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[–]NAmember81 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should post this to the MGTOW sub. However, you'll just be preaching to the choir there.

[–]savedarticles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah, I was going to reply, 'welcome to mgtow!' lol.

[–]tb87670 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

The anger phase is strong with this one. I'm perpetually in and out of anger phase myself and I don't think I'll ever leave it, those guys going on how they have become zen and accepted how things are they are simply admitting defeat to the feminist imperative. It's like being told you are going to eat a shit sandwich no matter what. Most of us would be pissed at that idea and then you have those guys telling you to accept and make peace with it because it's gonna happen. Nah. I'll stay pissed about the deal.

I'll admit TRP has taught me to be a happier more productive man in this world we live in today and to ignore the lies and BS from women and feminist propaganda. Before TRP I was already seeing through the liberal leftist BS.

but most of all fuck all you guys who perpetrate the lie that you can better yourself and become part of this top elite tier of men who have it all

Now this part, it's not a lie you can better yourself. You can better yourself. Me, I'm likely going to have money issues the rest of my life. I see posts here about guys saying 'you can get 100k if you wanted to' no I call BS, if anyone can get it through hard work and want then lots more people would already be there. I would like to be there, oh yeah, but I'm not going to bullshit myself and say it WILL happen. But I did get in better shape, I did learn about female psychology and evolved social quirks women have, and I did obtain lots of sex with minimal effort which was one of my initial goals when I first came to TRP. I know now what women are about and that they are not worth near as much in reality as Bluepill indoctrination led me to originally believe. I now prioritize other more important things in life and don't have to give a damn about women anymore. I satisfy my sexual needs and don't have one in my home latching me down trying to take resources or time from me. A few have tried but it's not working anyway. How is that not improvement compared to being a mid-20's virgin?

One thing about this rat race overall is even if I don't make that 100k a year barrier I'm going to try. I hunt a lot. Lots of times on animals you have to finish off will give up when badly wounded when they could continue to struggle. This is very predominant in prey species. Feral cats can have their guts everywhere from a fight with a bobcat and still claw at your boots, prey animals though when wounded lay down and sit there until they go to sleep. It's a sobering thing to witness. I do not want to be prey. If there is fight I'll still try. Life is more valuable than to just give up. If you want to go MGTOW OP then do your thing, become a hermit or whatever makes you happy and focus on that. The only person you have to please is yourself, so go for it.

[–]pirateninj4 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great comment man. Some of the lads in here are on the same ride with the money and the improvement and it's a good contrast to read from those who are in the middle of the group.

[–]aazav 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I'm just not going to feed the ego of American women.

I remember dating chicks in Dallas and it's all divorced chicks who act like they are still in high school.

That mindset is just poison.

There's a reason I don't go back to high school, it's because I am past it.

[–]ShitSandwichOfficial -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Glad I have your vote in 2016!

[–]oxicide 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is your connection to turd sandwich, did turd lose to giant douche?

[–]gardens4lyf 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You make a lot of good points. There isn't room at the top for everyone, by nature. True happiness should be cultivated from inside. I'm not a huge fan of the whole mating dance thing either. That said, I disagree that it isn't worth improving.

I love going to the gym. I love having to work out in grams how much whole-wheat pasta to put in my meal using my calorie plan and myfitnesspal. I love sparring in Muay Thai. I love reading robert greene. I love learning, always have. It was sometime ago that I realised I was still not in the acceptance phase, more the depressed stage. I was grinding but I didn't enjoy it. I realised I had to love the grind, and now I actually do. All the hardship, the adversity, the rejection after rejection. Losing the girl again and again. I span one below average plate in the year and half of redpill living. Not exactly succeeding at all this in terms of women. But fuck it I love my life anyway. You gotta do this for you, because you love you, because this is life and this is all that there is. If you wanna whine about the system that's cool. I would like to improve the system with time but first I gotta do me.

TL;DR: don't be a negative Nancy OP, love yourself, love the grind, don't do it because you expect a reward (like lots of pussy at the end of the self-improvement rainbow). No, do it for you because you genuinely enjoy it and you realise this is all that there is now and you can either suck it up and PLAY THE FUCKING GAME or you can whine/complain instead :/ what's it gonna be? Also: travel mate, GTFO of America. I'm leaving the UK as soon as I can. Go have some fun adventures in foreign countries, I think you'll enjoy seeing some places other than america

[–]SarsaparillaCorona 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have you considered moving to another country or doing something else? I promise you the women you seek are out there, I know because I've met them.

