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[–]hapakal 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just THANK YOU! for all of your amazing work. You are one of my heroes

I used to think the problem with 911 Truth was that people hadn't seen the evidence. Now Ive realized the problem is that people do not want to know the truth because it is so disturbing. I have a good friend who lost two friends that day. I could not even get him to sign ae911truth's public petition. We really are herd animals. When the truth is this disturbing,, I guess ignorance really is bliss, -as someone said in reply to one of my comments.

The silence of people like Glenn Greenwald, Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky etc has been another real shocker. It just shows the degree to which the vast majority of our media and academia is a managed affair. Thanks again!

[–]smokinbluebear 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have any 9/11 researchers ever seen the Non Disclosure Agreement which Kenneth Feinberg & The Victims Compensation Fund most likely forced those who signed up to sign?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I haven't seen it. But it is a good question.

[–]smokinbluebear 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's important because the overall effect of the VCF was to stop any independent investigations from taking place. The VCF was passed by Congress 10 days after 9/11: http://cryptome.org/doj122101.txt

[–]smokinbluebear 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kenneth Feinberg Comments on 9/11 & BP Victims Funds:

"If Congress had waited two more weeks--it wouldn't have created this type of (9/11) fund."

8 Minutes: http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4549035/kenneth-feinberg-comments-911-bp-victims-funds


Kenneth Feinberg Part 2: 9/11 and the Tort System (2 minutes)

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4549042/kenneth-feinberg-part-2

[–]daddie_o 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

You are a true hero. Have you ever received threats or felt threatened to stop your research?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

When I was first fired by UL, I received a threatening letter from what seemed to be the IRS. When I called the IRS, they said they they had never written to me and had no idea about it.

[–]PhrygianMode 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didn't you also have your mail (specifically WTC dust samples) tampered with?

[–]daddie_o -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you ever afraid something might happen to you...?

[–]smokinbluebear 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks so much for joining us here--I have your book and keep track of your articles...You are definitely one of my favorite researchers/authors...

I wish there was more info on the exact improvements made when WTC 7 was upgraded to accommodate Salomon Brothers (from wikipedia):

  • ...more than 350 tons (U.S.) of steel were added to construct three double-height trading floors. Nine diesel generators were installed on the 5th floor as part of a backup power station. "Essentially, Salomon is constructing a building within a building – and it's an occupied building, which complicates the situation", said a district manager of Silverstein Properties. The unusual task was possible, said Larry Silverstein, because it was designed to allow for "entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors."[34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

It just seems like the floors with the additions would have behaved much differently than the other floors during a "natural" collapse--the upgraded floors were "A CAGE WITHIN A CAGE."

The only other info is from a New York Times article...Any comments?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

An interesting point. Since the building collapsed so quickly, I'm not sure that I could tell if it was behaving differently than if these renovations had not been done. Maybe David Chandler could speak to it (maybe the mods can get him as an AMA guest).

[–]SovereignMan 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe David Chandler could speak to it (maybe the mods can get him as an AMA guest).

We tried a while back but one of the trolls that frequent our sub got wind of it and sabotaged it by emailing David telling him some of the mods here were shills trying to keep the truth of 9/11 from coming out. I contacted him after that and he diplomatically stated that he thought his time could be better spent doing other things.

[–]smokinbluebear 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just don't see how those floors could have behaved the same in a "NATURAL" collapse...

We'd certainly welcome a David Chandler AMA!!!

[–]Orangutan 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like this passage from your latest article:

"It also helps to interview people who have detailed knowledge about the events. Most of the people who were present at the time of the attacks and during the official investigations are still alive and some of them will answer questions."

Is there anyone in particular you'd like to see interviewed that hasn't been yet, or who you think could be pushed further with pointed questions? I'm thinking the teacher or staff at the Sarasota Booker Elementary school, the author of The Pet Goat, The firefighter who famously stood next to Bush, and Max Cleland, Steven Hatfill, and Maret Tsarnaev to name a few. Hopefully more intrepid journalists like Luke Rudkowski find a way to get these guys on the record if they have anything they'd like to say contrary to the official version of events.

Thanks so much for your incomparable work!!

