Trump Hasn’t Called For Violence, But He Should.

Watching the coverage of the violence in Chicago inside and outside of a Donald Trump rally, I am reassured of a thing I’ve known for a long time. There is no hope for peace in America.

Trump Hasn't Called For Violence, But He Should.

Trump Hasn’t Called For Violence, But He Should.

It’s so obvious I almost feel stupid mentioning it. Strangely though, there are still people in this world who think there is some hope for a hyperinclusive mass democracy in which hundreds of millions of people with diverse interests, philosophies, religious, racial, and ethnic backgrounds live under a singular system of government. A system of government which rules over every aspect of their lives, projects its power over the entire planet, recognizes no restrictions on its powers, and bankrupts, imprisons, or murders anyone who dares to defy it.

Even more absurdly – and perhaps they aren’t even worth mentioning, but given the audience of this blog I should briefly note – there are actually people in this world who think we’ll all undergo some mass awakening or “paradigm shift” where we peacefully shrug off the chains of democracy and live in a stateless utopia. To their credit, they are no crazier than your average Democrat, but that’s far from a ringing endorsement of their ideology.

Here is the simple reality we are met with, and it is perhaps the one and only thing left and right should be able to agree on. We cannot peacefully coexist under the same system of government. There may be some legitimate debate about whether any people can live together in peace under any system of government, but there is no room for debate about the American left and the American right living together in peace any longer. We have worldviews that are violently at odds with one another, and for one to compel the other to live under their rule is so inhumane we can expect nothing other than violence as a result. 

For the right, the implication is even more startling. We can surely live without the left, but the left surely cannot live without us. Reality detached, welfare dependent criminal apologists cannot form a functioning society. They need a productive host for their parasitism, and to deny them that host is the equivalent of denying them oxygen. They will do as they have always done – resort to violence for their very survival – and you frankly have to be an idiot to believe anything else. They will never let us separate from them peacefully, because they would all die in our absence.

This is why you see the violent reaction to Donald Trump. When one looks at the overall picture, he’s not even all that extreme on the issues. He is a moderate in all but his tone, but that tone is stirring the growing realization on the right that we are being weakened by an increasing number of parasitic elements in our society, and that those elements need to be stopped by force if we are to survive. That realization is a threat to the survival of the left, and it is the height of folly to expect anything other than violence from them in response.

While not inaccurate to say that Donald Trump has hinted toward violence, he hasn’t actually called for it. “I’d like to punch him in the face” or “In the good old days” is not an instruction or order to attack. It is simply pointing out the fact that, yes, people used to use violence to stop communists from destroying their civilizations, and that we no longer do that. If we want to stop communists from destroying our civilizations, then yes, we are going to have to use violence to stop them. If Donald Trump really wants to “make America great again” he should begin dealing with the reality that his rivals are sending violent criminals to attack his supporters, and instruct his supporters (by proxy if politics necessitate) to stop them by force.

He is right when he says that police can no longer use the force necessary to accomplish this, because dishonest “police accountability activism” – which I am ashamed to say I used to participate in – has tied their hands. Now, enforcing the law, keeping order, and containing threats to society from violent criminals, turns them into social outcasts, brands them as violent racists, ruins their careers, and even sees them imprisoned for doing their jobs.

If violent criminals are going to assault people at a rally for the frontrunner of the Republican presidential primary, and police aren’t going to stop them, then who is? If nobody is going to stop them, then how are we supposed to participate meaningfully in the political process? If we cannot participate meaningfully in the political process, then what recourse are we left with to address our grievances?

There are only two possible answers;

1. We have no recourse. We are to suffer an eternity with no political voice whatsoever while bums and criminals force us to labor for their sustenance. We are to accept an ever increasing burden on our labor, as foreigners are invited in to join in the bounty of our efforts. We are to reduce our own breeding, while we subsidize the breeding of our parasites. We are to endure this – silently – or suffer assault, imprisonment, and death for the heinous crime of supporting a political candidate who would stop it.

