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[–]OMGTheViking -34ポイント-33ポイント  (41子コメント)

Horse needs to be put down, definite attempt to kill the rider.

[–]herefromthere 9ポイント10ポイント  (26子コメント)

From the horse perspective, there is something on it's back, hurting it on purpose. The horse gave her plenty of warning. The tension, the twitching, the flicking of the tail. These are all STOP FUCKING DOING THAT signals. She is wearing big, pointy, metal things on the heels of her boots and kicking the horse in the sides as hard as she can.

The horse could very easily have killed her if it wanted to, but when it was rid of her all it did was get away.

/r/HumansBeingJerks

[–]sparrow664 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

if a horse ever "locks up" like this (butt tucked down, not moving forward) take the rains and turn the horse in a few circles to free it up, or else you get what happens to this girl

[–]herefromthere -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

And it is obvious to anyone watching who knows about horses, and anyone who knows about horses who is onboard.

Some people try to break horses by beating them until the horse does what they want. Is this an example I wonder?

[–]AcousticDan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you drink a whole bunch before making this post?

[–]sparrow664 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was just confused, didn't understand she wanted it to move forward but she kept pushing it. Horse is just fresh and didn't know what to do

[–]alonelyturd 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Imagine a dog, backed into a corner by a human. He's growling, snarling, showing his teeth, saying in every way he can "Back off, I'm scared and I'm willing to bite." Now imagine the human insists on reaching out to pet the dog, and sure enough they get bit. Does that dog deserve to be put down?

This horse is doing the exact same thing. This person is pushing his boundaries (pulling on a piece of metal in his mouth, jabbing pointy metal into his side). The horse's body language is saying "I am scared and in pain, I don't understand what to do to end the pain, and I want out of this situation." The rider ignores those signals and continues inflicting pain. So the horse uses the only trick he's learned that consistently gets him out of that situation.

A horse that's learned to flips like that, 99 times out of 100, was basically taught that move by a trainer who doesn't know how to train.

[–]OMGTheViking -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

That dog 9/10 times is going to be put down, assuming the person advancing on them wasn't torturing it, but you said pet...so it's basically a wild animal cornered and lashing out...never going to be a pet without lots of expensive therapy...people will just get a new puppy. I'm sorry but people will never take a risk on an animal especially when their children are involved with it.

[–]alonelyturd 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

But fearful aggression can easily be rehabilitated with a little knowledge and patience.

My point is that if a horse tells you he is scared and confused and in pain, and you keep doing the scary confusing painful thing to him, then it's not his fault you got hurt. Almost any animal can be pushed to the point that it lashes out in fear, and that doesn't mean the animal should be put down.

By your logic, every single horse should be put down because every horse starts out as an at-risk animal. Every horse is at best confused when people start sitting on it's back for the first time. Every horse will buck and rear if you put them in an uncomfortable situation without teaching them how to get out of that situation. Horses don't instinctively know to move away from pressure. They need to be taught that. Some people teach them that by hurting them until they move away from the pressure, but then you run the risk of the horse trying to escape the rider instead of trying to escape the jabbing in their left side.

[–]OMGTheViking 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I honestly wouldn't mind all the horses being put down as long as it stopped girls talking endlessly about what their pony did today. But your example was clearly an animal that needed therapy and rehabilitation, not every person approaching a dog assumes that it will react with aggression and fear, the most trusting group of humans ie. small children will approach this dog of yours to pet it and get attacked. I am quite sure that with a different rider, environment and lots of time and effort (and lots of money) this horse could be ridable...but noone who watched this gif would buy it or let their child ride it.

[–]alonelyturd 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Nobody's saying this horse should go to a home with inexperienced riders. That's what got this horse into this mess in the first place.

And it may not even take that much time/effort/money to help this horse. It might just take an experienced rider who knows to back off when the animal shows signs of distress.

[–]OMGTheViking 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not sure if this comment is looking for a response or not, sure it could probably happen with time and a good rider, doesn't change the fact that no-one will buy a horse that has tried to kill a rider...a young female rider at that, this horse knows nothing about what bad publicity can do. Dumbass short giraffe.

[–]alonelyturd 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Haha you've never spent a minute in the horse world. Because this behavior is obviously in response to incompetent riding, it won't necessarily deter a buyer who sees potential in the horse's athleticism or bloodlines and who has experience dealing with this kinds of behavioral issues.

[–]OMGTheViking 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Unfortunately my life has been entirely surrounded by horses, my father was an equine vet, jockey, equine science lecturer, bloodstock transport and owner/trainer of racehorses and hunters, my mother was a large animal vet and huntswoman, my sister a huntswoman, my girlfriend (now ex thank fuck) is a racehorse trainer and works on stableyards, personally I've broken, trained, herded and microchipped more wild horses than I can count, I've grown up around and lived with horses and horse people all my life and what bloodline atheticism are you seeing that I'm not?

[–]alonelyturd 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

So you know that people keep all kinds of crazy if they see some good in the horse. Obviously I don't know if that applies to this particular animal, but it's possible.

And you also should be able to see that this horse is responding to fear and pain. Because he's learned to flip, he'll flip the next time he's in fear and pain. But a good trainer will avoid that anyways.

And if you spent that much time around animals, then you already know that horses who flip like this don't all get put down, and how it's almost always a response to poor riding (as it obviously is in the clip). So you know how stupid your comment was in the first place.