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[–]TedyCruz [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

Yep, I've seen "conservatives" destroy the meaning of the word in Europe, PP in Spain, Berlusconi in Italy.. Same happened in France and the UK with Cameron.

The establishment is not full on Conservative, but Rubio and even Kasich are more conservative than Trump is.

[–]blood_Smoke [スコア非表示]  (27子コメント)

They are more socially conservative, which will be a liability in a general election, Rubio being on the record not supporting abortion in rape and incest cases....this isn't a majority belief in the Repub party at a voter level. Rubio is 100% onboard for the TPP, even voted to fast track it, Kasich atleast wants to see the details before he ships jobs overseas.

[–]lunchbox86Moderate Republican [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

No, fuck that. Don't try to make this about "we need a moderate to win". I've been a moderate republican for years. Trump is not. Is he less religious than the others? Sure. But he's more nationalist/populist/extremist (if you even believe his rambling nonsense). He openly advocates for war crimes!! He's a con man at best, a psychopath at worst, and if you think he's going to win in November you're delusional.

I've never liked Ted Cruz, but holy shit you fuckers have got me supporting him now.

[–]blood_Smoke [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Obama commits war crimes on a monthly basis, every drone strike that kills a civilian is a war crime, Bush in retrospect committed war crimes. When i weigh Trump condoning torture with Trump wanting to get out of the middleast and talk with our enemies I'm seeing a peace not war mentality, but if you force our hand we will bomb the shit out of you....should have been our position from the beginning. I'm also not a one issue voter, and while i cringed at the last debate when he basically said if he tells soldiers to something they will do it for him, it made him look worse to me, but it didnt make anyone else look better. I never expected to win in November and I blame the GOPe for that, Trump imo is our best chance, just seeing all the blue color dems he is bringing in, and this isn't the news telling me, this is me, working at East Penn Mfg in PA and seeing my co workers, life long dems, going out and registering as repubs just to vote for Trump in PAs closed primary. If we run Cruz in November, it will be the biggest blowout in recent history, it will be hard to argue that point, Clinton and Cruz match up on a lot of non-social issues and are polar opposites when it comes to social, the media loves social issues and they will pummel Cruz's bigoted views into the ground which is also why liberal rags like dailykos, the daily beast, buzzfeed, and gawker are pushing for Cruz to overtake Trump, they can't wait to destroy him.

[–]Mister_Johnson3 [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Cruz's bigoted views

Source please

[–]danger2society [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

[–]Mister_Johnson3 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Cruz is responsible for the words of another? You're an idiot.

[–]White_N_Gold [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

People were getting on Obama for being with that crazy pastor guy. What's the difference.

[–]Mister_Johnson3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Obama frequented his church and looked up to him as a mentor. In regards to Cruz attending the conference (BTW the only time Cruz and Swanson have met), Cruz's spokesman, Tyler, called Swanson’s comments “reprehensible” and said Cruz has spoken out repeatedly against anyone who calls for hatred or violence against homosexuals.

“Senator Cruz is passionate about religious liberties” Tyler said in an email. “Many respected organizations were sponsoring [the conference], but, given these offensive comments, it was a mistake for Senator Cruz to appear at the event.”

This is completely different from Obama attending the church of and respecting a nut job.

[–]Dorsid [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why hasn't he disavowed them yet?

[–]Mister_Johnson3 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

He did. Unlike Obama and his racist long-time pastor.

[–]Dorsid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He did? When?

What about Mike Bickle. Has he disavowed him yet?

[–]Dorago1991 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Ted Cruz has literally zero chance of winning the election. He's way too socially conservative. People who would otherwise consider themselves republicans are sick of the religious zealotry. People are sick of the gay bashing, the war on drugs, and the Bible thumping.

[–]lunchbox86Moderate Republican [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Maybe. Hey, as I said, I never liked the guy all that much, and I'm not super thrilled with him being the guy. But, holy shit, is Trump a billion times worse. But don't take my word for it. He's got one of the highest unfavorable rating of anyone since Carter.

He's also the only one who CAN'T beat Hilary in November.

[–]Dorago1991 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The thing is, this doesn't account for what's going to happen in the future. Cruz is going to look god awful when he tells Hillary that women shouldn't be allowed abortions no matter the circumstance, or when they bring up his association with a man who preaches killing gay people, or when he starts Bible thumping likes he does all the time. I know as a non-Christian a Ted Cruz presidency absolutely terrifies me. There are a lot of fiscal conservatives around, but social conservatism is dying. When Trump gets up there with Hillary he will have two advantages. One, he's pretty moderate socially, especially with things like the drug war and the anti-gay sentiment that has been making the republicans look like idiots, and secondly, he's not an politician. He doesn't have to worry about looking bad for future elections and he won't play nice at all. You better believe he will run a fucking scorched earth campaign against Hillary. Every scandal, every donation, every lie, every backtrack, every sellout, he will shine the worlds biggest spotlight on all of it. He's gonna gut her like a fish on national tv, and I think he will honestly beat her if they end up as the candidates. Trump and Bernie are both bringing out a lot of independent and first time voters, and those votes won't transfer to Hillary or Cruz

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

We've tried running moderate candidates twice now, and have failed both times.

