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[–]TiePoh 125ポイント126ポイント  (36子コメント)

So, wait. You're 'free' in the country (but not to leave) and the only stipulation is that you serve 4 weeks in jail...and then you can return to what you love.

Instead you decided, out of pride, to waste 2 years of your life in a place that you hate, effectively hampering your future.

You really need to think this whole thing through, swallow your pride, get the hell out, and move forward with your life. Like, is it all worth it?

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't call it 'pride'. I'd call it immaturity and refusing to accept any responsibility.

[–]wandero 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or you can call it a "martyr/victim complex." As defined by Wikipedia:

In psychology a person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term victim complex, desires the feeling of being a martyr for his/her own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it either feeds a psychological need, or a desire to avoid responsibility.

emphasis is my own

[–]Varantain 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

to waste 2 years of your life in a place that you hate

He's in the same country as his girlfriend. That doesn't sound like a bad situation at all.

[–]TiePoh 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

He doesn't have a job, can't leave, and he said he hated it

[–]rockbrain 51ポイント52ポイント  (24子コメント)

When you were questioned on May 31, you answer to the question "Were you drunk during the whole incident?" was "Yes". In the statement from July 1st, you said "However I was not drunk..." Seems like you're a liar.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

He also said that he doesn't "remember a walkie-talkie", which is the same walkie-talkie that admitted to police on the scene that he had taken and thrown into the sea. OP is a lying sack of shit.

[–]JBIII666 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It looks like this AMA was a blast for you.

[–]Crentist_the-Dentist 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

How are you on reddit right now?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm in that Napoleon jail. I get an island to run around on.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 406ポイント407ポイント  (240子コメント)

Hold on. For one thing, you didn't say why the driver started shouting when you gave the address and you don't explain why the driver and your girlfriend both got out of the car. There's a lot of information missing overall here. Also, why did you go into the driver seat area when the engine was running?

You pushed him. You grabbed his phone off him and threw it away. You told him "I could kill you". To me, it doesn't sound like you're completely innocent at all here.

Edit: So, as the person below me linked the court documents, it gives way more information. He was standing out in the middle of the road to hail the cab, which is stupid. The reason the whole thing started was because the taxi driver didn't want to take them to the location they asked for and this guy refused to get out of the cab.

I suggest everyone read the court documents that were linked. The story given in there makes way more sense and is way more believable. I don't believe for one second that OP isn't guilty and it seems the courts agreed. I'm sorry for this, I really am, but the court documents paint a perfect picture of a gung-ho, drunk American, ex-forces idiot who thinks he is above other people and should get what he wants. Sorry, OP, I think you're guilty based on the court evidence and think your post is full of shit.

Edit: As suggested below, here's a link to court documents in question. I hope the uploader doesn't mind me sharing them again:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7C0I0I1Yz4nNVRXT05zTHVXOTg/view?pref=2&pli=1

[–]dadroidrigues10 88ポイント89ポイント  (22子コメント)

After reading the documents I feel the same, OP seems to be lying and/or manipulating things. Also I feel like you should add the link to the documents post to your comment since its the highest comment on the thread.

[–]NeedToUnsubscribe 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honestly, this. Reading his original post and comments it's very much someone who messed shit up, but believes there is not enough evidence for him to face up to what he did. I do believe that he genuinely believes that he did nothing wrong though.

[–]WhoMeNoHer 21ポイント22ポイント  (11子コメント)

Wow after reading this, Mr. Fitzgerald sounds like he's either lying or doesn't know how good human beings act. Is he seriously trying to say that if he say someone leaning into the driver side of his car and he didn't know what they were doing he wouldn't grab their shoulder to try and stop them? And then he goes on to say he pushed the guy but not meaning to cause harm, he would push his mom and he has pushed his grandma. Seriously? I don't feel bad for how he's being treated in the media. He needs to get a good look at himself and probably change his ways. Stop pushing old ladies, dick.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

He didn't push the poor guy. He pushed him 3 times, closed a car door on his leg as he tried to drive off and get on with his shift, punched him and threatened to kill him.

[–]dadroidrigues10 49ポイント50ポイント  (29子コメント)

That does sound weird as to why the driver would start screaming, my guess is he probably didn't want a drunk person in his cab. But it does seem like OP is leaving some stuff out, like why would you want to turn the engine off of a cab in a foreign land? Why didn't he go after his gf immediately who was sick rather instead of putting the engine off.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 41ポイント42ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah, if I left my engine running and saw someone getting into the driver seat, I'd call the cops too. Especially if the guy said he could kill me and took my phone and threw it away.

[–]dadroidrigues10 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think there was a need for him to threaten the guy in the first place, and shouldn't have pushed him either.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, considering the guy was trying to stop him getting into the driver seat of his car, which still had the engine running. Going in there at all smells fishy to me. Why would you try and turn off the engine. In this situation, I'd be asking what the fuck was going on, why people were shouting and where my girlfriend was going. Switching off the engine wouldn't even enter my head. I think the fact that he's been convicted and the dodgy story here means OP isn't being clear about everything. The cops know something, probably a lot of things, that we don't.

