAQ

Those takedown arguments apply to TRP as well.

[–]ColtsDragoon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are the Cyphers of the Matrix. They know about female hypergamy, 80/20 rule, and what have you but they still choose to pander to the womenfolk by "spinning plates"

this is the best analogy for TRP i have ever heard so please have one upvote good sir.

[–]csehszlovakze 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

is I have never seen a MGTOWER try and sell something

Sandman? :P

[–]palaceposy6706 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is he selling, the concept? He asks for donations, but so do other MGTOW content producers

[–]abandonedthrowaway32 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Welcome to MGTOW!

Very interesting insight, I wish I could upvote you more than once :-(

Its sad to see TRP go that way, it was a better place long long ago that actually used to talk about mens problems and how to counteract/improve them. Now, its pretty much a PUA hugbox like you said.

Both TRP and MGTOW started out as allies and shared the same goal, which is to find ways to improve mens lifestyle, quality of life and to warn other fellow men of legal/marital/financial pitfalls. Now, its almost like they're enemies.

Imo its like a spectrum, you have the bluepill guys who are basically drones programmed from childhood to serve women until they fall over and die.

You have the really desperate type that drink the PUA koolaid and think that lying and swindling women is ok.

Then we have TRP. This group is a mixed bag, as it consists of people who got fucked over, people who never got fucked and people who are sick of being the "nice guy" and want to be a domesticated superbeta "alpha".

The problem with all the above groups is that they're doing something to improve themselves with exercise, education, business etc for something else. In this case... its pussy.

MGTOWs on the other hand, don't give a shit, they also improve themselves for their own sake, and will not try to game any system or bend a knee to anyone. These are the true free men of today. Those who are responsible citizens i.e. pay taxes, work, don't do crimes... but live life on their own terms by engaging in their hobbies, social life and so pn/

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

sick of being the "nice guy" and want to be a domesticated superbeta "alpha".

*Snort*

[–]PrinceofSpades 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure your description of TRP to MGTOW is exactly what seddit was to TRP a few years ago.

Shame to see how quickly things change. At the end of the day, living for yourself, truly, is what attracts women. It doesn't matter what you identify as or whether you care about the fact that it is attracting them or not. It does matter if that's why you're doing it, regardless of what you say, though.

I wish I could stress this enough to every man: it doesn't matter what you identify as or who you are; just chase yourself and your aspirations and live the best life you possibly can. The more time we as a community at large of males who started down any of these roads, be they PUA, TRP, or MGTOW, spend trying to identify exactly what it is we define ourselves as instead of openly taking the good and bad from all of it and shaping ourselves based on that collective of information, the less likely we are to achieve our own goals, whatever they may be.

Really, caring too much about any of this stuff is the exact opposite of what all of it is telling us to go do: just go out and live our lives the best we possibly can while pursuing our happiness as men in a world trying to take it away.

[–]Chev__Chelios 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

living for yourself, truly, is what attracts women

Lived for myself for going on 33 years. Don't attract women...Don't fool yourself, living for yourself doesn't attract women. Living a life of seeking materialistic possessions is what attracts women, nothing more, nothing less. Women are simple creatures, on the level of a raccoon, they love their shiny bobbles.

[–]T0000009 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

he "nice guy" and want to be a domesticated superbeta "alpha".

That's why the punks will never get what they want... You cant fake leadership

[–]mrp_1844 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why you were banned. /s

I would recommend sandman on youtube.

[–]SeriousSquash 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have never seen a MGTOWER try and sell something.

MGTOW should be selling (promoting) bitcoin - the decentralized non-government money. It's much more difficult for the government to steal it from you. If we want to stop supporting the system, we should stop using fiat currencies.

[–]wordjedi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not selling, but promoting any cheap way of staying fit. No, I'm not talking about (just) lifting. That's for TRP. Those guys need a muscular esthetic to hook up. MGTOWs still need to be healthy, and also physical exercise beats back depression for guys here who have been through a hard time with the women in their lives, or are feeling isolated.

Also anything to help them work toward financial independence. There is no MGTOW like financially independent MGTOW.

