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submitted by Merica911
tl;dr Females today are overweight more than anytime in history and actually surpassed men in United States and leave "fit" females with even high smv.
body Since when do men look at females at her accomplishments (school, career, social status) when it comes in selecting to have sex with? Never! It's youth and beauty. Period. And if her youth is running out, she better have her weight under control.
There's two parallels going on here. 1) Females are getting bigger (lack of exercise and over eating) and 2) Men are exercising more and eating healthier. But this is completely upside down. Not saying more men should be obese but women should really give a fuck about her weight. Like I said earlier and say it again. Us men don't care if you're a ceo, president, best soccer player, invented the Internet, etc etc.. All we care about if you're fit to bare our child because us men can't and if we see your weight is unhealthy, us men don't want to risk our future son or daughter with also an unhealthy life. We don't think about it but our DNA does.
Now I hate to say but all the 6s, 7s and 8s females out there just now became 8s, 9s, and "my shit doesn't stink"s. Yup, from many more females becoming overweight, the ones that are not overweight just became dimes. The dating sence just got an heavier load for men, literally.
lesson learned females feel like they're entitled to eat McDonald's.
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[–]Batou_Red 27 points28 points29 points  (5 children)
The 1-10 rating system is not a normalized curve. It is quite a bit "heavier" towards the bottom numbers
[–]icecow 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
I like to think of it how you stated, however over time the 1-10 rating system does normalize.
[–]RickJamesBond 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
It's a slow change where the average becomes a 5. A 7 back in pre fat times would have had to be more than not fat. Now, a woman can be a 7 just by not being fat.
[–]Merica911[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
yup.. and with females now, you're higher than a 5 for just not being fat.. there is so many more factors for a man to be a 5 and higher
[–]NaturalAlpha69 comment score below threshold-13 points-12 points-11 points  (0 children)
Lol you penor, it's a percentage. E.g. 7/10 = top 30 %
[–]Luce_Bree 22 points23 points24 points  (2 children)
Dude this is especially devastating when dealing with Black Americans, any socio-economic or cultural factors aside.
If any of you live in NYC, try this little exercise:
Typically on older C trains, or on any of the newer trains (such as those used on the F, E, M and C lines), there are benches lining either side of the train car that can hold about six people on average.
If you're out in Brooklyn or in Harlem, there will be quite a number of Black females on the train. On any given day, out of six people, if 4 of them are Black women, on average I'd say at LEAST 2-3 of them will be overweight, or disgustingly obese. I've found this number to be consistent, after two weeks of conducting this informal "study".
It's starting to get embarrassing--don't these women see themselves? Don't they understand how ugly and disgusting they look? And then they complain that they can't find a man, but the mindfuck is that Black (and Latino) men will fall over themselves chasing after these women.
I'm glad I can date outside of my race easily--otherwise it's, pardon the expression, slim pickings.
[–]douglas_p 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
Yeah, people who claim that "everyone in NYC is thin" clearly never leave their rich white/hipster enclaves.
[–]StuffaYouFace 60 points61 points62 points  (23 children)
Spend 20 min anywhere and just people watch. 99% are ugly and overweight. It blows me away how few good looking women there are.
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    [–]Namkcalb 28 points29 points30 points  (3 children)
    Worse... Australian women don't make anywhere near the same effort and our UV hole sunworshiping culture makes the physical wall quite early.
    [–]pavista 17 points18 points19 points  (2 children)
    It's crazy how early people age if they get a lot of sun. It really can be difficult to tell 25 and 40 apart
    [–]redadactyl 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    Im facing this now, life on the water is a full life. But seeing 65 year old men getting their faces blasted with acid for the skin cancer on their cheeks from a life chasing fish makes you rethink the value of a tan.
    [–]Prinz_von_Kirchberg 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Just take a look at asian females. They dont go into the sun therefore preserve their beauty.
    [–]Geleemann 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    A lot of gay people in Sydney (King's Cross) so It's not surprising that the men would be well dressed and take care of themselves
    [–]curiousdude 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
    Sometimes I try and imagine what fat chicks would look like if they lost a lot of weight. It definitely makes people watching more interesting.