You want to see a third failure?

[–]blood_Smoke [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I have a hard time seeing McCain has a moderate when he wants to send troops all over the world, and Mitt was flawed in 100 different ways, and I would never consider someone who is so involved in the Mormon church to be considered a moderate on any social issue.

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

McCain was on par with Obama, to the point where people couldn't really tell the difference.

All you're doing is evaluating Republican candidates on social issues, not their entire library of policy positions.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Rubio being on the record not supporting abortion in rape and incest cases....this isn't a majority belief in the Repub party at a voter level.

Are you sure? Abortion is always viewed negatively, even by some secular leftists. You're punishing the child for the sins of the parents. It's barbaric in that sense alone.

[–]blood_Smoke [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Considering most polling on the issue puts about 20% of people under the no abortion category, yea im pretty sure the majority of the country is in support of abortion especially in rape and incest and mothers health. Keep fighting the good fight though, its only been legal for 40+ years at this point. but dont take my word for it http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Keep fighting the good fight though, its only been legal for 40+ years at this point.

Legality does not equal morality. People are idiots. This is why the libertarian movement sucks sometimes. It's almost too hands-off on stuff like abortion where this mindset of "not my circus, not my monkeys" lets other people be barbaric and destroy human life out of convenience. It is good and right for the government to step in sometimes and say "hey, you know what? It's not alright for you to kill your unborn children". It's stuff like that which goes along all too easily with the radical feminists who say my opinion on abortion is invalid because I have a dick. That's like telling people their opinions on 1st degree murder are invalid because they would never kill anyone. This whole mindset about letting people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt you can only go so far until you reach a line where government should actually do it's job and provide protection under the law.

[–]Dorago1991 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The problem is where you define it as human life. I'm sorry but a grouping of cells isn't a human being to me. You can tell me how I'm a barbarian for wanting to kill children, but nothing you can say will convince me that a barely formed embryo is a human being. I'm fine with putting week limits in, which is something everyone would need to compromise on, but banning abortion in any and all circumstances will turn off so many people.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I'm sorry but a grouping of cells isn't a human being to me.

By the strictest definition, you're a grouping of cells. The value that someone else places on you does not diminish your intrinsic value.

but nothing you can say will convince me that a barely formed embryo is a human being.

Unique human DNA? The fact that obvious features develop very rapidly? If an embryo is not human, what else can it be? Just because it cannot walk and talk yet does not mean it's not human and shouldn't be protected.

[–]Dorago1991 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It will some day be a human, but no I don't consider it a human being. You are welcome to disagree, I'm not one of those people that thinks pro-life=you hate women, I get its a touchy and complicated topic. It's just my opinion that an 8 week old embryo isn't a human.

[–]Fmeson [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I respect your desire to protect human life. I think it is quite noble. However, I have some food for thought for you and would be interested to hear what you have to think:

HeLa cells are a human grouping of cells (if you aren't familiar with them, you should look them up as they are quite interesting). I don't think anyone would argue that they are human and deserve the same rights as humans though.

So that tells us there is something more to humanity than just having human DNA or cells. What you touched on in your last point is actually hinting at just this too. It cannot walk or talk yet. So there is some sort of notion of development or growth needed.

(I am guessing) In your view, an embryo's inevitability to become an adult human classifies means it deserves protection. However, lots of people would instead look for some other developmental milestone before treating the embryo as a human.

This position is no less or more inherently morally correct than your position.

One reasonable milestone is before the embryo has any chance to have self-awareness. After all, self awareness seems to be a very important aspect for people to judge personhood. Stick with me for this thought experiment: imagine you have a fully functioning disembodied head (ala head in a jar) and a fully functioning disembodied arm on life support. Is pulling the plug on the arm murder? Not in my opinion. Arms are important but not people. Is pulling the plug on the conscious, self aware head murder? Absolutely in my opinion.

From this perspective, if the fetus lacks the ability to think or be conscious it does not seem to be human. So, again from that perspective, it seems morally ok to terminate a fetus before it has a chance to gain consciousness or self awareness.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From this perspective, if the fetus lacks the ability to think or be conscious it does not seem to be human. So, again from that perspective, it seems morally ok to terminate a fetus before it has a chance to gain consciousness or self awareness.

So shall we then practice euthanasia on the retarded and elderly who demonstrate little or no cognitive ability? Self-awareness does not determine value either.

[–]ashtron7 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You've got the answer in your post already. It's not murder to pull the plug on the arm because the arm is not and never will be a self-aware human being. That's not the case with an embryo.

[–]tellman1257 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I respectfully disagree, /u/TedyCruz, and I look forward to vote for Trump in the primary and in the general election.

[–]TedyCruz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

and thats your right! But forgive me if I seem rude while I try my hardest for America to not go down the drain just like us Europeans did.

