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Goonstation source, finally taken. (self.SS13)

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Admins of Goon, you have little time to contact me and tell me why I shouldn't release it. Make a jabber account, get OTR (off-the-record) plugin for it and then add me. 0xCSRF@rows.io. That is all, for those who do not know, I'm posting this from a GoonStation coder account. I've located their source on bitbucket.org and downloaded the master copy.

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[–]WonkminGoonstation Admin[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (8子コメント)

Some posts are being removed by Reddit admins, and the moderator team are discussing whether things like this should be removed due to it breaking the third rule about intellectual property. However, as this is a massive clash of interest for me, I will not be removing / approving any posts on this subject.

[–]cassy_jenelleSS13 World Server Headmin 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me guess; a goon admin accepted that guy's marriage offer.

[–]SomethingAngryGoonstation Code Elf 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You better not steal my irl robuddy though or we'll have Problems, buster.

[–]Yellow_The_White 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spacedude sim being way more serious business than it ought to be...

As usual.

[–]SomethingAngryGoonstation Code Elf 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is actually the solarium good ending. You summoned the server and instead of breaking it, you spawned a hacker man who put the source in a giant cartoon brown sack and carried it off. And also you gave the hacker man $400 dollars. That wasn't part of the puzzle though so I'm thinking maybe that was a bad decision.

[–]d3athrow 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

i will give you pomf coins for it

[–]d3athrow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

All the pomf coins misterserver123@gmail.com we shall talk the bawk

[–]DanuisLady Quartermaster 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sanders dragging the Dems down with him if he loses. Syria going to who ever stays alive. Companies over taking governments. A logo will be the first boot on mars and not a flag. And now - the people have stolen the code of Goon.

IT'S ALL OVER.

[–]Conor12Goonstation Coder 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/cMWalaa.gifv

[–]TheRealZakLane 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some of us forget the history of the game. The original source was stolen on a USB drive from the game creator. The very code goon is built upon is stolen intellectual property.

Normally, I would say that closed source is better but in this situation this entire community is built on stolen property. Also the comments saying that releasing the code will slow the development of the game are bubkis.

Releasing the code may still hurt the community as a whole by making ss13 too popular. I remember playing in a time when grey-tide was unheard of. The initial resurgence of interest and the years leading us to where we are now began with r4407. Now the wheel makes another turn. I wonder where it will land next.

[–]ninjachaHitchhiker 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

that wasn't actually legit, someone just made that up.

[–]_melichior_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, this is going to be entertaining.

Edit: Given the amount of shitposts by goons, I'm half inclined to believe this is a clever ruse. Is community engineered drama the new way to harvest karma? I am so confused.

Edit: Oh, it's legit. Well, I'll be taking a copy for my own personal use. Not that I really care about goon code. Or any code in particular. This drama is going to be off the hook though.

[–]robertmanbobgoon menturd 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uhhh, I don't think this one is fake.

[–]Finalsong1Europa Game Admin 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

o boy

EDIT: Holy hell, the admin's details were legitimate.

[–]zealotcoolkid 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

listen here's the deal, you give me the source code or i'll kick your nerdy ass and drag you through some glass

[–]PsyentificThe only winning move is not to play 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

remember to take his shoes off first otherwise it won't do anything

[–]AsV9Yog council 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

can someone tl;dr this drama for me? I just got here and I'm confused.

[–]Spacemanspar5Paramentor 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

tl;dr Some dude got into a Goonstation admin/ coder's account, threatened the Goon community to release the code, took $400 dollars to not release the code, and then released it anyways.
Welcome to SS13.

[–]Kinrany 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Release a fork with code written a year after r4407, so that we know you're serious

[–]NaximousPathetic Goon chemist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He already released the latest code but the links were removed.

[–]VivalasHONK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't really have an opinion on the matter, as I understand both sides of the argument, but this will definitely make goon less fun. Part of the closed source experience is the fact that things like to solarium and goon chem are secrets, and there are tons of hidden things in the gooniverse. This will really ruin the fun of exploration of goon, which was really the only reason I played, I could never get over the community.