    [–]pavista 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    I think it's a major reason behind scarcity these days. Look at family pictures from your grandparents, I bet everyone is attractive, even the "lesser attractive" people back then are still fairly thin and good looking. I swear the average women from the 50s are a 7+ by today's standards. No wonder there was a good looking woman for every man, they were all thin and fit.
    [–]aliveidt 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
    I'm in germany, waiting at a bus station close to university right now. I conclude not all hope is lost.
    Edit: your point still stands though
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      [–]ChanThunderwang 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I studied for a short time in Germany. There are practically NO OBESE people on campus. You see hundreds of young people and maybe one or two of them are fat. It was nice.
      On the streets however, there were a lot of trashy looking obese people.
      [–]timebeast69 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
      In this day and age simply not being fat seems to make you attractive.
      [–]1DarthExero 10 points11 points12 points  (4 children)
      Its also because people are aging. The age of the average American is considerably older now than it was for past generations. If you went in a time machine to the 1960s you would notice that there was mostly young and healthy people and very few old people.
      [–]recon_johnny 14 points15 points16 points  (3 children)
      Eh. I look back on pictures of my dad, and at 50 he was fucking OLD. 30-35 was middle aged. Usually no exercise, and that was the norm.
      Having said that, the younger folks of that period were not fat like today. We have so many obese people under 30, it's nuts.
      [–]Eknecron 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
      this might have a lot to do with the fashion styles. you can dress someone up with different hair and clothing and the same person could look 10 years apart.
      [–]recon_johnny 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      You may have a point in the visual thing, but to me, it was more of an attitude. I'm at that same age, but I'm way more active. My dad would drink daily after work (wine, then scotch), he'd eat too much. He never exercised. He smoked. My family is much more active...hell, on the last trip to San Fran, we walked the bridge (4 miles). No fucking way my parents could have done that. Ever.
      What you didn't see then however, was younger people being fat as much as they are now. Inactivity, shitty eating habits, eating too much; all these things contribute to today's issues.
      [–]zyl0w 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
      Depends on what geographic region you're talking about.
      [–]StuffaYouFace 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
      Sure. There are always exceptions. That is not the fucking point. I can find an exception to pretty much everything. I can go stand a cheerleader completion and see nothing but hotties all day. I can stand in the quad and watch all the nubile freshmen. Every day people in everyday life are fat and ugly.
      [–]zyl0w -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Yeah you're right! I guess I've been fortunate with where I went to college and where I live now.
      [–]Eknecron 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      you need to start hanging out in college towns. sometimes I can't even handle how many attractive women are just walking around. my mind wants to explode sometimes.
      [–]fundude12 32 points33 points34 points  (0 children)
      Its even worse than this:
      Traditional BMI numbers UNDERESTIMATE female obesity and OVERESTIMATE male obesity due to differences in muscle mass
      [–]verify_account 26 points27 points28 points  (8 children)
      Men are exercising more and eating healthier.
      Because if you want to get into the top 20% you have to get fit. Unlike women we can't achieve a high SMV by just not pigging out on food.
      Back in my bluepill days I was skinny and I didn't care. My little bluepill mind thought skinny guy was = to a skinny girl. Skinny guys are just as bad as fat guys in the eyes of women. Having abs with no muscle is like boobs on a fat chick.
      [–]yaardi 22 points23 points24 points  (1 child)
      I disagree, skinny is always better than fat.
      [–]ChanThunderwang 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      As long as you are not literally underweight, I agree.
      Well, actually, there are even hot college aged women who are into that super skinny hipster look.
      So I fully agree.
      [–]pavista 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
      Ideal male image is forged on endless hard work plus genetics, women just have to stay thin.
      [–]imjusttryingtodome 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Women have to stay thin and pretty. But the latter can extended with clothes and makeup.
      Men have to have athleticism and game. But the later can be extended with knowledge and experience.
      [–]marty2k 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      You can work skinny if you dress well and have a good person that meshes well with it. But low bf, decent amount of muscle makes heads turn.
