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DiscussionOfficial Oscar Thread 2016 (self.movies)

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Welcome to the /r/movies Official Oscar Thread. Some notes about tonight.

  1. All Oscar related content posted to /r/movies will be condensed to this thread.

  2. Sort the thread by new and refresh often so you can see the most recent comments and join the conversation!

  3. There will be a post Oscar discussion thread as well posted half an hour after the Oscars end.

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  5. Check out the results of the /r/movies voted Oscars here!

Best Original Screenplay

  • Spotlight

Best Adapted Screenplay

  • The Big Short

Best Supporting Actress

  • Alicia Vikander for The Danish Girl

Best Cinematography

  • The Revenant

Best Supporting Actor

  • Mark Rylance for Bridge of Spies

Best Film Editing

  • Mad Max: Fury Road

Best Original Song

  • Sam Smith, Writings On The Wall

Best Director

  • Alejandro González Iñárritu

Best Actress

  • Brie Larson for Room

Best Actor

  • Leonardo DiCaprio for The Revenant

Best Picture

  • Spotlight

Here is a full list of nominees.

The ceremony is at 8:30pm tonight Eastern time on ABC.

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[–]PlatypsPlatyps 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congratulations, Leo!

http://imgur.com/gallery/sr5cuQr/new

[–]justa1ntcare 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why were some people wearing a single black glove?

[–]ADIDASects 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

For those keeping track at home, Stacy Dash is 49 years old. This does not help create realistic expectations of how women age for me.

[–]KyleG 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt people knew her age until you said something about it. So if anything, your comment does not help.

[–]goostman 34ポイント35ポイント  (20子コメント)

That was, by far, one of the embarrassing Oscars in recent memory. It was a white guilt trip wrapped up in an award ceremony. I'm not denying Hollywood might have racial tendencies but the Oscars shouldn't be a soapbox to talk about racism for 3 hours. I just wanted to look at hot girls in nice dresses and watch Leo get his award. Instead, I got a fancy Black Lives Matter rally.

[–]gumpmeister 8ポイント9ポイント  (17子コメント)

So you are complaining that they use a big event to address actual issues and not just hide the problems?

Edit: Well that was quick

[–]a-memorable-fancy 8ポイント9ポイント  (15子コメント)

>actual issues

>mfw black acting oscar noms are exactly proportional to the percentage of black americans

[–]Lord_Noble 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's more than just that. White people getting roles of minorities is pretty damn common.

[–]a-memorable-fancy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not nearly as common as whites playing just plain whites.

[–]gumpmeister 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

And what about other races?

[–]a-memorable-fancy 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

What about them?

[–]gumpmeister 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Their noms aren't exactly proportional to their demographics.

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's actually what I think was up about the little Asian accountants bit—"we spent this whole time pretending we aren't racist toward blacks and now here's a joke about Asians who are good at math that you're ALL laughing at oh and also there was that 'tiny Asian penis' joke earlier you all laughed at, too. RACISTS."

[–]a-memorable-fancy 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Should they be?

[–]gumpmeister 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

...why not?

[–]a-memorable-fancy 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

White actors will reach white audiences better. It shouldn't shock that a majority white country has majority white roles. Its not supremacy, just demographic proportionality.

[–]Wazula42 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, what did you expect? It was Chris Rock hosting, for crying out loud.

[–]goostman 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I expected him to address the issue. I didn't expect him to beat a dead horse.

[–]Bluntycunt 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too bad Dave Chappelle didn't host it. I think he would've done a way better job, funny too. Chris Rock is terribly overrated. Is the whole controversy about black people only or about diversity?

It felt like, "lets guilt the whiteys into nominating us next year" show. Things have been changing, especially television. Movies will too, it takes time. Addressing the issues are necessary, but force-feeding it down people's throats will actually do more harm than good. It also doesn't help that this all started by one of the most annoying family in the world, The Smiths.

Edit: To to Too

[–]Officer_Lockstock95 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Received lots of much needed moral instruction from Hollywood.

[–]dametupata 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chris Rock does realise there are other minorities in the US besides BLACK PEOPLE, doesn't he?

