>>114082
>1. probably
Is that taking into account the "...in a society where there is no negative moral value on sex with children" part of the sentence? In our society, you would be totally, unavoidably correct, but is that because of the way our society works? It's a well known fact that the main factor inducing trauma in victims of sex abuse is not the sexual act but the manipulation involved, the confusion, abuse of power and authority, and social backlash. Even someone with no knowledge of the subject can understand that if they think about it for a bit; as someone on another site once said, "sex is normal, ruining someone is not".
Personally, my interest in this topic is as a thought experiment more than anything. That is to say I don't expect or really care about, nor have any personal stake in changing consent, but I do like to see people do things rationally, rather than just basing their morality off law.
>2. no and i dont know how anyone could possibly argue otherwise
Then another question:
What are the effects, and why / how do they outweigh autonomy?
Also, from my perspective at least, these are the effects of some situation like that:
Both parties consent to sex. Both have no regrets. When the 12yo reaches age 18 it is found that this happened and the 20yo goes to jail. The girl loses her relationship, the boy loses his life; either literally or from being destroyed by society: no job, no friends, lots of people want to kill you and know who you are.
End result: Unhappy girl, dead or destroyed boy.
This is a positive example gone wrong, and I know the problem is that there are a lot of negative ones that would get through if the law wasn't there. But that's the issue; making both work. Ultimately it should come down to whether it is actually going to achieve anything to ruin the life of someone who didn't really do anything terrible. Currently, there's no way to do that.
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