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[–]babysalmon44 35ポイント36ポイント  (10子コメント)

I saw it yesterday. It's a good movie. I don't take my morals from these types of movies and you shouldn't either.

Getting angry or defiant about types of media that obviously are made to pander to young and oblivious people isn't worth the expenditure of energy. Shake your head and move on with your life. This shit isn't worth it.

[–]cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

I agree. Don't read into these things too much, if you're an adult. But this movie is for kids. Where do you think people get these ideas to begin with? It starts early.

[–]darkstar10 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

it's for kids

that's the scary part. they're brainwashing the children.

[–]prodigy2throw -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Man they're just trying to make money. If you're worried about your kids being influenced by a movie you've failed as a parent. They should be influenced by you.

[–]darkstar10 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

you're forgetting all the kids that have shit parents, the ones who "raise" their kids by tv and video games.

[–]prodigy2throw -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Somebody has to clean washrooms and make my burgers. Won't be my kids I can tell you that much.

The point of red pill is that these blue pill things shouldn't affect YOU or your own anymore. You are above it all. You know the movie is bullshit and should know this without even watching it. You should teach your children it's bullshit and let them know the difference between what's real and what's not.

If you do all this, why the fuck would you care what's happening to other people's kids. Use their ignorance to your advantage. Cards aren't stacked against all men, they're stacked against he men who are oblivious and ignorant.

[–]CQC3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really like that quote "Never attribute to malice what which can be attributed to stupidity", and all the like quotes surrounding that idea.

There isn't some malicious brainwashing occurring, but rather that there's some easy money to be made out of people's need to eat up that feel good shit.

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    [–]SecularNotLiberal 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I'm getting really disgusted by new movies and shows coming out that portray males as bumbling idiots or abusive bad guys. How is this helpful or conducive to healthy relationships? It's not. It's disgusting. Its equally abominable to do it with race, to portray all black characters as stupid watermelon eaters, or to show all Jewish characters as money grubbing misers... if these things happened, people would flip! The movie company would be bankrupted and black balled and shamed. And so it should be but I am appalled that it's apparently "okay" to stereotype male characters always in a negative light.

    [–]phD_in_Random 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The first Ted (with Mark Wahlberg and that foul-mouthed talking teddy bear), it's basically an instructional video teaching man-boys to grow up and be men, sponsored by Apple. I was offended by the premise but Zootopia sounds much worse.

    Mars Needs Moms is another propaganda film, showing the women take over the planet, they literally throw the men in the trash and yet their alien plot revolves around finding a female who can discipline her own child (conveniently forgetting the nuclear family relies on a male breadwinner). For the plot of that one the man of the house is stuck on an extended business trip so for the duration of the film there is no dad.

    Why is it important and why take it seriously? Because I have a son who I am raising to be a strong man. I watch movies with him and explain/point out RP truths and discourage BP behavior. He's 9.50 years and just beginning to reach very young adolescence. It's nice to have a teaching tool like, "remember so-and-so? He treated the girl thus, and see how she responds? That's what makes her feel safe," or what have you.

    If/when we watch Zootopia together it will be through the same RP lens as I actively parent my child.

    [–]prodigy2throw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This should be a post on its own. All this blue pill nonsense is everywhere. You should expect it and prepare your children for it like a proper parent.

    [–]SecularNotLiberal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds like you're doing a great job so far. I believe it's really important to show positive relationships between men and women who are both capable and working together, not someone "parenting" a man-child.

    [–]DforDeadpool 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Let's take the last Star Wars movie. Our soul troper and strong independent womyn are the good guys, while the whitest man in the universe is the evil antagonist. First Order guys didn't have a person of color besides Finn.

    [–]Diabolical_Nuke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not to mention that the only patriarch in that movie gets killed off

    [–]aanarchist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    when i read zootopia i was expecting an article about white women and bestiality

    [–]ur1336 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

    reminds me of the last Star Wars movie.

    This stuff sells like hotcakes. There is huge money to be made cashing in on this trend.

    Get used to it cause it's gonna get worse.

    [–]rundownweather 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I tried to like it for the characters, but meh.

    Finn and Poe are bumbling morons. Poe is allegedly the best pilot in the galaxy, which is kind of an informed ability since i didn't see that many dogfighting scenes. Finn is... a dumbass? He does like 3 useful things in the whole movie, trundling along the rest of the way. They could have switched him with 3PO and the movie would have been the same. He's comic relief.

