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Brigaded by TardsBen Carson plans to endorse Trump (washingtonpost.com)

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[–]NakedAndBehindYou 100ポイント101ポイント  (43子コメント)

As expected. They were acting like best buds at the beginning of the campaign season.

[–]Acheron13 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

Cruz and Trump were acting like best buds at the beginning.

[–]JustAintCare 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Until Cruz attacked

[–]DRKMSTR 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cruz didn't attack first.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260335-trump-ill-go-to-war-with-cruz-if-he-rises-higher

Stop believing everything he says and look at his history.....I mean it was only 4 months ago.

[–]Ayy_1mao 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously he's no longer a real conservative.

[–]___ok 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Until Carson got close, then he turned out to be a pedophile according to Donald.

[–]LOCK3DANDLOAD3D 60ポイント61ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sleep tight sleepy doctor <3

[–]IckySkidMarx 83ポイント84ポイント  (15子コメント)

Carson as Surgeon General, Palin as Secretary of State, Yiannopoulos as Press Secretary... i better call the doctor because this erection is going to be here until November.

[–]l3ol3o 55ポイント56ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like Trump but I hope he doesn't put Palin in any position of power, especially something as powerful as the Secretary of State. As long as he keeps neocons out of his cabinet I'll be happy though.

[–]lemonparty 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

Christie as A.G. and Kasich as Veep.

[–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

Kasich doesn't really line up with trump

[–]juden-shikkerCruz Conservative 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

yea but who makes more sense for Trump.

Like he's hiring quality people right? That's his thing?

So he needs someone who can get shit through the senate right? Who are his options?

[–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly I wanted Paul on his ticket because that's where I started this election cycle at but I know that won't happen. Kasich is way too pro government for me.

[–]juden-shikkerCruz Conservative -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Paul is too left field and have the same ability to get things done (cause the whole principled thing). Really he needs someone pro government with a history of getting stuff done.

Kasich on paper makes sense esp with Ohio (although Trump probably changes traditional blue/red states a bit)

[–]TheOutlawJoseyWales1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I gotta say I'd love to see Kasich as VP. I like him a lot as a candidate in general, I think from a political stand point he's a much better politician than Trump and more proven than Cruz. I'm hoping Trump can put together a kickass team to balance his inexperience

[–]hoosierdaddy_812 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Might make for a healthy balance though

[–]_raisin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jeff Sessions as VP :)

[–]IckySkidMarx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is prefer Rand Paul as AG, Christie as SC judge but right on !

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    [–]JIDF-Shill 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The only black candidate endorses Trump, but he's a rayciss

    [–]KingKuntox 135ポイント136ポイント  (45子コメント)

    Of course he's going to endorse Trump. He understands the bigger picture, which ideologue conservatives (typically Cruzbots) tend not to. He also, I imagine, understands Trump at a much more personal level and sees in Trump benevolent values which he probably has never been privy to in Cruz. At some point, you Cruz diehards ought to be questioning yourselves, as opposed to exclusively everybody else. https://debellation.com/2016/03/05/an-open-letter-to-ben-shapiro/

    [–]tekNYK 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This article toward Shapiro... what did I just read? All it consists of is conspiracies without sources, then name calling directed at Cruz without substance.

    Then at the end I read:

    "Yours nimbly, An unprincipled Donald Trump backer."

    Then I think... well that makes sense.

    [–]TreadNotOnMeConstitutional Conservative 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

    "And then he’ll sell you down the river to the same corporate globalist interests that you’ve been getting sold out to for decades."

    I don't understand why you believe Cruz would do this when he stood up as essentially the lone voice in a 100-person Senate. I do not wish to demean you or your beliefs - I merely seek an explanation of your reasoning that got you to this point. To me, it sounds like you think Republican candidates have pandered to the conservative base every election cycle without believing in their values.

    I heartily disagree with this because I don't believe we've had truly conservative candidates in the recent past. I'd say we have had three in the past 60 years - Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, and Ted Cruz. Goldwater lost in grand fashion, but it's important to remember Kennedy was assassinated less than a year before the election. Reagan won 45 states. Every other candidate who claimed to be a conservative had the record of rejecting conservative principles and even spoke to that point. For example, George HW Bush said we would have a 'kindler and gentler conservatism' that resulted in recession. George W Bush said we would have 'compassionate conservatism' that turned into massive government spending.