[–]KyleG 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, hence his over-the-top Asian racist thing, which I 100% believe was supposed to be holding a mirror up to the faux-liberalism of the Hollywood elites.

[–]asu928 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Anyone else get annoyed by Chris Rock and everyone else's little jabs at the diversity thing? I know it's an issue but I just wanted to wash the Oscars without jokes on races. Especially Sarah Silverman and her jokes on James Bond and Idris Elba's "too street" bs.

[–]Who-trew-dees-beans 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

What pissed me off is how selfish the diversity thing is. Chris knocked Hollywood for liking black people then saying "but you're not a kappa". Like they aren't in their little sorority group.

Funny enough though, it seems like the black struggle does the same thing. Representation of other minority groups in hollywood is very low as well, but since those people aren't "black"(kappa) they don't get their issues aired. Not once did Chris bring up another ethnic group it was all black people against hollywood. Jog on, if you are really about 'diversity' you're arguments wouldn't be so dominated by black vs. white. Don't say anything like this if you aren't black though or you'll be collectively crucified on social media and in the news probably by the race opportunists that use shit like that to gain personal wealth and status.

[–]Officer_Lockstock95 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The peak was when Iniarritu won and was overtime with his speech about skin color. It looked like wasn't planning on that last tidbit but said it anyway.

[–]thekittyjuice20 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought it was funny the first couple times but they beat it like a dead horse.

[–]asu928 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here like it was funny at first but carrying it throughout the entire show was a big no.

[–]Supernova6 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/gifs/leo-toast-9.w529.h352.gif

[–]Cruzinspeed 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want to point out the injustice. Both Best Actor awards went to actors starring in movies that begin with the letter 'R' - Room & Revenant. What about the other letters of the alphabet? When will Hollywood stop being complicit in the tyranny?

[–]locustgate 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does anyone have Chris Rock's full opening, I can only find clips and people talking about it.

[–]_fulgrator_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Chris Rock had really unoriginal material, I'm really disappointed

[–]badillin 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ali G was funnier in the 30secs he was on stage because he actually told more than 2 jokes.

[–]PorcupineTheory -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? No. No no no no. That doesn't make any sense. How?

[–]Danielrh9 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

So many questionable and confusing wins last night:

Sam Smith - From what I've gathered, this is largely considered not only a terrible song, but also one of the very worst Bond themes. I personally have not encountered a single person who actively likes it. How does such a puerile and empty song win over the likes of Gaga's lyrics full of timely meaning?

Mark Rylance - Surely deserved, as his performance in Bridge of Spies was so subtly powerful. That's insanely hard to pull off effectively. But what specific factors helped him pull off the underdog win over Rocky himself? Sly had all the momentum going in. What happened?

Alejandro González Iñárritu - This one is a bit infuriating, as George Miller probably just directed the masterpiece of the decade that fresh directors will be using as a template for years. Not saying that Iñárritu didn't deserve it, as The Revenant was brilliant in presentation and execution, but it's just so confusing that someone could win two in a row over the master work of such a genius.

[–]AwesomeFurrow 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree with you on Sam Smith but the other awards are definitely deserved.

[–]ScienceGuyChris221B 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rylance. There. That's my problem. Stallone was a sure win. Apparently not.

[–]thepaperpusher 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I liked the Revenant but it didn't blow me away. Fury Road blew my mind in theatres. I went back the next day to watch it again. It was a completely amazing film and felt so raw and exciting. It's been a long time since I felt that excited about a movie. It felt like being on a roller coaster ride.

[–]HumbleCicero 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really liked the song, movie was horrible, but the song was solid in my opinion. About the Lady Gaga song: yes the subject she's singing about is very powerful, but the actual song is really nothing special. The lyrics are minimal and it seemed like Gaga was trying to compensate for their lack of impact with her over the top performance. I didn't see Sam Smith's performance last night, however.

[–]MyCollegeThoughts 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a little late to this, but I have to say it because it's been bothering me all night...Amy winning best documentary is SUCH A JOKE! I can't believe that won over Look of Silence or What Haopened to Miss Simone or Winter on Fire. Im convinced that awards only go to the most popular name.

