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QUESTIONWhy do we kill Malthael? (self.diablo3)
AnElls が 1年前 投稿
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[–]Maxxil 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1年前 (37子コメント)
Because a lot of innocent people, who will never commit an evil act or turn to evil will die too. Plus, angels in Diablo aren't exactly good anyway. They are just the enemies of Hell.
[+]AnElls[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 1年前 (36子コメント)
they are good, they are described as such everywhere. they are unable to commit evil. innocents who would die later anyway. why not faster
[–]SockofBadKarmaBadKarma#1670 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1年前 (27子コメント)
They describe themselves as good. That doesn't mean that many of them aren't, as Dean Winchester puts it, dicks with wings. Imperius called a vote for wanton genocide, and Malthael almost carried out the same thing, because they both looked at the Nephalem as a dangerous, inferior race with blood impurities. They're basically sky Nazis.
Just because the agents of the Burning Hells are comically super duper evil doesn't mean that their opponents, wont to spread pro-angel propaganda, are somehow all paragons of virtue and goodness. A decent number of the angels are on humanity's side, but the others have no qualms killing off scores of innocent babies based on racist prejudices they've held onto for centuries. That's pretty fucked up if you ask me.
[–]AnElls[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 1年前 (26子コメント)
but humans have demon blood in them, so they are some sort inferior to the ultimate good that angels represent.
but they have demon blood. no evil in killing them.
[–]SockofBadKarmaBadKarma#1670 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1年前 (25子コメント)
You're a bit fucked up yourself... Switch "angel" and "demon" for "white" and "black". Let's use some pre-70s Mormon theology while we're at ir. According to Joseph Smith, dark-skinned people are descendants of the evil Cain, who killed his brother Abel. Their skin is the Mark of Cain. You're sitting here arguing that white people are inherently always good based on the writings of a white con artist in the 1800s, and all black people are the spawn of evil. Hell, miscegenation is apparently such a great travesty to you that you advocate for the extermination of all non-pure white folks as well, because of some shit some random dude said some other random dude did 5000 years ago.
Genocide =! Good, even in a video game.
[–]AnElls[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1年前 (24子コメント)
it is not a real world, these are angels, beings of goodness and order. killing demonic spawn is never bad, even if you call it genocide. these are not myths like real life but truth
[–]SockofBadKarmaBadKarma#1670 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前* (23子コメント)
Your mom is a good woman. She volunteers at a homeless shelter and adopts abandoned puppies.
Your dad is a serial rapist and murderer who also kidnaps and eats children, and he was caught by the police sodomizing a newborn.
Does your mom's sister have the right to kill you for the sins of your father? Just because she thinks that you could, at some point, commit minor evils? And if harming an innocent is an evil, is the sister not also therefore capable of evil and required to kill herself? If harming an innocent is not an evil, what did your father do wrong?
Now spread that back an eon or so. Your mom and dad are now just really distant ancestors. Actually, your not-dad was pretty alright. It was his family who sucked, but he fought hard against his urges. Now is the sister (who is immortal for some reason) more or less justified for killing you even if you have absolutely no idea that this shit even happened?
[–]AnElls[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1年前 (22子コメント)
killed by other humans? no. killed by the angels in the puryfication of earth, yes. for greater good! there are no innocent peepz in the eyes of angels, even the so called innocent make mistakes unlike angels; that is evil mistakes. why is killing innocent with the potential of evil - evil? it is not evil, not in the universe of diablo where they have demonic blood in themselves. there is not even a tiny bit of evil there. it is simply first strike for the sake of goodness, peace and eternal good
[–]psychointententPsychoIntent#1733 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1年前 (3子コメント)
If you are being 100% serious with these replies, I suggest you seek professional help. Your perception of good and bad are very, very skewed.
[–]AnElls[S] -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1年前 (2子コメント)
why? cos I don't want to chaos to erupt with every corrupted nephalem?
[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (3子コメント)
Can I ask: how old are you?
20
[–]SockofBadKarmaBadKarma#1670 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (13子コメント)
You're either trolling or seriously deluded. Sanctuary's humans are a direct analogue to reality's humans. If killing a baby (or a million of them) because it "could be evil later" is a good thing in Sanctuary, then it's a good thing in reality. If it's not a good thing in reality, then it's not a good thing in Sanctuary. If it's good for them to kill innocents based on perceived evildoing with no objective justification for the perception, then the same thing applies to the Nephalem.
There is no objective justification (because nobody ever met Anu and therefore nobody can accurately claim that he–or more importantly, his spawn–is actually omnibenevolent), therefore the Nephalem has the same basis for murder as the angels do. Malthael was about to kill a bunch of people for no good reason, so you're justified to retaliate. You're just as moral as he is. Actually a lot more so, since you're not holding all angels accountable for the misdeeds of one, because your character isn't a total shitlord.
[–]AnElls[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (12子コメント)
they are not! but why ar eyou speakin bout real life, want some controversy? there are no angels like that in real life, at least not in my religion.
so what if nobody met him, we have all written about him in the canon, no need to meet him to see if he is different. narration, objective narration told us about him. its not a goddamit elder scrolls. here we get lore pieces form the lore absolute texts, not from meetings or biased books.
malthael was doing good, ending eternal conflict, erasing all of the demon spawn. nothing wrong about it, not at all. for some reason you are advocating for keeping alive kind that may bring chaos to the world, well they bring it all the time, mages war etc etc etc. humans are pure evil. Malthael is pure good
[–]emperor000 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (7子コメント)
What? Malthael is an angel himself. He is obviously capable of committing evil. Look at Inarius' behavior. If Angels were truely good they would be altruistic, utterly. They are clearly not altruistic. The closest is Tyrael, but he might not even be altruistic. He might just be a nice guy.
[–]AnElls[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1年前 (6子コメント)
they are altruistic towards each other, good folk for the good folk. inarius is just one bad example, almost fallen angel. who knows if he is not partially or completely demonic now
[–]emperor000 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (5子コメント)
I don't think you understand the mythology surrounding this game. The Angels cannot be demonic (this is supposedly why Malthael did not/could not kill Tyrael when taking the world stone).
And actually I meant Imperius, not Inarius, but Inarius is also a good example. Corrupted, sure, but not demonic.
You are conflating good/evil/angelic/demonic and so on. Rule of thumb: All of these guys are dicks, except for Tyrael. It doesn't matter if they are good, bad, angelic or demonic.
[–]AnElls[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1年前 (4子コメント)
imperius is most probably a wrath now, that is why he opposed his brother's goodness. but still, did not participate in killing angels of Malthael.
Malthael is good!
[–]emperor000 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1年前 (3子コメント)
Malthael is by no meaning of the word good... Imperius probably can't kill Malthael or his angels because neither posses any demonic essence.
[–]AnElls[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1年前 (2子コメント)
ye, cuz Malthael is not evil. he is a good guy and even imperius knows it, he is simply a wrath now and do not like his older and wiser brother to get all the glory for ending eternal conflict. yo know how imperius acted in the wrath cinematic, he is glory hungry. good but still clouded is his judgement
[–]emperor000 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (1子コメント)
What do you mean by "he is a wrath"?
[–]AnElls[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1年前 (0子コメント)
its the prophecy, valor will become wrath. and imperius acts kinda wrathful
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