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Sick of this sub-reddit trivializing real issues us non-chads and non-Tyrones face (self.TheBluePill)

123Jobber が 投稿

You are all Chads we get it, however before you post your drivel on here remember that there's guys who legit cannot get anything here across the world due to sky-high standards these days.

The average woman REFUSES to accept any guy who isn't either a 6'2 white wealthy fit Chad or 6'2 ripped confident extroverted fit black guy.

Regardless of how a woman looks or what she offers, she wants Tyrones only. This is a real-issue related to modern hypergamy which TRP reddit exposes.

Women have increasing standards which displace your average guy in favour of the top 20%.

None of you on this sub-reddit acknowledge how difficult it is to find a mate if you are a sub-6ft sub-8/10 in looks. Damn near impossible.

There is even data to prove this pareto principle;Studies show women on OKCUPID find 80% of men below average. 80%. This is a real issue driven by modern feminism.

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[–]future_space_boobsugly saggy plastic boobs 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Lol my dude I promise you your victim complex is more of a cockblock than your height or your looks.

[–]123Jobber[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

My dude, I remember being flat out rejected by two black girls for not being Tyrone in the space of 2 months. Both declined any advances and went out with two similar looking guys. Both guys I was rejected for were 6ft, handsome, popular campus Tyrones.

This is not a joke.

[–]wrongerontheinternet 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's awfully inconvenient that all of your problems with women stem from things you can't change (like your height) and not from things you can (like your personality).

[–]future_space_boobsugly saggy plastic boobs 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

from what i've read of your outlook here those girls had plenty of reasons to reject you that don't have anything to do with your appearance... nobody is as good at hiding their negativity as they think they are. you're using your looks and your height as an excuse to continue acting the part of the innocent victim of feeemales rather than unpacking all of this ideological baggage you're hauling around. you're too busy projecting all of the worst stereotypes you can summon on the guys that those girls chose to date to think that maybe they have a few redeeming traits aside from their physical attractiveness. 80% of guys aren't celibate, i promise you. the most attractive among us will always have some implicit advantages, but average schmoes do just fine.

[–]123Jobber[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why can't you just accept that women will reject you on tangibles? (Height, looks, wealth, social status) instead of intangibles (perceived levels of negativity).....

I mean lets use Orkhams Razor here. What is the simplest explanation here? Women not being attracted to how you look or them sensing negativity (whatever the fuck that means).

[–]future_space_boobsugly saggy plastic boobs 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

i absolutely can accept it! people reject people they don't find attractive all the time and they have every right to do so. it's just that you have provided rare insight into a wealth of reasons why you may have been-- and should continue to be-- rejected. like i said, as convenient as it would be to point at a single data point of an OKCupid survey to write off your problems with women, 80% of men are not celibate. you are taking your own problems and extrapolating them exponentially so that every guy who's not a "chad" must be as miserable as you are.

[–]123Jobber[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Citing recent DNA research, Dr. Baumeister explained Todays human population is descended from twice as many women as men, Maybe 80 percent of women reproduced, whereas only 40 percent of men did".

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/is-there-anything-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-questions/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=2

What more evidence do you want?

How many more studies do you need to see?

You have posted absolutely zero proof that 80% of men aren't celibate. I have shown 3 pieces of evidence now. Cite a source illustrating that "most" men get laid.

Prove your stance. I challenge any of you. You over-estimate how many men actually have any success with women based on your own anecdotal evidence (Your friends, looking outside)....

[–]Gunlord5002alfalfa4me 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

You forgot "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."

(on the off-chance you're serious, jesus, calm down. Being short sucks, but you can offset that by being wealthy, OR dressing well, OR being funny, OR being particularly good at social interaction, OR having a useful, prestigious skill, etc. etc. etc. Also, women like fit guys? No god damn shit. Guys like fit girls, at least judging by how incessantly TRP screams about feminism breeding fatties. If you want a skinny lady, hold yourself to the same standard and hit the gym. It's good for you anyways for a variety of reasons--lower chance of diabetes, heart disease, etc. If being a Chad means being healthy, maybe we should emulate Chaddo)

[–]registrationscoflaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

on the off-chance you're serious

ahahaah peeped his post history, fairly certain this is a realpost

[–]Birdsiscool 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're all chads? That's a nice change from the typical accusation that we're all simpering betas and whiteknights.