2. We stop them by force.

Please, I beg of you, tell me a third scenario. I submit to you that one does not exist, but I genuinely hope to be proven wrong.

 

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  • paendragon

    Note where and how these anti-Trump brownshirt rallies took place, Chris!

    “SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS” = COMMUNIST (CRIMINAL GANGSTER EXTORTIONIST) TROLLS. PERIOD!

    “Social Justice” is the same old communist trope of enforcing equality of outcome, not of opportunity!

    SJW’s are communists trolls – and their nonsensical claims are all only opinionated slander, because there is no fact in the world that will justify their group-might-makes-right stances; that:
    “You have stuff, therefore you stole it (from me)!”

    They’re all about fighting “white privilege” – but that only shows they are
    against property rights, and the human right of free association (to freely associate with the other people one chooses to associate with).

    See, “white privilege” is nothing more or less than how these countries were founded by white people, who had all worked hard to establish their
    properties, and then chose to pass them along to their own children.

    These Johnny-come-latelies show up from other locales, haven’t put in the
    time or effort to establish their own properties or legacies for their children yet, but somehow assert that it’s “unfair!” of other people to have already done it, and so expect those other people to give their hard-earned properties to them, just because they don’t have any.

    It’s nothing more or less than pure old criminal gangster communism:
    “You have stuff you bothered to earn that I didn’t, so YOU OWE ME!”

    Then they take their slander to a new level.

    In stead of daring to find and present evidence of their target groups’ alleged crimes in a class-action suit in a real court of law, they simply form a larger gang of victimologists to take over the government and legislate new “laws” (crimes) to forcibly take what they want from their targets.

    Modern schools only seem to “teach” (abuse students with) victimology, which is extortive slander.

    Schools are supposed to teach students self-reliance, but in stead abuse them with indulgent excuses to remain irresponsibly wrong. Promoting
    “Tolerance” and “Diversity” and how to blame others, in stead of self-reliance, is no more or less than delinquent criminal negligence.

    Abusing children is illegal.

    Worse, if the rumor that government prevents students with crushing loans from declaring bankruptcy is true, it means governments actually subsidize the sedition by inflicting indentured servitude on kids!

    If so: shame on the banks for taking advantage of youthful naivete by inflicting such “loans” on them!

    Bankruptcy should be an option!

    Saying it isn’t means the government somehow got involved to help the banks again at our direct expense!

    Banks should simply have to charge too much for academic nonsense fields which have ZERO chance of gainful future employment!

    I’d love to see market reality mean that “gender studies” would be priced out of existence, and cost students and their oblivious parents far more
    than, say, planning a career in engineering!

    ;-)

    • gokart-mozart

      They’re not brownshirts.

      They’re the Red Front.

      Brown comes next.

      • paendragon

        Because red blood turns brown once it’s dried out?

        Red Shirts never realize they’re in a Star-Trek episode LOL!

        ;-)

  • paendragon

    Leftists have to find victims to throw someone else’s money at to make themselves feel better. But this presumes that all such victimization is inflicted by others and is never a personal choice. Therefore they must also find “victim-oppressors” to slander, oppress, and rob. Otherwise they would have to think and work for them selves (THE HORROR)!

  • paendragon

    The Left (socialism = fearful responsibility-avoiding enforced criminal gangster extortion leading to slavery) is the permanent party of slanderous grievance fight and wants, always choosing to avoid hard work and the painful thinking of planning ahead, to ignore tomorrow’s needs if and when they can borrow or steal somebody else’s money to pay for their immediate wants today, while the right (hopeful, responsibility-accepting individualism) is the temporarily formed defensive party of flight and needs, always ignoring mere wants as its members try to postpone immediate gratifications and work to build a better tomorrow, today. “Rightists” only want to flee from criminal aggressors, to be left alone to literally mind and grow their own businesses. It’s takers vs makers, gang!