If you are to take anything away from my comment, is that every time you hear the word "tariff" you should think "tax". America miles ahead or any other country in the world because of free market. Do not let ANYONE, no matter how good of a salesman they are tell you otherwise.

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (76子コメント)

The problem is that most Americans don't care about supporting Israel or the debt. Ted Cruz on the other hand makes this his biggest issue which is why He will never get elected and why Donald trump is beating him everywhere. The Crazy evangelical gimmick does not work outside of texas and some southern states.

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (22子コメント)

Supporting Israel

Maybe. I haven't heard Ted talk about this much.

The Debt

Are you kidding me? Most Americans are VERY concerned about the debt.

[–]Zeonic [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Pulling from his campaign page... https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/stand-with-israel/

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

I didn't mean to imply that Ted Cruz doesn't stand with Israel. It's a good thing that he does IMO. What I meant to say is that he hasn't talked about it much.

[–]dontfeartheReaperXIV [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Recently we haven't heard much from Ted Cruz besides the fact that he isn't Donald Trump. Personally I think he can really only run an anti-Trump campaign for so long. Unless he gives the anti-Trumpers something to get excited about, most of those anti-Trump votes will just start staying home.

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Ted Cruz, unlike Trump, doesn't need to constantly refer to his conservative record because he's always been conservative. Trump changes his mind every few seconds. Once Cruz starts consistently beating Trump he will start focusing his attacks on the other Liberals - Hillary and Bernie.

[–]Metafx [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

And when is that going to start happening...?

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

As soon as Rubio and Kasich get out. Cruz does well in Closed primaries and caucuses (like Idaho and Kansas) and after the 15th, 17 of the remaining 20 states have closed primaries.

[–]zissou149 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Does that worry for the general election though? Would we be better off with a candidate who takes more moderate votes from democrats but doesn't energize the conservative base?

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How did that work with Romney and McCain? With Ted Cruz in, we have HUGELY increased our primary numbers. The democrats' primary numbers have declined... let's face it: Sanders will not win and Clinton is not nearly so exciting as Obama. She won't get out the vote, and Ted Cruz will. Trump appeals to 36% of the population - regardless of political opinion. I don't think he would energize the base enough to win either.

[–]Metafx [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Nevada was a closed caucus and Trump won 45.9% to Cruz's 21.4%. It seems to me that what Cruz really does well in is certain geographic areas and not types of primaries.

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nevada is the exception to the rule. Of the closed primaries, Trump has won 4 (with Cruz placing a close second in 2 of them). Cruz just does better among republicans, while Trump, a flaming liberal, does better with the democrats.

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Most Americans? Liberals 50% OF THE COUNTRY have zero concern of the debt, the centrist that trump brought in have zero concern of the debt. Trump is winning because hes making the republican party about America First not about paying back money to the fed and banning abortion clinics and stopping subsidies because they cost too much money.

[–]mcooper3223 [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

I don't know if it's they don't care about the debt, but that they think the way to fix it is to collect more taxes to pay it down while creating more programs, vs our view of cut the programs to stop the spending

[–]ABroadIdiot [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Not only that, but the left wants to create programs to help generate wealth. Social programs to help the disadvantaged become producers.

[–]Ben_Stark [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I consider myself pretty far right, and I have been saying for years that social programs should be focused on getting people educated/trained and finding them jobs. Getting people into vocational programs where they can learn skills that will limit them only to how hard they want to work. Provide them with birth control (more than just pills and condoms) and child care. We need to adjust our way of thinking in terms of early childhood education. We need to teach having pride in the work you do and having respect for others and their property at the forefront of our education system. We need to enforce the laws of the land when it comes to things like immigration, gun crime, etc.

[–]ABroadIdiot [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I don't think it's an ultra rare opinion among even the farthest right. It seems the right vs left differences here are matters of A) implementation, and B) deciding what leads to productivity.

[–]jkvandelay [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I agree. I'd say people on the right want to stop allowing a victim mentality and encourage the states, counties, and other more local municipalities to support their communities, and give the individuals a chance to rise up and create as opposed to take take take from the rest of the nation.

Federal social programs are nothing more than redistribution of wealth to people they determine are deserving of the handout. A more local level program would be much more efficient with education and assessing the needs of its community.

Sidenote:

This is why I find it so interesting that large urban areas, like LA and NY, tend to vote blue. It's well-known that some of the worst areas in these towns are crucibles for crime, gangs, drugs, and poverty, especially among minorities. They support large social policies, swing blue, but yet nothing ever gets better because it's still well-known that these areas are tough. In my opinion, it clearly must be time to try something else.

[–]ABroadIdiot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You clearly care enough to have a deeply thought out opinion. You're doing a disservice to our country if you aren't politically active.

[–]shibery [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you for not being crazy, like many self proclaimed far right people.

[–]Carpeaux [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's going to be about as successful and as efficient a way to spend money as your regular Government program.