I know, like, a lot of <6'2" men who have SOs. They aren't rich. Or ripped. I won't comment on their appearance since I'm sure you'll just accuse me of being blind to the bottom 80%. So, how do you explain that?

I love that OKCupid study too. The one where women rate most guys below average but still respond to their messages, and where men rate more women as attractive but the vast majority of their messages go to a small percentage of the most attractive women.

[–]ProbablyBelievesIt 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're chads to the incel crowd. They tell themselves that their problem is looks, so we must be blind to our beauty.

But the ugly truth is that they're pity addicts. Official recognition of their melodramatic tragedy is as close as they ever got to making a romantic connection with another human being.

[–]SamuelEnderby 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get it. Being unattractive is hard. As a blooping stud, I obviously don't know this first hand but I have enough empathy to have some idea of your pain...

But you still can't go out and violate economics, psychology, biology, history or women. You just can't.

[–]registrationscoflaw 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

i have an okcupid date on saturday 8-)

VERY LATE EDIT BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE BEING SERIOUS HERE: i dont think im an 8/10 looks wise and also am not 6 feet all........... smell the glove

[–]DevilDwarv 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

My latest FR points out that if you Agree and Amplify during a shit test you can avoid the AF/BB dynamic. If you then use a logaritmic function on the N count you can solve N for HB = X. And don't forget to lift.

[–]SomeStupidJerk 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I legit cant tell if you're mocking TRP or you're serious.

Which?

[–]under_your_bed94Cuck-mannder in chief 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comment history says legit :/

[–]Temascos 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

The whole 'Chad' thing is ridiculous. Being physically fit (Note - NOT like one of those models you see on fitness magazines, but just healthy) should be something everyone strives for, most of that is in a good diet and it makes a positive world of difference even if you don't get dates out of that.

The sky-high standards stuff seems to be something Red Pillers, MRAS, KIAs, MTGOW or whatever acronym comes next goes for as well in women, and its poison is in our media (How many women have a natural, healthy body weight but are seen as being a TOTAL FATTY OMG, I've seen it a lot). Realistic standards can and should be what we ALL go for, and Feminism supports that. I certainly have never seen any of the Men's Rights groups advocate or actively campaign against these impossible standards for men, but just go after women, because of course its more constructive.

And just using OKCupid as a sample? Great, show the links, and back it up with other dating sites.

I just wish The Red Pill actually focused on improving Men's Rights, those guys have done quite frankly, fuck all. In terms of actually coming up with positive ideas, campaigning for them even at a local level, pointing to or recommending resources that can help to improve self-esteem. Nothing.

[–]123Jobber[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here you go 2 different dating sites.

This Tinder study again proves Pareto. Most of the women on Tinder hookup. Very few of the men. 80/20 : http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lo t

Here is the OK Cupid study. Deny reality all you want: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1225428-OKCupid-study-shows-women-say-80-of- men-are-quot-below-average-quot-looking

[–]under_your_bed94Cuck-mannder in chief 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

looks at chubby nerd friends with girlfriends

Lol, K bro.

[–]LiftWellKittyDomiMatrix 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about the Chadines?

[–]registrationscoflaw 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

are tyrones black guys op?

[–]123Jobber[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

These are the attractive black guys who monopolise all black women. They are tall, charismatic, loud, confident.

If you aren't Tyrone you can forget about black women.

[–]registrationscoflaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

maybe you can but that sounds like a perosnal problem

[–]DevilDwarv 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh wait you're serious? Get of the internet and look around in the real world. None of what you say is true.

[–]123Jobber[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Everything I say is true. Why do women list these things as a preference for mates in any convo I've heard?

I approached two girls who were simultaneously being chased by two different attractive, tall, well-known guys. I got rejected by both for those guys. Why???????? Its because they want the top 20%.