    Government is supposed to be an insurance company.

    But imagine if insurance company representatives always went out looking for victims to pay! They’d go broke pretty fast, no?

    Because with unlimited enforced access to everyone else’s money, that’s exactly what these wants-based victimology selling libertine “liberal” criminals do, in order to perpetually self-promote them selves as eternal victims’ champions and good guys!

    AND IT ONLY GETS WORSE:

    In a free-market economy, people vote with their money. But this can quickly lead to forced sales theft and slavery when seditious slanderous victimology excuse-making “idealist” idolater traitors infiltrate government in order to abolish all borders and the local governments which embody one’s rights to free association and to own property!

    Then gangster extortion is empowered by some large “economic voting blocs” where gangs somewhere else can now out-vote you to steal (“seize” / “appropriate” via “Eminent Domain laws” etc) your private propterty and/or inflict forced sales (i.e: obamacare) on you!

    Globalization enshrines group-might-made extortion “rights” over all real live individual human citizens’ rights.

    Globalization will abolish all individual rights to freely associate and own property.

    Imagine what would happen if all the cell-wall “borders” in your body were to dissolve – would such diversity not be cancer?!

    MORE:

    Libtards are idealists who are convinced that the only way to make their own worthless lives at least “feel” like they are worth a dime, is to find some eternal “victims” to champion!

    And in order to do THAT, they must also find some other people to slander as the “oppressors” of those victims!

    So facts mean nada to them!

    And criminals will never admit they are attacking innocent people first, which is why they can be guaranteed to doble-down on their entirely fact-free subjective critical thinking logical fallacy alibis of non-sequitur ad-hominem argumentun tu quoque slanders to excuse all their crimes, to wit: that they are not, in fact, attacking innocent people first, because nobody is ever innocent “Because you all do it, too! Whee!”

    When turned on its face against them, they will insist that there are no crimes not criminals, either, because life is too complex to understand cause and effect, so no free-will criminal intent can ever exist, either – because we’re all really ever only helpless victims of inevitable force, of gangs like “society;” merely predestined products of our predetermined environments and slaves of allah!

    So there, Nyah!

  • paendragon

    “There is no racist like an antiracist: That is because he is obsessed by race, whose actual existence as often as not he denies. He looks at the world through race-tinted spectacles, interprets every event or social phenomenon as a manifestation of racism either implicit or explicit, and in general has the soul of a born inquisitor.

    These entrepreneurs of outrage suffer from a self-inflicted deliberate obtuseness, an obtuseness motivated by their desire to “maintain their rage” – a will to outrage. And this will precedes any object to which it might attach, and many people wait as if in ambush for something to feel angry about, pouncing on it with leopard-like joy (the leopard, so I was told in Africa, is particularly dangerous, for it kills for pleasure and not only for food).

    Outrage supposedly felt on behalf of others is extremely gratifying for more than one reason. It has the appearance of selflessness, and everyone likes to feel that he is selfless.

    It confers moral respectability on the desire to hate or despise something or somebody, a desire never far from the human heart.

    It provides him who feels it the possibility of transcendent purpose, if he decides to work toward the elimination of the supposed cause of his outrage.

    And it may even give him a reasonably lucrative career, if he becomes a professional campaigner or politician: For there is nothing like stirring up resentment for the creation of a political clientele.

    Antiracism is a perfect cause for those with free-floating outrage because it puts them automatically on the side of the angels without any need personally to sacrifice anything.

    You have only to accuse others of it to feel virtuous yourself.

    There is no defense against the accusation: The very attempt at a defense demonstrates the truth of it.

    As a consequence of this, it is a rhetorical weapon of enormous power that can be wielded against anybody who opposes your views. It reduces them to silence.”