[–]The_Gray_Pilgrim [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Liberals 50% OF THE COUNTRY have zero concern of the debt

Longtime lurker here, thought I'd add my two cents. While liberals have differing opinions on how to handle the national debt, to say they have literally no concern with it is disingenuous. I certainly agree with your assessment of how/why Trump is sweeping the republican primaries though.

[–]mrsmeeseeks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Trump mocks the Saudis, he has demonstrated that America isn't the tail in this relationship whereas Cruz wants to power bottom for every donor to his campaign.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (46子コメント)

supporting Israel

Why is this so important again? For younger folks like myself, Israel is becoming more of a liability then a tool to check communist aggression in the Middle East.

the debt

I feel as time goes on, evidence shows that worrying about the debt is irrelevant, especially at near-0% interest rates on it. Countries continue buying our debt at 0% is basically free money we can use to re-vamp our armed forces, our infrastructure, etc. Now is the time to take on debt while its cheap, not expensive.

Also... if you're not willing to take on debt, then are you then willing to raise taxes? Probably not.

[–]MonkeyTreat99 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why is this so important again? For younger folks like myself, Israel is becoming more of a liability then a tool to check communist aggression in the Middle East.

For real. I've got nothing against Israel, but it isn't America and I don't really care about it.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

Also... if you're not willing to take on debt, then are you then willing to raise taxes? Probably not.

Keep taxes the same and cut spending and we'd be on our way to reducing debt. Instead we can't even reduce the rate of spending.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

What do we cut while remaining electable?

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Departments and programs that are failures. Commonly suggested ones are the EPA and Department of Education. The TSA could be disolved as well. We could and should drop O-care and let the free market drive down costs for healthcare. And of course we can start looking at entitlement programs, government subsidized student loans, and other programs that have backfired.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

Departments and programs that are failures. Commonly suggested ones are the EPA and Department of Education. The TSA could be disolved as well.

That'll never happen. At best you're better off with a policy change on narcotics and dismantling the DEA police state.

We could and should drop O-care and let the free market drive down costs for healthcare.

Yes, because this was happening before Obamacare was instituted. While it was a bad law, what came before wasn't much better.

And of course we can start looking at entitlement programs, government subsidized student loans, and other programs that have backfired.

Drops in a bucket fiscally speaking. Entitlement programs are bad, but they cannot be eliminated without replacement.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

That'll never happen.

Why not?

At best you're better off with a policy change on narcotics and dismantling the DEA police state.

Sure, add that to the list.

Yes, because this was happening before Obamacare was instituted. While it was a bad law, what came before wasn't much better.

We didn't have a free market system beforehand.

Drops in a bucket fiscally speaking.

Entitlement programs are the bulk of federal spending.

but they cannot be eliminated without replacement.

Why not? Draw them down slowly and let states decide whether or not they will implement their own programs.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Why not?

Because you need to get elected to do that, and the idea of removing those departments is unpopular. Most folks either are indifferent or like both departments. Remember, the EPA came about in a period of US history where towns were poisoned and rivers were catching fire. There were legitimate concerns which run to this day. Same with the ED.

Sure, add that to the list.

Odd, because generally the War on Drugs polls well with many on the Right.

We didn't have a free market system beforehand.

Then it isn't enough to repeal Obamacare, but to replace it with a Free Market approach. I prefer three main changes:

  • Dissolution of "state lines" for competition among insurers
  • Taxing employer healthcare benefits (the fact they aren't is a holdover from FDR and the New Deal)
  • An independent Federal Health Insurer akin to the USPS to compete with insurers while also providing a subsidy to their operation. This would also replace Medicare/Medicaid.

Entitlement programs are the bulk of federal spending.

Again, it's very unpopular to get rid of them. What do you cut? The VA? Social Security? Unemployment?

Replacing them is possible. What are your thoughts on rolling housing subsidies, food stamps/WIC, unemployment, and welfare into a Universal Basic Income style system? Perhaps call it a Citizens Dividend, paid out bi-weekly to all American Citizens over 18.

As for the VA, would you be willing to scrap the entire system and pay for top-tier health insurance for current and retired military members?

Why not? Draw them down slowly and let states decide whether or not they will implement their own programs.

Because the dirty little secret is that the States simply don't have the money to do it. Sure, someplace like NY can do it with its locus of Wall Street and the money going through there... but what about Pennsylvania? Kentucky? Montana?

Remember, the wealthy states subsidize the poor ones here so that we can all partake in a decent standard of living.

Heck, if it weren't for Federal intervention, we'd still have people living in shacks without clean water and power in parts of the country.

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

the idea of removing those departments is unpopular.

Got any polls for that statement?

Remember, the EPA came about in a period of US history where towns were poisoned and rivers were catching fire. There were legitimate concerns which run to this day. Same with the ED.

So? That was back when communism and socialism were also viewed as threats, but people have forgotten about that. The argument to make is simple: The states can do those jobs better.

