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Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bullshit' (theguardian.com)

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[–]holocauster-ride 29ポイント30ポイント  (33子コメント)

PS: By work phone they mean the US government owns it and had ample opportunity to ensure they controlled it before giving it to the terrorist.

[–]blah6700 26ポイント27ポイント  (20子コメント)

The county owns it, not the US government.

[–]roryconrad005 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

county, state, and fed all separate. the "U.S. Government" is the federal gov.

[–]holocauster-ride [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

So the county isn't part of the government?

[–]AFuddyDuddy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it's run like most counties, their security policies are a joke of the highest magnitude

[–]smurphy1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Federal governments, state governments, and local governments are all governments but not part of a single bureaucracy. The constitution explicitly created the states as semi autonomous of the Federal government and not strictly subservient.

[–]FalconLorenzo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not part of the federal government, but rather a part of the state.

Pretty important distinction here in America.

[–]blah6700 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, counties are not part of the US Government.

[–]Bassiclyme [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not the Federal government, it would be part of the local government in the State of California.

[–]ghostalker47423 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Ya never know.

I came across a [large] school district in Florida that doesn't accept a US passport as a legitimate form of identification. I guess the sovereignty of the United States is questionable.

[–]Mike12344321 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Are you sure they weren't checking something that isn't on the passport? May be different because I'm not murican but for example when I get my drivers licence a passport is not valid because i have to prove my residency of a specific province.

[–]ragingprostate [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's probably exactly what it is, and it makes sense. For example, if I want to vote in a county election, bringing my passport won't suffice: I have to bring my voter registration identification to show I'm registered to vote in that county.

[–]OMG_Ponies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

they're likely looking for proof of state residency, not citizenship of the US. Passports don't do anything but the latter.

[–]HanlonsMachete [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Federal, State, and Local Governments are distinct entities in the US.

[–]Freeloading_Sponger [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The county is not part of the United States government, no.

[–]Neebat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The county is part of the STATE government. (Generally. May vary by state.) You said "US government" which is a whole different set of laws, law enforcement, bureaucrats and politicians.

[–]TheDodoBird [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Serious question: are you suggesting that these two were radicalized and led on by the FBI? I know it has happened in the past in other situations (in fact there is a documentary I've been meaning to watch on HBO about the practice), so it wouldn't surprise me but that is definitely a bold accusation.

Edit: Downvotes for a question? Jesus christ reddit. Thanks to those who responded though. I appreciate it.

[–]ShellOilNigeria [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I think he is saying that they could/should have been intercepting all the data off of it to begin with, since they are the government after all.

[–]holocauster-ride [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Or installing management software which would allow them to unlock the phone. I believe I read that this was standard best practice that was simply not followed in this office.

Additionally the suspect had recently travelled to Saudi Arabia, iirc which is an authoritarian regime with total informational awareness of all telecommunications in the country as well as full technical assistance from the NSA.

If we couldn't detect this guy was a terrorist, good luck detecting anyone.

[–]Mike12344321 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not even that they were the government, they were the phone's owner. It is my right to track every morsel of data coming or going from my property, even if others use it

[–]holocauster-ride [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Government agents 'directly involved' in most high-profile US terror plots

Is it much more bold than that mainstream media claim?

[–]shadowofashadow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/21/us-terrorism-prosecutions-often-illusion

Here's a good starting point.