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prince_kropotkin has just admitted to deliberately driving off other users. Can we finally ban his ass? (self.metanarchism)
fuckoffliberals が 13時間前 投稿
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[–]Gghhgghh2 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 12時間前 (28子コメント)
These other users have been hostile as well, fuck is up with "hostile environment for marginalized people"? Like have you seen some of the shit enkara has said? Way worse and more hostile than this.
Be real. You're here because you don't like this user, you don't like them criticizing other users. Please learn the definition of troll and stop jumping to ban hammer. Also please don't post your bullshit biased interpretation as the title and act like its a fact.
Vote no
[–]emma_gold_man -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 7時間前 (19子コメント)
Neither asta nor enkara started out hostile, actually. They've both become bitter over time, as the toleration of transphobia and misogyny on these subs has grown. So that's the difference.
[–]Gghhgghh2 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間前 (18子コメント)
So it's cool for us to be hostile, if we have a "good reason"?
[–]_Dances_With_Trolls_ [スコア非表示] 3時間前 (0子コメント)
it should be tempered with good humor
[–]emma_gold_man -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Yup.
[+]limitexperience スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 6時間前 (15子コメント)
Are you fucking kidding? Uh, yes?
[–]Gghhgghh2 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
Well, as a person who is in many oppressed groups, would it be cool for me to dox you? Call you slurs? Harass you? After all, I am oppressed. It is but righteous anger.
[–]limitexperience -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Uh... Like, I don't really agree with doxing or calling people slurs or harassing people, but like... we are anarchists and we predicate all our activism and direct action on feeling justified in our beliefs so...
Like are you an anarchist or do you believe in anything? Like are you angry at capitalism at all?
[–]ravencrowed [スコア非表示] 4時間前 (1子コメント)
People can be angry and not take their anger out on other individuals. The reason I believe in anarchism is precisely because I believe that humans can work together. Anger can be catharthic and so can acting on that anger against other people. But most of the time it's counter productive, not to mention violent.
[–]_Dances_With_Trolls_ [スコア非表示] 4時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't think that is what's been happening.
You're not wrong, but you're also missing the point.
[–]Prince_Kropotkin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6時間前 (10子コメント)
If someone comes here and claims they are a trans minority queer disabled TiA-style caricature, who are more oppressed then literally anyone else imaginable, would they be allowed to slang around slurs and death threats?
[–]limitexperience -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 5時間前 (9子コメント)
would they be allowed to slang around slurs and death threats?
They shouldn't be allowed to do it, but they shouldn't be held to as harsh a standard as others because you know, they are oppressed and are really angry because of it, so they get a pass.
[–]_Dances_With_Trolls_ [スコア非表示] 3時間前 (5子コメント)
you do realize that there are unscrupulous people on the Internet that will adopt identities just to glom onto social advantage...
inverted hierarchy IRL isn't a terrible practice, but when you try to do that on the Internet, members of the dominant culture/groups will infiltrate and impersonate.
[–]limitexperience [スコア非表示] 2時間前 (4子コメント)
Who fucking cares?
[–]_Dances_With_Trolls_ [スコア非表示] 2時間前 (3子コメント)
well, I don't want to be enable oppressors who see angry minorities as an insurrection to be infiltrated and put down
[–]limitexperience [スコア非表示] 2時間前 (2子コメント)
So your justification for not giving marginalized people leeway when they get pissed off is that it's possible random people will impersonate soembody and then... well I don't get this part yet but yeah, needless to say I disagree.
[–]Prince_Kropotkin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
This is fucking ridiculous. I fully agree that people who belong to oppressed classes or whatever should be treated with respect and understanding, but you actually say they should be free to pass along the oppression because they're angry. That's goddamn stupid. What's next, assault victims get one free assault? Have your family murdered, you get to murder someone else's family? It's OK, you'd probably be angry about it, no big deal.
[–]limitexperience 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
What's next, assault victims get one free assault? Have your family murdered, you get to murder someone else's family?
Lol, I love the free speech bro slippery slope logic. Like omg you aren't going to ban a depressed teenager with dysphoria for telling somebody to go fuck themselves, well I guess the next step is to obviously let them murder somebody.
[–]Prince_Kropotkin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
for telling somebody to go fuck themselves
No that's not my line. My line is threatening people or telling them to harm themselves, not insulting them. Very clear difference, based on the fact that a lot of people here suffer from depression or other mental illness and you never know who does or doesn't. And threats, well, yeah if you're okay with death threats (which is an actual crime pretty much everywhere) then assault isn't that much of a stretch.
[–]fuckoffliberals[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
Punching up isn't the same as punching down. Fuck off.
[–]Gghhgghh2 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
And you're the arbiter of what is "punching up" and "punching down". When it's your buddies, they're punching up. When somebody doesn't like your buddies, it's punching down. Cool
[+]fuckoffliberals[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Liberal as fuck.
you keep using that word
I do not think it means what you think it means
[+]nomorefreezepeach スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 7時間前* (3子コメント)
fuck is up with "hostile environment for marginalized people"?
Yuh bro totally, what the fuck's up with these whiny marginalized brats?? Can't they just like, pump some bitching iron and shut their stupid crybaby mouths? They need to get seriously shredded, up the vascularity to 20% mass, minimum! Dial it in ALL THE WAY bro. Amiright?
[–]Gghhgghh2 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
I mean you don't just get to decide your precious baby is marginalized and needs to be protected forum cruel words and that we can say whatever the fuck else we want to everybody else (who are probably equally marginalized). You can't just try to ban people you don't like because they aren't making it a "safe place" when the people they're replying to do the same thing. If you want a safe place, do it all around and don't enforce selectively.
[–]nomorefreezepeach -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 6時間前* (0子コメント)
Okey dokey, let's do that. Let's make this an all around safe space for everyone!
Okay, so let's be blunt... You're going to have to leave bro. Obviously no one can feel safe or comfortable in any way as long as you're creeping around here.
But thank you ever so much for making the golden suggestion that led to us finally removing the freeze peach from the can :) :) <3
...Is he gone? Okay, so who's next on the slate for bro-removal?
fuck you. lifting is integral to my mental health.
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