    If Cruz hadn't had the record he does, fighting for conservative principles since he was in college (his senior thesis was on the importance of the mostly neglected Ninth and Tenth Amendments), then I would agree with you that there's more than a little doubt as to whether or not he would continue on that path as President. However, we have seen this is not the case and if there were any conservative candidate to vote for in my short lifetime, then Cruz is it.

    [–]pouchofdouglasadams 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ted Cruz adopted the "True Conservative" mantel because he had internal polling which told him it would be popular. His primary goal since his youth has been achieving power for himself, not the promotion of conservative principles. He is, however, a constitutionalist.

    Some Ted quotes

    “One of the reasons I was so eager to help Bush is the way he has described himself, as a compassionate conservative. That’s how I have always conceived of my own political views.”

    “But, at the same time, we need to remember that many of those coming here are coming to feed their families, to have a chance at a better life.”

    The aforementioned polling

    In our first benchmark poll, we asked a series of questions to assess where I stood compared to Dewhurst. One of those questions would become famous internally in our campaign: Question 10. It asked voters if they would be more or less likely to support me if they knew that “Ted Cruz understands that politicians from both parties have let us down. Cruz is a proven conservative we can trust to provide new leadership in the Senate to reduce the size of government and defend the Constitution.

    [–]forbin1992 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Meh. His college roommates that absolutely hate him and bashed him in the media also stated that he thinks the exact same things now that he did at the beginning of college. It was more likely that he was trying to make a name for himself within the Bush administration when he was a nobody. You can't exactly take a principled stand against a campaign you've been working for and owe all your ties to.

    It was BS in that article too where it said he supported the Gang of 8 Bill. Yes Cruz has moved around on immigration, but he never supported full on citizenship as a Senator, which is what the bill purposed. That's different than naturalization, although the article tries to distort that fact to drive home it's point.

    [–]DurtMacGurt 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It makes sense that Carson would back Trump. They have very similar stances. Carson and Trump were friends before they both ran. Carson was beholden only tovthe people, same as Trump. My hope is Carson in the VP spot.

    [–]bam2_89 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Too much inexperience. Trump can at least run on his business credentials, but Carson never ran a major organization. Then there's that whole creationism thing. There's also a serious risk, that as the oldest President, Trump will die in office. There needs to be someone younger, with experience, and who will balance the ticket to compete in states Hillary will threaten.

    [–]tekNYK -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Then there's that whole creationism thing

    Have you considered that just maybe, a brilliant neurosurgeon has considered through his own research and study that intelligence design and creation have good arguments? or are you in the camp that says "it's religious therefore hes crazy" I'm not a Ben supporter either, just you bringing that up wasn't even relevant to the conversation. Ignorance like that just irks me.

    [–]bam2_89 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People will not vote for a Young Earth Creationist in a nationwide election. It's totally relevant.

    [–]Tenorek 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I get it, Trump is your guy, so I would expect nothing less than for you to rip on Cruz. But the fact of the matter is that Trump has shown that he does not understand how things actually work. He has never, to my hearing, expressed specific examples of not only what has brought America down from where it once was, but also how to fix those problems. He DOES NOT understand those things. He knows something is wrong, I'll give him that. He really wants to fix them, which is great, but he won't be able to do it. The reason I like Cruz is that he actually understands, and articulates everything I just described, and has a record of fighting against it, even when alone. He is on a completely different intellectual level from Trump. But Trump is more appealing to the majority because they are in the same position as Trump. Trump supporters do not understand the specifics of what is wrong, but want it fixed. I get why that's endearing. Generally people dislike those that are more capable than themselves, but I think it's wrong. Unfortunately, they are the majority

    [–]crashohno 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    sees in Trump benevolent values

    Just no, dude. Just no.

    [–]PoliteAsFuc 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    When trump sells us down the river. I will be reminding each and everyone of you trump tards that this is your fault.

    [–]forbin1992 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The fact that you think Trump is a better choice than Cruz is mindblowing. Trump said he's not cutting entitlements. He said it to Hannity yesterday, he's said it multiple times. And this is before the general election when he's going to get even more moderate.

    So he wants to cut taxes yet won't touch entitelements, and we already are running a deficit. Sounds like he plans on making it worse.

    Beyond that, he hasn't given us much. In the debate a few weeks ago when health care was covered, he had nothing to say beyond "competing across state lines". I could've answered that question better. Half the people on this Subreddit could have.