      [–]muh-soggy-knee 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      I disagree entirely, skinny is actually the optimum look for some target demographics.
      If you want to fuck teenagers, 17-21, the most successful build to do it is around 5'9, 130lbs, fashionable haircut and the right clothes.
      Being 6'3 and stacked will get you plenty of tail, but it wont be the teenage 10s, it will be the older demographics, 25+. The hottest, youngest women are after a One Direction lookalike, and muscle aint gonna cut it.
      [–]ChanThunderwang -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
      One Direction lookalike
      Pretty sure they all have abs.
      But yes, the ideal man in the eyes of women is a lot less muscular than the ideal man in the eyes of men.
      [–]muh-soggy-knee 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      They do, because they have very VERY low body fat. No real muscle to speak of
      [–]DaphneDK 20 points21 points22 points  (17 children)
      I simply cannot understand it. Being a few kilos overweight, yeah I get it, even 5-10kg overweight. But being 50kg+ overweight? It can't possible be that hard to not get that massive. Probably don't even have to excersise. Just eat a little more healthy and stay away from junk food. Take the steps instead of the lift once in a while; go for a walk now and then.
      I mean, it's not a herculian effort that is needed.
      [–]timebeast69 12 points13 points14 points  (1 child)
      People do what is easy. Easy is sitting on the couch and eating shit food.
      My sister have been overweight her whole life, and just about any conversation you have with her she is whining about how fat she is. But no matter what she does, she can't stop putting crap in her mouth or go for a walk.
      When she does "exercise" it is light yoga. When she does "eat healthy" she just eats way more of it to compensate.
      I want to yell at her to smarten up, but I can't, it's her life. She can ruin it if she wants to, all I can do is set a good example.
      [–]icecow 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      It's yet another feedback loop. They don't want to go out because they don't want to be seen, compared, and judged, and because they are low energy so they stay on the couch and eat crap. It's a feedback loop vortex of doom.
      [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 7 points8 points9 points  (7 children)
      People go into overdrive rationalizing their overeating and bad fitness habits. "I've got a condition," or "My thyroid is making me fat," or even, "I'm healthier at this weight!"
      Meanwhile, this dude goes from 375lbs to 215lbs in a year, and this woman loses 90lbs. Having never lost that much weight, I can't imagine the amount of discipline that must have taken, but they prove it can be done.
      Edit: just realized that the first dude looks amazingly like Charles Barkley.
      [–]muh-soggy-knee 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
      Having lost 82lbs myself, plus whatever I gained in muscle mass, probably about 30, its not as hard as its made out to be
      [–]marty2k 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
      The easy part is going from fat to overweight or normal. Stop eating shit food all the time and go for a run three times a week. The hard part is getting those last pounds and getting to a single digit body fat percent (or close).
      [–]SgtBrutalisk 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Yep, daily physical activity is the key.
      [–]muh-soggy-knee 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Agreed, the first 50lbs came off very easily. The rest much slower. Ideally I'd like another 25lbs or so off, which would take me to 190 @ 6'2. Currently 32" waist (from 44") 46" chest. Sadly I won't get into any smaller trousers, I'll be stuck at 32" because of my women's hips.
      In the last year my training has slipped badly, from 5-6 days a week to 1-2. Haven't really done too badly, managed to maintain most of my mass and even got a bit more fat off by eating a lot cleaner, but its time for a big bulk.
      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      Guy who lost 110 lbs. in a year and a half here. Keto was really easy. What helped me stick to it was actually seeing and feeling results. When I tried everything but keto before it, I would just give up. When I lost 10 lbs. in the first month, I knew there would be no looking back.
      My first red pill was about dietary fat not actually being bad for you.
      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Yea keto changed my life. Once you realize the depth of your sugar addiction it's shocking.
      [–]wallst07 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      The hard part is making a life decision to change and being consistent. It's all down hill from there and actually gets easier as you see gains.
      [–]walking_ape 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
      People eat because their life sucks and food is the only instant feel-good substance they know.