I don't think this will kill goon, but it will definitely make it less interesting. Every round now you can expect griefers to blow everything up with quark gluon plasma. Or probably not, they'll just change the recipe.

[–]SupernornSS13 Artist 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The nature of goonstation is that, this code is already outdated. The codebase is very different from the other open source builds at this point, that it would be more cumbersome to integrate it than just write it from scratch. And are servers going to be running goonstation code a few months from now, when players can just play on goonstation with the latest code?

Apart from demotivating a bunch of coders who work so hard in this community, this doesn't really mean anything at the end of the day.

[–]MarquesasGoonstation Coder 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay, look, someone has to go out and say this.

I'm deeply, deeply offended. I mean seriously offended. I'm offended that fff.jpg is not at all present in there. I mean come on.

Also, might as well summon /u/PJB3005 and /u/StormAGeddonz.

[–]Pjb3005Codermin for the server that shall not be named. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What you think I didn't notice yet?

[–]Data420 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry to intrude on this very constructive, well, thing, but i just wanted to mention that I've begun archiving this development in a painstaking process, even the 'deleted' thingy majigies in the interests of reference and SS13 history. I'm honestly hoping to get as much as possible before it gets ninja'd via black magic, especially for preservation reasons. I'd really appreciate helpful contributions to this task via PM. Anything from anytime helps considering i can't watchdog this forever.

Signed, yours faithfully, Data420/469 - Very Cereal Business United -

[–]Whalen207Steal the Janicart = I will robust you. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP

[–]Stup1dg33kz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do it. Set Spessstation free.

[–]Drynwyn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

RELEASE THE CODE, INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE

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    [–]robertmanbobgoon menturd 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Goonstation has died.

    edit: "goonstationfreedom". What you just did is made goonstation's coders disappear.

    [–]need_account_to_post 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    The spirit of every other existing server will be nourished on the corpse of Goonstation.

    The king has died, and the peasants now rise up to claim the power left behind.

    [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Can't see any benefit to other servers; if they can steal it from the monstrous spaghetticode they could have just coded it themselves

    [–]need_account_to_post 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    So you're arguing that every server has either already coded all the Goon features they want by themselves, or will be incapable of porting the features even given the source code?

    If that's true, then the state of other servers won't be affected by this release.

    If that's true, why then would the state of Goonstation change at all?

    [–]atomicthumbsGoonstation admin. 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    if they're skilled enough to reverse engineer it, they can go ahead!

    but: the major branches are smart enough not to use copyrighted things in a GPL project.

    [–]uTorrentmemer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    LET MY PEOPLE GO

    [–]Kn0ssYog - Head Coder 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Head coder for Yogstation here.

    I have informed the coder staff to not port the code into our code base. We do not support the theft of Goonstations property.

    For those of you wondering why this is a bad thing. Imagine someone breaking into your house, taking everything you own, and putting it on the side of the road with a sign printed "Look at all this free shit, come and get it".

    [–]LynxOfTheWastesABOMINABLEABOMINABLEABOMINABLE TRAITORS 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Get off your high horse. The entire history of this game is "stolen" code, all the way back to the second iteration of the original code. By all rights, goon code should have always been open source, just like all projects using someone else's code should be.

    [–]DanuisLady Quartermaster 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yea, but in this case, the house is government owned, the furniture was government owned, all one did was put it together. No pity for goon here.

    We play this game because someone stole the original game out of where ever it was. We play on TG based maps because it's open code. And now, Goon has fallen to the same cycle. Ah well.

    [–]MarquesasGoonstation Coder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hey, don't worry about it. As the vultures are already inventing justifications for picking it apart, it's only fair that you dig out what you need as well.

    [–]reaganfhrm clown wants all access, ok! 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    sir, i have upvoted you because you stand for free and open source software, i will support you if you release goonstation source and i will be the first to download, you are wonderful.