    He has no idea what he's talking about. It's alarming how little he knows about policy 10 months into a campaign. He's not even taking the time to learn. He says politically incorrect shit and is an outsider so everyone assumes he'll make a good president. He can't even talk policy, he has to make it personal. A fucking tariff? Almost all economists, liberal and conservative oppose them. It could cause a recession.

    This guy is a disgrace and could take the whole conservative movement down with him.

    [–]TehGadfly -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you aren't a conservative, feel free to post elsewhere.

    Also, lol @ "Trump" and "benevolent values" used together.

    [–]pcarenza 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Actually, keep in mind that it's you who are seeking the safe space in the Trump fold. I'm going to shed a tear for you when Donald J. Trump eventually does the thing he hates so much but seems prone to more often than not.

    [–]15blairm 67ポイント68ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Oh this doesn't look too good for Ted "Canadian" "Santorum 2.0" Rafael Cruz

    [–]Glsbnewt 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Santorum and Cruz could not be more different

    [–]irumeru 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Santorum actually got 50% of the vote in some states.

    [–]gorilla_head 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

    They're very similar in the sense that Trump smashed them both.

    [–]juden-shikkerCruz Conservative 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    smashed them both

    aight, we'll see where this goes.

    [–]rllngstn818 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Trump whipped up a batch of Santorum so fast it made Cruz' head spin. Believe me, nobody is more Pro-frothiness than Trump.

    [–]juden-shikkerCruz Conservative 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Believe me, nobody is more Pro-frothiness than Trump.

    that's true, it looks neat but it's no substance!

    [–]tehForce 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Trumpkins are Nasty...very Nasty.

    [–]NeoxideReagan Conservative 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I'm not surprised. In Carson's mind, he was the evangelical frontrunner until Cruz "stole" Iowa from him, and his momentum.

    Regardless of the fact that CNN reported the false story and Cruz's campaign simply passed it on, and regardless that Carson had already lost substantial momentum before Iowa, and regardless of the fact that Carson outperformed what straw polling had expected him to in Iowa.

    And even had Cruz maliciously tried to sabotage/'steal Carson's campaign, realistically how many people can you reach or change the minds, across a whole state, within a few hours of the polls closing? Certainly not 15% of the vote which would have been required to beat Trump.

    I only post this because Trumpbots are delusional are will try to meme their candidate to the top with low information arguments and gut reactions.

    [–]tdt0005 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It wasn't even a false story! That's the part that gets me.

    [–]PhilosoGuidoConstitutionalist 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

    And the facts of the story came from the buffoon's own damn campaign, and his only explanation was the he needed a fresh change of clothes. He lost all my respect with that episode.

    [–]tdt0005 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think he legitimately thinks he was wronged though. But he claimed to accept Ted's apology. And how can he be so dumb?

    [–]DurtMacGurt 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ITT - a bunch of redditors rivaling the immaturity of a YouTube comments section

    [–]mungis 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Fingers crossed this endorsement matters the same amount as all the previous endorsements.

    [–]boofbonzer81 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Top post on this sub has three times as many up votes and same amount of comments. Lol

    [–]ultimisConstitutionalist 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well yeah he stayed in to leech support. It was pretty clear in how he played along with Trump's smear campaign early on. Trump probably told him to stay through Super Tuesday and he would give him a Cabinet position.

    [–]GoldyJewstein 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    SLEEPY DOCTOR,

    YOU'VE BEEN GONE TOO LONG ON PRIMETIME TV

    [–]PlaceboDefect -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Uh oh, /r/the_donald is here. get ready for the shit show everyone.

    [–]realcoolioman -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You've got to be kidding me. Jeeze, I actually liked a lot of his ideas earlier in the campaign season. What a disappointment.

    [–]avatarjokumo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Someone just got paid

    [–]Stagester 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Of course he will because the only reason he was running besides collecting $ was to keep Cruz from winning. What a fraud sleazeball.

    [–]logicalthinker1Libertarian Conservative -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Carson had such a bright future... Oops.

    [–]TICKLE_MY_RECTUM 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    yea im sure endorsing the front runner of the party is really going to ruin carsons future

    [–]dkdodd52Constitutional Conservative -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not surprised. My grandmother loved Carson...she cannot stand Trump. When I told her this, she said one thing about it to me, "You were right about Ben. I can't believe he would turn on his supporters like that."

    [–]0f-course -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Surprising, considering Carson's attitude toward Trump during the last few months of his campaign.

    [–]ConservativeTheorist -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Will he also announce a new book about his endorsement of Trump?

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