      I think you will find many skinny people smoke. It's pretty much the same thing. If you smoke I instantly judge you the same way I judge an overweight person.
      I know because I am overweight. (cutting, but still haven't arrived yet).
      [–]RickJamesBond 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      As a former fatty, I have also become judgemental.
      [–]muh-soggy-knee 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Nicotine is a hell of an appetite suppressant. Its as much causation as correlation, if you smoke you simply dont want to eat as much. And you dont enjoy your food so much when you do.
      Smoking will generally make you skinnier.
      I know myself when im heavy on the nicotine i just dont feel the need to eat, i have to choose to eat. Its pretty easy to end up skinny this way. Nicotine has had more effect on my ability to shed weight than steroids, peptides and T3 combined
      [–]SgtBrutalisk 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      I just lost 6 kg in 30 days. My secret? Fruit instead of chocolate, water instead of soda and fresh meat daily. I also dropped dairy and grains and started running daily. The belly simply melted. It's fucking sweet how much mobility you gain by losing as little as 6 kg (91 -> 85 kg). My life literally became lighter.
      [–]garlicextract -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Probably don't even have to excersise. Just eat a little more healthy and stay away from junk food.
      That's the thing... if you're 30-50+kg overweight... you don't even have to stay away from junk food! At all! You can eat pizza EVERY day and have ice cream, and 'maintain' at 'only' 40kg (88lbs) overweight.
      You have to TRY to go beyond that.
      [–]tb87670 8 points9 points10 points  (4 children)
      Hate to say this, I was a 7, probably even an 8 when I was in decent shape. At the time I hit an 8min mile I was able to bench 250lbs, weighed 200lbs. Was not 'cut' nor lean but was blue enough to never get laid. Lucky I have a great skull shape and face. Now post-injury I'm overweight and out of shape (working on that now, lost 20lbs last month) I'm considering myself a 5. What is funny is in reality I'm attracting 5's as if I was a 6 and they are acting like they are trading up. Women gain 10lbs all of a sudden their market value drops, both in reality and especially in their minds. I'm seeing this often, 10lbs doesn't make the woman too much worse of a lay in my eyes but it makes her so much easier.
      Even an overweight guy who is conscious and applies TRP knowledge can have an easy time out there but do not sit idle and stay out of shape simply because you can bag 4-5's every week on purely mental game alone. Part of my mental game comes from me improving myself. I'm just glad I'm able to play in this condition when in fact I'm not physically up to spec as an alpha yet.
      [–]LMS_THEORY_ 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
      I'm amazed at how overweight men can still lay decent women. Not criticizing them, more congratulating because it must take serious persuasion to do that, or maybe money
      [–]marty2k 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Attraction is all about emotions and dominance. Being hot makes it easy, having game makes it possible for just about anyone.
      [–]tb87670 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Don't have the money. I'm simply on my game and apply what I learned here, watch body language, oh how often a 'no' actually meant 'maybe later' when it came to stuff like feeling them up. I learned a lot here from TRP and improved my sexual strategy. Last plate cost me $43 total counting food and gas, and I got way more fun out of that money than it would have gotten me with a prostitute that would have likely looked worse and been 'dirty' in a bad way.
      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Women are beating men at fatness, eh? And here I thought men were better at everything. /s
      I will say this though: pretty girls, most of them will take their looks for granted and think nothing of exercising to retain their looks. They either fall apart or become skinnyfat. I suppose men do this too, but if you're an RP man you should already know enough to be staying fit. The way I see it, health and fitness are inevitable goals everybody needs to confront, there's no getting out of it.
      A woman not getting exercise on her own is never going to be longterm material.
      [–]Allanlemos 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
      Since society doesn't shame women on their weight anymore,that's the result,and the worst part of this situation is that all these lazy fat ass chicks still feel entitled to the best males.
      [–]Doctor_Mayhem 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I think that may be the one silver lining to the inevitability of the US going to socialized medicine.
      Fat shaming of some sort will be forced back because of the how badly the system will be overburdened.
      [–]Doctor_Mayhem 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Plain and simple, the sexual demographics are fucked up. There are more women in Western societies than men, and as a result, their votes turn the West into daycare rules.