[–]Tie5o11 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think this is the answer. Try Southeast Asia or Eastern Europe. I think emigration from men is one way to turn the dynamic around. If men of date-able and marriageable age leave this country, not only do they do better abroad, but the demographic changes improve the situation domestically.

[–]SarsaparillaCorona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, the age of staying in your country your entire life is over, I'll be living in another country by the time I'm 30, no doubt.

[–]sexmachine9000 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Understand though that going to the gym for years in a row, disciplining yourself by eating right, getting a high paying job and educating yourself isn't enough, I know personally as I've done all four.

Damn son if you did all those things and you still failed, you must have a really bad mug. Seriously, even fat ugly old men get laid if they have a high paying job. It is like your disease became immune to the redpill antibiotic.

[–]Knowmadik 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anger phase, and that's ok brother. You've got to figure out what's best for you. Might be that you're inclined to go MGTOW, to each their own. If you can't be alpha, at least don't be beta.

[–]IllusionDestroyer666 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So now that you're no longer "angry", you can accept your worthlessness and how you have to invest sooo much time working on yourself just for a chance at a vagina whilst women bat you aside like you are garbage. You sound like a monkey that has accepted it's lower status in society rather than somebody I'd like to meet that wishes to rise above the bullshit. Keep humiliating yourself you weak little peon.

[–]revtheracecar 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is called the black pill.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure that cucks feed their wives this pill often

[–]st-pitr 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

i agree with you. roosh wrote very similar thing some time ago

http://www.rooshv.com/men-are-nothing-more-than-clowns-to-the-modern-woman

[–]IllusionDestroyer666 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

TRP itself still focuses all too much on women. Men should ignore women completely and build their life up instead, if they want to preserve their dignity. Getting rejected even once should be an absolute insult. Do you think a billionaire, actor or dictator would just take that shit? Too much beta garbage on here clowning around for a pussy hole. If you're not an alpha that gets courted by women and not the other way around then you are still truly a little BP beta faggit in my book. Spend your time building something greater. Then focus on pussy when it fights for your attention when you're top dog.

[–]new_alpha 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The objective of men's life is to reproduce and try to get as much hot women they can get. It's testosterone, it's running in your veins, and no matter how much you tell yourself that you just don't care about girls anymore it's still going to piss you off because you want that hot ass that just walked past you. So you keep trying, trying and trying until you die, because it is in your veins and you can't get rid of it.

That's the reality for us men, we are caged in a constant fight for pussy, I don't even say validation but pussy, sex. We cannot simply accept it and just ignore women and live without sex.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

getting rejected should be an insult

Even the top guys get rejected, but anyway people are rejected from things all the time. Jobs, loans, invitations out. Are you saying you can't handle some rejection? Just brush it off and keep moving. Even tucker max went home with his hand sometimes pre-what he is now. So how are you going to get into that top group? Plus it depends on your age.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think I would have written something very similar four years ago when I was 21. So I understand this and to a certain degree agree.

I remember being at the gym working my ass off and looking around and realizing that the women there were only putting in 25% of my effort tops. What's more is that every skinny fat sorrorstitute thinks herself entitled to a top 10% musclegod engineer/lawyer/doctor.

I get it I really do.

But honestly if you don't like it move to Thailand and play a different game with different rules. Otherwise your kind of a whiney bitch.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP is staring back into the abyss of humanity behind him. Can't do that. Energy/mindset is too valuable and vulnerable to lock your focus onto the dark underbelly. Got to refirect the gaze upwards and keep moving lest you fall back into the abyss.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really want to know how old OP is, and what his game is like.

[–]tylerbronze 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then the US (and the west) is not for you. neither the redpill, to some extent, I think you're better of with MGTOW.

and to add something, most of us here, in TRP, dont workout and do all that only to "please women". if somehow women started being exclusively attracted to fat men, we will still hit the gym, if women started getting exclusively attracted to losers who play video games all day, we will still strive to succeed with our careers/life.

getting pussy is a byproduct, but not the goal. remember that.

now women can think that we're "dancing and jumping" for them all they want, no one gives a shit what they think.

[–]Spiral-knight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want to add that there is precious little, if any solace to be found outside "The West" The issues may be a bit different but there is no escaping human nature in the modern age. There is no Red Pill promise land.

I have nothing to add to this conversation.

[–]TheEnglishman28 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read every word. I love a good rant, it is the most catharic thing there is other than lifting weights or punching a bag.

