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[–]brainfreeze91 [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

The joke is funny, but I feel like we also shouldn't encourage defacing opposing candidate's signs.

[–]randomnomnomnom [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

I think we should fully encourage this. Berni and supporters want to redistribute property by force, and this is a very good way to make a point without actually going in and taking their stuff to give to everyone else.

[–]GodHatesCanadaLibertarian [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

All taxation is redistribution by force, so unless you're voting for someone who wants to completely abolish taxation I don't think that argument holds water.

[–]randomnomnomnom [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Sales tax is voluntary, it's income tax and property tax that are done by force.

Abolishing taxation isn't the answer, the answer is a system that collects taxes through voluntary action.

[–]BritHumesPajamas [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

So just charity?

[–]randomnomnomnom [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

No, sales tax.

If I choose to buy a TV, I do so knowing the tax is part of the deal. I don't have to buy a TV, it's not necessary. Therefore, purchasing the TV is consent to taxation.

On the contrary, Income is essential. It's not guaranteed, but but it's generally accepted that an income is necessary for essentials.

If I earn income and don't pay taxes, I will be punished. This constitutes violent coercion.

Sales tax makes it so that I'm taxed on what I spend. If I don't buy a new TV, nobody is going to come and arrest me, garnish my income, assess fines and fees or seize my assets.

[–]PhosphorusV [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

How is sales tax voluntary? Can I opt out at the register?

[–]daringescape [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

No one is forcing you to buy whatever it is you are buying - you can grow food, trade with your neighbor, buy used, etc. None of those ways will force you to pay sales tax

[–]fareven [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

trade with your neighbor

Currently taxable, in the US. Not sales tax, but taxable.

[–]daringescape [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

wrong. That is if you barter within a network. (examples would be BXI or ITEX). Those are basically groups who set up a kind of barter brokerage, essentially creating their own currency.

There is no way for the government to tax you when you go to your neighbor and say "hey, I will build you a fence in exchange for a dozen of your chickens"

[–]optionhome [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What you suggest is way too logical for the average useful idiot. Just have a VAT tax. The more you spend the more you are taxed. No accounts, no rules, no exclusions.

And with skin in the game, even the low income idiots will start to wonder why they are paying a VAT tax for their coke and chips and maybe asking what exactly is the government doing with that money.

[–]Alexlincoln2UnityTicket2016 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Taxation's goal shouldn't be redistribution, which is just a means to an end. The enumerated responsibilities of the government are those ends. Taxation should never be an end in and of itself

[–]HITLERS_SEX_PARTY [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

wrong...they are all for taking people's money and 'redistributing' it, as if money were 'distributed' by a magic fairy in the first place.