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[Interview] Why Seraph did deny Svenskeren's handshake. (self.leagueoflegends)
crosspanda が 6時間前 * 投稿
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[–]NiimitzSmile more thx -6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 5時間前 (22子コメント)
His logic is flawed.
He is basically making Svenskeren the face of in-game racism. If he wanted more focus on in-game racism, his approach is dumb and wrong.
Correct approach would be more in the direction of him giving Svenskeren a hug.
[–]PsychoNovak 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 4時間前* (1子コメント)
Give him a hug? Why?
Hugging it out with a bigot doesn't suddenly not make them a bigot and only shows that you're accepting of their bigotry and forgive them for being an ignorant piece of shit.
But ya know we all gotta be all laughs and smiles and hugs and people definitely can't be upset with someone when they have an opinion on them based on previous actions.
OH THE HORROR!
[–]TheNarraturgist 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
MAKE THE RIFT GR8 AGAIN
FTFY
[–]herfavseason 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
You didn't disprove his logic, you just provided your own approach to the situation. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying he's not wrong either. Don't expect people to react in an overly-positive MLK-like manner over being insulted.
And yes, Sven was effectively the face of in-game racism because he was caught and it was brought into the limelight during S4 worlds. He obviously wasn't the only one, but he was the one who got caught.
[–]sulianjeo -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
"His logic is flawed"
How snobby.
[+]avaislegendary スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
This! Thank you
[+]scattycake スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 5時間前 (16子コメント)
Yeah, for "not making it personal" this could really hurt Svenskeren's career and reputation. People who weren't around for his actual "horrible" racist joke will see this and immediately brand the kid as a pure racist. I don't know about you, but I have definitely told a few racial jokes in my life----but I am not racist at all. Telling a joke doesn't mean you believe in what you say. It's humor.
[–]herfavseason 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
this could really hurt Svenskeren's career and reputation.
You know what hurts careers and reputations? Getting banned during the most important competition of the year for a racist joke.
[–]sulianjeo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Woah. People becoming aware of his past scummy actions? Damn, can't let the public find out about the horrible behaviour of a TSM member. We won't stand for it!
[–]scattycake 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh absolutely, but that was 100% warranted punishment. He deserved it. Branding him as a racist because of the joke is wrong. you can call him an idiot or a dick or whatever, but telling one racist joke does not make a person a racist.
[–]HatredTowardsAmerica 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前 (12子コメント)
You usually don't tell them to strangers though, right?
Both of them are known to be pretty huge douchebags, so I don't really mind.
[–]scattycake 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前 (11子コメント)
I'm not saying the way he made the joke was good, smart, or funny. Seriously, it was a terrible joke with no comedic value except for the fact that he was suspended for it. Using a public name creation as the vessel for that joke was absolutely idiotic. BUT that does not mean he believes in what he is saying. I don't make the jokes to strangers because I have taste. What you're saying is that who he tells the joke to is the thing that makes him a racist, not the content of the joke. So I could make a racist joke to my sister and not be racist. But if I say it to a stranger that means it isn't a joke anymore? My intention still hasn't changed, just my audience. It's still a joke, and not my actual belief.
[–]HatredTowardsAmerica 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前 (10子コメント)
So he's at the very least a douchebag. Why would I care about his career and reputation again?
If he's not a racist then he used racism as a way to be offensive, which is why the audience matters. It wouldn't be offensive towards your sister, but to a person of Asian descent. Truthfully, I don't care what he is... I don't make any definitive lines about who's racist and who's not.
[–]scattycake 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (9子コメント)
Exactly and I don't like that everyone brands him as something from a one-time comment he made. I'm not condoning the use of racial humor. I'm saying using it doesn't make a person racist 100%. I don't get why people jump so fast to conclusions without thinking.
[–]HatredTowardsAmerica -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (8子コメント)
The obvious conclusion is to listen to what he says and intentions of his words, not to make up all possible kinds of defences.
He said these things but did not utter any of you guys' defences, so who's really jumping to conclusions?
[–]scattycake 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
He explicitly apologized after the incident, saying he "overstepped a border" aka he took a joke too far. This means that no matter what anyone here says, he did not intend to hurt anyone. It was a joke, and branding him as a racist for ONE joke he made is ridiculous.
[–]HatredTowardsAmerica -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (6子コメント)
LOL! Yeah I believe that he's sorry that his actions had consequences. He was intentionally offensive towards that one guy. If you can't see that you're beyond delusional. Why are you so keen to make him appear as if he's not offensive?
Hm, after being pressured by Riot and his own team he says sorry, that must be super genuine. Did you hear about how sorry and heartbroken Thorin was about his remarks about Reginald? That really touched me.
[–]scattycake 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
I'm not trying to say that what he said isn't offensive. How do you not get that? My point is that branding him as a RACIST HUMAN is messed up for one joke he made. You can call him an idiot, a douchebag, whatever there. But making one joke does not a racist make. The joke he made was offensive, messed up, and not funny. But that just makes him a terribly stupid comedian. Not a racist soul.
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