I prefer three main changes:

I think those would be a decent compromise. The state lines issue would probably be the biggest help, but at the same time, we've got to get rid of fines for not having health insurance and let people chose their coverage.

Again, it's very unpopular to get rid of them. What do you cut? The VA? Social Security? Unemployment?

Social security can go, I think that one is easily winnable. It's going to implode on itself sooner or later anyway. The VA can stay, but it needs better oversight. Unemployment benefits should go and those programs can be run by the states where they can do a better job of ensuring people are looking for work.

What are your thoughts on rolling housing subsidies

I generally dislike subsidies.

food stamps/WIC

Should be a purely states program.

unemployment

Again, states.

welfare into a Universal Basic Income style system?

States issue, but welfare should come with randomized drug tests, just enough to scare people. And I think we're a long, long ways off from anything resembling basic income.

As for the VA, would you be willing to scrap the entire system and pay for top-tier health insurance for current and retired military members?

Maybe if it wouldn't totally resemble Obamacare. The problem with contracts between the fed and businesses is that the businesses always overcharge and the fed always overpays. If it's done, it needs to be competitive and allow for bidding on the part of the insurance companies. OR, give military veterans a voucher to be used to pay for insurance but nothing else.

Because the dirty little secret is that the States simply don't have the money to do it. Sure, someplace like NY can do it with its locus of Wall Street and the money going through there... but what about Pennsylvania? Kentucky? Montana?

Ok, so imagine for a moment if you will, that we keep all spending in place, all programs, and all of that stuff the way it is, but have the states run all of it. What happens to federal taxes? They drop to almost nothing. State taxes increase to as much as federal taxes were before. The money is there, but all of it goes to the feds, I'm simply suggesting that we re-route it to the states and only pay taxes to the feds for the bare minimum. The whole advantage to letting states do what they want to do is that the average citizen has more power over his government and that states will run tighter budgets than the fed with less waste overall.

we'd still have people living in shacks without clean water and power in parts of the country.

Heck, despite federal intervention we still have people living in shacks without clean water in some parts of the country. Where I grew up there were people on dirt floors. In flint Michigan homes in the area are abandoned and the water is toxic. The federal government isn't the end all. It has a place, but most of what they do isn't in the job description.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Got any polls for that statement?

Nope. But it doesn't invalidate it... especially in the wake of things like Flint. I doubt the American public, upon hearing thousands being poisoned by lead are going to want to dismantle a government agency dedicated to stopping that.

So? That was back when communism and socialism were also viewed as threats, but people have forgotten about that. The argument to make is simple: The states can do those jobs better.

Can they? Say you have one state with a river which flows into another and it pollutes it, how would the receiving state handle that?

More importantly: without the EPA, we've seen what America was like. People dying needlessly from pollution and having lower air quality and health outcomes.

Sorry, but no one wants the US to become like China where people need masks to make it through a bad smog day. That's in our past thanks to the EPA.

I generally dislike subsidies.

Do you own a home or plan to? Well then goodbye to your Mortgage Interest Deduction, literally the biggest gimme to 1st time homeowners in the US.

Social security can go, I think that one is easily winnable. It's going to implode on itself sooner or later anyway. The VA can stay, but it needs better oversight. Unemployment benefits should go and those programs can be run by the states where they can do a better job of ensuring people are looking for work.

Literally no candidate ever has made it into office (or held one) on the plank of "Social Security has to go", much less a Republican one. This is a deeply contentious issue for a demographic that Republicans/Conservatives depend on.

Other programs are incredibly popular, like UI, which basically kept people on their feet throughout the 2008-now Recession.

Ok, so imagine for a moment if you will, that we keep all spending in place, all programs, and all of that stuff the way it is, but have the states run all of it. What happens to federal taxes? They drop to almost nothing. State taxes increase to as much as federal taxes were before. The money is there, but all of it goes to the feds, I'm simply suggesting that we re-route it to the states and only pay taxes to the feds for the bare minimum. The whole advantage to letting states do what they want to do is that the average citizen has more power over his government and that states will run tighter budgets than the fed with less waste overall.

Except state taxes can't get blood out of a stone. In this scenario, places like NY, California, and other denser and metropolitan states thrive while more rural and sparsely populated ones suffer.

This is a bad model for conservatives as a whole as generally more Red states benefit today than they would without an over-arching Federal framework to redistribute funding.

Heck, despite federal intervention we still have people living in shacks without clean water in some parts of the country. Where I grew up there were people on dirt floors. In flint Michigan homes in the area are abandoned and the water is toxic. The federal government isn't the end all. It has a place, but most of what they do isn't in the job description.

Yes, but the problem is not as bad as it used to be. 50 years ago, it was much, much worse.

Listen, there is ideology and there is pragmatism. Conservatism demands a lot which simply will never happen or is so impossible to not be worth it. Can't we return to the days of fixing what we have now instead of demolishing the whole building and trying to start from scratch?

[–]nevershear [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I would just add there were plenty of decisions made in the build up to Flint's water crisis which could have prevented it from occurring if not for negligence at the local level and within Snyder's administration.