Just accept that the REDPILL is correct. World isn't fair and equitable like you guys think it is.

[–]DevilDwarv 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Preference =/= accepts nothing else. I'm sure most guys prefer 10/10 girls. Doesn't mean anything else is unacceptable to them.

[–]Birdsiscool 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm curious what those girls looked like. To hear you complain that it wasn't fair, they must have been pretty unimpressive. And yet they managed to land attractive black men, presumably in a country where black women often struggle to meet eligible black men. You'd think these Tyrones would have the pick of the litter and go for very attractive women. But out of the goodness of their hearts, they went for those shallow 6/10s who rejected you!

[–]Dongymandias 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has Chad been dethroned by Tyrone?

[–]VampiresquidinaBathing in the blood of incels is my beauty secret 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see sub-8/10 guys with girlfriends and wives all day, every day. It's just that their girlfriends and wives are usually sub-8/10 too. I suspect that's the real problem you guys have.

[–]Schobbe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't waste your time here, they will never admit that women don't have to do anything to get men's attention.

[–]VampiresquidinaBathing in the blood of incels is my beauty secret 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol...except wear makeup and have long hair, big tits, and act dumb. And never, ever be overweight. Or wear glasses - my favorite. I'm almost invisible to men when I wear my glasses.

So Yeah, nothing at all.

[–]IWasNeverHere80 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Says the sub that consistently rates women on a 10 scale and openly mocks women that are overweight, ugly or unconventional.

[–]123Jobber[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

This women are wonderful bias needs to end. People here refuse to accept that maybe, just maybe women are far more shallow than expected.

They'll blame your personality, but then you tell them you were rejected without saying much or anything at all, then they blame something else (You were oozing negativity she can sense your self pity or some bullshit)....

Why can't we just say modern women are particular in their mate choices like scientific evidence points towards? That women want the top male they can get and will reject males who don't fit their criterion?

That its in a man's best interest to try and become a "top" male in order to be more desirable through career, improving looks, improving social status etc? Redpill site speaks on all of these truths.

[–]Birdsiscool 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me quote this comment you can find above:

I see sub-8/10 guys with girlfriends and wives all day, every day. It's just that their girlfriends and wives are usually sub-8/10 too. I suspect that's the real problem you guys have.

Why didn't you answer me about what those girls looked like?

No one has ever claimed that women don't care about a man's appearance. And frankly, those girls probably did reject you for being unattractive to them. Look around you: people tend to pair up with people of similar physical attractiveness. Maybe you should consider whether you're only considering the top 20% of women.

And if somehow you do make yourself superficially attractive - maybe you get ripped and start making a lot of money - you'll probably find it easier to get casual sex and dates. But if you ever try to have a relationship, the best you'll do is some golddigger who will drop you like a hot rock if someone with a bigger wallet or a more glamorous lifestyle comes by. Because your personality fucking blows.

Lol, and then you'll claim "AWALT!" and the cycle will continue. All the while, people like me will be enjoying their healthy relationships with people they genuinely care about.

[–]wrongerontheinternet 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you are asking women out who you don't know, without saying much of anything at all, what exactly do you expect them to base their decision on other than your appearance?

[–]123Jobber[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

When you are at a party or social event and women will refuse to talk or socialize even if you aren't remotely interested in them, is that not a rejection based on appearance?

If a woman can potentially reject a man without him saying anything or even hinting at anything is that not proof that looks matter, your status matters? That tangible aspects of yourself matter to them?

[–]wrongerontheinternet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you're saying no woman you're not interested in romantically--not even one--has ever been willing to talk to you at any social event? Are any of your friends women you're not interested in romantically? Have you ever tried to make friends with a woman who you're not interested in romantically, in any setting?

[–]Schobbe -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They don't care because they don't need to. Women don't need to worry about attractiveness.

[–]wub1234 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

For future reference OP, if you calmly and politely explain to women in particular that dating can be challenging for men even if you're a decent guy then you will get a better response than if you adopt an accusatory and aggressive tone.