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[–]DM0dwc 268ポイント269ポイント  (17子コメント)

Truck driver thought he could quit his job, go to a new country as a refugee, and be able to find a job that pays well enough to buy a big house...what kind of fantasy dream world is this guy living in?

[–]th30be 86ポイント87ポイント  (0子コメント)

The kind where you can trust a smuggler's word.

[–]Kart0ffel 123ポイント124ポイント  (10子コメント)

The American dream?

[–]Gnometard 76ポイント77ポイント  (1子コメント)

My American dream is getting paychecks that regularly total more than my monthly living expenses so I can afford to do something with my life

[–]AngryDevilsAdvocate 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Work in construction. It's long hours and hard labor, also a bit dangerous, but if you're willing to do it you can pull in 15 an hour. Do that for a year and you should be able to invest in yourself.

[–]ForTheShiggies 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

"You know why they call it the American Dream? Because you gotta be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin

[–]sex_nuts [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's not the American Dream, but sure.

[–]CodeEmporer 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The American dream wasn't about everyone getting rich. It was about having the opportunity to live in a safe, peaceful nation and providing a decent life for your family. Not much has changed.

[–]OhLookANewAccount 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I see his issue. The country he moved to was already inhabited.

The American Dream is the dream of expanding into something no one else has claimed.

Everything else doesn't work.

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    [–]Zaphid 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's not that crazy, maybe not a big house, but if you know languages, moving to a richer country definitely IS an option.

    [–]Sl1pstream 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

    One of those dream worlds that don't involve being woken up by explosions near your house every few hours?

    [–]Leoroth 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If that really was his reality he wouldn't be going back. That's the whole point of this article.

    [–]Sl1pstream 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's not that absurd. He was expecting a better life. Instead he got a country in which he was constantly treated like filth and suspected of terrorism. To me, it says more about how the world treats refugees than anything else.

    [–]harTroligenFel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lebanon?

    [–]kleinerDAX 867ポイント868ポイント  (80子コメント)

    "They thought they'd be warmly welcomed in Germany," he said. "Some thought they'd get a lot of money, that the state would give them big houses to live in...."

    "We came here to Germany to live free but we're not free here," he said before he left. "We've got more freedom at home in Iraq than here.... I'm tired of being treated like an animal, of living in a giant room with hundreds of others and getting horrible food and having to take cold showers. I can't wait to get home."

    No, they came to live for free and realized that the state can only support so many people at once wanting aid.

    [–]Scarbane 223ポイント224ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One of my relatives is an expat, and the way he described his transition to life in another country was like transitioning between jobs:

    If you prove your worth and are given an offer while still employed, then you can transition immediately and with few issues at that point.

    Quitting your job first (or being laid off) makes finding your next job much more stressful. It's easy to be mad at your interviewers, even though that's part of their job a lot of times, since they're the ones who keep your livelihood in limbo.

    [–]baskandpurr 111ポイント112ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Many refugees say they are now happy to trade a cold, heartless and lonely life in one of Europe's richest countries for the violence, insecurity and poverty back home.

    It's their choice and at least they are free to make it. I don't consider violence, insecurity and poverty to be preferable to a cold, heartless and lonely life. But then I don't have any choice about my cold, heartless and lonely life either.

    [–]neurotrash 59ポイント60ポイント  (3子コメント)

    You could always move to Iraq...

    [–]Dickwang 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Or all the other safe countries they passed through on the way.

    [–]wasimwesley 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There are millions in refugee camps in Turkey and in Greece and all the "in between" countries. Some went further towards Western Europe but don't pretend there aren't already four million people languishing in refugee camps outside of Europe.

    [–]Dickwang 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's not wrong, but Germany still offers the best conditions for people without education or money out of all the European countries. People don't walk through many countries by foot if it's just the safety they're concerned with.

    [–]TrollJack 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This part sounds more like a shameless attempt of guilt-tripping.