[–]Fantomfart 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks, judgement says it all. Tldr: drunk dumb fuckwit is lucky he isn't facing a much longer sentence.

6ft 3in ex us military special forces, drunk(drinking for approx 6 hrs), stands in highway to flag down a taxi, forces a taxi to stop. Enters taxi with drunk/sick girlfriend and gives a destination. 5ft 5in taxi driver refuses and asks them to leave, drunk starts argument, driver leaves car drunk throws drivers phone in sea then assaults driver and throws driver in a fountain.

Drunk thinks he can bullshit the courts in a former British colony without realising that virtually all legal systems in the world are based on the British legal system.

As the court said, the OP is not CREDIBLE

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're close, but you actually still make it sound better than it was. You've got the gist, but it wasn't a phone, it was the walkie-talkie he was using to call a friend that OP threw in the sea, he pushed the driver down three times, he also closed a car door on his leg, punched him to the ground and threatened to kill him if he followed him. That about sums it up.

[–]BrianGumble 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

Agreed. I think OP is full of shit, after reading the documents linked.

[–]goatsareeverywhere 66ポイント67ポイント  (28子コメント)

He's basically on a crusade to smear Singapore everywhere on reddit. You know what's the first thing he did with this account? Make a meme on /r/adviceanimals saying the Singapore law system is corrupt, how the taxi driver was the one who attacked him blah blah blah.

The fact is that he has been convicted by the non-corrupt Singapore law system for "causing hurt and mischief", as the exact words found in his conviction. This thread contains a google docs link to said judgement and all the facts are clearly listed out inside.

[–]picodroid 32ポイント33ポイント  (20子コメント)

In the assumption that he is guilty, what would be a reasonably sentencing for such a crime?

I'm not sure how it is in Singapore, but in America's court system it wouldn't land you two years. And that's what this guy has already basically served by being forcibly held within the country.

Their system may not be corrupt, but it sounds broken if it takes such a long time that you force a non-citizen to stay in the country for such a long time.

edit: Nevermind, it appears he has the option to pay like $800 and spend 1 month in prison. I can understand standing up for what you think is right, but if he's willing to sacrifice his time to stand up for his principles then he can do so. But it's not the court in Singapore forcing him to stay in the country, he is doing it to himself.

[–]sprucetrap87 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

Right, a more accurate title would be "IamA American who's currently staying in Singapore voluntarily (641 days and counting) in order to appeal a court decision for crimes that I admit to committing, but don't like the way the court documents are worded AMA!"

[–]goatsareeverywhere 35ポイント36ポイント  (7子コメント)

Basically, OP's a jackass. His problems are almost entirely self-inflicted. Furthermore, he got off pretty light; the maximum sentence is two years in prison for voluntarily causing hurt, and he only got away with a month. In the US or some other country, the punishment may have been lighter (no prison time for example), but if you decide to visit a foreign country, you are willingly subjecting yourself to the laws of said country regardless of how asinine you think these laws are.

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can understand standing up for what you think is right, but if he's willing to sacrifice his time to stand up for his principles then he can do so. But it's not the court in Singapore forcing him to stay in the country, he is doing it to himself.

I've said it once here and I'll say it again, and, once again, I'm sorry to the majority of Americans, but this smacks of the "I'm an American citizen" syndrome. He doesn't feel any other country has the right to tell him what to do and he thinks American culture, rules and law apply to the whole planet. They obviously don't, but some Americans simply don't get that and they get stubborn about having to accept that America is not the be all and end all. In my opinion, that describes this guy perfectly. The sort of person who would act in another country based on the laws of America without even bothering to think. "I can say what I want. It's a free country. I know my rights" is something he'd say in Saudi Arabia.

[–]littlesushibox 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah why was he trying to turn off the engine? Sounds like he was trying to steal the car to me to be honest.

[–]iamanoobis 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I would not want reddit as my lawyer thats for sure. I have to disagree here. Make sure you read both the prosecutors and the accused summary/testimony. Could OP have handled this better? Probably. However, allegedly, one of the officers told the defendant this is Singapore not hollywood in response for his request for an attorney. If thats true thats foul play by the police for sure.

I think we should be grateful for the system of government we have in the U.S. Guilty beyond reasonable doubt, right to an attorney, right to a jury trial, right to a speedy trial, these are all very important to the integrity of a trial. I am not saying Singapore doesn't have these qualities, but I do not think they are held to the standard they are here.

[–]contentBat 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP made the claim he said that. The cop in question denied it, and no one else heard it. There are too many holes in OP story that question credibility.

