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[–]2uiop 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

The idiot says "murdered by police" over and over again. Being killed by police is not the same as being "murdered by police." As if every death at the hands of the police is a murder...

This entire movement is not so much about police brutality/racism as it is about the pathetic socioeconomic states in which the black communities find themselves.

I'd like for someone to first explain to me why there are so many single parent households in the black communities. Please... someone explain why the fathers abandon their children at such a high rate. After you explain that to me and give good reason then we can move on towards the much less significant issues as to why their communities are so screwed up (aside from the obvious elephant in the room that they were oppressed for centuries).

Racism against Asians was/is real too. They keep their families together, they study hard, and they have thrived. It isn't rocket science. It is actually quite fucking simple.

[–]mikelj 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

After you explain that to me and give good reason then we can move on towards the much less significant issues as to why their communities are so screwed up (aside from the obvious elephant in the room that they were oppressed for centuries).

Just that minor thing called slavery, reconstruction and Jim Crow.

[–]2uiop -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh my gosh I totally forgot, thanks for reminding me. That totally excuses everything then...

Oh wait, so the starting point for blacks in the late 1960s was dramatically behind the starting point of Asian Americans?

[–]BassmanBiff 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it was, and pretending otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

[–]viiralvx 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing is, check the groups of Southeast Asians like the Hmong people, they have similar trends of poverty and haven't assimilated like Chinese-Americans or Korean-Americans. Stop trying to use the blanket term "Asian-Americans" when the same issues plague subsets of this group.

[–]2uiop -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So people are racist against those specific Asian groups? I would loooove to see white, black, and hispanic people try to tell the difference by selecting from a set of photos. "Which ones of these is the southeast asian that you are racist against and scheming to hold back in society?"

Please explain to me why those groups haven't been able to be successful, aside from their own cultures. If your culture doesn't work with capitalism, then either change your culture or start becoming okay with mediocrity.

It isn't the job of the rest of the country to develop total political correctness and complete understanding of every little culture so that we can all be perfectly equal together.

I've heard, but cannot confirm, that Asians are actually extremely racist against one another. Fascinating. The most racist and thus divisive race in the US is also on average the group that earns the most money. How does that work?

[–]Generic_On_Reddit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think trying to compare the history of Asian Americans and the history of African Americans is pretty difficult with dramatically different histories. (Rant Warning, might edit to cut it down and clean up as it's typed on a phone.)

There isn't any real answer to your question, but one can speculate with an understanding of black history/culture.

I'll submit one for your entertainment and I'm genuinely willing to discuss more possible factors with you if you're interested in theorizing: African Americans haven't been able to develop a culture (collectively) that is able to place value in the familial unit, pride in oneself, for one's people, etc.

When I think about the history and culture of all American peoples, there is one glaring feature missing in African American history: roots. There is no sense of cultural roots. Slavery, along with history in general, time, and other events, destroyed the average black person's connection to the past, to their family's past. (My family has tried to trace back our history and has only gone back no more than 150 years to a guy we barely know anything about.)

Could it be that without any sense of roots or legacy, blacks are less likely to have a sense of duty to continue or start said legacy?

But if you think roots and legacy aren't everything and familial value could be developed elsewhere, I think I'd agree, but also submit another factor. This lack of roots and undeniably constant sabotage of the black community makes it difficult to establish a culture. Which isn't a problem, culture doesn't have to be developed, it can be adopted, but there is nowhere to adopt from. I have already mentioned the severed ties to any possible African culture or values. The only other culture that can be adopted would be around them, but the culture African Americans were surrounded by, ie (general) American culture, is held by the same people that actively rejected them explicitly up to a few decades ago.

The point of all of this is: values don't come out of thin air. They have to develop with culture, but culture doesn't come out of thin air either. It has to take root, and there has been neither the time nor the conditions for this culture to take root.

I'm not saying this is the answer to your question, but it's something to keep in mind. I'd say every American ethnic group has something they can look back at and say "This is mine." Asians can look back on their respective countries or their immigrations. (Immigration stories are always inspiring, in my opinion. "My grandfather came to America with the clothes on his back and made something of it...." and all that jazz.) Whites can look at their European history or just know their family as apart of American history. I look back at my family history and anything of any importance is just a struggle against oppression. Anything before that doesn't exist. I could probably tell my ancestor's immigration story, but you've probably read it in a textbook already.

EDIT: Just a reminder that I mean just about everything in the general sense. For example, not every Asian/White/Whoever can or even wants to have a connection to the past. It's more about the culture that has been built out of it, regardless of individual connection.