    [–]helix19 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Even if you had to leave your wife and children behind?

    [–]crystal64 64ポイント65ポイント  (17子コメント)

    unfortunately they only realize after much effort that despite solcialist policies in Germany its actually a very competitive economy

    [–]Justanick112 67ポイント68ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Yup. No certificates? No three year education? Better just apply for toilet cleaning only.

    [–]Prof_Acorn 25ポイント26ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Better just apply for toilet cleaning only.

    At least the tips are better than waiting tables.

    Edit: For those who've never traveled to Germany, they have a bathroom attendant tipping culture, but not a waitstaff tipping culture. You might round up the dollar for your waitress, but be sure to have 0.50-1.00 every time you need to take a piss.

    [–]Dickwang 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

    They don't get to keep them actually, there are organized groups behind them.

    [–]Prof_Acorn 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    At least I had the consolation that my piss tips went to the old lady scrubbing the toilets. It just goes to a cleaning company? Hrm. How do Germans not develop bladder infections? I'd hold it as long as possible every time to avoid the fee.

    [–]Dickwang 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not real companies, more like gangs. And you don't have to pay that fee anyway.

    [–]howdoijeans 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Been there, done that.
    Waiters in germany get a pretty decent base salary and it is common to tip staff 10-15% of your bill. Tips are often split evenly among staff (waiters, cooks, dishwashers).

    [–]nukidot 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Isn't that a gypsy, er, traveler scam about tipping at public toilets?

    [–]sex_nuts 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Literally never seen it anywhere in Germany.

    [–]somedude456 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    A piss tax? WTF! I hate dudes in the bathroom. I never saw one in Berlin, Cologne, Nuremberg, or Dortmund.

    [–]chknh8r 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A piss tax? WTF! I hate dudes in the bathroom.

    They weren't in the bathroom. They sat outside the bathroom waiting for you to leave so they can go in behind you to clean, restock if needed, and collect the tip you should have left in the little plate on top of the tank of the toilet.

    [–]Prof_Acorn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think they're in restaurant bathrooms as much.

    Here's a article mentioning it, though

    [–]ishiiman0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They have them in most of the train stations.

    [–]nicknackaroo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I used to earn €20-50 a night in tips at the restaurants I worked in. I was not an exception. From what I understand many people in the US hospitality industry work for a poor hourly wage with there tips seen as part of the compensation. In Germany the hourly wage is fine... €8-10 and tips are as they should be a bonus.

    [–]katarh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    And don't expect them to have change, either. Nothing more annoying than needing to pee and only have a 10 euro note on hand.

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      [–]theprinceofkanada 45ポイント46ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The reasons are myriad, but include overcrowded refugee centers, exasperating bureaucracy, unfamiliar German food, a lack of jobs and a spreading sense of resentment from Germans who fear their country is being overrun by Muslims.

      It's doesn't sound like these people are looking for a handout, seems more like they came there for opportunity, which isn't there anymore.

      [–]Z0idberg_MD 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Which I a reality of the situation.

      [–]Qender 167ポイント168ポイント  (32子コメント)

      If you read the article it does sound like he honestly thought he would be able to get a job, support himself, and then have all these nice things. Sort of like the 1950s "American dream", And eventually use the money to bring his family there too.

      I don't think it's fair to act like these people are stupid and selfish wanting handouts, when the only person put in the article literally talked about expecting a job and was probably unable to find one due to being a refugee and probably not speaking German. So he was probably just forced to hang out in the refugee camp for a few months until he gave up.

      [–]DenormalHuman 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

      You can do a lot to learn a language in a few months.

      [–]Pytheastic 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Especially if you've got nothing to do as you're waiting in a shelter.

      [–]sex_nuts 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      But they don't.

      Just like Mexican immigrants in America, many of them don't bother to learn the language. They get jobs working with friends or family, or demand that health services and other services cater to them. Almost every call I make to a government service or health service starts with "marque ocho para Español."