    – Theodore Dalrymple –

    Liberal criminals have been told and told, and given all the facts many times, yet keep on insisting that “Islam (‘just like the Bibles’) is contradictory and unclear, therefore it’s only an opinion!”

    Then they say we have no right to self-defense, because defending our selves with violence from islam’s criminal initiatory violence will somehow make us equally as bad as they – as if self defense is as immoral as the criminals’ offensive violence.

    They decry us as being immoral for lumping all muslims together – and yet that’s exactly what islam does, and is in fact islam’s only reason for existing: to lump together and declare eternal violence against all the world’s non-muslims!

    So they say they’re against people who lump together all the members of a different religion and then advocate for the use of violence to attack them, (even in self-defense) but they really only mean they’re against that sort of thing when it’s white people doing it in response to the swarthy “muslim” criminals declarations of intent on doing it first!

    So just ask liberals to clarify:

    “Are you against people who lump all the members of other religions together, and then endorse the use of violence against them all – Yes or No?”

    When they say “Yes, of course!”

    Then ask them: “Is it permissible to use violence to defend one’s self &/or innocent others from such violence-initiating gangs of people – Yes or No?”

    ;-)

    • Doop-doo-doop

      Which book/article is it from?

      • paendragon

        Yep – the top Dalrymple quote is from The Will To Outrage as it was featured online at Taki’s Magazine on 19 December 2015. But Cantwell forbids posting URL links – even to accredit stuff.

        ;-)

    • Gadfly156

      OMG marry me.

      • King James 1611

        Don’t worry hun we have a stake and a fire made just for you Pox on you Amen

  • Mr. Michael

    No more rallies at Universities. They are centers of leftist scum radicals hell bent on the destruction of society. It is good to know Trump wears a bullet proof vest.

  • Pepep Popep

    Any remainder of respect I had for Cruz is gone. I’ll always hate a traitor more than an enemy.

    • http://letterofliberty.blogspot.com/ Anand Venigalla

      Now I have gained more respect for Ben Carson the genius doctor.

      • IRONMANAustralia

        Did Carson eventually endorse Trump?

        I fell asleep during his preamble.

        • http://letterofliberty.blogspot.com/ Anand Venigalla

          He did :)

  • Saturnrules

    Great article.

  • Vlad Prescu

    If he calls for violence, he loses the moral high ground and becomes a bad
    guy in the face of non-leftists. That would be the end of his campaign.

    Cantwell, you’re a moron, and I’m glad you’re not running things for Trump.

    • David Alejandro Chaparro Zambr

      says the leftist.

    • Christopher Cantwell

      Shut up, nigger.

    • UncleVladdi

      Looks like that’s your very first Disqus comment ever, troll!
      Stop demeaning the glorious name of Vlad here in public!

  • Matthew Reece

    It is rare that I find an article that encapsulates my thoughts so well that I question the need to write about something myself, but here is one.

  • lowell houser

    Let’s do a breakdown, shall we? Getting rid of leftists in America would require getting rid of about 75% of jews, 85% of blacks, 70% of latins, 65% of Asians, so about 50 million or so. And then there’s the 50-75 million white leftists. The logistics do not exist for that. It took the Chinese like four decades to accomplish those kind of numbers.

    Now there are creative ways around the problem. We can begin exchanges with other countries, like taking all the right wing white people from the British Commonwealth countries in exchange for as many of our leftists as they want(as refugees). We can bring in all the Afrikaners from South Africa and Zimbabwe. Basically, if you’re white, speak English, and want to own a gun you’re in.

    We can also completely cut off government social safety nets and let the dependent classes starve after cannibalism takes hold among them. Further, voting/political activity can be restricted to something earned through a multi-year sacrifice of some sort like military service where the weak-willed are allowed to walk away whenever they want. Leftists do not have the ability to sacrifice six years of their life for a far away goal because they can’t look that far ahead.

    And finally all muslims and provably illegal latins/Asians can be deported in less than a decade with the current federal ABC organizations retasked for that purpose. Might want to hold off on the Asians though.