    Rey i absolutey despise. I get she's supposed to be a strong independent wimmin who don't need no man, but they went overboard. She's antagonising and violent towards all the other characters for the first half of the movie (yay sociopathy), then everybody likes her because reasons. And then it turns out she's a master engineer (which fits since she's been around machines since birth) and she can somehow get the force to bend over and fuck it sideways, which is what really diddles my pickle. Even Luke, supposedly the most powerful motherfucking jedi in the history of ever, had to undergo training before being able to do cool shit, and now you're telling me this brat from the ass end of nowhere can go toe to toe with Darth Vader's grandson and win? Get out of here.

    The Solo family saved the movie, in my opinion. Ren and Han are the only characters JJ dared to give some flaws to, which makes them 250% more interesting than the rest of them combined. Leia is useless as usual.

    [–]S1ayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Don't see it with Star Wars. Finn is bumbling, but he's still actively rebelling against the 1st Order. He eventually goes through enough character development to find the strength to fight.

    I assume the males in Zootopia don't go through any character development at all.

    [–]icelander12[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh they do. They all regress and finally see the shining vaj light of hope.

    [–]MrJugsMcBulge 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not surprised. The critic consensus on Rotten Tomatoes describes Zootopia as having an "inclusive message", which is code for SJW-approved, progressive themes and thinly-veiled liberal social engineering propaganda.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

     

    What a waste of 50 dollars.

     

    It's not just a waste of money you actually funded the Blue Pill criminal enterprise that actively practices the emotional indoctrination that is suppressing human consciousness and creating a world of beta slavery.

    You literally funded a movie that damages people's minds.

    Stop doing that.

    Stop paying for cable tv too. That's expensive and all the information you get from ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN is controlled by the same Blue Pill globalist crowd. It's all bad for you.

    Stop reading or buying the big newspapers they are also owned by Blue Pill globalists.

    The only thing you should focus on is Manosphere sites or get information directly and unflitered through something on youtube. Youtube almost always has the source video of events.

    Example.

    Trump had a bunch of protesters in Chicago that forced him to cancel. You can view raw youtube videos that actually show what really happened. Make up your own mind and remove the "spin" of the Blue Pill.

     

    [–]babayega 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Holy shit $50 for a movie, where do you live?

    [–]franklyforthright -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I heard Deadpool gets pegged in a scene... so glad I stopped watching movies. Fury was the last ok film I saw in awhile

    [–]Foctopus 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I saw the movie, I think you're exaggerating because you're paranoid. Nick Wilde was a strong male character and his character development seemed legitimate to me. The lion mayor. Also how can the sheep mayor be a protagonist? She is literally THE BIG BAD. Honestly the movie has less to do with gender than most Disney movies and is more of an allegory for racial/class discrimination. Judy wasn't the underdog because she was a girl, it's because she was a fucking rabbit trying to police much bigger stronger animals. I get that blue pill is entrenched is most of the media, but even if this movie had as much as you think, you shouldn't get your values from movies anyway. Nor should you allow your children too.

    I can imagine the movie with all of the genders of the characters flipped, and it would have practically been the same aside from the mafia characters (a female mafia would be strange). And really if you can do that with a movie, can you really say it has some kind of gender agenda?

    [–]Ecdre -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think a big point was when the Sheep mayor said they government could do whatever they wanted once the population had an enemy to fear and then be controlled. That was a positive message imo. The whole sex thing was overcast by the "racial" context as you described as well. Funny movie. 8/10

    [–]icelander12[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I saw the movie, I think you're exaggerating because you're paranoid.

    I don't think I'm paranoid.

    I can imagine the movie with all of the genders of the characters flipped, and it would have practically been the same aside from the mafia characters (a female mafia would be strange). And really if you can do that with a movie, can you really say it has some kind of gender agenda?

    I have no idea what you are trying to argue here, but yes

    Also how can the sheep mayor be a protagonist? She is literally THE BIG BAD.

    protagonist

    noun pro·tag·o·nist \prō-ˈta-gə-nist\

    : the main character in a novel, play, movie, etc.

    : an important person who is involved in a competition, conflict, or cause

    [–]CTsunami 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I saw The Little Prince this weekend.