This is an important point for me because I am sympathetic with your views on state power. How can we be sure the Federal government's inefficient bureaucracy will not, or hasn't already, trickled down to the state level? Should we expect governments of smaller states to be able to handle the massive influx of tax funding if a tax plan similar to the one you proposed were put into place? I for one do not see the transition being seamless, but it is where I believe we should be heading.

[–]friendlyfire [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Social security can go, I think that one is easily winnable.

It's like you don't even know the history of social security. Or who it benefits (hint: old people vote).

[–]Chaere [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Not too familiar with our defense budget are we?

[–]well_here_I_amReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not too familiar with "mandatory" spending, are we?

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

The total defense budget is $600 billion, while medicare and healthcare spending is almost $1 trillion, and social security, unemployment, and other entitlement programs are right at $1.25 trillion. So sure, there's room to cut out waste from the military, but it's nowhere close to how much we spend on entitlements.

[–]IWantedAnotherOne [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

The deficit has gone down for 6 years in a row dude. That's a clear reduction in the rate of spending.

Did you mean something else, or did you actually claim the deficit is increasing each year?

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Something tells me you think the Clinton surplus was real.

[–]IWantedAnotherOne [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Now that your one-line-sarcasm jar is empty...

Care to come back to the subject with any evidence the deficit hasn't decreased for 6 years?

As far as I'm aware no one is around hollering about accounting gimmicks hiding 500 billion dollars.

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If the deficit is decreasing why are we continuing to raise the debt ceiling?

As far as I'm aware no one is around hollering about accounting gimmicks hiding 500 billion dollars.

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

It's been done before, numbers games never cease being played in the realm of politics.

If you actually believe there is some truth and honesty left in D.C....I've got a beach front property to sell you in Kansas.

[–]IWantedAnotherOne [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If the deficit is decreasing why are we continuing to raise the debt ceiling?

Do you understand the difference between the debt and the deficit? I ask honestly, because this question doesn't make sense.

The deficit is the yearly debt added to the total debt. The debt is still going up, thus the debt ceiling has to be raised, but the rate at which we spend is still going down if the deficit is going down. The person I originally replied to claimed that:

Instead we can't even reduce the rate of spending.

This is wrong unless you can somehow prove Obama has not reduced the deficit by 500 billion dollars. Pointing me to Clinton doesn't prove anything. That it happened before doesn't magically mean it's happening again.

Here's the public and intra-governmental holdings reports every day. Use the data and make your case. Don't point to 16 years ago as evidence for what's happening today.

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Why is this so important again? For younger folks like myself, Israel is becoming more of a liability then a tool to check communist aggression in the Middle East.

Supporting essentially the only 1st world country in an area where 3rd world is the norm is important

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

So? What does that have to do with america? Centrist who have never voted republican would be turned off by the radical support of Israel by some Republicans. It's simply not Americas concern what happens in Israel. If its a biblical thing then keep it in charities. Don't get America involved.

[–]PhillyWick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You forget that the evangelical base all believe that Israel plays a role in Armageddon, so they want to be part of a country that's on the winning side of that

[–]jbcgop [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You do realize over 2,000,000 jews immigrated to Israel after the Holocaust through American efforts with the U.N.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At the displacement of people who at that point were living there far longer. Why should the Palestinians be punished for German crimes?

This is exactly why the whole area is a shitshow today. We meddled there as our government meddles with us here.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Can't they support themselves? Being a 1st world country and all that?

Also, they tend to antagonize their neighbors a bit too, so this isn't really a black/white issue for me.

[–]blood_Smoke [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Want to know the real reason why Repubs support Israel above all else? Because evangelicals are told since birth that Jews are gods chosen people and we must do everything we can to help Jews where ever we can. I can confirm, I was raised Born Again, and that doesn't even get into the whole Jewish people retaking their homeland to bring about the rapture which basically every new evangelical generation thinks will happen in their life time. Also why after the first Repub debate, 6 of the 10 repubs on stage for the main debate tied Israel into their answer when asked about what they would do for America.

[–]dreamsforsale [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Israel policy on the right was born of a really weird mix of wanting to pander to messianic evangelicals and core Jewish Republicans.

[–]BcTsarIvan [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Can't they support themselves?

You're joking right? Its one thing to say you don't care about Israel but don't pretend that the 7 million Jews have a hope in hell against the 400 million Muslims in the rest of the middle east without American help.

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

there's a thing called diplomacy which every state in the past 2000 years has used instead of going to constant war.

[–]BcTsarIvan [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Yes like the diplomacy that Israel uses to get the Americans to defend them. That's not going to work against the hundreds of millions of Muslims that hate Jews for the sake of hate Jews. You have three options support Israel, move all the Jews out of Israel or let Israel be destroyed. Not wanting to support Israel is a legitimate position just don't pretend that it is anything other then allowing genocide to happen.

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Hundreds of Millions?