      It's bullshit to move somewhere and expect everyone else to cater to you.

      [–]Canadaisfullgohome 57ポイント58ポイント  (25子コメント)

      Yes Germany made the Iraqi come to Germany and then played a cruel trick on him by all companies expecting him to actually speak German, those crafty bastards, let's be fair they should all not have been racist and spoke Iraqi for him.

      [–]Zaphid 86ポイント87ポイント  (4子コメント)

      TBH I read stories that the people who help them come to Europe paint a pretty crazy picture for them, if not outright lie, to get them to pay for coming here.

      [–]SICKTIGER 42ポイント43ポイント  (1子コメント)

      They pay smugglers 15k to get them here it has to sound like paradise ..that's SO much money there

      [–]Zaphid 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sadly, it proves once again, that the greatest problem in the world is the lack of good education/information.

      [–]chipmunksocute 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes because people smuggler's always tell the truth and have no incentive to lie or exaggerate. It's kinda the refugee's fault if they believed everything they said. Not like the germans were sending leaflets to Afghanistan describing how great Germany is and telling them to move there.

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        [–]underarmfielder 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Afghani is the word for their currency. Afghan is the nationality. Either way, the refugee in question is from Iraq

        [–]OmerShah00 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Wait; what part of Afghanistan is that?

        [–]wirebodie 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

        it's not germany, it's the smugglers. dishonest middlemen always appear no matter what the situation.

        [–]PRRKRR 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Youre going in pretty hard just to say something rude about people you dont know.

        Refugees coming to america experienced a lot of hardship too..along with a painted picture nothing like the reality when they arrived.

        [–]Qender 10ポイント11ポイント  (14子コメント)

        He's a Iraqi not Afghani.

        And in most countries there are jobs available to people who speak very little of the language. It's a little harder, but not impossible. Here in California where I am, people who speak pretty much any language can still be employed.

        [–]_suckittrebek_ 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

        And in most countries there are jobs available to people who speak very little of the language.

        Yes, but those jobs are a lot rarer. So instead of being able to pick from 100% of occupations, you can now pick from maybe the 5% of occupations that don't require you to be a competent speaker in that country's primary language. And if there are a lot of you in the same boat competing for those few jobs, a lot of people will be unemployed.

        [–]Canadaisfullgohome 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

        Yes but California is California, not Berlin or Munich.

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            [–]zoidbergin 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Of the millions of refugees that came to Europe this guy seems exactly like the kind you would want to stay. He thought he could make a better life for his family than in his war torn country, when that didn't happen he went back so he could provide for his family instead of staying and mooching off the system for as long as he could. Sounds like there are lots of shitty refugees but this guy doesn't seem to be one of them. A huge house? probably not, but a stable house that doesnt have to deal with the daily threat of artillery fire? probably.

            [–]XSlor 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I have many friends now that have come from Iraq and the stories are very interesting. The one I found most interesting is that their lifestyle was VERY good before Sadam's execution. Everyone had food and money and everyone was living a very comfortable life. They've been hit with some serious life changing events and they probably figured that the welfare system in other countries was just as good as Iraq's. My personal friends haven't had a problem making a good living here, but I can see how many might feel the way they do. Iraq was a very wealthy country at one point.

            [–]helix19 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Actually it sounds like the main issue is they thought they would be allowed to bring their families, and they can't.

            [–]theprinceofkanada 52ポイント53ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Hey u/kleinerDAX, why didn't you include the paragraph before the quote that provided context to what the person said. You make it sound like these people are just looking for a handout when that is not the case at all. Stop spreading misinformation. Here is some context to the quote he posted for anyone who is interested.

            Ahmed, a 24-year-old from Irbil, Iraq, came to Germany hoping to study engineering. But after eight months waiting in vain for his asylum request to be processed, he gave up and flew home in mid-February.