[–]reallygoodniceperson 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that The Act Of Killing & The Look Of Silence both lost is unbelievable. I saw Amy and thought it was very well done, but for anyone to say it's better than The Look Of Silence is so completely baffling to me.

[–]Dont-Fear-The-Raeper 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Michael Keaton fistpump and mouthing, "fuck yeah!" was gold.

[–]JacobCrim88 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Overall good oscars. Fucking travesty about best song, documentary feature and animated film tho.

At least they didn't give Matt Damon the Oscar for his powerful performance /s

[–]bzqa 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are you talking about the Martian? Because holy shit do I agree with you

[–]JacobCrim88 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

You agree that he shouldnt have been nominated?

[–]ItsNadaTooma 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

He was Matt Damon acting like Matt Damon in that movie. Not exactly a role that tested his acting ability. I liked the movie. The film deserved an award nomination, but not Damon himself.

[–]kjdflkas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno I thought the impressive part about his performance was that for most of the movie he is just being Matt Damon, winking and grinning at the camera, but when shit truly goes south and you start feeling his fear and loneliness it was very powerful. I know I teared up when he was getting ready to blast off at the end and he told them he was scared; I thought he was great. Probably didn't deserve to win but I thought the nomination was definitely warranted.

[–]JacobCrim88 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly how I feel. With so many great roles from last year they nominate Matt Damon? Paul Dano forever snubbed.

[–]CaptainFoxButttt 60ポイント61ポイント  (1子コメント)

rip meme 1993-2016

meme goes to high school

meme goes to college

meme met love of his life

meme ded at 23

[–]Pokabou 43ポイント44ポイント  (7子コメント)

This was one of the most cringe-worthy oscars ever

[–]funkmasterlincoln 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't go that far. The time Anne Hathaway and James Franco co-hosted together was just painful. I thought Chris Rock did a pretty decent job.

[–]EmperorHasNoCloth 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

just heard some of the Rocks clips....I don't know how people laugh at rape and lynching jokes even with the context of whitewashing...

[–]MalvolioTheMisguided 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you saying that based off the comedic structure of the joke, or the simple fact that they referenced something unpleasant?

[–]ClintonHarvey 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I liked it.

But then again I'm a sucker for the oscars. They're my SuperbOwl.

[–]Ausrufepunkt 53ポイント54ポイント  (5子コメント)

Best Original Song
Sam Smith, Writings On The Wall

Ayyyy what a joke, Broccoli Lobbying at its best, gotta get that sweet oscar winner sticker for their franchise.

[–]TheTurnipKnight 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was a shock. How is that even possible, he even performed it terribly right there.

[–]DragonEevee1 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its even worst when you hear how better the RadioHead version of the song is

[–]kimjong-ill 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate Sam Smith, hated his Bond theme, and love Radiohead, but I'd still be hard pressed to call it a better Bond theme. It's a better musical work for sure, but it doesn't sound right at all for Bond. Smith's still fits even though it's boring as shit.

[–]DragonEevee1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay I can agree to that. Radiohead is a better piece but Sam Smith is more bondy

[–]DeathMetalViking666 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was such a terrible song in general. Let alone for a Bond movie. Remember Thunderball, or Goldfinger? Some incredible and memorable songs. Writing's on the Wall was a whiney, forgettable turd.

[–]Michael_Gough 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did anyone else think that some of the camerawork was a bit off during the show?

[–]ClintonHarvey 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

A bit???

The director should be hit in the head with a bowl of ice.

[–]Heisenburrito 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was this random quick shot of the side of someone's seat and the guy still standing in frame when lady gaga's song began. Normally I don't even notice these things but they were hard to miss.

[–]bluestreakxp 73ポイント74ポイント  (7子コメント)

Mad Max: Ten Noms, 6 wins.

Martian: 7 Noms, 0 wins.