[–]Dreadedsemi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure Singapore requires evidence to be beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal trials. but even in the US the jury and the judge sometimes ignore this and people get convicted on circumstantial evidence or released despite evidence. Feel free to remember those famous cases and the less famous ones that appear in the news.

[–]Rook_Master 74ポイント75ポイント  (40子コメント)

Even your account of the events makes you look bad.

You run out into the middle of the street and jump into a random cab with your drunk girlfriend. The driver protests by getting out of the car, and then you enter the front seat and fuck with the ignition, then get out and assault him?

Sounds like you are where you should be. Hopefully in the future you don't take so many liberties with other people's bodies and property.

[–]bestofreddit_me 40ポイント41ポイント  (28子コメント)

Even your account of the events makes you look bad.

The guy has a victimhood complex. No amount of reasoning and facts is going to change it. If the government brought video evidence of his crime, he is going to complain about surveillance and invasion of privacy. People like this infest the US court system.

[–]thegoodstudyguide 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

In singapore, if I had plead guilty, it would have been a 2 week sentence most likely, and possibly a fine. Since I claimed trial, I'm not remorseful and deserve a longer sentence.

Quote from him further up in the thread, guy loves being the victim.

[–]wandero 10ポイント11ポイント  (24子コメント)

You're so right about the victimhood complex... I lightly browsed his past submissions, and apparently just a month ago, he tried to recruit people from r/singapore to reenact the crime scene

proof: https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/449qz5/who_wants_to_party_tonight/

[–]bestofreddit_me 10ポイント11ポイント  (13子コメント)

Yeah, after reading his comments, either he is a worldclass troll or he is mentally unstable. Maybe both. The guy looks and sounds like timothy mcveigh. He has such a huge chip on his shoulder that he is both very pathetic and very dangerous. It's hard for me to believe he is 31 years old and he was a navy seal ( I highly doubt it ). I bet if we dig a little, he wasn't a seal but maybe worked as a support for the military. In any case, the guy has delusions of grandeur. Lets hope he just stays away from the US. People like him are extremely dangerous.

[–]wandero 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I bet if we dig a little deeper, we will find that he is the OP of the Navy SEAL copypasta

[–]timothy558 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know you were baiting for this, so here's my attempt.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I let everybody know I was in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret trials in Singapore, and I have over 300 confirmed assault charges. I am trained in sympathy warfare and I’m the most wrongfully convicted sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another degrader. I will wipe you the fuck out with Reddit rallying the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking bullshit. You think you can get away with logic and reasoning to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my public network of Redditors across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the real perspective of the crime, maggot. The perspective that returns to me the precious little thing I call my life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, (as long as it's within Singapore, 11am EST = 12am for me) and I can push you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire consulate of the United States and I will use it to its full extent to try to get my miserable ass off the face of this continent scot-free, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy brigading your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shitpost this all over Reddit until you believe it. I'm fucking dead, kiddo.

[–]wandero 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, your an asshole. You want to scare me? OOH, big bad navy seal. 300 kills. Your such a bad ass! OH, I am SO sorry to have provoked your wrath! You should ask yourself, did I DIRECTLY challenge you? Did I TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY that I WANTED to beat your ass? No I did NOT! I said I was a pacifist. I even said I DON"T want to fight you. You should read the posts more carefully before you decide to lash out hatefully and threaten me. This was simply about how I don’t (lift? No, I do not lift things, if your talking about weights or something) or exercise, I don’t care to, and I don’t like bacon. You took this to a WHOLE other level. I was just defending myself from YOUR spiteful comment where you made fun of me for simply not liking bacon and that I don’t lift weights. You, and that other buddy of yours, should calm down. And you do not scare me. I’ve come close to death a few times, and I’m not scared of it. I accept it. I’ve been robbed before, and have felt the blade against my neck. And I’ve been fucked with and threatened my WHOLE life from ALOT of other people, even from my own dad! He is tough and unforgiving. I grew up in a military family. My dad graduated from West Point (Lt. Col) and fought in Vietnam, for your freedoms and mine, like that of freedom of speech (be it threatening, hateful, and mocking like yours) and mine (where I was simply standing up for myself when you made fun of me). And I am not a kiddo, I’m 30. And it’s funny how you click “like” on your own comments. How egotistical. I’m done now.

I haven't actually read this completely through so I apologize for any discrepancies

[–]MovingTreeh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just came to this post after reading he was a seal. I mean, theres prejudice involved, but i was like "mmm, im going to bet hes guilty, he punched someone and acted like his above the law".

And bam. I mean, you recieve a training to kill people and in use of violence. You need to be a great man to not get on the high horse and take advantage of that.

Theres not a lot of great mans.

[–]goatsareeverywhere 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

As far as I know, he is indeed an ex-navy SEAL, but was never deployed to an active combat zone. That's the only part that's not a half-truth or an outright lie.

However, he does indeed perfectly fit the navy SEAL copypasta stereotype.