    [–]wrincewindError 404: Permabrig Not Found. 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Open source software, this aint. The people making goon want to protect their work, and I respect that. Of we truly want to o on - source goon, we need to convince all the developers.

    [–]SirThatOneGuy42BS12Seniormin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why should I care though?

    [–]zealotcoolkid 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    IM THE FRIGGEN SAWBONES

    [–]MemeluminatiStay outta me bar 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    FUCK YEAH SAWBONES

    [–]Zilenan91 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    BONESAW IS READYYYYY

    [–]WhiteFox08_Honk 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hyperway said there would be no censoring, begins censoring half the thread. Whats the point?

    [–]atomicthumbsGoonstation admin. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The deleted account belonged to Aphtonites, the coder whose accounts were compromised. He got back in and deleted all the posts the hacker made, and the account.

    [–]CentralSmith 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Do iiiiiit.

    [–]roboaidsMagic conch shell, am I pretty? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Edit: nevermind i found out what happened, ignore whatever was here before

    I don't see why Goon is being so panicky. They can always change around stuff to make them secret again and I'm sure that there's only like a couple of regular people there that play just because of the code. It ain't like the leaked code will update to the newest most official goon version available, either.

    Nothing can replace the original server, and they still got their own coders, so they should just calm down a bit, stop throwing money at people and stop having a heart attack imo. I know they're kinda offended but they should just cheer up a bit, they ain't even really losing anything but what they try bribing the guy with :\

    That being said I hope no goon guys object to me downloading a copy just so I can blow shit up as I do with almost all codebases :]

    [–]chickenoflightSpace Racist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    F R E E D O M B O I S

    [–]dinobubba7Jobbanned from Assistant 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What's going on with goon now

    [–]Hero_of_None 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's nice, but trying to steal goonstation code is so 2000s. Want a challenge go get Lifeweb's code.
    .
    And don't bother threatening to release it, just threaten to add Tajarans. They'll pay whatever ransom you demand with interest.

    [–]RavelairPowergaming is great 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He doesn't threaten, he released it already. I am not an engineer however and don't know how to get rid of errors to compile it and play it singleplayer.

    [–]78532 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Every closed source server on Space Station 13 is fucking retarded. You may think "But if I let it be open source, morons, idiots, maybe people from vore will make modifications to it, and fuck everything up, or merge it with vore, god forbid." And while that is a possibility, it's the stupidest god damn fucking thing I have ever heard in my entire life. While, yes, you're preventing retards from getting their cheeto-dust covered hands on the source, you're also preventing coders who DON'T want to fuck everything up from making modifications, and making the game better, sure, some people would open up servers with shitty, poorly sprited shit, but fucking seriously, nobody would go there, and it's not like you're making any money off of it, except for your "Donations" which, let's face it, you actually just use to pay for your rent, food, and other shit, instead of getting a fucking job and keeping the server up by your self. So if you're doing it for money? You're retarded.

    If you're doing it because you think of the code of your baby, and don't want people to rip it apart limb from limb and see how it works so they can possibly make it better? Understandable, but still retarded.

    If you're doing it because it's a good game and you dont want people to get all of the secrets like goonchem? Retarded. God damn, bro. Just let it be.

    inb4 "ur retarded."

    [–]Hufflaw 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The donations only go to the server host who usually pays for the server out of his own pocket you moron.

    [–]78532 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    i said they shouldn't take donations you dip, pay for the server out of their own pockets without donations

    [–]robertmanbobgoon menturd 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why should the host have to pay for other people to play a dumb spaceman game?

    [–]cassy_jenelleSS13 World Server Headmin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    SS13 costs money you know, and people do have lives as well - not everyone is some well-off motherfucker able to splotch money everywhere to just keep some teens happy. Donators are what keep servers alive.

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      [–]robertmanbobgoon menturd 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Someone already stole the account. I was temporarily logged into it, though.

      [–]mask2697Sam Guivene 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      RIP Spacemarine9

      [–]MageziyaOnly on Goon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (33子コメント)

      Please no.