Matt Damon: still waiting in his dressing room at Jimmy Kimmel Live

[–]bzqa -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably because the Martian just wasnt that great. No one will remember that movie in 5 years

[–]shooter_mcgav 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Actually, he is not; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP4d9YtzkXk

[–]Grimsrasatoas 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

haha that was great. What's the back story though?

[–]Whysoseriousplebs 85ポイント86ポイント  (17子コメント)

It was terribly cringeworthy Chris Rock spends almost every second of his hosting time making mean spirited white people jokes and complaining about there not being enough blacks.

He 'goes to compton' and 'interviews' people about how they felt about there being no blacks in the oscars, all were annoyed, though when he asks them if they had seen any of the movies nominated for best film, none of them have, one person only barely knows who Steven Spielberg is, only serving to make blacks look ignorant and rude.

He makes an extremely tasteless joke about asian accountants/child labour. Some of the winners try to talk about climate change to appear relevant.

[–]TheTurnipKnight 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought that that was exactly the point of his jokes and monologues.

[–]KyleG -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You aren't the only one. I posted on FB before the monologue saying I thought he was intentionally bombing, and then when he brought out the Asian kids at the end I was like "yup, that's exactly what he's doing to make a comment about how everyone's talking about black people in this protest but Latinos and Asians are the ones really getting fucked."

[–]lottie186 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

That was terrible idea. people on the street not just showing how ignorant they are in terms of movies since they had not heard of the nominated films. they also showed how little they paid attention to movies made that are about historically significant stories (Spotlight & Bridge of Spies)

[–]Floodseeker 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Actually I think the point of it all was to demonstrate how unconnected the "controversy" was for the real people in the street. Hollywood lives in a bubble and they make movies about white people issues and they've been shamed into make an entire telecast around white guilt. Even the cookie segment joke was about white guilt: buy some cookies from these black girls in a worldwide television event.

Most people didnt watch those movies because they are NOT appealing to them, no matter the issues they portrait. Most people just go to the movies to escape reality with the marvel or the rom coms or the Kevin Harts of today.

[–]HistoricalNazi[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ding Ding Ding! Couldn't agree more. I can't believe how much people are shitting on Chris Rock in here.

[–]my5SensesWorth 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hollywood lives in a bubble

Never have I seen it worded so well. They have tunnel vision where people and their ethnicity or gender might be portrayed in a movie. Indians are the bad guys, Blacks are the bad guys, Gays are comical and pitiful, men are macho, and women are kardashious. When Marlon Brando boycotted the oscars in the 70s and sent a Native American in his stead, she was booed and ridiculed as well as Brando. Blacks and women got the right to vote before Native Americans before that it was white men who were landowners. We've come a long way and there is still a lot of work to be done as far as equitable treatment in these United States. We still have a Bureau of Indian Affairs. Why? Probably, the same reason as having the NAACP.

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blacks and women got the right to vote before Native Americans

What?

[–]phattoneinc 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the other hand, I found Leo's speech is harmless. It's so much better than the usual hysterical, self-entitled speeches that are so dominant in award ceremonies. Those speeches are fucking boring. I'm glad Leo's bringing something fresh to the table.

[–]Pokabou -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly, this is an event about MOVIES, not politics

[–]KyleG -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

How dare private individuals want to influence things they have opinions about.

[–]AThiker05 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was cringe inducing. I get the open monologue would deal with it, but the whole show? I had to turn it off after the janitor Whoopie skit, I knew I would read the results on here this morning.

[–]zzonked7 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some of the winners try to talk about climate change to appear relevant.

Agreed with you except for this line. Climate change is pretty fucking important. I do believe that they probably genuinely are trying to use the platform to get people talking about it more.

[–]screenfan 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

did woody and buzz say "toy story" is 20 years old? good god

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. 1995.

[–]JOVIsxD -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They did!! Maybe they were jealous of Pokemon?

[–]HeyRam123 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

That aussie sound editor who dropped the F-bomb. What a fucking legend.

[–]otheraccounttt 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wanted to make sure the TV sound editor ha something to do.

[–]scaryclownzinmyhouse 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

How many black presenters did they bring out?