[–]eatdapoopuu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

MGTOW should be selling (promoting) bitcoin

no it shouldn't. the blockchain is out of control nowadays, and the creator of BtC suggests it's failing

[–]0x48454C4C4F00 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

crypto in general can be useful but I think it would be bad to only have one of them. so maybe spread more the idea instead of the name of one cryptocurrency here.

[–]exit-stage-right2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

MGTOW is about going our OWN WAY! Please do not tell anyone here that they must fix the broken society! they may choose to do so, but having you rant that TRP fascilitate the current problems and that we need to be working towards solutions, is wrong for this Forum! your statement "Hey I worked hard and it worked for me, why can't you make it?", is stating your con-formality beliefs! Here, it is about making an individual path choice! we don't tell people how to live, we provide advice, support and ideas! And for the record, I do not want to work trying to fix society either, but I'm not TRP! Society is definitely broken, but don't ask me to fix it!

[–]Chev__Chelios 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The concept of a "red pill" is not BS, however, applying it to women as psuedo psychologist pick up artists is laughable. The "red pill" is about transcending above such trivialities and seeing the truth of the human condition and how absurd our largely pointless lives have become. This is one of life's hardest concepts to master, and I certainly don't claim to have done so.

Here's a tidbit to get you started: No other species on earth requires working for others at a job to buy shelter or to buy food. Rather, they simply are allowed to exist on their own terms. Are you allowed to do the same?

[–]Sirpedroalejandro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems difficult to know what strategy of coping with this world actually works and ultimately it feels like something every single one of us think about in their lives. See people claim to be enlightened until the next woman they meet.

[–]RationalistFaith1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank God for MGTOW. I could've never gotten into TRP.

The SMV concept is good and useful intrinsically to better one's self, but that group is part of the problem.

Making girls drunk and having sex with them (women are to be blamed too for falling for these guys' shallow qualities).

the last post i submitted that was neutral and redpill, got flagged down for not being about "pussy fucking" etc.

[–]grufx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TRP is nothing but a shadow of its former self and is run by PUAs like a cult at this point. TRP 2.0/PUA and the "blue pill" are 2 halfs of the same coin, ie, gynocentrism.

At least Bluepillers get to enjoy living in denial. "Red pillers" today are told they have to change everything to serve the needs of women, in that if they try hard enough to serve women and play with fire long enough it will magically come to somehow serve themselves.

Even better, the PUAs and failclowns want to inject right wing politics into everything now. Its not surprising the immature mentality of anyone consuming political theater also happens to advocate on behalf of becoming a tool for women. They think they are awake but they are not. They want you to join them and serve the machine in the same way they do, but in addition to that you also have to do as they say and repeat everything they say without disagreement.

MGTOW wants you to go away and be happy. And most here don't give a fuck what you want to believe in, so long as its factual. This camp's scholarly language actually comes from scholars and academics that donate their time for the betterment of all of us. It doesn't come from frauds and charlatans that want to quote people like Schopenhauer or Nietzsche while demanding we do as they say, think what they say we think and buy what they are selling.

[–]RfrankieR 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

As I've said before I find pua to be hypocritical. They spend their time sleeping around & then turn around & blame for being broken sluts. How are they any different ? They are a part of the problem.

[–]DforDeadpool -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

TRP != PUA

PUAs know the society is in a decline sexually. Women fuck around, family is destroyed, people are unhappy, incels shoot up schools. It made worse by imposing the non-realistic dreams of the "ideal love"s which do not exist. PUA support that. Just go open a random PUA video on Youtube. "Don't be judgemental bro, women are people too of course they will sleep around!" or similar powertalk. More women fucking around = More pussy for PUAs.

TRP has a neutral approach to the decline. "Enjoy the decline.". Because, as a few men we can do only a little to prevent or reverse it. Plating is made for this. First you plate women. If they deserve, you upgrade them to be FWBs. If they "level up" again they can be LTRs and you don't LTR up a slut. It's self defense. With a Matrix reference, TRP is like humans who infiltrate the system, and PUAs are like agents. They have similar powers but the intention behind, is different. TRP is more than just getting the stinky pink.

[–]Nevo_Vos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking excellent post. I stopped looking at TRP when I noticed the monetization as well. And, they're fucking obnoxious people.