      Unfortunately, it's old and useless women who are voting. When it comes to prime sexual market women, they are outnumbered by men by a larger than we think margin. On top of that, there's the fact that being a girl who simply isn't fat, isn't a single mom, or some other assorted piece of garbage has, as you said, skyrocketed her value.
      It basically boils down to how women don't have to try anymore, and in order to get a girl, you have to put more effort in than ever before. More game, more gym, maybe even cosmetic surgery.
      I despise what MGTOW has become, but they have one good point. There has never been a time to drop out and go your own way.
      Modern women just aren't worth it, anymore.
      Also, seeing how modern democracy has devolved into old hags voting for the nanny state, I can definitely see the wisdom in how the vikings had their wives die in the funeral pyre with their husbands. That needs to be brought back.
      [–]lodro 12 points13 points14 points  (4 children)
      According to the link, the increased incidence of obesity in women is entirely due to an increase in obesity among black and hispanic women.
      The widening gap between women and men could be attributed to the obesity rates in black and Hispanic women. The authors of the report found that while the obesity rates remained pretty much the same for white women and men, the rate for black women skyrocketed to 57 percent while the rate for black men was at 38 percent. For Hispanics, the rates were 46 percent in women and 39 percent in men.
      lesson learned Don't trust OP to draw conclusions based on their own source material. :P
      [–]Merica911[S] 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
      Hispanic women and black women are women too. Not everything is just about white women.
      The conclusion is women today are the biggest ever in any time in history and the ones that are fit now has a higher smv.
      [–]lodro 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      :/
      No. Your post implies that the trend exists across women as a category; it doesn't. It exists across some categories of women, and not others.
      You claim that women are getting bigger, but they're not: black and hispanic women are getting bigger. The rest are staying the same size, according to your source.
      [–]obama_lurves_nsa 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      WHERE ALL DA WHITE WOMEN AT /blazing saddles quotes
      [–]Luce_Bree 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Lol I just posted a comment about this. If you live in a dense city like New York or DC, with a large Black/Hispanic/Latin population, you will see the VAST numbers of fat women among those demos.
      [–]screamingATtrees 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      What did everyone expect to happen with all this fat acceptance propaganda for women?
      [–][deleted]  (6 children)
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        [–]RP_is_mainstream 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
        In the 1950's the ideal female body image was Marilyn Monroe. According to Kendall (1999), she was a size 14. Most likely,in today's standard of the ultra-thin body type, she would be considered chubby or overweight .
        Dog shit feminist propaganda.
        Marilyn Monroe was not a size 14, according to her old dresses she actually wore she was anywhere from a size 2-4.
        She was 118lbs at 5'5", which much to fatties collective chagrins, is skinny, especially when you add her massive tits to the equation
        [–]williamwilliam2 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
        Rubeneque was rare back then.
        [–]arrayay 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        Those women aren't even that big compared to what we have these days.
        [–]yaardi 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        In the past, "Rubenesque" women were the ideal.
        That's wrong. Rubens was into heavier women. Just because one paitiner was drawing such women, doesn't mean that was the ideal for female beauty for humany up until the 1990s or some shit like that.
        [–]WhiteKnightFgt 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        That is not attractive lol
        [–]RickJamesBond 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Not exactly stellar research there. One painter...
        [–]MDFMK 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        More reason to eat right and lift, I find this stuff is my motivation.
        [–]Stythe 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Y'know, there's aa certain irony in that the guys who couldn't get laid, realizing why and improving themselves, becoming bettercin as a result ate going to be able to filter through crazies who can't even PUT DOWN THAT TWINKIE DIANE.
        [–]soultrain776 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (22 children)
        Point taken, can I just say something really quick?
        Female and male are genders, usually not used as nouns. They qualify a noun. They are used as an adjective to characterize a genderless noun, saying female cop, female student, etc is right. However, there's a name for female human being: woman. There's a specific name for male human being: man.
        When talking about female human beings the correct word is women. Just saying, good topic.