      At the very least, if this is real: This won't kill Goon. Keep that in mind.

      [–]d3athrow 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

      why would anybody want or think that, we just want the code

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

      It's not a matter of "just wanting the code".

      It's a huge slap in the face to some of the coolest dudes i've ever had the joy of meeting.

      It's offensive.

      [–]d3athrow 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Should have made a safe space bro

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

      what does that even mean

      [–]atomicthumbsGoonstation admin. -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      he's too edgy to understand what we're talking about. leave him be.

      [–]d3athrow 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Edge the hedgehog is my name and bein edgy is my game

      [–]veganzombehVaporware developer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I would have gone with Sonic the Edgehog.

      [–]literallywhoareyouPoz Sapce Bear Daddy 5ポイント6ポイント  (25子コメント)

      People just want the code.

      [–]dabir 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i just want ur wallet buddy

      [–]MageziyaOnly on Goon -3ポイント-2ポイント  (23子コメント)

      This debate's been had over and over. The coder's don't want the code released. The player's don't want the code released. Goon being closed source is what allowed it to make so many advances when compared to other servers.

      This would actually slow the game's innovation as a whole way down, as Goon tends to make some radical new feature, and then everyone copies them. Well it might sound absurd, those radical new features will stop coming if this blows. Most recent example would be smooth lighting. No one was even considering that until suddenly Goon had it.

      [–]literallywhoareyouPoz Sapce Bear Daddy 4ポイント5ポイント  (20子コメント)

      It's been six goddamn years since r4407 dude. Cut us some slack. You'd get desperate too if you had a bunch of furries and eastern europeans fucking your shit up on a weekly basis. A new release isn't going to hurt anyone.

      [–]ballsack_gymnastics 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I'm sure you realize this, but for the education of others:

      There's nothing technically stopping Goon from moving the repo or changing login credentials, and then just handling this as another code snapshot.

      Except hurt feelings about a spessmen game. I get the want to protect your work (I'm a programmer, and when I do play, I play on Goon), but the data has already leaked and that can't be reversed, nor can it really be blamed on anyone within the Goon team (besides maybe Aphonite for not securing his shit).

      The important thing now is how they handle this moving forward. Notice how most of the goon coders and admins are shitposting. It's the mentors who are whining.

      [–]Spinecone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ^ This. Literally this.

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

      This will hurt the several goonstation coders who only agreed to code on the basis of it being closed source. Some people just don't want to share their art with anyone but their friends, you gotta respect that.

      It'll be a huge step backward for the ss13 community as a whole. The same goonstation coders who occasionally share their work on improving the public ss13 codebase are the same coders who we'll have to fight to keep from quitting because of this.

      [–]grinkdaboy 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

      so this.....is the power.....of goon elitism.....woah......

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      i don't think you know what elitism is.

      they're just really cool dudes who don't want to be open source. ss13 is literally the only community i've ever been a part of that has this weird obsession with open source code.

      [–]erimanProject UNSC Developer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Maybe you just aren't part of any other open source communities?

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i'm in a couple, but they don't go as far as to revel in the theft of closed source code. they tend to respect that people own their code, even if they don't think they should keep it private

      [–]d3athrow 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

      we publicize our spaghetti monsters you can too

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

      "can" doesn't mean "want to".

      You're free to do whatever you want with what's yours, that's your prerogative. We don't care what you do with your code

      but please show respect for the fact that people can do with their things what they want to

      [–]d3athrow 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

      SA gave no mercy back in the day yet you ask of it now?

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I dunno SA history, but goonstation is only loosely affiliated with SA in the sense that half the admins have accounts there.

      It's like saying Baystation has something to do with Bay12 anymore.

      [–]PsyentificThe only winning move is not to play 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I dunno SA history

      tl;dr

      SA was proto-4chan, the armpit and asshole of the internet (but actually kinda nice once you got used to it). it's pretty shit now though.