    The result won’t be a white nation(I genuinely don’t care), but it will be one with close enough to homogeneous demographics that work and result in a functioning society again. Secession won’t work. Lincoln’s war succeeded in making a America into an actual nation. You need look no further than the reaction to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 to see that.

    But yes, it will require FORCE. It will require either someone like Trump to become a dictator OR for the military to step in and seize power to do all of this. Basically a replay of Chile. The military coup option is one I see happening only in the event of a veteran-heavy militia uprising where the militia can successfully communicate with the military and convince them to join in.

    • Christopher Cantwell

      “It took the Chinese like four decades to accomplish those kind of numbers.”

      And how long before the Maoists among us decide they better get to work on us?

      • UncleVladdi

        Wait – what?! You meant they haven’t already, Chris?!

      • lowell houser

        Oh make no mistake about it, I look at Trump as nothing but a weapon, albeit probably not an effective one. Sending him to Washington, DC is an alternative to sending bullets to Washington, DC. I Have no faith in the man at all on any issue, and think that the bullets would serve us better but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of others that agree so I’ll pull a up a lawn chair, pop some popcorn, and giggle as the Huffington Post reporters flee to their safe spaces and drown in their own tears until the rest of America catches up.

        In the mean time I’ll keep working on my open source firearms/ammunition workshop plans. With any luck it will all end up in one .zip and contain all the technical data to make small quantities of AR18s(Yes, AR18s) from automotive scrap, cartridge brass, small batches of a medium burn rate smokeless powder, and all the tools to produce it all that can’t be cheaply obtained at Harbor Freight, such as a cut-rifling machine/deep hole boring machine for barrels. I need something to do until the uprising.

        • Rogue_Machinist

          Just a suggestion, totally off topic, but if you’re going to add references for the actual tooling in your spec sheets, please use Craftsman or some other supplier of lower cost, high quality machine tools. There’s just way too much variance in the quality of Harbor Freight’s stuff to repeatably produce parts. I’m pretty good with machine work (18 years of on and off experience), but I don’t think I’d trust myself to make interchangeable rifle parts on their machinery.

          • lowell houser

            Oh, then you won’t be interested in ANY of what I have to put out. I’m talking about DiY concrete lathe/mill. Homebrew bullet swage and press, there’s an existing DiY cut-rifling machine design that I have to adapt. Really, this whole project won’t be much use in America, but it WILL be useful in Europe and the rest of the world. The goal is to completely shift the balance of power between state and population by making gun laws useless, and 3D printing can only take you so far.

    • UncleVladdi

      Re: “Might want to hold off on the Asians though, as their higher average intelligence can improve the country..” NO THEY’RE NOT.

      Feral millennial Malcolm Gladwell disproved the myth of Asian IQ!

      ;-)

    • Richard Chiu

      We don’t need purges, as I think you indicate handily by your (wildly understated) estimate of white leftists we’d need to include if we were serious about such a thing.

      We just need to enforce the rule of law, regardless of race or ancestry. No special privileges for anyone to get away with criminal behavior because of what did or didn’t happen to their forebears in America or anywhere else.

      Oh, and badges don’t grant special rights either, so people are going to have to actually use their right to bear arms to contribute to the common defense of their own communities and standards.

      Yes, there are some small fraction of Marxists who will continue to engage in their criminal behavior even when it is clear that it will be met with lethal force. Those people need to be killed, and they will be. But we leave it up to the individuals to decide for themselves, are they serious enough about being leftists to risk committing crimes against people armed and ready to defend their rights? Or do they maybe want to rethink their philosophy in light of the fact that it is no longer a ticket to a free-ride?