            "We came here to Germany to live free but we're not free here," he said before he left. "We've got more freedom at home in Iraq than here.... I'm tired of being treated like an animal, of living in a giant room with hundreds of others and getting horrible food and having to take cold showers. I can't wait to get home."

            These people went there looking for a better life, but the system seems to be working against them so they are giving up and going home after trying, not because they are lazy and thought everything would be handed to them.

            [–]Grovestreet49 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Does it bother anyone else that the dude's priorities involved "a big house and a life of luxury. " He didn't say a whole lot about you know trying to get his family out of a war torn country. Or like not having to worry about a drone blowing up my house. Fuck that guy honestly

            [–]LesterPearsonsProjct 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

            There's no way to be sure, but by his standards, "a big house and a life of luxury" might mean "1000 square feet with a working stove."

            [–]pagodaphil 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The west: we're coming in and blowing up your country.

            Refugees: cool. Can we come over til things get better?

            The west: go build your own country ya ingrates!

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              [–]Jean_Harper 104ポイント105ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Just for anybody not getting much information about refugees and German politics concerning them: Most cities spend a bunch of money on housing and caring for refugees, mostly money they don't really have.
              Also, there are a LOT of organizations who care for refugees, try to help them pass the time, learn German, take them to the doctor and stuff like that. But you also read quite a bit about (especially women) who work with refugees and get harrassed by them due to, well, a different cultural understanding of how to treat women.
              Anyways, really! It makes me angry to read stuff like that because anybody trying to escape violence in their homecountries who is willing to act like a decent human being should be more than happy in Germany! People are working so hard on helping refugees and it's sad that some refugees are so unwilling to understand that Germany simply cannot give every person a big house or something. That's really ungrateful!

              [–]healious 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

              yep same thing is happening in Canada, the refugees were complaining that it "felt like prison" because it was cold out, and they were only being given one hotel room for free per family

              [–]rad140 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I read that story too but I've also read stories about others who are very grateful for the help and support.

              Could be some people had a certain standard of living before it went to shit and expected the same thing over here.

              [–]jtpredator 177ポイント178ポイント  (10子コメント)

              The reasons are myriad, but include overcrowded refugee centers,

              That is fair, but you have to understand that Germany already had a population when you got there, and there were swarms of you coming. It is inevitably going to be crowded. but still a fair complaint

              exasperating bureaucracy,

              No comment, I'm not too sure how the government is working there other than they've tried to reduce the # coming in.

              unfamiliar German food, a lack of jobs

              Ok first off you are going into a new country, its not like the entire country would be able to make new lives with jobs and homes for you on the spot. Its just a different style of food, its not disgusting (unless you are only given rations, but as you've mentioned, its just german food you are not familiar with)

              and a spreading sense of resentment from Germans who fear their country is being overrun by Muslims.

              Yea that tends to happen when members in your group of refugees sexually assault the local women and there are videos of your leaders claiming that you will overrun the country eventually by breeding with everyone and then making everyone a Muslim. People are accepting you and taking you in because they value diversity, and some of your leaders are spitting it back in their face by claiming that islam will eventually take over

              [–]HelmutTheHelmet 138ポイント139ポイント  (43子コメント)

              Germany is a cold, inhospitable country. The women are ugly, the men are aggressive and the food is made of pigs. The sun never warms your skin, and the plants make your eyes tear up. Don't come to Germany.

              [–]unz 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

              As a former US soldier who was stationed in Germany for four years, I can vouch for the 'sun' part. Wouldn't see the sun at all for weeks at a time down in the Hessen area. Of course, I also spent almost 2 of those four years in Iraq, and I was OVERJOYED to return to Germany from Iraq both times, although I'm sure my experiences in both countries differ greatly from the guy in the article.

              [–]wtfOP 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

              did everyone miss your obvious joke?

              [–]HelmutTheHelmet 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yes, they did. I'm a little surprised.