    The main villain is an Alpha Male. Surprise, surprise.

    But there was some truth in it. Like the protagonist's single mom being driven crazy under the weight of the rule of the household. Lol

    [–]2FatStig 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wait till you find out about furries.

    [–]franklyforthright 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bahahaha! The trailer was enough to give me terminal cancer!

    [–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you walk into an elementary school classroom today you will see a half retarded 23yr old girl reading common core lesssons to kids so full of feminist agenda that make zootopia look like a manly tale of bravery.

    Oh, and a thrid of the boys are on amphetamines because they dont act like girls (they are sick)

    [–]prodigy2throw 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Jesus Christ it's a fucking Movie for children. Why is this stuff so concerning to you guys. Make sure you and your own are red pill and that's all you need to worry about.

    This is mindless wasted energy on the wrong thing.

    [–]icelander12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    That makes a lot of sense. I just want to make sure I have this right. So as long as I understand the fundamentals of the concepts that make this sub run, there's no need to be concerned with where it all stems from and how it's being propagated.

    [–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Definitely be concerned about it but don't obsess over it. Blue pill shit is everywhere and will be everywhere for a long time. If you stop and get angry at every little blue pill thing you see you won't get anywhere yourself.

    Be above the shit. At least that's how I look at it. While you were writing this diatribe about how Disney wants to cuck you or whatever, you could've been reading and educating yourself, or talking to women, or improving your social circle.

    This post was just masturbation for other people stuck in anger. Yeah you may get some up votes from the lurkers or newbies on this but you need to focus your efforts elsewhere.

    Don't be a sheep be a lion.

    [–]icelander12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    So there's a 'vent' flair on here for no reason? I'm hardly angry about it. I walked out of the thing laughing about how overt it all was. I am angry that we spent about $80 on the evening for that. I am angry that if a movie was made in the opposite light it'd be shunned and practically banned in this country. The fact that these harmful ideals are nourished and esteemed does make me mad. And I think that's ok.

    [–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You went into a mainstream Disney movie marketed towards kids. How the hell were you expecting anything less than a blue pill shit show?

    Don't go to movies to see red pill theory. Go and watch the movie because it's entertainment.

    There's a reason kfc doesn't give out their secret recipe. Power is in what you know that nobody else knows.

    You know these other beta loser people are fucked. Use that knowledge to your advantage.

    [–]icelander12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I understand what you're saying. Do I have the ability to turn it off, appreciate the animation and the characters, and enjoy the movie at face value? Yes, of course. Did I do that many times over the duration? YES. But that doesn't negate the problem. It's a very real problem. It's crazy. You know that and I know that. I'm just bringing yet another example to the table.

    I could make the argument that, by your logic, you shouldn't even be concerned with my post... shouldn't even be reading or commenting on anything related to the BP media. This is a forum for discussion and analysis, that you evidently enjoy.

    [–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I feel it's important to let people reading your post understand that getting angry over silliness is counterproductive and they should focus their energy elsewhere

    [–]redpillschool[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    You can be red pill and analyze pop culture at the same time. Calm your tits.

    [–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I don't mind analyzing pop culture. More so that no lessons are being learned out of this. It's just misplaced anger for people to circle jerk to.

    I would say the lesson here is to be aware of the world around you and make sure the people you care about don't get sucked into it.

    Mindless rants seem like something tumblrinas and sjw types like to do.

    [–]redpillschool 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is it mindless though? I mean, I would enjoy a broader anaylsis, but I think it's important to take note of how popular media frames sexual dynamics in a way to normalize unnatural behavior. I think that's an important data point to record. I'd love to see an analysis between the marketability of "normalization" media verses media that mirrors reality but does nothing to push the social envelope. I think there's a lot to be discussed here.

    For instance, I've noticed more gay and lesbian couples showing up in tv shows recently, far more than what naturally occurs in real life. If you believed the television, you'd think 50% of the population is gay with how represented they are on tv. This is essentially trying to normalize a behavior.

    [–]prodigy2throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    See this type of analysis would be great to discuss. At the end of the day, I take issue with the frame that these rants are coming in.

    It's one thing to say x movie or tv show is bullshit, feminist sjw propaganda. But it's another to say "hey x movie is all that stuff and here's how you can gain from it or guard yourself and those around you from it".