[–]kutwijf 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

EV-ERY-ONE!!

[–]krazay88 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just couldn't stop myself from laughing everytime a new black presenter appeared. ZERO subtlety. It was sort of pathetic hahaha.

[–]lottie186 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

all of them

[–]donoteatthatfrog 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

"everybody"

[–]royaldansk 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Were those little information boxes new? Together with getting all the black presenters, it really sent a message of "Hey, what are you talking about, black people have been nominated and won before. Look at these guys, they won this many times and got nominated this many times! It wasn't on purpose this year or any year that no one got nominated. Geez."

[–]screenfan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i lost count really

[–]MasterLawlz/r/Flicks Veteran 67ポイント68ポイント  (7子コメント)

What are the odds of Louis CK hosting the show next year? He was great in that very short time he was on stage.

[–]UWbadgers16 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

His bit knocked it out of the park. As much as the Oscars is a pat-on-the-back to a lot of rich people, I'd love someone like Louis CK or Bill Burr as host to give them the right amount of shit and keep things more grounded.

[–]Heisenburrito 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kind of funny that he said that their oscar win would be their only achievement and then it appeared to be her second oscar. But fuck yeah, I'm all for Louis CK as the host next year.

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I got on Twitter after the Oscars to see what the blowback on the Asian stuff was, and I was treated to a deluge of Pakistanis making death threats about the woman who won "not being positive about Pakistan" and being a traitor.

[–]jonbristow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the only time I genuinely LOL.

I love him

[–]joshlamm 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would love that! An added bonus: he'd be the first half Mexican host. diversity!

[–]Lorne_Velcoro 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Both Louis CK and Sacha Baron Cohen should host next year.

[–]Himrion 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yes! they were frankly the only two funny things about tonights dreadful presentation

[–]rafessi 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

Good win for Spotlight, predicted this one... a little surprised Winslet didn't win, thought she provided a fabulous performance, up there with some of her best.

Richly deserved for Brie Larson and Innaritu and FINALLY, one for Leo. Just saw his speech and it was amazing.

[–]papercutpete -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Spotlight

No way that should have won for best picture in my opinion, 2-3 other choices before that movie. They dropped the ball on the best picture winner.

[–]kjdflkas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was a really great movie, and maybe I wouldn't have voted for it but I wouldn't say "No way it should have won"

[–]InsanityIsTrueSanity 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would've been awesome if both Kate and Leo won the same night.

[–]rafessi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I agree but I don't think Kate would have been able to handle all the emotions... ; )

[–]sufjanatic 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hilarious watching everyone from all sides getting pissed at Chris Rock. Like that wasn't his goal???

[–]VirtualMoneyLover 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I would vote for only Asian or Latino people next year just to piss him off.

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think Rock would be pretty pleased that his subversive takendown of #oscarssowhite worked exactly as planned. You think he actually meant that Asian racist joke? No, that was him tipping his hand that he'd been trolling the audience all night. And if you still didn't get it, his last line of the night was "see you in August for the BET awards [which I totally know none of you liberal white folks give a shit about]."

[–]VirtualMoneyLover -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Next year we should nominate a ton of Asian and Latino people but no blacks. That way he can't claim minority discrimination. Also would be an excellent trollback...

[–]KyleG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It had better be Asians because if it's Latinos, well, I mean, they are caucasian. Most of them, anyway. It's technically an ethnicity not a race, because you can be black and latino (like Tatyana Ali) or even Asian and latino (like my wife and any future kids we have). Or German and Latino, like the kids of all the Nazis who fled to Argentina after WWII :)

[–]mgforpresident 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That will sure get him.. 😴

[–]Margatron 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

Aaaaaugh, Don't Hertzfeldt didn't win best short film animated. My shit has been flipped.

[–]fauxhb 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

WHAT THE FUCK? who won? i saw them all and they were all terrible. the french should be hanged in the woods for those shitty cartoons with that terrible CGI and non existent stories

[–]Margatron 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bear Story won. Fuck everything. Hertzfeldt didn't win for Rejected which has the memeyest memes of all time. And now he makes this fucking masterpiece and doesn't win. Fuck everything with a giant spoon.