  • Martin Baldan

    Overt, widespread violence would weaken the US and leave it vulnerable to foreign intervention. Ancaps should see the state for what it is, the most effective tool available for the organized use of force. Instead of kicking and throwing wrenches at it, focus all efforts into gaining control of it. Then start a calm, subtle but sustained effort to dismantle the leftist power structure. Remove all incentives for hostile immigration and parasitic lifestyles, promote high-IQ immigration from US-friendly European countries. Do all this while keeping as much consensus as possible, sell it to the electorate as fighting crime and honoring the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Let the left show their true colors with their nihilistic, desperate acts of violence, then hit them with the law and use their crimes as justification for the long-term policy change.

  • Louis Charles
    • http://stevevandervelde.wordpress.com/ Steven Vandervelde

      Dude, that is not a third way, but a method for organizing the necessary defensive force, so OK, roger that.

  • Louis Charles

    The object isn’t to “tie the hands of the police”… BUT TO BECOME THE POLICE.

  • Ciaran Reid

    ..

  • David Triana

    Bread And Circuses. The event that took place at the Trump rally in Chicago was staged. By whom I do not know. Could have been Trump himself for all we know. He’s known for manufacturing publicity. Trump blamed Colonel Sanders people for starting the fighting. I did not know he had any supporters left! Just my 2c.

    • northern_confederate

      Sanders doesn’t have real supporters? Have you talked to anyone under 30 recently? Promises of endless free shit attract a lot of support, especially in our declining society. The kids know there is a problem; they have just latched onto the wrong solution.

      The People for Bernie twitter account, whose organization receives campaign funds, admitted involvement in the event.

  • http://stevevandervelde.wordpress.com/ Steven Vandervelde

    One reason I studied history was my love of the American Revolution. The general consensus has always been that a violent revolutionary movement can only succeed when the average person becomes desperate. If the peaceful democratic revolution which Trump represents fails, then the only thing to do is to bide ones time for people to become deperate. That is the purspose of adgitation and organization. That is why the leftist in controle of the FBI at the moment wants to do things such as collecting the identity of anti-goverment people even down the the level of public school children.

    The leftists in charge seem to understand that they must take pre-emptive violent action against discidents to prevent revolution. It is more important than ever that people be roused from their delusional, autistic libertarian thinking, before it is too late.

    The best case senario is that Trump will win and the economy will not crash hard until he has taken office and begun the process of deregulation and cutting internal taxes (import taxes will have little impact durning a crash because people will not be able to afford the frivolous things China makes anyway). When it does crash, which is very likely, because Trump’s moderation will do nothing to slow down a prosess now called “peak debt” from winding down.

    I don’t want to describe a possible worst case senario because it is too umpleasant and would only make me seem like an alarmist. I’d rather write fiction about that, but it is still too depressing to contemplate for too long at a sitting.

    Chris Cantwell has already described that kind of thing previously anyway.

  • IRONMANAustralia

    What happened in Chicago wasn’t a “protest”, it was simply an attempt to prevent the exercise of Free Speech – thinly veiled as a “protest”.

    As I’ve pointed out before, Free Speech isn’t just about the right* of the speaker to stand on a soapbox and spout words into the aether, it’s also about the right of any person(s) who wish to hear what they have to say. Whether that’s a personal conversation between two people, or an author and a million people who buy their books, nobody can justify interfering with that voluntary transaction.

    “Free Speech” would in fact be better described as “Free Communication” or “the right to communicate”.

    This underlying fact is often obfuscated by the oft-seen situation where a so-called “protestor” will simply scream louder than anyone else when in a public place, because no ‘legally’ sensical distinctions can be made about who has a greater claim to a soapbox, and therefore no action can be taken.

    This is not the case when a speaker organises a venue for the purpose of communicating their ideas to those who wish to listen. In that case, a given set of people are exercising their “right to communicate” and anyone interfering is clearly violating their right to speak/hear.

    While historically most people have a natural reluctance to use physical force to protect their “right to communicate”, the tactics of these Leftist scumbags are now using practically requires that right be physically enforced if it is to be exercised at all.

