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Climate change 'most existential crisis civilisation has known', says DiCaprio | "if you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in modern science or empirical truths – and you will be on the wrong side of history." (theguardian.com)

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    [–]johnnynutman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Probably the best place to preach since it's clearly a big example of over indulgence.

    [–]spikyraccoon [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    a guy preaching down to everyone and probably has a bigger carbon footprint than 99% of the world.

    I'm by no means a crazy Leo fan, but 1 glance at his wikipedia and you would know that this rich kid has done more for the environment than most of us will. Besides you can label every well funded initiative to bring awareness as preaching if you may. The collective awareness and response this 1 speech can potentially bring is much more useful than cutting down carbon emissions of every single person in that room. So, there goes all your issues.

    [–]sp0ck06 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    a guy preaching down to everyone and probably has a bigger carbon footprint than 99% of the world.

    I would argue that him using his position and fame to advocate for the cause of fighting climate change is doing far more good than him trying to reduce his own carbon footprint.

    [–]BreweryInTheSky [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I don't understand how anyone could criticize Leo for this. If you know anything about him you know this issue is dear to him and last night he was on stage in front of millions of people. He chose to use the moment to further what he believes is the most important issue humanity faces today.

    I think most of us, given the opportunity to speak to a hundred million people at once, would also use the opportunity to say words that might make a difference.

    [–]the_opinion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I don't understand how anyone could criticize Leo for this

    Really? A huge number of people basically live to shit all over anything anyone says. Somebody could single-handedly defeat ISIS whilst simultaneously curing cancer and solving the oil crisis, and a whole bunch of people would instantly dismiss them as an attention-seeking cunt. Seeing how many people dismiss ideas like this simply because someone famous is saying them makes me think that human extinction might be the most appropriate outcome.

    [–]PhysicsIsMyMistress [スコア非表示]  (22子コメント)

    Fucking do research

    He owns an electric Tesla Roadster,[123] a Fisker Karma plug-in hybrid,[124] and a Toyota Prius.[125] He has also installed solar panels on his house.[122]

    [–]yzlautum [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I think he owns an island where he is building a green resort or something like that.

    [–]chemotherapy001 [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

    building three electric cars requires more CO2 than building and driving one gasoline powered car.

    [–]Adillies [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

    Why would it take any more CO2 to build an electric car then it would to build a gasoline-powered car?

    [–]Brekkjern [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Batteries are complex to produce and create a large amount of CO2 during production.

    [–]tau-lepton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    An electric car over its lifetime has less than 2/3 the carbon footprint of a typical ICE vehicle.

    http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/electric-cars-green

    For all the comparisons in this map the vehicle manufacturing of a gasoline car is just 40g CO2e/km compared to 70g CO2e/km for the electric vehicle. This is because we have accounted for both a greater manufacturing footprint and lower lifetime mileage in an electric car.

    and that gets better as share of renewables increase.

    [–]LuckyWoody [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Different systems throughout. I don't know how different they are, but they won't be the same value. He's just saying two (electric) cars produces more CO2 than driving one gasoline car. That's hard to back up unless he uses specific makes and models.

    [–]tau-lepton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It actually depends a lot on the source of electricity, on average it is 4/7 the CO2 for an EV vs a typical gasoline car. However if one uses solar, wind, hydro, or nuclear it is much less than 1/2.

    [–]chemotherapy001 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    three

    not one

    [–]kadno [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    I don't know enough about it, but from what I've heard, the batteries are a huge deal. From mining the required components to manufacturing them to shipping and literally everything about them.

    But I honestly haven't done any research, so I could be way wrong.

    [–]27Rench27 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Not if the factory used renewable energy.

    [–]tau-lepton [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Good thing rich people only own one gasoline powered car.

    [–]chemotherapy001 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    rich people can have as many cars as they want, but their CO2 footprint increases proportionally.

    [–]rangerrick9211 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Which house, researcher? He owns five.

    The Wikipedia citation for [122] is a Times' article about his Eco Resort he's building on an island in Belize. Solar isn't usually a preference on a private island, but a necessity. It varies by circumstances, but it can be a major engineering, construction and cost feat to bring utility infrastructure to a private island.

    Also, any citations to his electric planes and boats. Hard to image driving and floating his Pruis from Hollywood to his private island in Belize.

    [–]27Rench27 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    B-but he has a private jet!

    [–]TheMaxican [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Do you own a jump to conclusions mat? Leo has been apart of the cause and has a history of concern for global warming.

    [–]tau-lepton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I guess you have to hope that his impact into getting people aware of the issue will offset his own actions.

    Speaking of offsets, he buys quite a few carbon offsets. I am pretty sure that he is at least carbon neutral.

    [–]auzrealop [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He's done alot to go green, examples listed are just a few of the things he has done. Before assuming he's a hypocrite, maybe you can do a quick google search to give the guy a chance.

    [–]djabor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    i don't have a problem with some decadent polluter (ab)using his/her wealth to flip the world's opinion regarding the matter.

    In other words, i'd rather have 6 billion people use 1% less power than have 200 rich farts use less 90%.

    edit: really? so in this situation we're fine with 6 billion people not lowering their usage, as long as we can shame the 200 rich people to lower theirs?

    [–]Crash665 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I understand your point, but what should they do? Live in the wilderness with no electricity? As far as Leo, he has done and currently does support a lot of environmental protection programs. I don't think it's just lip service for him. Does he fly in jets? Yes. So do millions of people every day. One celebrity living without air conditioning and travelling by horseback is not going to change the world. But getting the chance to say something to 900million people might.

    [–]18LM5PI450 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Idiots like you always find something positive and somehow turn that into a negative thing. Go fuck yourself.

    [–]RoadSmash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    The changes that need to be made are not on a personal level. They're changes that need to be made as a nation, through the government. Leos personal quest to eliminate his "footprint" isn't going to change anything.