[–]NaughtyFred 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

After a year of trp I've come to the conclusion that...

Omega: Gets no shit sandwich, but is surrounded with the stink of others shit sandwiches, and kinda wants one of his own.

Beta: Gets a big shit sandwich, and has to pay for it.

Alpha: Gets a shit sandwich for free, it's smaller and sugar coated, but it's still a shit sandwich.

It is what it is.

[–]ShitSandwichOfficial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad I have your vote in 2016!

[–]AOF_Semiramis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

With the way you are now,your more fit to be MGTOW.And that's ok,nothing wrong with that especially since escorts are available.(To be exact,i'm MGTOW myself but i still frequent this sub more because of Protopill,Uncle Vasi & other Corporate-related stuff since both MGTOWs+TRPs can use em.)

Your leagues more awesome than a beta cuck if your MGTOW.

That said,now that you know how bs it is,either learn the game about exploting the peacock dance(TRP),or just say screw you all,i have escorts +alot of cash to do whatever the fuck i want(MGTOW).

Both paths are awesome.

[–]crimsonpowder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel everything you've said here. I've gone through it. At some point I simply accepted that women were a waste of time and decided to focus on myself. I became amazing at a few things and women started getting interested. I'm not saying the same will happen to you; no one is entitled to anything in the SMP.

I think your main problem is you're defining yourself based on how successful you are with women. Don't do that--their groupthink doesn't know how to evaluate something, especially when it's you going outside current social norms and refusing to peacock. It's stupid but that's the way it is right now.

Given that western culture is such a debacle right now and we're seeing people's true, feral nature, everyone here should be affirmed in the fact that morality with regard to our dealings with the world is but a flimsy veneer used only to validate oneself. In short: do not be afraid of putting yourself first at the expense of others.

[–]frankiecc 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go abroad.

Take a pay cut.

Do it.

The West is a waste of time.

[–]thesias 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

On some days, I can totally relate. It can be tough, and at least you're setting standards for yourself.

I imagine you'd be able to court a landwhale or two if it wasn't for self esteem?

I decided to not prioritise flashing my plumage to women and focus on inner contentment. It's a lot more consistent that way.

[–]yomo86 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dude. You are a jackpot. Ripped. 6-figures. Educated. Read those again. Do you recognize something?

All these attributes are external. You need - and you post is proof of that - I will not say game, but an inner attitude. Be a zen master when it comes to woman or a machiavllian with options.

Is your life really all about some wet hole which cannot control its primal instincts?

The life of a woman is all about hard alpha dick better alpha dick with money.

There is a post on TRP called: be the skittles man. This is the right one for you.

Remember: A woman is the cherry on your cake but damn the cake is still fucking delicious without the cherry.

[–]1mrust 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The skittles man refers to an old Roissy post (Chateau Heartiste). Minimal effort for maximal results.

Advice for the OP: get out of the bar scene, put less effort into each individual approach, but do more of them. Filter girls aggressively; you haven't mastered outcome independence.

[–]Jax77789 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No offense mate but if you feel the need to peacock it means you have yet to internalize that YOU are the prize.

[–]Bosco888888 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well the marketplace disagrees. You can delude yourself into thinking you are the prize all you like but if nobody wants it then I'm afraid you're a shitty prize.

[–]therellikofthenight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're depending on Tinderellas at a bar for validation, you're gonna be disappointed. Most of these women in bars get more sex than youre ever gonna know. And they can get more anytime they want. How do you expect them to have an appreciation for any man unless he's famous?

[–]SmilingWatermelon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is justified in his rage. He sounds like he has done everything we preach to no avail.

Move countries OP. If it ain't working here, it'll work elsewhere. Change venues. Go out and explore life. Western women are a complete waste of time.

Im not a top dog yet, but when I do become one I won't have any remorse for these women that have used and betrayed my better nature. Ill only do what's best for me, you should too.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is the difference between picking up some cunt from a bar or somewhere else and taking them home and fucking them, or paying some whore $200 for a fuck?

Is that how much it costs in the US now? I've never used a prostitute but I know that they are much cheaper where I live (Thailand). For me, I gave up on white women years ago and now prefer Asians in general--Koreans, Japanese, Thai, and Vietnamese specifically.

Thai hookers or bar girls can be had for as little as 700 Thai Baht or US $20 for a short time session. That's 30 minutes of fuck 'em and chuck 'em, Pattaya style. Personally I've never done it. I actually enjoy relationships. But I understand guys that are finished with American women and need an out. Here is your out, if you are ok with Asian birds.

