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FoodThe story of I become a Vegan without knowledge of its existence (self.india)

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[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud -7ポイント-6ポイント  (36子コメント)

"How different is it from killing a chicken or calf?

because we can. We are the dominant species on the planet we do what we want.

Good for you if you dont eat meat anymore. helps the planet

[–]0v3rk1ll 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

And Aryans are the dominant race so they can kill Jews.

[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they did and then they got killed by others who were more dominant than them. Do whatever you like but then you only have yourself to blame when others more powerful do something similar to us. which is a reason we humans are going towards peaceful coexistence with each other. We dont have to worry about the same with other animals

[–]bananadictatorship -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Comparing the Jews to livestock is a disgusting racist thing to do. Genociding humans is not morally equivalent to eating beef. What a twisted, deluded mentality.

[–]jumpjupiter 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Genociding humans is not morally equivalent to eating beef.

which morals ? Its seems some bitter problems and trying to hard to make illogical statements to prove your point . Its funny how some people think .

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

I always imagine it in a situation where there are only humans left in the planet. Then, if a dominant race eats another one, is it still justifiable?

The premises is that God created us all as equals. We were not supposed to be dominating each other. We have brains to do that unlike other carnivorous animals.

[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I dont really believe in god. Even if he did create every one equal why did he allows other other animals to eat each others. I believe he agrees with eating other animals part.

Also in a doomsday scenrio i am okay with the dominant race eating others

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't believe in God too, in conventional sense. I believe in a 'Force'

We have evolved from the same primitive animals. They can't think like us. May be, when a lion evolve in the future, it may give up killing. But I think it is our time to do that as we have evolved to survive on plant-based foods.

[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I dont see what having brains got to do with giving up non vegetarian food well in a sense its all great giving up non vegetarian food its good in almost every sense but well if you like the taste and what to eat it i am no one to judge

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Brains got to do with that because if we have no brains we just follow our ancestors instead of questioning what is right or what is wrong. When you feel something is wrong, your conscience asks you to stop the wrong thing. It's all in the brain.

[–]bananadictatorship 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is exactly what you are doing, that is exactly what Hindu Indian culture is. Following practices without questioning. In no intelligent developed culture is vegetarianism or veganism considered mainstream or normal. Such a thing is not a coincidence.

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I adhere to my conscience, not religious practices. To give you basics, I am non-vegetarian all my life till now. So, I'm not following something blindly. I'm questioning its morality.

[–]bananadictatorship -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Animals reached a high level of intelligence because they ate meat, which is much more nutritious than vegetation. Predators almost always end up smarter than vegetarian prey animals.

Many essential vitamins for brain development and function literally cannot be found in vegetables, like B12. These deficiencies are nearly universal in societies like India where the dominant culture forces people, especially children, to be malnourished vegetarians because of their twisted terroristic religious beliefs. 50% of India's children are so badly malnourished that they cannot be saved and will live lives of mental retardation and stunting, and you are busy arguing about whether or not a beef cow is worth more than them.

It is why the average IQ is 82 in India against the international average. Meat deprived malnutrition.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

The premises is that God created us all as equals. We were not supposed to be dominating each other.

Your premise is wrong. The only thing all living things are "supposed" to do is to survive at all costs. (Even that is a little inaccurate. Sometimes even the survival of the organism takes a backseat to the real force – the survival of the gene.)

We have brains to do that unlike other carnivorous animals.

Carnivorous animals have brains too. It's just that our brains are big enough to make it possible to delude ourselves with stories of God etc.

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Survival is important. It is not necessary that we abuse others' rights when we have learned to survive in other ways too.

What I mean by brains is the ability to perceive right from wrong. To imagine how it feels to be at the other end.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

What I mean by brains is the ability to perceive right from wrong.

Right and wrong themselves are human constructs. There is nothing real about them.

In one stroke, you have made a moral judgement on about 6-6.5 billion human beings, not to speak of the many more billions of carnivorous animals of different species. Don't you think that is a little vain, and to borrow your vocabulary, a little "wrong"?

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

In one stroke, you have made a moral judgement on about 6-6.5 billion human beings

To my defense, I have proposed a thought, not passed a moral judgement on who is right and who is wrong. Please suggest me what 'vocabulary' of mine have made you feel so. I am glad to correct myself. I mean it because I perused entire article again and I haven't find any passed judgments.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

It is not necessary that we abuse others' rights when we have learned to survive in other ways too.

What I mean by brains is the ability to perceive right from wrong.

With these words you have implied that the people or animals that eat meat don't have the ability to perceive right from wrong.

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thanks for your selective reading and quoting.

It is not necessary that we abuse others' rights when we have learned to survive in other ways too.

It is a proposition against the previous redditor's statement that what living beings do is to survive at all costs.

What I mean by brains is the ability to perceive right from wrong.

This is in reply to previous redditor's statement that all the living being have brains big or small.

I believe that a human has to make his own decision based on his conscience and one shall not pass a judgement on his thoughts. I won't uphold moral policing.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

It doesn't matter why you said those things, as long as you believe in them. Now, you may not say explicitly (even to yourself) that the people or animals that eat meat don't have the ability to perceive right from wrong for fear of being called judgmental, but it is a logical implication of your beliefs.

[–]TharunBoppanaNeither left nor right[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

When is the time you heard me saying I'm right. When I didn't call myself believing in these is right, there don't rise a question of me calling you wrong.

My context is simple. I wrote what I thought to share my thought. I'm not imploring or imposing anyone. I'm not holding my self to be messiah.

[–]nerd_lifter 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Helps the planet . Hahaha . Couldn't be farther from the truth . The meat industry is the top contributer to CO2 emissions http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-co2-from-cars-427843.html

[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

which is why is said people who stop eating meat helps the planet

[–]Everloving 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Speciesist argument right hurrrr

What gave us that right to control other beings? Domination? Ha ha. Get real if you had to fight one on one with most animals on this planet you'd be shredded to pieces.

[–]bhaiyamafkaro<\3 icefraud 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thankful I am not alone for the ultimate showdown.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

helps the planet

Also, keeps prices of meat lower for the rest of us. Thank you, OP.

[–]QwertzWins 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Highers the prices because meat is produced in lower numbers. Less sales-->higher price per item.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Take some introductory lessons in economics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR2255CEhvk

[–]QwertzWins 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They will adjust supply if demand goes down which will result in a long term higher price.

[–]bhiliyamA cliché is the first, last and only refuge of an idiot. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Supply curve generally has a positive slope. Therefore, again generally speaking, decreased demand decreases the equilibrium price. Please read a book on Economics 101.