      [–]SpinnerMasterThe AI did it, not me. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I dunno SA history

      pubbie

      [–]need_account_to_post 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      but please show respect for the fact that people can do with their things what they want to

      "No."

      [–]zealotcoolkid 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      im going to disrespect your forum and post screenshots past the paywall

      [–]UrsulaMajorLLJK Mentor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Great, show me what's on the other side, i've never been there :c

      (not a goon)

      [–]zealotcoolkid -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      why are goons such weirdos lmao

      [–]Spinecone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Whether or not they wanted it isn't relevant anymore.

      It happened, and not everyone's gonna care about yer feelz if they see an advantage to picking it apart. The cat's out of the bag.

      I assume you had a plan for this, right? Or did you trust the stranger on the internet again?

      [–]MactoPerFurorHalo: Station Evolved Dev -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This post is ridiculously misinformed. Player's dont want the code released: Retarded. Closed source giving Goon edge: Retarded. Release will slow innovation: Incredibly retarded. Nobody has even thought of smooth lighting before goon: RETARDATION OVERFLOW, WELCOME TO DOWN SYNDROME.

      [–]Wakafanykai123Simethicone Smoke Mentor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      holy shit drama central right here boys

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        [–]literallywhoareyouPoz Sapce Bear Daddy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        [deleted]

        https://youtu.be/7oday_Fc-Gc

        [–]GoonReleased#GoonOpenSource 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

        hello, due to me forgetting the password to the GitHub, i will not be able to moderate the old repo so i have created a new one.

        https://github.com/GoonRelease/GoonRelease

        also towards the goon admins, suck my 8--------------D

        [–]RavelairPowergaming is great 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        What? You will upload updates?

        [–]GoonReleased#GoonOpenSource 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        i wont upload updates, i will look at pull requests and merge the good ones

        [–]Carbonhell 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        What about the changelog/chat bug?

        [–]GoonReleased#GoonOpenSource 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        merged it, should work

        [–]GoonReleased#GoonOpenSource -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I would like to point out, the reason this source was released is because I simply could do it with ease. http://github.com/GoonRelease/GoonRelease

        wiredwraith? I have access to your bitbucket.org account to... smfh... You guys need to learn what a "secure" password is. exadv1_2009 code? Downloaded. All your files? Downloaded.

        [–]RavelairPowergaming is great 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Im gonna downvote you because I am the only one who deserves to know these secrets

        EDIT: You must feel like a serious evil genius right now. People will say for aeons to come - "Hitler ~0xCSRF did nothing wrong!" ...bzzzt. This has all the secrets in it, wow.

        [–]dinobubba7Jobbanned from Assistant -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Shut up... your just being annoying to everyone

        [–]GoonReleased#GoonOpenSource -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        You're dumb. Cry more friend. https://github.com/GoonRelease https://github.com/GoonRelease https://github.com/GoonRelease https://github.com/GoonRelease https://github.com/GoonRelease https://github.com/GoonRelease

        [–]dinobubba7Jobbanned from Assistant -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What do you even hope to accomplish doing this, I don't even play goon but this is just savage

        [–]mask2697Sam Guivene -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I call dibs on posting the summary of this to /r/subredditdrama!

        [–]grinkdaboy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAWy4nRmJXE

        [–]2cowboy_butts -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Do it, boss. C'mon.

        [–]Spinecone -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I tip my goddamn hat to the person responsible for this, this is EVE Online levels of behaviour. I mean, sure, a slap on the wrist for the deceit, they can decline to be open source if they want, I guess, but succeeding where so many failed deserves a standing ovation.

        If we ever find out this guy's CKEY, what do we think the odds of a plaque are?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA

        "Your tears are all the pay I'll never neeeeeed!"

        [–]zealotcoolkid -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        buddy i suggest you watch this video, RIGHT, NOW! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TFpjq4pWGI&feature=youtu.be

        Or else...

        [–]LynxOfTheWastesABOMINABLEABOMINABLEABOMINABLE TRAITORS -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well then.