[–]AGhostFromThePast 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed, he sounds like another jackass who thinks being a SEAL means he's a James Bond who is licensed by the American government to be violent without any consequences. Throw the book at him!

[–]NimmyFarts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a rash of SEALs running around Singapore being violent against people? Honestly when you hear about americans acting out overseas, you never heard of them being SEALs.

[–]Gurip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even your account of the events makes you look bad.

yup even from his post it makes him guilty and deserved 4 weeks jail time.

and if you read court document he is guilty 100%.

[–]sprucetrap87 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

In the court documents, it says you were charged with four weeks of imprisonment and an $800 charge or 4 days of imprisonment if you're unable to pay the fine. Yet, you claim that you've been incarcerated for over 600 days. Can you please explain that discrepancy?

[–]thegoodstudyguide 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

From what I've gathered he's fighting the charge (for the last 2 years) so technically he's not served any prison time yet, he's out and about but just isn't allowed to leave the country until the case is completed.

Not sure avoiding a 4 week jaunt in prison would be worth 2 years of my life in a country I don't want to be in.

[–]MovingTreeh 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont want to just rampage on the guy. But this is just making me reconsidering some things in life. In my own life.

Probably he just want to be into that position. Of "im hopeless because of the outside world". He cant leave. Cant work. And to move from that position he need to be a month in jail.

So, im just going to be here in this hopeless situation, negating reality, avoid taking responsibility of my shit and recognition that living life is dangerous, you like it or not. So im just stucked here because life is unfair with me. But i still have things to eat without working.

Damn. I need to change my attitude on my own life.

[–]sprucetrap87 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, thank you for clarifying.

[–]Morfolk 82ポイント83ポイント  (32子コメント)

I start to try to get another cab, but she's still walking away, and I don't see the driver. Go to turn off his engine, but there's no keys in the ignition (2012 Chrysler's have a remote fob).

Were you trying to turn off his engine? Why?

At no time did I attack him.

Erm...

I push him hard to the chest with both hands and he falls into the fountain.

Are you sure you did not attack him?

[–]Willhud98 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP seems like a douche tbh

[–]sergio1394 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

"What are you doing? I could kill you."

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

In fact, the court evidence states that he said "don't follow me or I'll kill you", which I believe way more from a drunk idiot than what he claims in his post.

[–]NimmyFarts 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, it is weird he tried to turn the car off. I'd probably just want to get out of there. But, If I turned around and some guy was in my personal space I would definitely try to push at him. I wouldn't think of myself as 'attacking him' though. I'd think he attacked me.

[–]Gurip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yup, even from OPs story he is guilty and all he had to do is 4 weeks in jail.

but if you also read the court document he kept some stuff and didint post here, and from court document, im not a lawyer or judge but i would say guilty.

he also threated to kill the guy, threats like that are taken seriously especialy in situations like that.

[–]t_ran_asuarus_rex 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

so is this when we get to discuss "Rampart"?

[–]sprucetrap87 37ポイント38ポイント  (28子コメント)

Why did you attempt to turn his engine off? Why did you threaten to kill him? Why did you take his cell phone out of his hands and throw it? It sounds like you are definitely guilty of the mischief charge (throwing his phone), by your own admission.

[–]CpuKnight 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm a little bit confused, why was the taxi driver so miffed at you? Also, just know that some of us Singaporeans are nice considerate people, can't say the same for some others but hey its like any other country, got your good and bad apples eh.

[–]GammaBreak 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your first error wasn't being drunk. That only expedited your stupidity.

The first mistake you made (and where you are at fault) is attempting to mess with the driver's car. If the driver up and left his car running, why the fuck is that your problem? Had you just followed your drunk gf, you wouldn't even be in this mess. Driver wouldn't have thought you were trying to steal his car or something out of his front seat.

And even then, the driver starts yelling at you? Rather than stopping to assess the situation (brilliant tactical mind you have, Mr. Navy SEAL) and try and find out why the guy is so pissed off (because you don't) your first reaction is to grab his phone and throw it after not-so-subtly threatening him? You never attacked him, but you damn well intimidated him and laid hands on him. And yeah, he definitely could have gotten hurt from your big SEAL muscles.

So how the whole thing shook down:

  • You got in the cab. Driver probably didn't want sick drunk passengers and tells you to leave. Your GF tries to change his mind, but he says no, so she gets out.

  • The driver gets out for his own reasons, and you, unable to see him, for some reason decide to reach into his car and go for the keys. You, being one of the drunk people he just threw out.

  • Understandably pissed, he goes after you, and since you really have no good reason for anything you're doing, decide to just try to ignore him. He may even think you still swiped something from his car, and isn't going to just let you walk away, and tries to stop you.

  • That's when you grab his property and throw it, leading to him throwing a punch. Still intent on thinking you can just walk away, you attempt to do so, which then leads to you shoving him into a fountain.

  • Cops come, arrest you.

