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[–]PhoQus 150ポイント151ポイント  (20子コメント)

Why would you do a proportional comparison? It seems obvious to me that they mean rate as in kills/second.

[–]danpilon3✓ 77ポイント78ポイント  (10子コメント)

I know right? Of course the proportional comparison doesn't yield 17 days, because if it did, all animals would go extinct in 17 days. Clearly the comparison is by number not percent.

[–]2mice 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

yea, so technically because the word "rate" was used, that's why he did it that way? even though it's obvious that was not the intention of the vegan?
I heard from some documentary or something that there are 4 million animals killed per hour. not sure if that's true, but if i did the math right (and i probably didn't do it right, because apparently vegans can't do much) then it would take roughly 73 days to kill all humans.

[–]RiPont [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Ignoring the obvious, though.

Under the stated premise of the image, it's humans killing each other. The rate of killing would necessarily shrink as there were fewer humans available to kill each other.

[–]jaebul [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Get your fucking shit together, OP. Also, who upvotes this shit?

[–]Borax 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is the internet, there is always a neckbeard pedant waiting to pick apart an argument they don't agree with so they can avoid considering the argument on its merits.

It's like an ad homiem attack. Cheap yet effective. Fucking neckbeards.

[–]saucercrab [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And I'm sure the "animals" being referred to are simply food animals, whether it be through fishing, hunting, or farming. THOSE rates are well-documented and are nowhere near the total number of existing animals on the planet.

(For the record, I'm not a vegan)

[–]Amtays 111ポイント112ポイント  (15子コメント)

This is a really unfair interpretation, if you run the numbers for the pure rate, 150 billion a year, and not proportional you get almost exactly 17 days.

[–]HackPhilosopher 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

Please explain to me why you think they are talking proportionally?

It seems to me that if they were talking proportionally they would also be saying they we would run out of animals to kill in 17 days.

[–]That_Guy381 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is two ways to interpret this, if you're doing it by percentage of total amount.

Since the OP had "rate" it could be determined either way.

[–]Surleschemins1✓ 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The interpretation is obviously different from the assumption behind the quote. Which is about slaughtered animals, not ants or something.

The average killed beef is 36 months old. That's one third of the population killed every year.

If we killed the human population (N = 7 000 000 000) at the same rate, accounting for a natality rate of 1.3% and a mortality rate of 1%, it would take : n = ln(N)/(-ln(2/3+0.3/100)) = 50.4 years for all humankind to be dead.

[–]Salanmander7✓ 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

This reminds me of this xkcd.

[–]xkcd_transcriber 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]AsidK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Man xkcd somehow has a comic to match every situation

[–]wcbuerste [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is not a math problem but just a different interpretation of the question. The 'vegans' did the math, since the absolute numbers add up. Trying to manipulatively undermine their point, which for me is a very reasonable one, is quite the dick move.

[–]KindPlagiarist [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm as unconvinced by veganism as the next guy, but at least I didn't post this.

[–]anarchistica [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

150.000.000.000 seems very low. According to the US government some 60.000.000.000 animals are killed to provide meat and fish in the US alone.

[–]lurano [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you are going to be a pedant like this why not take it to an even further extreme. There in an unaccountable and possibly infinite number of animals that may exist in the universe so really humans are only killing 150billion/infinity animals which is zero animals so really vegans kill as many animals as all of the lions in Africa. Seriously though, why would you do this as a percent. killing a percent of something cannot reduce that number to zero no matter how many iterations you make....

[–]austin1011232✓ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You are saying there are 3 BILLION animals for every single human? That's gotta be counting a lot of insects, zooplankton, and other things vegans still eat.

[–]lestofante [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He point out 1e-9 % of animal population get killed every day.

Every day 150.000 person dies(that is the most common number on the internet,so it must be true), this is 1e-5 % of population

So in proportion we kill 10000 times more human population than animal population.

There is more blood on the phone, computer, dress and all your possession made in some 3rd world country than on a steak of meat.