    Historically, the right to speak has been more or less respected – especially in this context, (political rallies and the like – one particularly important use of that right), and many violations we’ve been able to tolerate or deal with in other ways. So our reluctance to take physical action has become culturally entrenched, and understandably it would still ‘feel’ downright disproportionate in THE CURRENT YEAR. We’ve been able to laugh at alarm-pulling feminists showing their true colours, (or should I say colour? RED), laugh at the political damage they are doing to themselves, and – as Ben Shapiro did recently – simply refuse to evacuate during an obviously false fire alarm while continuing to talk over the top of it.

    Now it’s time to see this kind of crap for what it truly and fundamentally is. A criminal violation of your right to communicate, that you have every justification to physically defend.

    KING OF FRANCE
    Or else what follows?

    EXETER
    Bloody constraint;
    Therefore in fierce tempest is Trump coming,
    In thunder and in earthquake, like a Jove,
    That, if requiring fail, he will compel;
    And bids you, in the bowels of the Lord,
    Deliver up the crown, and to take mercy
    On the poor souls for whom this hungry war
    Opens his vasty jaws; and on your head
    Turning the widows’ tears, the orphans’ cries
    The dead men’s blood, the pining maidens groans,
    For husbands, fathers and betrothed lovers,
    That shall be swallow’d in this controversy.
    This is his claim, his threatening and my message

    Henry V – Act II, Scene iv

    *Using the word “right” here as shorthand for “crap other people have no valid justification to stop you doing”. Not going to get into the weeds on that shit.

  • Socialist Worker

    Does Chris do anything productive besides write this column? Who pays him to write this drivel? Productive capitalists? Unlike the Spanish anarchist or their American cousins the IWW he has nothing to do with the labor movement. This guy is an anarchist in the same way Hitler was a socialist.

    I don’t go to Trump rallies nor do I advise anyone to bother or disrupt him or his rallies. After all Trump is a New York Liberal or has he become a Conservative? Didn’t he say Planned Parenthood does good things? We have confidence in our ideas and seek only to gain a hearing for them. Should Chris or others decide to begin a violent campaign against communists or the labor movement we will be prepared for him and his ilk.

    • Christopher Cantwell

      Shut up, nigger.

  • Fl Cracker

    Seems you can dump the anarchist tag, Chris. Doesn’t fit anymore.

    • Christopher Cantwell

      If you think those commie pricks who showed up in Chicago were something other than a government program, then you’re as fucking stupid as they are.

      • Fl Cracker

        That’s not what I was referring to. This is;

        “because dishonest “police accountability activism” – which I am ashamed to say I used to participate in – has tied their hands.”

        Come on. You really believe that crap?

  • Richard Chiu

    “Violence” is a loaded term, due to the long history of association with “violation”. While the explicit definition of “violence” does not require that it be a criminal infringement against the natural rights of another, the ancient implication of violation has never disappeared. This is why I am more fond of calling for the use of retributive force than “violence”, despite the attempts by Marxists to co-opt “retribution” as a concept.

    The fact remains that Trump doesn’t actually want to win, the main purpose his candidacy serves is to illustrate the total bankruptcy of legitimacy (moral and legal) in our political process and leaders. So rather than wanting Trump to call for the use of defensive and retributive force against criminals, I think you should frame it in terms of how to interpret Trump’s inevitable defeat (whether in the convention or in the general election) as such a call.

    Articles of this sort are advancing towards such a call, but of course I do not feel they go far enough. I see no need to defer the defense of my own rights against tyranny (organized or disorganized) nor much need to defer retribution against such violations as I have already suffered at the hands of those who consider themselves beyond the reach of justice. I’m not waiting on Trump, one way or the other, before asserting and exercising my right to kill those who would (and have) assault my own life and freedom.

  • Trygve Gundersen

    wow… way beyond regular lunacy… way way waaayyyy beyond…. :’-( …