Honestly, you'd be treated the same way in the states. You were a suspicious person doing suspicious shit, then tried to fade on the scene, but not before escalating it through response. The smart thing to do would have been to let the cabbie wail on your big SEAL muscles so when the cops did show up, all they would have seen was him hitting you. They ask you why you reached into his car, you say I tried to turn the car off. Nothing missing, nothing stolen, you're on your way. Idiot.

[–]littlesushibox 25ポイント26ポイント  (17子コメント)

Why did you try to turn off the engine/ why were you in the front seat?

[–]rockbrain 72ポイント73ポイント  (16子コメント)

Why are you looking for sympathy here? The stuff you posted makes you look guilty as fuck. Also, I'd bet that you're lying about not being drunk.

Edit: When you were questioned on May 31, you answer to the question "Were you drunk during the whole incident?" was "Yes". In the statement from July 1st, you said "However I was not drunk..." Seems like you're a liar.

[–]timothy558 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

gave me a water bottle full of Japanese whisky

There's the rub.

But seriously, AMAs are to engage the community about something. This guy is just pretty self centered, to put it mildly, and there's nothing really to ask him. If I had had a guess, it was for him to rally up the millions of faithful Americans from a default sub to bring outrage to the court system and alert international press, which he's not going to do if r/RBI, r/singapore, r/iama AND the Singapore courts all roughly say he's guilty.

[–]admiral_asswank 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

People downvoting you, but I wouldn't be surprised in anyway whatsoever if you're on the money.

[–]Gurip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah even from his side of story, he made death threads, fucked with driver, refused to leave (driver has the right to refuse service for a costumer), tryed to fuck with ignition by geting into driver seat(would get charged with attempted theft in US).

[–]ChiefPaprika 16ポイント17ポイント  (18子コメント)

What's your biggest fear at this point in the case?

[–]MadChirimoya 33ポイント34ポイント  (11子コメント)

I feel bad for the cab driver. Why did you attack him?

[–][deleted] 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is too ridiculous to be true. You're clearly guilty as reading the court documents makes evident. You're also guilty of being a complete moron. Who goes to another country, ignores local laws, and gets into a fight with locals? And if that wasn't enough why are you still there when all you have to do is serve 4 weeks and leave? You're just looking for drama. If you were actually an ex Navy Seal AND you were being wrongfully held in a foreign state there would actually be some support for you, but you're clearly just a whiny bitch who is so entitled that he thinks he can drunkenly act like a moron in a relatively oppressive foreign country and not be punished in the slightest for it. Congrats on giving up 2 years of your life to "prove" something that you openly admit can't be proven. It's your word vs. his. The court documentation makes it seem like his word is much more reliable than yours. Do the time and move on with your life. I can't recall EVER seeing an AMA get this many responses without a single fucking question - EVERYONE agrees that you were in the wrong except you.

[–]sprucetrap87 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is it legal for you to be drinking whiskey in the jail/prison?

[–]CommanderMcBragg 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry, I'm not believing your story. Except for the parts where you kind of confess to your misbehavior. I don't think you are being brigaded by Singaporeans. I think a lot of people just are not in any way sympathetic.

Go to turn off his engine

Why would you do that. It's not your car.

manage to snatch it out of his hands it throw it

It's not your phone. Was he calling the police?

I'm guessing that you made these arguments at your trial and I'm also guessing that was a big mistake. In the US or Australia defendants are supposed to use every possible defense and proclaim their innocence at every opportunity, even after they are convicted. In Asia they expect you to apologize even if you are in the right because there must be something you could have done better.

That said, I did have an AMA question. I have heard the food in Singapore is some of the best in the world. How is the jail chow?

[–]testbug0 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't quite get you OP, you seem to be portraying yourself as a victim of gross injustice?

I am a lawyer and from reading your dubious account and the court transcripts, you sound like a deluded idiot who got what he deserved.

[–]rockbrain 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/former-us-navy-seal-gets-four-weeks-jail-for-punching-taxi-driver-fined-800 This link tells a different story. "The cabby saw Fitzgerald taking his pouch from the front driver seat and asked him to return it. Fitzgerald slammed the door of the taxi on Mr Lim's leg, and pushed him to the ground. He subsequently pushed Mr Lim to the ground three more times, causing him to fall." Huh. OP, care to explain this perspective on the story?

[–]Loggerdon 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

American here. There seems to be a problem with drunks (primarily Americans, Aussies & PRC) causing trouble with locals.

Remember: "Admitting it is the first step"

Question: If you're a trained killer why would you ever punch a taxi driver in any country? He was no threat to you. I'm a supporter of the American military but this is embarrassing. Singapore is a very good friend of America in the region.

Regarding taxis: They can't just pull over anywhere and pick you up. There are strict rules regarding this and I've been yelled at myself for the same reason. You probably didn't know this. Also drivers have a right not to pick up drunk people. Out of a few hundred taxi rides I've had only a couple asshole drivers. They are generally OK.