There is no collective hivemind that wants to destroy Israel nor could they destroy their first world army. Israel can take care of itself. Its not America's purpose to prop up dying/warmongering states. America should be friends with muslims and jews and treat them equally.

[–]BcTsarIvan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes there are hundreds of millions of Muslims that hate Jews, only a small percentage of them would be willing to actually do it personally. But a small percentage of hundreds of millions is all it takes when the defender is only 7 million. And the middle east is third world in a lot of ways but their militaries are more then capable at destroying tiny Israel without American support. Also the only reason the Israeli military is any good right now is because of American help to benign with.

[–]desu45 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you know Palestinian guerrilla warfare is never gonna destroy Israel and the only reason the Palestinians are actually doing damage is because they are being occupied in some parts of Israel. There is no actual army in the middle east that could destroy israel and trying to paint them as the underdog is wrong since they have always been the strongest in the middle east since the 60s.

[–]Nick_Burns_ThatsMe [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The problem with racking up a huge debt now is that when rates go up, we won't be able to even pay the interest. Young people don't understand that, they should teach basic finance in highschool instead of this common core bullshit where they cut much of American history to teach about the koran

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The problem with racking up a huge debt now is that when rates go up, we won't be able to even pay the interest. Young people don't understand that, they should teach basic finance in highschool instead of this common core bullshit where they cut much of American history to teach about the koran

Ummm, I think it is you who doesn't understand how this works. When the government issues debt, it does so in bonds at the current interest rate (which is ~0%) which mature at a certain date. That rate is set.

Should rates go up later (when the economy improves), then taking debt carries that interest.

For example: take out a $1-2T loan, put it into refurbishing the 61,000 structurally deficient bridges out there and other infrastructure projects (road, rail, data). Every $1 spent on infrastructure generally returns about $1.44 to the economy.

In short: now is the time to borrow and spend.

[–]DeadHead13087 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Communist aggression? What? If you're referring to Russia you're a like 20 years behind. Russia is an authoritarian right wing government. And Israel is not a liability, Iran is.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

The big reason the US and Israel maintained close ties during the Cold War was to keep the ME divided against it and erode Soviet influence in the region.

[–]DeadHead13087 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

And? That doesn't mean Israel doesn't provide a purpose now. Israel is our biggest source of intelligence in the region. They provide an essential deterrent against Iran as well. This is aside from the fact that they kill a ton of terrorists in hezbollah, Hamas and al Qaeda. They're not helping us fight communism. They're helping us fight something worse. Plus the Jews need Israel to exist.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

At some point, the risk-rewards need to be assessed. Once the Israelis quit being useful (maybe when the Saudis run out of oil), then we should reduce our obligation to them.

Plus the Jews need Israel to exist.

No. They don't. The entirety of the Jewish Diaspora refutes this.

[–]DeadHead13087 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Where are you getting the information from regarding the entire Jewish disapora? That's patently false. Almost every Jewish organization in the world overwhelmingly take the position that Israel is essential to Jewish legitimacy around the world. Almost all of these organizations also provide a great deal of monetary support to the country and run campaigns in an attempt to persuade Jews around the world to visit the country.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You said the Jews cannot exist without Israel, when during the Jewish Diaspora (the time they were exiled from it until the 1950s) they in fact did. They existed just fine. Even within their own community there is a divide between the Zionists (nationalists and spirituals) and the anti-Zionists (seculars).

[–]DeadHead13087 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You are relying on very archaic and outdated information as it pertains to religious Jews. Regarding secular vs non secular, Zionism is a secular movement. Israel was founded officially in 1948. The Zionist movement had been going on for a long period of time before that, particularly, since the 1800s and promulgated by Theodore herzl. Jews endured a great deal of anti semitiism and persecution for hundreds of years. The concept of Zionism is that the reason why Jews were persecuted was because they did not have a homeland to call their own. That they did not have legitimacy in the world because of it. Israel was not the only choice for a zionistic state- there were others.

When Israel was first made into a state, yes, there were many Orthodox Jews who did not support it, mostly because of the theory that Jews should not be in Israel until the messiah comes. A RELIGIOUS reason. Alternatively, the secular Jews were all about it and favored the creation of the state. Once it became clear that the state was going to be created, the Orthodox Jews changes their tune and basically took the position of "well, if we're gonna have a state, we need to have a religious element." So David Ben gurion, first prime minister had to pull teeth to come to an agreement with the Orthodox Jews as to kosher food for the military, Jewish calendar, businesses in Jerusalem closed on the sabbath, etc. Ben gurion believed Israel should be a socialist state similar to the government of Switzerland and didn't care as much about the religious aspect. Again, it was a nationalistic/cultural reason behind Zionism, not religious.

As time has passed, almost every orthodox, ultra orthodox and Hasidic movement now overwhelmingly supports the existence of Israel. Secular Jews, generally, ALWAYS did. Zionism is a SECULAR movement. Once again, almost every mainstream Jewish organization supports and contributes to the state of Israel and believes it is necessary to Jewish legitimacy around the world.