        [–]BlueChilli 4 points5 points6 points  (5 children)
        Female
        noun: female;
        plural noun: females
        1.a female person, animal, or plant.
        Here's a pedantic dictionary definition for your pedantic statement.
        Words and definitions can be interchangeable. The best test that they are is if everyone understands what is meant by the words in the context. Everyone understands it. Hell, even you understood what the OP meant when he said 'female'.
        Now take your prescriptive grammar and be off with you.
        [–]soultrain776 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
        Again, I never talked grammar. You don't even know what grammar is.
        Interesting that you forgot to add the most common use of the word, which is an adjective:
        adjective 4. of, relating to, or being a female animal or plant. 5. of, relating to, or characteristic of a female person; feminine: female suffrage; female charm. 6.composed of females: a female readership.
        If you say female instead of women you are either ghetto or a nerd, end of story. Or if you really wanna make a minimum of sense, you should say you have females instead of dogs if that was the case if someone asked if you have dogs, for example, because female is used for all animals. Why be specific when you can be lazy and dumb. Tupac used to call women females and bitches and he was wrong 25 years ago, catch up.
        [–]BlueChilli 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
        Again, I never talked grammar. You don't even know what grammar is.
        Semantics falls under the greater umbrella of grammar. I can google that for you if you like.
        [–]TruthNotFeelings 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        No point in arguing with a dumbass.
        [–]neptunesunrise 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        lol it's not as bad as the ones who mistake "woman" and "women" all the time. I can't say why it makes my skin crawl, but it does. "Woman are crazy." "You are a smart women. Wow." What the fuck.
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          [–]soultrain776 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (10 children)
          I'm not trying to be anything (also don't tell me what to do).
          However, I don't care if it's common, it's not right. Female and males are genders. There's a word that is used to call female human beings = woman. There are certain words for female animals, like sow, mare, bitch, doe, so on, but they are not commonly used in their meaning. There's not a word for female porcupine for example, so female porcupine goes.
          However, the word for female human being is commonly used, and if they use female more than woman in Australia, they are wrong. Seeing women being called just females usually just sound really nerdy or really ghetto. I was cool with the guy when I said my piece, I didn't have to preach to him anything like you tried to do, you are nobody to tell me to try very hard anything. If you reply to my post you won't get a reply from me, I said what needed to be said.
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            [–]soultrain776 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
            One I am not american, but ok. Two, I never corrected anyone's grammar. What I said has nothing to do with grammar. If Australians call women females or spaghetti is all the same to me, both are wrong. You are boring and sad. You should feel boring and sad. Now I'm done.
            [–]TruthNotFeelings 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
            How sad is your life that you get indignant and butthurt over something so small?
            [–]soultrain776 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
            It seems like you are the one who got butthurt about this if you took the time to say something and still managed to not add anything to the discussion at the same time. If you honestly sit at a bar and look at women and call them female this and female that you're either a pasty white boy trying to be a jive talking ghetto wannabe or an out of shape nerd full of triggers that works at McDonalds. Just saying.
            [–]TruthNotFeelings 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
            Christ man, another essay? You're REALLY mad.
            [–]soultrain776 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            4 lines is an essay? I guess reading is hard for some people. Also, you have no idea about how I am feeling, it's really not something you can assess online, nice try though.
            [–]TruthNotFeelings 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Keep it coming. I'm obviously phased by this.
            [–]boredepression 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            Noone here cares. If you want to police grammar, go find that subreddit.
            [–]soultrain776 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
            you are late boy, that boat has sailed already. go learn what grammar is and don't come back.
            [–]Merica911[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Some say potato some say potato
            [–]SgtBrutalisk 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
            People police themselves by using male/female, since "man" and "woman" imply maturity or age.
            [–]soultrain776 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            So that makes it right? Saying male or female juvenile or male child or male infant or male adult is much more accurate than saying just male or female. Male or female what? Human beings, dogs, cats, rats, they all can be both male or female. Genders qualify something, not name something. Police should be specific, above all. Again, there's a specific name for male and female human being: man and woman. Those words exist and that's a fact.
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