Turning off his key was a provocative move. You were drunk and disorderly and are now looking for sympathy. Maybe you should take a look at your drinking habits if they are causing this kind of problem in your life. Four weeks in jail for punching someone and telling them you could kill them is a light sentence if you ask me.

Singapore operates by the rule of law. Unusual for the region. Take your medicine and then go on the wagon.

[–]aatwee 9ポイント10ポイント  (27子コメント)

What has the State Department or the Embassy advised? How long is your sentence?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (26子コメント)

They were fairly hands off. They provided a list of attorneys (most were corporate attorneys), and offered to help transfer funds if I had any.

I haven't been in direct contact in months. A rep will contact one of my attorneys every so often to get an update, but I get the feeling they definitely don't want to be seen as interfering, which I totally understand. This shouldn't be political.

edit: sentence is 4 weeks and 4 days (4 weeks and SGD800 (or 4 extra days), but I'm not paying a dime for something I didn't do, so they can put me up for another couple of days)

[–]aatwee 19ポイント20ポイント  (22子コメント)

If the sentence is 32 day and you've been held for 641 days how come you are not free or have left the country because of time served?

[–]OzymandiasKoK 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

Being in the country, apparently more or less free, is different from being in a jail cell.

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

It doesn't count as time served unless I'm in prison. They consider this a lovely holiday in their lovely country.

[–]MapsAreCool 45ポイント46ポイント  (13子コメント)

You'd rather be stuck in Singapore with your life on hold for an indeterminate amount of time than just go to prison for a month and pay SGD 800? You've burned through way more than that by now for your expenses, I'm sure.

Why?

[–]defiancy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude. So you have spent 641 days in a country fighting a sentence for 32 days. What sense does that make!? It's not like you got convicted of drug smuggling. Take your sentence, serve your time and leave. You would have been out of there two years ago....

[–]BuffyStark 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

At today's exchange rate, SGC400 is $577.93. So instead of going to jail for a little less than 5 weeks and paying less than $600 you are just hanging out in Singapore, basically wining about it? News flash, based on your own description of events, you DID DO SOMETHING. Do the time, pay the time -- you did the crime! With the reasoning skills that you have, how the heck did you get through SEAL training?

[–]Decepticle_Ronnie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but I'm not paying a dime for something I didn't do

How much are you going to pay for this shit that you did do?

[–]giraffestafarian 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

As an Australian I have to ask - is your girlfriend still with you? Or is she dumb enough to go along with all this?

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[–]Still_here_LOL 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

So how's the food?

[–]HiPSTRF0X 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything you want is probably here, and with pretty good taste too.

[–]NobodySpecific 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

She gets out suddenly and starts walking off. I get out, I don't know where she thinks she's going, all the cabs are on this street. I start to try to get another cab, but she's still walking away, and I don't see the driver.

Go to turn off his engine, but there's no keys in the ignition (2012 Chrysler's have a remote fob).

So which is it? Were you trying to get another cab or were you trying to turn this guy's engine off?

Why were you trying to turn the engine off? That's not your car, you have no right to a ride, and you have no business being anywhere near the ignition or keys for that vehicle. I would have pulled you out of the car too if you were trying to do something inappropriate.

[–]SputtleTuts 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ever have any legal troubles before all this?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was 16 I got arrested for....can't recall the charges. I was playing airsoft on a beach. The cops got called on a house party. The neighbors who called the cops saw me with my airsoft gun and called the cops back saying, "those kids got machine guns."

Cops came in heavy with pistols drawn. Spent the night in jail, had to hire a lawyer. Went to Court. Judge took one look at the airsoft gun and threw the case out.

Traffic tickets.

[–]sprucetrap87 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

How intoxicated were you at the time of the incident?

[–]adub887 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

How do you feel about having this AMA blowing up in your face?

[–]SirSneakyRafiki 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

If you've been held in Singapore 641+ days, and the original sentence was 4 weeks, why didn't you just serve the sentence and get the hell out of singapore?

The choice between 4 weeks in jail (28 days) vs 641 days of being unable to work and being forced to stay in a country you don't want to be in seems like a no brainer.

[–]bestofreddit_me 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Turn around to confront him. We kind of grab at each other's arms, like 8 year olds fighting. I say, "what are you doing? I could kill you"

You seem to have insecurity issues like most people who join the military and especially those who end up in "elite" units. Maybe even some anger and control issues as well. The tough guy routine isn't going to work on most people, especially when you are in another country where you don't even speak their language!

He was waving his cell phone as he approached, manage to snatch it out of his hands it throw it behind him toward some grass.

Was he trying to record you? Why would you take his property and then throw it?