What you're saying sounds like something I've heard Palestinians say. Not saying you support them, but non Jews have a very warped understanding of how Jews feel about the state as well as the history surrounding it. Not because they are divisive, but because people have put a lot of false information out there.

[–]AdwokatDiabel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You are relying on very archaic and outdated information as it pertains to religious Jews. Regarding secular vs non secular, Zionism is a secular movement. Israel was founded officially in 1948. The Zionist movement had been going on for a long period of time before that, particularly, since the 1800s and promulgated by Theodore herzl. Jews endured a great deal of anti semitiism and persecution for hundreds of years. The concept of Zionism is that the reason why Jews were persecuted was because they did not have a homeland to call their own. That they did not have legitimacy in the world because of it. Israel was not the only choice for a zionistic state- there were others.

Again, I disagree with this assertion that Jews need a state or, more importantly, are entitled to one. I've made my case here, but my argument is the displacement of Arabs in favor of Jews, especially when the Arabs were not at fault for the Holocaust is a distinct root cause of many of the deep divisions in the Middle East. I mean, what did they expect? That they'd all get along happily?

When Israel was first made into a state, yes, there were many Orthodox Jews who did not support it, mostly because of the theory that Jews should not be in Israel until the messiah comes. A RELIGIOUS reason. Alternatively, the secular Jews were all about it and favored the creation of the state. Once it became clear that the state was going to be created, the Orthodox Jews changes their tune and basically took the position of "well, if we're gonna have a state, we need to have a religious element." So David Ben gurion, first prime minister had to pull teeth to come to an agreement with the Orthodox Jews as to kosher food for the military, Jewish calendar, businesses in Jerusalem closed on the sabbath, etc. Ben gurion believed Israel should be a socialist state similar to the government of Switzerland and didn't care as much about the religious aspect. Again, it was a nationalistic/cultural reason behind Zionism, not religious.

I may have had it backwards then, apologies.

What you're saying sounds like something I've heard Palestinians say. Not saying you support them, but non Jews have a very warped understanding of how Jews feel about the state as well as the history surrounding it. Not because they are divisive, but because people have put a lot of false information out there.

Going back to the main point here, as an American, we shouldn't be providing a bulwark for an artificially created state that has displaced millions of people in the region and continues to do so today.

Supporting Israel is incredibly contentious, and may simply not be worth the blood and treasure to do so.

[–]yep45Constitutionalist [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Ted is running overall as a Constitutional Conservative and strong evangelical. He's making a broad-based play for the values of Evangelicals and political conservatives. I don't think he has any single issue he's staking his campaign on.

Trump, on the other hand, is basically basing his campaign on a tone and a personality rather than a set of policies.

[–]Ayy_1mao [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ted Cruz doesn't even appeal to more than 30% of the Republican party, never mind the rest of the country. He is despised by everyone who has ever worked with him and his endorsements originate from people who have never been forced to. Hillary would absolutely destroy him.

[–]DanburyBaptist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Crazy evangelical gimmick

A gross misrepresentation.

[–]mopiwan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm an American who is Jewish, so take this for what it's worth.

I still believe that what America stands for are (among some other things) universal rights, like God-given freedoms and liberties. There is a big chunk of the world that disagrees. There are governments who believe that the individual comes second to the government. There are also societies believe that the individual must worship according to an oppressive religious code.

In either case if these powers were to spread, and desire to impose their ideology on us, we would find ourselves at war.

In the case of Israel, they are a country that very much mirrors our values while being in the heart of our enemies. The middle east has it's sights set on Western culture. They are also increasing their ability to actually cause harm to us (thanks Obama).

In Israel, the US has an ally with it's finger directly on the pulse of what is going on over there. If we sit back and allow them to be overrun by a jihad, an attack on the USA will be soon to follow. Expressing that we support them reaffirms our own commitment to our values in the face of those who want to destroy the West.

[–]Alexlincoln2Cruzio [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Isn't that a little off topic? That's about broadening support but this is about the establishment hurting the base, and the base wants Israel as an ally

[–]aggressive_avacado [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I'm all for only nominating retired military from now on, this has become such a demoralizing shit-show.

[–]DanburyBaptist [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

They keep feeding on guys like Kasich and Jeb and Romney, and now look where we are. Facing a veritable ogre in a republican mask.

[–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Hate to break to to you, but that's his actual face. Someone did that to him.

[–]PvM_Magi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I heard he got plastic surgery 8 years ago when someone told him it would help him be president

[–]Alexlincoln2Cruzio [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, its being chipped away in any case.

[–]informedpatriotismCoolidge Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

the best part about conservatives is we will call our own party out on its bs. it is also the worst part about conservatives (when it comes to elections)

[–]presque_isle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We have this one but if you find a good cartoon, please at least x-post to r/ConservativeCartoons .

[–]bax101 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm more worried about this Cold War then the election. The Elites are in panic mode and don't want an outsider to run the country. So Obama wants to tear down what's left of America before the elections even happen.