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“All Lives Matter” Is Stupid White Noise (blackagendareport.com)

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[–]mvanvoorden 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is the best comment I've read on this subject.

[–]padenp 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the best comic on the subject

[–]chronicheadbang 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm shocked reading the replies to him about how he changed their opinion. These people REALLY didn't realize until that point. That is insane.

[–]d3adbor3d2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i have older family members that still can't wrap their hands around the idea. their reasoning, they're poor too, so why should black people get special treatment? so depressing.

[–]atypicalpro 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking of black lives, we need to forcefully address the neo-liberal developmentalist policies that contribute to the huge burden of infant and maternal mortality in many African countries. We've known about the devastating consequences of structural adjustment since UNICEF put a human face on it...and yet adjustment and a finance ministry agenda continues to be the IMF and World Bank's primary lending strategy.

We can't even begin to address global problems because our lunatic white supremacist culture gets into a tizzy over even acknowledging the reality of black lives in the US, let alone the rest of the world.

[–]shatterhawk 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

"all lives matter" is a reactionary bandaid slapped across the eyes of the those who are terrified to pay witness to injustice, and heaven forbid acknowledge their role in perpetuating it.

I've been trying to pry this bandaid off of the face of my (male) family members for the past couple of years... but it seems to have calcified there.
And I have come to realize that they're never going to come around because they have no personal NEED to. And whats worse, it seems that they desperately need to protect their own identities as "good men." As as hard working men who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Not racist they say- realists! To suggest that not everyone has those same bootstraps will undermine everything they understand about themselves, their life, and their success.
So I will have to contemplate a new angle of approach.

[–]somuchedge[S] 20ポイント21ポイント  (16子コメント)

Great piece by Paul Street destroying some of the typical racist bullshit often asserted by mainstream white America.

[–]angelwild327 13ポイント14ポイント  (15子コメント)

THANK YOU... someone I love posted some idiotic meme today about "all lives matter" and I was trying really hard to think of something to say in response that wouldn't put me in the family dog house, more than I already am, this was SUCH good timing

[–]somuchedge[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (14子コメント)

I loved his response to the question "“If Blacks want to say that ‘Black Lives Matter,’ then why don’t they stop killing each other so much?”

intra-Back violence takes places within a White-Imposed context of racially concentrated poverty, joblessness and hyper-segregation that White America simply refuses (with too few oddball exceptions like this writer) to acknowledge. Does anyone seriously think that gun- and drug-mad and militarism-backing white Americans wouldn’t be gunning each other down on an epic scale if they were the minority group piled up on top of itself in jobless, opportunity-free ghettoes, reservations, and prisons of hopelessness and despair, branded by the color of their skins and the ubiquitous lifelong stigma of criminal records? Trust me when I say that the resulting white-on-white gang-banging slaughter that would occur on a regular basis in the great Caucasian ghettoes and reservations would make current Black-on-Black (and Native American-on- Native American and Latino-on-Latino) violence look mild by comparison

[–]TimothyGonzalez 6ポイント7ポイント  (13子コメント)

"Trust me when I say that the resulting white-on-white gang-banging slaughter that would occur on a regular basis in the great Caucasian ghettoes and reservations would make current Black-on-Black (and Native American-on- Native American and Latino-on-Latino) violence look mild by comparison"

So he's saying that he thinks that, put in the same situation, whites would be more violent than minority groups?

[–]somuchedge[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (12子コメント)

Given the level of gun saturation and historical penchant for violence, yes.

[–]TimothyGonzalez 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

historical penchant

So then, not in the same situation.

I know I'm being downvoted because "you can't be racist against white people", but that's besides the point: you are being racist towards minorities as well.

You are simply making generalised statements about racial traits. Some Hitlerian-style racialism right here.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[–]somuchedge[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (10子コメント)

Where am I being racist against minorities? And seriously, you are comparing me to Hitler? What the actual fuck?