Here's the mindfuck: even whores here will try to play games and act like they are "choosing" you. It's funny. They can't help but be the women they are. It's in their fuckin' DNA. On the rare occasion I go out for a drink at a Bangkok go-go bar I get free lap dances and cuddle time and I don't give them anything. I don't buy them a drink, I don't bar fine them. I get a little attention and then tell them no thanks I go now. It's my power over them. They are practically begging me to take them to the nearest hotel because I am tall, handsome, in great shape, nice smile, and puud passa Thai nit-noi. I reject them and then chuckle when the 60 year old fat, smelly guys with wallets walk in to choose from the meat on stage.

I digress. Get what you want in life. If you have to pay for it, pay for it, but come to a cheaper place like Thailand where it's cheaper to pay for it. You won't be judged harshly out here. Just don't wallow in misery in the US when you have options. Get your passport and start exploring. You have ONE life.

[–]PantsonFire1234 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women annoy the fuck out of me sometimes. And yes I look down on most of them. Take few of them seriously. When I date one I don't bother playing fair. But at the end of the day I enjoy my life, my friends and family and yes the presence of a woman.

But that is all. I enjoy them like I would enjoy a good movie or good meal. When it's done I walk out. Women pick me or they don't and I honestly don't care what reasons got them in my bed.

If you don't overvalue something then you won't resent it in it's absence. Get them of the pedestal and de-prioritize the bunch. Next time you won't get so angry when one of them disappoints you.

Women are disappointing more often than not. And when they aren't they will. Until you find that special unicorn snowflake sex robot. That one will be worth every penny.

[–]Relevantex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So go out there guys, fucking peacock with the best of them! Put on your best displays for the goddess American females to pick you out and choose you, may you guys impress them all with your fancy tales of better days, fancy clothes, pretty hair styles, nice cologne and cool pictures on your fancy phones. Good luck impressing the average American fuck-tard princess, and good luck having a physical human being attempting to compete with the idea of dozens of chads waiting around the corner to bed them. Newsflash, you can't.

Truer words were never spoken. All the "be attractive, don't be unattractive" pics on Tinder in a suit, on a beach, on a tiger, etc. The aloof, DGAF attitude when asking them out. The cocky-funny and amused mastery acts plus kino on the date. The delicate balance between aggressiveness and indifference to break through LMR. At each stage there's a different set of prerequisites and/or skills involved, and no matter how good you look or well you do, there's never a guarantee. It's all a game. If you want to get laid, you have to play it and perform: http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/23/the-burden-of-performance/

It can be demeaning, ego shattering, and getting rejected more often than not sucks. But if we want to get our dicks wet we have no choice in the matter. The hope is that if we keep doing it enough that we'll get good at it - that it becomes second nature. By that time, maybe there will be enough enjoyable moments to make all the shitty ones worth it.

[–]Rebirth1337 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congratulations, you've been upgraded to MGTOW - TRP's final form. Everything you said is true. People on TRP are mindless gym bros who are selfish pricks. They only care about screwing fat chicks and coming on here and bragging how they snagged three HB27s bro. They don't give a shit about their cultural identity, their heritage falling apart, their country ripping apart, their mothers and daughters being brainwashed by the rootless cosmopolitan globalists who control Americas media and the board seats of every major corporation. They don't give a shit about diversity being jammed down our throats every second of every day. They don't give a shit that Americas meritocracy is dead. There are so many things wrong with our country that we need to unite and fix them. Women in our country need a collective slap to the face. These dudes want to kiss their feet while claiming they aren't giving them any validation. Hahahaha, what a farce TRP is. MGTOW is the way to go.

[–]IllusionDestroyer666 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take your money out of the banking system to crash it all. Stop feeding the beast.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

 

The other day I was attempting to engage a woman at a bar and I noticed she was on tinder and had probably a couple dozen conversations occurring with men at once. She gave me one word, I'm-slighty-annoyed-but-will-tolerate-your-presence responses so I stopped trying to speak with her at all. But that is a microcosm of the modern woman to me.

Who chose the timing?

You do... you approached based on your own interest at the moment the urge struck.

But she was distracted.

That's the true error... you didn't read the situation correctly.

Now let's imagine you did this differently. Let's imagine you simply realized her mind was off in fantasy land and you simply ignored her. Ten minutes later she has decided there is nothing on the phone to look at as all the drug effect of seeking has run out and she didn't find anything.