    Ultimately, the reason, imo, for the blue pill slant in these movies is about profit. Moms take kids to movies and enjoy feminist approved PC storylines. In order to change this, men (more specifically alpha/ red pill men) need to start taking their kids to movies more and take an active role in the media that their children consume. If the sjw narrative no longer makes money, then things will likely change.

    All this would have been great analysis of the movie instead of just "zootopia sucks and it's making everyone blue pill". There's no takeaway from that except to not watch zootopia.

    [–]Icaria25 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The critics are eating it up. What a waste of 50 dollars.

    I can't get myself off the thought that is because they probably got 10 of each of those 50.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The critics are eating it up. What a waste of 50 dollars.

    When the fuck did movies become so expensive?

    [–]icelander12[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That's a low-ball. 4 people on a Friday night: 60 bucks. Want popcorn? Maybe a soda? Looking at $100 night. Bear in mind this was NJ. Probably more expensive than down south or the midwest.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No wonder Netflix is doing so well.

    [–]homelessWOOKIE9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    1. Grocery store Popcorn/Snacks in the purse
    2. Water cup/Nalgene > Soda
    3. Sun-Thu night ticket prices are much cheaper

    [–]homelessWOOKIE9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I loved it. So did my date. Let's not over analyze everything.

    [–]deville05 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I liked the movie. I felt it was feminist in a good way. I feel wonen do nwed empowerment.. Yes in a lot of places in the world they do.. But they need the right kind of empowerment. I basically felt that the predators were men and the prey were the women. If you notice the protagonist was a woman.. Who had dreams and she worked to achieve them through hard work. No handouts. No system favouring her. Thats a good thing. She wants to make a the world a better place without manipulating it. If you notice the antagonist is also a woman whose agenda is to make a utopia without men / with men behind bars (under hwr control). But she is proven wrong and defeated. Even the predetors are never shown in a negative light untill they are under the influence. That was my interpretation..you couod probably replace predetors with minorities and it would make sense toom As far as messages go.. The movie had a good fair message. Nothing that was biased towards one sex. I dont think any movie with a female protagonist is by default a feminist agenda.

    [–]deville05 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You guys should watch your sisters sister... My god its vomit inducing. I got so mad I had to shut down my laptop. The amount of time this guy apologizes is just raging

    [–]1awalt_cupcake 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a fucking movie. It's entertainment. You're having a crisis over one of your puppet shows going off script?

    Go sit in the corner for 30 minutes.

    [–]brandor77 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    While not an RP movie per se, this movie has a very clear Matrix element. The underlying theme of Zootopia is about social control via primal impulses.

    The world has "civilized" to where predators and prey coexist, despite a different hierarchy in primitive days (civilization versus tribalism). The main plot is essentially a false flag attack used to incite fear in the masses against a minority group using this past as a pretext, all in an effort to seize authoritarian control over the populace as a whole.

    Most notably, the movie shows a powerful man torn down by a nefariously deceptive woman that casts an image of innocence to the world until the final reveal. That this got past the feminist filter blows my mind.

    Overall, the movie deals with prejudice on a number of levels, and in my view it really does well. It shows a bully redeemed in his adulthood, a woman qualifying for police requirements through sustained effort rather than lowered standards, and a man removed from a position of visibility due to political correctness.

    Beyond the feel-good theme of tolerance, there is a message to beware of what the powers-that-be say, and that danger often lies behind sweet talk and appearances. Contrary to your assessment, I thought it had good things to say to a <10yo demographic.

    [–]icelander12[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What about to a >30yo demographic?!?!

    ;)

    [–]brandor77 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's a bonus when the kid's movie is mildly entertaining for adults too. You've never known pain until you've watched The Heffalump Movie.

    [–]benczi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you for this. I was planning on going to see this movie with my girlfriend, but now that I know what to expect, I won't make the mistake of funding the blue pill criminal enterprise.

    [–]ag_nuke -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't get so angry at disney or star wars or whatever. I think they are less programming at this point, and more 'reflecting' the state of society.

    Just like it's not racist to admit that blacks have lower IQs, not sexist to admit that women have less physical strength, it's not outraging to admit that most men are sissies, retards or criminals.

    Stop bitching. Step it up and prove them wrong. Prove that you are a force of nature, not a stereotype, if you consider yourself a man.