[–]eskanonen 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

the link you posted says Rejected in an Oscar Award winner. I'm sure it's wrong, but still, it's kind of funny.

[–]Margatron 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. It was nominated but didn't win either.

[–]karliekisbae 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm so happy that Brie Larson won her first Oscar! :D

YAY BRIE LARSON!!!!!

[–]WafflesTheDuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is great in her comedic roles but she was perfect for that role. Great adaptation in general.

[–]Definitelypriviledge 47ポイント48ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone should have gone up who won and said "Let me start off by apologizing for being white."

[–]Essuom 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

Conan needs to host the Oscars. His NFL honors opening monologue was gold.

[–]tracknumberseven 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Link?

[–]ItsMeTK 18ポイント19ポイント  (16子コメント)

For those surprised by Spotlight, it's worth noting that votes for Best Picture rely on a weird weighted system. It's not "the most votes wins". Voters rank the films from favorite to least and then percentages are tallied and a movie has to get so much oercent or something like that. It's complicated. Point is, Mad Max was probably polarizing, with some loving and some hating. Spotlight was middle of the road and well-reviewed, so that probably helped it in the overall weighted tally.

[–]infinitallie 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I loved Spotlight though, out of all the movies I saw nominated for best picture though that was the one I would've chosen. Such a heavy subject matter presented so well.

[–]papercutpete -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Spotlight

I am not sure if you have seen the other movies, but for sure Revenant and The Big Short were much better films than Spotlight.

[–]infinitallie 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I will admit I haven't seen all of the Best Picture nominations, Spotlight from last year was a personal favorite of mine but I prefer that type of movie overall.

[–]papercutpete 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you at least see The Big Short? That was amazing. I will say, you have a movie with best actor, best director and it should have also won best picture (The Revenant)

[–]infinitallie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did not. I'd not even heard of it until last night. However, I will watch it this week.

[–]izvoodoo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an Econ major, I do have to point out, that that system of voting is far more fair than a one person one vote since there's so many options.

That idea actually won the Nobel prize. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem

[–]naryn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

For those surprised by Spotlight, it's worth noting that votes for Best Picture rely on a weird weighted system. It's not "the most votes wins".

It's not that weird. Eurovision uses a similar system with having weighted votes.

[–]aydee123 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess that voters rank movies from 1 to 10, with first-place vote getting ten points, a second-place vote getting nine points, and so on.

Most points wins. Ties are broken by which film got more first-place votes.

[–]AyoubMilkyway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it doesn't work like that. The system is much more consensus-based than points based and quite complicated, but makes a lot of sense mathematically. The winner is chosen like this: everyone has a ballot on which they give their top 5 movies. If a movie has more than 50% percent of first place votes, it wins. But that rarely happens. So the movie with the fewest first place votes gets kicked out, and the vote goes to the second choice of each of those ballots... and so on until there's a movie with more than 50% of first choice votes.

But the way they decide on the nominations is another process altogether

[–]Condestavel 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

If anything I would have expected the Revenant to win, not Mad Max.

[–]ItsMeTK 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Revenant was more impressive from a technical level, but I think many found it lacking something.

[–]HellaBrainCells 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

dialogue for one

[–]BanjoPanda 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

which Mad Max totally doesn't lack either.

[–]za19 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah, revenant was actually the frontrunner. spotlight with the upset.

[–]fistNstar 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really? I thought most of the informal polls showed a toss up between spotlight and The big short?

[–]za19 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

no revenant was frontrunner, with spotlight and big short as possible spoilers. and mad max was dark horse.

[–]jwrider98 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good. Now everyone will shut up about Leo not getting an Oscar.

[–]darienrude_dankstorm 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but le meme is dead what do we do now xdddddddd

[–]dred1367 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

New wording: TIL Leonardo Dicaprio didn't win an Oscar until 2016 after having been nominated 5 times. That man's name? Leonardo Dicaprio!

[–]distressedpenguin -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Quvenzhane was robbed!!!!!!