The extraordinary lengths you are going to makes you look a bit childish. Creating a bunch of AMAs to get the word out is fine if you were truly wronged, but your description of events makes you look like the bad guy.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you and your gf got into a fight and she stormed out of the cab ( why else would she leave the cab ) to get away from you and you got out to chase after her and the cabbie chased both of you guys to get his money. Am I in the ballpark?

I hope you get things sorted. I can't imagine getting stuck in another country because of legal problems. And lose the tough guy attitude. You might think you are impressing others, but in actuality everyone is just laughing at you.

[–]joeyfjj 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just want to point out that Singapore's main language is English.

[–]svodka 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

This guy seems like the type that intentionally looks to start trouble by doing really douchey things and acting tough, then tries to play it off like he didn't initiate anything. Like the douchebag at the bar who confronts you alpha style for looking at his girlfriend.

[–]guydawg 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

This guy is either the most stubborn fucker in the world, or Singapore prison is so rough that he can't go there. He hasn't admitted that so I think he's just a stubborn fuck.

2 weeks in jail (he said in another comment that even if the sentence was 4 weeks he would only do 2) and $800... Unless getting seriously fucked up in jail was a likely scenario, I wouldn't have wasted the time. Especially if you hate it in the country like he does

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not one of the people who knows me would agree with you. Don't mistake the way I write, short curt contrarian replies to incorrect and accusatory statements, for my personality.

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, this is a new theory. We had a fight in the cab you say? And the cabbie wanted to get his money for the fare? How much is the fare when you get into a cab, the driver doesn't move the vehicle, and you get back out again?

To be clear, that is absolutely not what happened. I got in. Gf got in. GF gave address. Mr Lim shouted back. Gf asked again and offered to pay extra. Mr Lim shouted. Gf asked a third time. Mr Lim got out. Gf got out. I was just sitting there, happy to be off my feet for the evening.

  • I don't think he was trying to record me. He didn't testify that he was trying to record me. He testified he was talking on the phone, but my memory is that he was more like this i.e. arms flailing and making aggressive gestures.

[–]maxillo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What does the US embassy say?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not a whole lot. Offered to print me a new passport (not really that much help since I'd be stopped at the border), transfer funds if I could raise them, and gave me a list of attorney's that are known to work with Americans.

[–]TTTT27 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Once your gf was in another taxi and on her way home, why didn't you just walk or run away from this idiotic cab driver? This situation just doesn't seem worthy to get in a fight over.

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It had never been much of a fight, he was the only one throwing punches and he just barely landed one.

Again, the right thing to do (I thought) was wait for the police to explain the situation. While we were waiting we were in a highly populated area, so he left me alone.

[–]similar_observation 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh shit. I remember reading this a year ago. You're still over there?

So aside from this thing looming over your head. I know you've mentioned you can't work. What do you do to pass the time?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, still here.

Study for the GMAT, practice a bit of coding, I even took up knitting for a while. Spend a lot of time going back through case notes and evidence.

[–]Thereswaldo101 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Other than getting arrested, how did you like singapore?

[–]Hialexander123 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is it a secret blessing to be trapped there, or do you just want to get the hell out of there as soon as you can?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

I thought it might be for the first few weeks (maybe even months). I was like, "silver lining, more time with my girlfriend." But no, it's the worst thing I've gone through by far, and that includes doing the better part of two hell weeks with a hernia.

[–]MapsAreCool 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

But no, it's the worst thing I've gone through by far

Worse than...4 weeks in jail would be?

[–]Condoozle 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Better part of two? Did you have to drop out 3-4 days in the first time around and then repeat after the hernia? Best of luck to you man, no matter what the fact of the story is, I hope you get home to the states.

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Made it to Wed, got a med roll for SIPE, pneumo, and hypo.

Kept the hernia a secret until I graduated.

[–]SayerApp 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Whoa. Did you seek any help from the embassy? I'm sorry if that was listed in here, it's a long AMA, but I am wondering: can they do anything to assist in the case?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I did, they're a bit hands off, which is understandable. This should be a legal issue, not an international political one.

[–]dadroidrigues10 1ポイント2ポイント  (25子コメント)

Has there been any sort of physical abuse that they put you through or threatened you in any way?

[–]ussingthrowaway[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (24子コメント)

No threats. One cop during my in processing, while waiting to get fingerprinted the first night, jumped off the ground and put his full weight on my cuffs. Think he was trying to effect a take down, but the little fella only weighed about 90lbs.

edit: sp

[–]admiral_asswank 30ポイント31ポイント  (23子コメント)

Gee with this understanding, accepting and totally passive attitude of yours in lovely Singapore I can't even fathom why they would keep you detained. ¬_¬

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    [–]rockbrain 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He didn't do anything wrong! The cab driver was just asking for some drunk asshole to fuck around with his car, push him into a fountain and throw his fucking phone away.

    [–]elypter 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    why didnt you just get out of the country illegaly, like with a fishing boar or a fake passport?

    [–]milrak8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why did you attack that poor cab driver?