[–]TimothyGonzalez 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

You are saying that minorities are by nature more peaceful and well-natured than white people. It might be a positive racial judgment, but it is a racial judgment nonetheless. I'm not "comparing you to Hitler", I'm saying that particular statement is some racialist theory that is eerily similar to that of Hitler.

[–]somuchedge[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hitler said minorities were more peaceful and better natured than whites?

[–]Absentia 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

No but he assigned individual personality traits to apply to entire racial groups. There is not a genetic propensity for violence across any entire race. The histories of all races are filled with extreme violence, destruction, and subjugation.

You only see historical penchant for violence in a race because you are looking for it. If your bias was formed against native Americans you'd focus on brutal intertribal wars, if coastal and central Africans, then slave capturing warfare, etc. This type of thinking is counterproductive to intelligence and leads to ridiculous mental positions such as a bigot against Mexican immigrants simultaneously saying they are here to take our jobs and they are here to be lazy and suck up welfare.

Constantly dividing by race will only lead to new and different forms of discrimination. Listen to the last 50 years of genetic research and give up the ghost for using the color of a human's skin as a meaningful marker of anything.

[–]stormyweatherian 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Very thoughtful article, thank you for posting it. I live in a part of the world where a lot of people really do believe that having Obama as president means there's no more racism.

[–]metalyger 31ポイント32ポイント  (25子コメント)

Yeah, it comes out of a place of ignorance. Similar to "men's rights" as a response to feminism. It's really a statement of supremacy and a lack of empathy to those who have real problems, but sugar coated enough to where people can say it's about helping everyone.

[–]capn_yeargh 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like to say first that I agree with your statement. But secondly, I notice there's this drastic conclusion that people often make with the "all lives matter" argument and that it's a statement of "supremacy." I understand that the consequence of saying "all lives matter" would result in ignoring the racial problem further, which would then continue the so called "supremacy".

But, when someone says "all lives matter" and they get called out, that "supremacy" statement gets fired out of (seemingly) nowhere. To someone who is saying "all lives matter" they clearly are not aware of why people are saying "black lives matter" in the first place, so they take this as being labeled a "supremacist" and thus retaliate and view those that said that as wrong or creating a racist stigma.

I know it's arrogant to say, but I feel (as someone who strongly subscribes to black lives matter) that we need to remember that sometimes those who say "all lives matter" have genuine intentions. They aren't racist and they're not trying to put anyone in their place and "maintain a supremacy" and that's one of the shittiest parts of this whole thing. People can be totally blinded to the truth of the world, and actually be systematically racist without even knowing it or while even thinking their believing in equal rights.

[–]Demonhunter115 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know, with how everything is controversial (ex. All lives matter is racist, men's rights activists are bad, feminism is stepping on the faces of males,) it makes that joke #NoLivesMatter all the more entertaining.

[–]fartingxfarts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best one I've heard is #AllReligionsMatter. That would really piss a lot of people off.

[–]-Pelvis-cannibal: Eat the Elite. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd just like to say that this is the first time I've heard "White Noise" used outside of audio terminology, and I like it.

[–]walkinsweggy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really, I think 'all lives matter' could have been used originally. taken within the context it was being used its message would have still be clear, I think 'black lives matter' is a poor choice of words as its so easy to remove it from context and criticize it.

[–]Crice6505 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was actually surprised for awhile after the "All Lives Matter" crap started that it wasn't co-opted for better use. I saw a few people start to use it after those Muslims were murdered "over a parking dispute," and thought people would start using it for good and out of solidarity.

Someone said to me though that the "Black Lives Matter" movement was specifically a black thing, and shouldn't be co-opted by other oppressed groups. I that that was interesting. What's standard protocol for stuff like that then? What do you guys think?

In other news though, I am going to start using the phrase "white noise" to refer to butthurt, reactionary white people complaints now. I like that term.

Another thing, it's really telling that the Black Lives Matter movement developed under the administration of a black president. That black individuals felt the need to start this movement DURING a black presidency should tell people exactly what the state of things is in America. At a time when black should feel MORE represented, if anything, they still feel repressed. I think that's quite telling.