[–]Easilycrazyhat 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone else notice that in one of the montages for The Hateful Eight, they threw in an "innocuous" clip from the scene where Hateful Eight spoilers. I mean, wow. That's ballsy.

[–]Vega5Star 29ポイント30ポイント  (29子コメント)

AS A BLACK GUY I watched this show with a very different crowd and it's both funny and sad too see how predictable reddit's reaction would be. The way some of you complain about SJWs and trigger warnings and people being offended too easily is amazing when contrasted to the ferocity to which you get offended over the mere mention of race. It manages to be both damning and hilarious.

Also in case any of you were wondering about the context of the girl scout gag throughout the show: http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/news/a37083/catholics-warned-against-girl-scouts/

If you can take a break from being traumatized that is.

[–]samdenyer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I had money I would give you all the gold.

[–]cgo255 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Last night was no where near a "mear mention" of race.

[–]kjdflkas -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see how the two things are any different or a sign of hypocrisy. Reddit largely finds SJWs and trigger warnings laughable and downplays it to be people overreacting in a dumb way.

The general vibe I've seen on Reddit is that people think the incessant talk about race and diversity was a laughable overreaction and really out of place for a film awards show.

[–]New_new_ron 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well what do you want? Guilt should not be a determining factor of who wins. Many nominees were based on real people/true stories. Should we be casting a black/Hispanic/Asian guy to play a white guy to be fair? No that's silly. Leo didn't get offered to play MLK in Selma because that would be silly.

Only 13% of this country is black, compared to over 60% white. More movies are probably made to appeal to the majority because they need to be profitable. AS A WHITE GUY I'm tired of equal representation being confused with fair representation.

[–]5678903 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I posted earlier in this thread:

It's well documented that blacks tend to be bypassed in favor of whites when it comes to opportunity and advancement in various situations. And it's well documented that negative qualities are subconsciously associated with blacks in a way which aren't with whites. It's not hard to believe that this creates an atmosphere wherein black actors are unfairly skipped when it comes to casting for Oscar worthy roles. Here's a revealing article if you're truly interested in productive conversation.

[–]an-can 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Waaay to few Inuit Oscar winners if you ask me.

[–]sharfpang 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

Look. Listen to one wise man, a man who won five Oscars so far. And who's black.

WALLACE: Black History Month, you find ...

FREEMAN: Ridiculous.

WALLACE: Why?

FREEMAN: You're going to relegate my history to a month?

WALLACE: Come on.

FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.

WALLACE: I'm Jewish.

FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?

WALLACE: There isn't one.

FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?

WALLACE: No, no.

FREEMAN: I don't either. I don't want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.

WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until ...?

FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You're not going to say, "I know this white guy named Mike Wallace." Hear what I'm saying?

Instead of complaining about the injustice and unfairness, become an excellent director, or an excellent actor, or an excellent writer. Gather other like-minded talented, dedicated people. Earn that Oscar.

I don't give a shit what skin color is the guy who wins, as long as they did a superior job. Neither should you. But if you still do, instead of complaining "not enough Oscars for black", complain "Not enough Oscar-worthy black actors!" - but better than complaining, do something about it.

Do you really wish the Academy gave out awards for skin color??

BTW, before playing the discrimination card, look up the start of career of Danny Trejo. Just tell me that guy had an even start.

[–]Rambo1stBlood 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dat Chris Rock doe

[–]tinyschlong68 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

AS A WHITE GUY i completely agree with you.

[–]postblitz 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a white guy, "SJW and trigger warnings" are quite the plague of entitlement everywhere.

They get no respect from me because they are literally a crowd of people who complain for others to cater to them instead of them contributing to existing entities and be the authors of change themselves.

[–]BullshitUsername 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

I like how you started your comment with AS A BLACK GUY

[–]ItsTyrrellYo 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

AS A BLACK GUY I think I'm going to start all my posts like that

[–]BullshitUsername 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

AS A BLACK GUY I'm finishing this sentence

[–]_AVLX_ 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

AS A BLACK GUY I'm actually not black I just wanna feel like part of the gang.

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