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HoI4Why is the capital of Canada Toronto in HoI4? (self.paradoxplaza)

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[–]CurlyNippleHairs -318ポイント-317ポイント  (85子コメント)

Because nobody but Canadians care about Canada.

Guys I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just telling the truth. Nobody cares about Canada. Their Prime Minister might as well be the head of my medicine cabinet for all the say he has in world happenings.

[–]Bellyzard2Iron General 131ポイント132ポイント  (19子コメント)

You serious lad? Canada was a fairly important country in WW2, having the capital in the right spot is just basic game design

[–]EagleFly_5Map Staring Expert 102ポイント103ポイント  (13子コメント)

Canada was a big contributor to the success of the (Western) Allies during WW2. To some people, Canada was just a big country with a small army/navy, or even America's Hat, but they've done well! They've contributed much to the Commonwealth and helping the British too! Along with the US funneling goods to Canada pre-1941 (they've sent goods there too, along with the U.K, Republic of China, and later USSR). They had the 4th largest Air Force ( behind the USSR, US, UK) and fifth largest navy in the world after WW2, and the country emerged as a major economic power (help from the US and UK, industrial growth prompted by WW2, and not being bombed out like most of Europe (just like the US). 1,1 million people served the armed forces proudly.

D-Day (capturing Juno beach with the British was one of the most important objectives, along with Utah beach (US), Market Garden (well, at least they've tried), Sicily, Italy, Battle of the Bulge, liberating the Netherlands, the Dieppe Raid, North Africa. The navy helped out with Operation Torch and D-Day, and the Air Force bombed targets (strategic and military value) in Germany., and they've helped the UK with defending Great Britain during the Battle of Britain.

They weren't picking their noses, or declared war to be cool, they've done their part to help the Uk, the commonwealth, and the Western Allies.

[–]TheBulletMagnet 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

On the note of Canada's industrial production; Canada alone built more CMP trucks (>500,000) than the Axis built trucks of any type.

[–]KaiserVonIkapoc 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were too busy breeding horses for their logistics train.

[–]sabasNLMap Staring Expert 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Dutch people are very grateful for the Canadians liberating us. They saved thousands of lives and helped to make sure the German capitulation went relatively peacefully.

[–]KaiserVonIkapoc 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then there's the whole temporarily tuning a medical ward into sovereign Dutch territory so the royal baby would remain Dutch.

[–]NotAzakanAtAll 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL. Also that is legitimately cute and very thoughtful of the Canadians. I love it.

[–]jimintoronto 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

And along the way, Canada had to bury about 7200 of our guys in Holland. So, it was NOT just a matter of marching along the dykes. The fighting was some of the toughest that we did in the entire war.

And remember that the Canadians had been in action in Italy for 19 MONTHS, before D Day happened, and we fought all the way to the end of the war, ending up in Germany, after the battle to cross the Rhine.

The Canadian Army in WW2 was big enough to be able to fight in two theatres in Europe, Italy and France, at the same time. And in the battles in France and Belgium, there were both US and Polish units attached to and under the command of Canadian Army HQ.

Jim B.

[–]sabasNLMap Staring Expert 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

My home town honours a Polish brigade that liberated the city, but it was indeed attached to a Canadian army that liberated the entire southern Netherlands. Though initially met with little resistance as the Germans voluntarily retreated after their defeats in Belgium, combat in the eastern Netherlands was fierce.

Sadly Montgomery didn't want to spend resources towards relieving or liberating the west, which was under the control of one of the strongest German pockets in 1944-45. Tens of thousands starved to death as the little food that was distributed to the area was picked up by German soldiers.

[–]SirkTheMonkeyColonial Governor[M] 63ポイント64ポイント  (6子コメント)

Please don't shitpost. Saying 'lol' whenever someone engages you in discussion is pretty lousy and breaks Reddiquette (your choice between 'Please don't - Be (intentionally) rude at all.' or 'Please don't - Troll.')

Consider this a warning. You will be banned if you keep shitposting.

[–]drunkrabbit99Iron General 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ladies and gents, if you look above you shall find the most downvoted comment on this subredit.

[–]EagleFly_5Map Staring Expert 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've seen worse on this sub, but yeah, his, maybe the worst in 3 months? :P

[–]Bellyzard2Iron General 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nah, I remember one on the thread about paradox making their logo rainbow on their Facebook to celebrate gay rights that has -500

[–]AvroLancasterA King of Europa 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's pretty funny actually.

I didn't downvote that post, but it's incredibly annoying when people try to make the successes of plurality and equality about them (even when they come 10 years later than in the civilised world). I'm always saddened when a company I respect feels the need to virtue signal to the twitter mob.

