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Chemtrails / Contrails (self.conspiracy)

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I always wonder which is which. I live in the midwest, a couple hundred miles from anything considered "big". We have regional airports, and I see trails regularly. But late this afternoon, I noticed an unusual trail. It was two very distinct trails that seemed excessively far apart. And it dissipated extremely quickly. As I said, we have regional jets around here, small 60 seater jets that go to Chicago or St. Louis or Detroit. No regional jet would have made the trail that this thing was making. The trails were so far apart it seemed almost absurb. And, at the same time, there were four or five other jets in the same western vicinity making other smaller trails. But nothing in any other direction. Which I would have chalked up to Chicago traffic, or maybe St. Louis traffic, but this traffic was in the vicinity of western Illinois / eastern Iowa. There's absolutely nothing in that direction.

I know the government has admitted to experimenting, but I wonder how much they are actively concealing in terms of weather modification or other, nefarious causes.

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[–]dodgec24 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like the poster above says the atmospheric conditions have to be right to produce a contrail. I think it has to do with relative humidity and pressure in a certain area. Chem trails tend to last a lot longer and contrails disappear relatively quickly. Seems like contrails to me. Plus at that altitude jet stream winds can be 100-200 mph.

[–]Spurned_Liver -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been flying jets for 34 years. I've seen contrails often when the atmospheric conditions were right. It had nothing to do with our fuel, we converted jp-8 into energy which shows up as hot air mixed with very cold air. This resulted in mini clouds forming behind our jet engines. I flew in large formations of C-141s some had contrails and some where too low and the atmospheric conditions didn't allow for the conditions to make contrails, no contrails? No chem trails? We only had jet fuel on board.

[–]hoinurd[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't argue that sometimes a contrail is just a contrail. And we have a reserve base nearby, that generally flies C-130's a couple times a week. Low and slow, no contrail from those. But what I saw today was something high up, probably 25,000 feet or better, and the "contrails" were extremely far apart. Ironically, it didn't seem to be moving that fast, although at altitudes that high, looks can be a bit deceiving. So this thing was either high and huge, or they weren't contrails. I'm not sure which.

[–]bittermanscolon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see planes leaving persistent contrails (nice way to put it) all year round. I live in a spot where the winters are very cold and the summers are hot. I dont buy the fact the atmosphere just has to be right, etc. etc. I see them no matter what.

The catch is to have a laptop handy or access to your computer and when you see them, pop on to flightradar24.com and see what type of plane it is and what kind of details you can get with it. Most planes that leave actual contrails, are actual flights that show an airline details, flight number, where it is going, etc. The planes that fly over me and leave the lines that stay and spread out and turn the blue skies white. Their details are never present. They give you no information. You may have to watch them a few times to get an idea of what planes with what callsigns are what and at what altitude.

If you notice on some days after the sky has turned hazy, a sundog effect might occur, that will be a sure sign the particulates are the same as the ones named in geoengineering patents.

Listen to Patrick Roddie explain the rainbows and light refraction issues you may see after heavy trailing.

I have also never lived in the paradigm where "planes create mini clouds". Anyone can come online and claim to be a pilot and make such claims.

[–]ibaOne -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've read one of the newest things is chemtrails that dissipate quickly. Since a lot of folks are concerned about chemtrails now, I guess TPTB decided if they make the chemtrails seem like a non-issue - if we don't see them anymore - then we'll all forget about them.

[–]daddie_o -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here is a guy who believes in chemtrails, but argues that we shouldn't waste our time trying to distinguish between them, because we can't. He goes into some interesting analysis based on patents and NASA documents regarding how chemtrails are made. And then he kind of goes off the deep end, in a good way depending on your proclivities.

And here is a guy who thinks chemtrails are just a sneaky way to disburse industrial waste products.