    [–]newtonslogic 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Aren't you glad you didn't come to Reddit to hire an attorney? Good luck to you. I've been in a shitty situation a time or two myself where it looks like I'm the one who fucked up etc..etc. Even had a couple of eyewitnesses bald face lie in court. Luckily there was evidence to prove they were full of shit.

    [–]captainfunbags -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

    The lack of any actual evidence or effort from the police is the most disconcerting thing about this whole ordeal. Sure you reacted and pushed away a guy who randomly started shouting at you in another language and then following you, but I doubt many people would have reacted much different aside from running the fuck away. Hell the guy is a SEAL so we have no idea what he's been through. Why is his reaction to what could easily be perceived as a threat so surprising to people? I mean the other guy touched him first. I will say that telling someone you could kill them (even if you're totally right) never looks very good. Good luck, I hope it works out. Try to remember you're in a place that puts people to death for marijuana so you might be getting off easy here.

    [–]Chronicd5 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's like when Chris Kyle was killed, who are we to judge the perpetrator? If this guy is suffering from ptsd or some related illness which are the cause of his actions, I would perceive him as a threat to himself and society without proper treatment.

    [–]kweeche 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Why are you doing this AMA? Are you not afraid of the court finding out about this and seeing it as being disrespectful (a big deal over there). Also, why the fuck would anyone go to Singapore?

    [–]K33P53CR3T 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What was your BUD/S class number and what year and month did you graduate?

    EDIT: BUD/S - 275 June 2009

    Thanks!

    [–]Space 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What was the reason why you left the teams? Are there any major differences between West Coast vs. East Coast teams (culture etc)? Good luck out there man.

    [–]ussingthrowaway[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I didn't like the politics of it and I wasn't invested in our specific mission anymore. When they found out I wasn't going to re-enlist I ended up on the shit list, and then some drama occurred at a school about my hair being too long, which snowballed, next thing I'm in the CO's Office turning in my bird.

    WC is more about life outside the Teams. There's space and things to do. Guys live 45min away from each other, plus they have hobbies. EC is more about Platoon life. Everyone lives close, lots of BBQs and just hanging out in the Platoon space. The result is the vibe that you go WC to party, and EC to Operate.

    Thanks, you too.

    [–]test_beta 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    How many confirmed kills do you have?

    [–]Dubber6578 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    How much longer do you think you'll be in this situation?

    [–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Rumor mill says Appeal date in April, which means May I'd be deported, if they don't extend my sentence.

    [–]Dubber6578 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I hope that pulls through man. What you do in your spare time?

    [–]kyxeros 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is the walkie talkie in the bottom of the ocean? Yes

    Did you enter the driver seat without permission? Yes

    Did you push the driver? Yes

    Were you intoxicated in that point in time? Yes

    Whats there to dispute?

    Dont portray youself as a victim when you could have done your penalty left and any point in time. Man up dude

    [–]ehkodiak 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If all goes to pot, how will you cope with being found guilty for a crime you didn't commit yet again?

    [–]latticusnon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Why is your username "ussingthrowaway" when you are posting so much personal info?

    Also why do all the Singaporeans attacking you in the comments have such good English?

    [–]alegxab 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Singapore's main language and lingua franca is english

    [–]luckyscrote 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Do you think it's strange that most people posting in this thread are being rather negative about your situation?

    As you get older, if you come across any kind of situation like this you will learn it's much easier to swallow some pride and do what's best. Sure, sometimes it's important to stand up for your values, but this has gone passed that. Your story conflicts with the court documents. You also come across guilty with the way you respond to people here.

    Swallow some pride and move on, soldier.

    [–]ussingthrowaway[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Respectfully, I would invite you to just peruse the case file. I don't care about prison time or my pride, this is a serious injustice, and most of the people who have bothered to look at the case file come to the same conclusion.

    Even if it's not. Even if I'm factually guilty, the way the investigation was conducted....this needs fixed or it's going to happen to other people.

    [–]the_real_eel 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm not here to form an opinion or pass judgement. I just have a question. Assuming you are innocent and, as you stated, this is a serious injustice, this is happening in a foreign country. Why not get the hell out of there and be done with it? You're fighting a losing battle, I think.

    [–]ussingthrowaway[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You're probably right. That was my first instinct, but I made I promise that I wouldn't. Now that I've started the process, it's only fair to allow it to go to finality. I can't say the system is broken if I don't allow it a chance to do what it's supposed to do, which is catch errors like this.

    [–]FitzForShort -4ポイント-3ポイント  (16子コメント)

    My comment got removed for not reading/following rules. I met you last year when visiting, we had a couple drinks and played pool, you sent that stuffed animal for my daughter. You were a really cool guy and I hate to see the negative responses here. I hope the appeal goes well for you. My question, anything I can do for you? Need any visitors this summer or you planning to be gone? Feel free to PM me too.