              [–]sex_nuts [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              They totally did

              [–]doirtos 29ポイント30ポイント  (24子コメント)

              German women are hot man..

              [–]TQQQ 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Next you're going to tell me not all their food is made of pigs.

              [–]thegreatgazoo 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

              It is the wurst

              [–]clausy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Our wurst is the best. Tag line for Herman ze German sausage place in London.

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                [–]Cessnaporsche01 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Shush! You'll give it away!

                [–]doirtos 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Doesn't matter. I live in the Netherlands, with 1 hour I'm in Germany. I'll snatch one quickly when the hype train filled with refugees are on their way.

                [–]harTroligenFel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                No. /German

                [–]sex_nuts 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Whoosh

                Look at his username. He's being ironical!

                [–]doirtos [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Well.. The sun never warms your skin and the plants might actually tear your eyes up...

                [–]willfordbrimly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                But to someone from a culture where women are things, not people, the values of a Western woman might be a deal-breaker.

                [–]Sl1pstream 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Do they voltron into this hot man form?

                [–]WhiteWestie 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I don't like hot men.

                [–]Sir_Chrysa 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I guess you don't want my money then.

                -A Dutchie who likes German supermarkets.

                [–]Carnifex 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Ok. What do you want? I'll give you any German Supermarket if I get the awesome Albert Hejn from tref Center in Venlo.

                Deal?

                [–]MagicFlyingBus 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Meine Freundin ist Deutsch , und sie ist schön!

                [–]milk_ninja 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                du hastn ein schöne hand.

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                  [–]The_Paul_Alves 32ポイント33ポイント  (51子コメント)

                  I wonder what they fed he immigrants...because food in Europe is generally amazing. Either they fed them shit or the food in Iraq must be super.

                  [–]onthehornsofadilemma 55ポイント56ポイント  (10子コメント)

                  If they're just reporting on what's going on in Germany, the refugees may think that Germans only eat pork sausages and other foods that aren't halal. They may not have the palate for European foods, like how South Americans wouldn't be too keen on eating Tejano or Mexican food. I know there's more to Mediterranean food than kebab and goat cheese, but there's nothing that prepares an Iraqi for bratwurst.

                  [–]Eurynom0s 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  I mean I know the Turks in Germany had to adapt döner for the German palate, it's not like Germans just took to the Turkish version of it.

                  [–]Prof_Acorn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  There's Turkish restaurants on like every corner though.

                  [–]Granadafan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Arabic food is rich in spices. Central European food is bland in comparison

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                    [–]mrthewhite 43ポイント44ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    I'm sure it wasn't the best food in the world, but I'm also sure any homeless in the country would have been happy to take whatever meals the refugees were getting.

                    [–]Spineless_John 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    Are there a lot of homeless people in Germany?

                    [–]scofield608 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    There are quite a few, at least here in Berlin. The thing is you don't have to be homeless in Germany. If you apply for it you get welfare, shelter, and food from the state. If you're homeless, you're more or less homeless by choice. I heard a lot of people find it degrading to be fully supported by tax payer money so they refuse to ask for it.

                    [–]ishkariot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    people find it degrading to be fully supported by tax payer money so they refuse to ask for it

                    ...so they become beggars instead. Kinda ironic.

                    [–]s3sebastian 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Not a lot, because the state pays for a small flat if you're unemployed. However some people don't seem to make use of it, because there are some homeless people in bigger cities. Maybe they have other problems or don't want to go to the welfare agency for some reason.

                    [–]minimim 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    It's generally a mental health problem when that happens.

                    [–]A_Sinclaire 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I just looked it up.

                    in 2014 there were 39,000 homeless people in Germany as well as 335,000 people without their own apartment (living in shelters, assisted living etc but also refugees).

                    [–]87ffdy654 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Last number I saw was around 130000 335000 citizens without a home, out of which 39.000 live long term on the streets. In a country of 80M.

                    edit: updated the numbers.