[–]Bellyzard2Iron General 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, the post wasn't at -500, there was one comment there by someone anti gay crying that they were being marginalized by the Supreme Court decision

[–]AvroLancasterA King of Europa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that's not funny at all then.

At least it was only one.

Edit: I misread the comment.

That's actually just as good.

[–]AnalyidiotIron General 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Canada contributed greatly to both world wars, and the korean war. Canadians have been involved in many conflicts since then too. Saying nobody cares about Canada is not only ignorant of history, but it's offensive to the hundreds of thousands of veterans that gave their lives in defense of freedom and tyranny in the world wars. These are the wars that Canada began to assert it's independence from the United Kingdom. Canadian troops were the most feared by the axis in both world wars. Our troops don't know how to quit.

[–]sabasNLMap Staring Expert -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Canada was way more important than the US in both WW1 and the first half of WW2, but who cares about history right? Your troops saved thousands of innocent civilians from starvation and other horrors of war, and you should be proud of that.

[–]AHedgeKnightRainbow Warrior 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sorry, Canada contributed greatly but it's completely incorrect to say that they contributed more than the US. Maybe militarily, but US supplies basically ran both wars.

[–]sabasNLMap Staring Expert -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

US supplies didn't run WW1, that's complete nonsense. And yes, clearly I was talking about their military contributions, thus you only proved me right.

[–]AHedgeKnightRainbow Warrior 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then tell me how the massive wheat fields of England kept the island sustained, or how the burned out farms of France kept their army fed.

Not to mention, the war wasn't completely decided by the time the US entered WW1. Germany had just finished up on the eastern front, and both sides were rather worn down. That's why German tried making a separate peace with the US so they could keep fighting the French and British.

[–]masterevan 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

After the fall of France, and before the Invasion of the USSR, the Major allied powers went:

UK Canada Australia New Zealand

By wars end, we were the biggest allied partner after the USSR and the USA.

We had the industry, supplies, and military needed to be a big player.

I still say we got shafted by not having a permanent seat at the UNSC.

[–]MinkowskiSpaceTime 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still say we got shafted by not having a permanent seat at the UNSC.

The security council barely does anything, anyways. Having a permanent seat is basically being given the job of taking turns vetoing every measure that is put before the council.

[–]jimintoronto 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

And not only did Canada supply all of it's own small arms, armoured vehicles, trucks, artillery guns, small arms ammunition and artillery rounds...they also built RCN ships, RCAF aircraft of all types, and under the British Air Training Plan, we trained one hundred and thirty thousand Pilots, Navigators, Air Gunners, bomb aimers, and radio operators, from 21 OTHER allied countries.

About half of all the aircrew in RAF Bomber Command were from Canada, PLUS we ran 19 of our own bomber squadrons, and 44 RCAF fighter squadrons.

We put ONE million men into uniform, out of a total male population of 5 million men of military service age. That is 20 percent of the total population of Canada, and about 900 thousand of them were serving outside of Canada. We buried about 43,000 men in foreign graves, and suffered about 135,000 casualties. There are Canadian War Graves in 78 countries, around the world, from WW1 and WW2 and Korea. Add 159 KIA in Afghanistan, too.

JiM b.

[–]TheBulletMagnet 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a correction: Canada did not produce all of it's own firearms and vehicles

To elaborate the main issued rifle before 1943, the SMLE Mk III, was not produced in Canada and the primary submachinegun before Normandy was the US made Thompson. There were also individual units that used foreign made equipment like the Devil's Brigade which used US made Johnson rifles and machine guns and some of the units formed at the tail end of the war were issued Garands.

On the note of vehicles; the vast majority of Canadian produced tanks never saw combat as the Ram which was a a heavily improved M3 of which over 2000 were produced was moved entirely to support roles after Canada was given the rights to produce Shermans. The Grizzly, the improved Canadian Sherman variant, saw only limited production of around 200 as it was quickly realized that the US could produce more than enough Shermans for the Allies so the Canadian factories refocused on producing more CMP trucks of which over 500, 000 were produced in Canada alone. The Ram and Grizzly were primarily used only for training or were converted into SPGs or APCs. Canada also produced over 1,400 Valentines but they were all given to the Soviets.

[–]fuzzydunlots 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now you know, keep our name out your mouth!

[–]Sethex -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Canada ended the war with the third largest navy in the world behind Britain and America but sure, amerisplain me your amazing grasp on history.

[–]Fwendly_MushwoomUnemployed Wizard 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Canada actually ended the war with the 5th largest navy, USSR's and Japan's were bigger. It was believed to be the 3rd largest at the time however due to insufficient data.

[–]EmperorPeriwinkleVictorian Emperor -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ban this sick filth.

[–]CurlyNippleHairs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about that is sick? You seriously can't handle someone saying that Canada is a joke? Grow some balls