Now she is bored.

Okay, well, now is when you swoop in and lead her in your dance of conversation where you lead and she follows she actually likes it.

Things start to go well... this lost puppy is now following you.

Rather that playing the fool you become the master... but it all has to do with skilled Game.

Timing is everything and in some situations you just don't get a clean shot.

Approaching should be done when your intuition says it's the right time.

Sometimes you are better off seeking other targets.

 

[–]SolarPoweredSauna 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For all the talk of AWALT, Hypergamy, and entitlement, there is very little discussion about how these are tendencies and not inevitabilities. Some women have been raised since birth to suppress and control these urges.

You just have to be discerning and learn to screen for women who are loyal, supportive, and dedicated to their man.

[–]EphemeralTraveler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You remind me of Elliot Rodgers, the dude who was a 21 year old virgin and mad at the world because girls wouldn't fuck him. So he shot and murdered several girls and himself. You're speaking of the doctrine of absurdism. Like all walks of life, we interpret life and our purpose of life differently and uniquely. Like the matrix, I see the women in red, and you see it as code, she is not a women to you, but to me she is a women, and that is all that matters- our perception. It sucks, because life is not fair, and you are getting the short end of the stick. I for one, am happy to peacock with fellow men to court women, it's fun! Losing or wining, it's so much fun! I got dumped yesterday, and I'm happy. I get to experience the single life rollercoaster again, going on dates, talking to that cute blonde you see in line. Ah, man, so many things to be happy about in this world, and you're upset because you can't get a girl to stay by your side. Your thoughts are detrimental to your health, I suggest you seek counseling for these thoughts.

Also you keep speaking about American women, it's time for a change of scenery, my friend. Time to travel! Bon Voyage! Women in Asia love strong, educated, rich, men. If these "American girls" aren't sucking your cock, then those chicks will! Trust me. I've done it as well.

[–]Adolf_ghandi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then quit the shit that you don't like and do stuff you enjoy. Is it that hard?

But getting in shape is ultimately a very decent investment in your personal health. For some even mental health. You should consider that.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So OP how old are you? Can you give me an example of some of the game you spit? Do you know how to relax and just let go?

[–]maxrp -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Life gets easier once you accept it and learn the peacock dance.

Or you can be a caged up Lion with no access to women.

Choose wisely because your anger phase is leading down a dark path.

[–]mmmfritz -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously what the fuck is with all this elitist superior intelligence bullshit. Don't you think many of these women know the game. They not only know the game but they're killing it. They're killing it and you're just pissed off and jealous.

Just be happy for them. Happy that they're doing their thing, even though it's not the best, and even though it's a step in the wrong direcrion, and just be happy that you can share this wonderful thing together, the human condition.

True equanimity is a panacea to all this personal development. All that anger bullshit just makes the ego worse.

[–]2IliadsTangent -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Older women were no different Hoss.

OP; look at it this way. Had you been born 30 years ago you'd never have known any of this until after you married a woman and embraced the complications thereof. Guys tend to lionize the past somewhat , without realizing that it too was injustice against men.

Females haven't changed much. The Tinderellas you see now are no different then the older "nice" women of yore. Difference was the 1960s young woman was taught to keep her mouth shut about the things 2016 young women openly brag about.

Practical example of what I mean. I flew back home to see my grandfathers funeral years back.I find out he was the 1960s Chad ; I wound up living the song "Papa was a Rolling Stone" as folks I'd never heard of before at the funeral identified themselves as being related to me via an affair during the Marriage 1.0 years.

It was funny seeing the female angst about his actions, both knowing what I know now and being a cocksman myself today. See he didn't have a choice- when he banged my grandma as a teenager and she came up pregnant he married her. That was it . No separation, no CS and split of custody, no court case, no plan B. He had to march her down the aisle for better or worse.

We men don't have that millstone.We aren't forced to wife up a girl just because we had sex with her. We aren't forced to raise kids which may or may not be ours. We aren't forced to marry and then get shamed for being "dogs" because we act on what other women want us for. We aren't forced to get married to some female Ma and Pa picked out for us.

We can decide whether to jump in the game or walk. We can decide using data and facts who , the what, the where, and so on to maximize our reproductive advantages even in the depths of this sinking matriarchy.

In short , we have options today men before us could only dream of . Including just walking away from the whole shebang.

[–]RedFedoraNeckbeard -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Not everyone can be at the top, so don't even try"

I'm pretty much mgtow myself at the moment but you're a damn pussy OP