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                      [–]Disney_World_Native 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Assuming that most are Islamic, doesn't their religion forbid the consumption of pork? Doesn't that eliminate a lot of German food?

                      [–]Spambop 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There are some greasy spoons I could take you to in London that would disabuse you of this notion.

                      [–]rac3r5 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      From my experience in Germany, the food is quite bland. Sauerkraut and schnitzel becomes blah pretty soon. From my travels in Europe, apart from France, Italy, Greece and Spain, European food is a tad bit bland.

                      [–]hackl 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I guess it is just very different from what they are used to. As a Brit who has spent a lot of time in continental Europe, I can tell you that you're right, Europe has some incredible food but in the grand scheme of things, German cuisine isn't anywhere near the top of the list.

                      [–]burrowowl -4ポイント-3ポイント  (23子コメント)

                      because food in Europe is generally amazing.

                      No, dude. Some Euro food is amazing. Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal, obviously France.

                      But eastern European food is largely pretty bad. I mean each country has some things that are good. No one does sausages and other pork products like the Polish. Pierogis can be good, etc. etc.

                      But for the most part northern and eastern european food is pretty bad.

                      And of course there is the legendarily bad British food, but nowadays London is such an international city that you can get anything there.

                      [–]C900 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I don't know what Eastern European country you ate in, but Slovak food is pretty damn good. Russian food? Haven't had a positive experience. Hungarian food? A lot of it is great. Romanian food? No idea. Eastern Europe is big. Can't lump all these countries together.

                      [–]th30be 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

                      I love how you just say it is bad without actually explain how any of it is bad.

                      [–]launcher87 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      This is utter bullshit. Like, insanse bullshit. Bosnian, serbian and croatian food is amazing, if you dont have a problem with the overpowering meat eating culture. Then theres hungarian goulash . . .

                      [–]dip-my-nuts-in-sauce 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Irish food and restaurants are top notch. Incredibly high standard

                      [–]ginganinga223 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      A guy I worked with if from Albania and moved to Ireland 20ish years ago. He said the quality of basic foods in Ireland blew his mind when he moved first. Even just a chicken breast tasted so different to what he was used to. Anytime he goes back to visit he cant believe what people eat. Said he cant touch milk or other dairy products while home.

                      [–]The_Paul_Alves 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yeah, I was thinking Portugal. Everything tastes amazing there. From the seafood to the bread.

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                        [–]SamMee514 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Oh man these comments are going to be lovely

                        [–]Devastatedby 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I think these comments are some of the worst I've ever seen. Pure shameful.

                        [–]trekie88 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        This does not surprise me. These smugglers promised paradise, but when something sounds to good to be true it usually is.

                        [–]SmellsLikeBread [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Many people from the east have great expectations about Europe. For a host of different reasons, they find that it's not quite as green on the other side as they imagined, and sometimes it can be anything but.

                        It's idealized to a preposterous extent in some people's eyes.

                        [–]th30be 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        The reasons are myriad, but include overcrowded refugee centers, exasperating bureaucracy, unfamiliar German food, a lack of jobs and a spreading sense of resentment from Germans who fear their country is being overrun by Muslims.

                        Did they really expect hala shops on every street corner or something?

                        "I wanted to live in peace with my family as far away from war as possible," said Abdulla, a 37-year-old who had worked as a truck driver in Iraq. "But what I've seen in Europe is not what I dreamed about. It's not what [the smugglers] told me it would be.

                        Why in the world would you believe anything a law breaker smuggler tells you?

                        We came here to Germany to live free but we're not free here," he said before he left. "We've got more freedom at home in Iraq than here.... I'm tired of being treated like an animal, of living in a giant room with hundreds of others and getting horrible food and having to take cold showers. I can't wait to get home."

                        These expectations are really ridiculous.

                        [–]Itwillwashoff -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Propaganda at its worst

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