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great ideas. Speaking of the school, I'd like to ask Ari Fleischer about that sign he was said to be holding up: "DON"T SAY ANYTHING YET."

[–]ShellOilNigeria 5ポイント6ポイント  (55子コメント)

Kevin,

I bought your book a few years ago after another reddit user recommended that I do so. http://imgur.com/PJejUbW

I have read it, along with several other 9/11 books, watched all of the major 9/11 documentaries, and frequently research using the timelines available at History Commons.

That said, I still learn about new information every day.

Question

Which resources (print, video, online) would you recommend to others for research into the people and events of 9/11?

Of particular interest to me is William Rodriguez's testimony about hearing explosions before the first plane hit https://youtu.be/eS8URT9anUE?t=64 and after being interviewed for it, his testimony does not appear in the 9/11 commission report. What do you think about Rodriguez's testimony and have you ever had a chance to speak with him about his experience?


Towards the end of your book you conclude that:

"Considering 9/11 as a product of a deeper, non-national (or trans-national) state brings to mind the Safari Club, which proceeded and drove organizations like BCCI." p.313

"It would therefore not be surprising that a secretive group of deep state operatives embedded within the U.S. government might have taken action to secure the nations interests for the long term." p.315

Is this not exactly what people deep inside the intelligence apparatus would need to do in order to ensure American superiority in Eurasian-politics and the Great Game?

Given this viewpoint, it seems that you can see how they could justify 9/11 as being for the greater good "The people who committed the crimes of 9/11 probably thought that they were doing the right thing." p.314

Question

Do you think that the U.S., Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Pakistan formed their own version of a trans-national "Safari Club" in order to attack the United States? If so, why do you believe that they would do this? What would be the benefit to each country doing so?


A few weeks ago, I made a post here on /r/conspiracy that focused on the concrete evidence of Saudi Arabian involvement with 9/11. (https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/46glp9/draft_of_saudi_involvement_with_911/)

You have said that the Saudi's are definitely partially responsible along with Pakistan, the UAE, and the U.S.

Question

I would like to know, since many people here on reddit, wrongly focus on Israel, what is your opinion on Israel and 9/11? I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming. I do not believe that they actually played a significant role in the attacks. Do you agree with this? If no, why?


Final Questions

  1. What in your mind, what is one of the biggest occurrences with regards to the official story that does not match up in your opinion?

  2. What has Saudi Arabia directly gained from their involvement in 9/11? (Obviously knocking Iraq out of their sphere of influence but what other justification could they have had for wanting to go forward with it?)

  3. Why do you think that the Bush Administration (CIA,FBI,etc) made it so difficult for the 9/11 commission to investigate? Simply to cover up for their incompetence, or to cover up their involvement? The reason I ask is because Sandy Berger was obviously caught stealing documents from the National Archives to cover up intelligence that Clinton knew about supposed attacks. (Also Clinton not assassinating Bin Laden while on his hunting trip in the UAE). So it seems to me that it is not strictly a Bush Administration issue. http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a0405bergersentence

  4. What do you think the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 commission report contain?


Thank you for your time and I appreciate your research!

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Do you think that the U.S., Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Pakistan formed their own version of a trans-national "Safari Club" in order to attack the United States? If so, why do you believe that they would do this? What would be the benefit to each country doing so?"

The U.S. and Saudi Arabia were part of the original Safari Club. The UAE owned BCCI, which was a network started in Pakistan and used by the CIA to conduct off the books operations. I believe that the rulers of these countries cooperated to continue conducting such operations for the benefit of their financial backers for profit and power. Not just them, of course.

[–]WolfgangJones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The UAE owned BCCI, which was a network started in Pakistan and used by the CIA to conduct off the books operations.

Pakistan>>>off-the-books operations outpost of choice for espionage enthusiasts (that is to say, friends of Allen Dulles and the CIA): "JFK's Forgotten CIA Crisis" (Daily Beast>Bruce Riedel>Brookings Institution).

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

"I would like to know, since many people here on reddit, wrongly focus on Israel, what is your opinion on Israel and 9/11? I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming. I do not believe that they actually played a significant role in the attacks. Do you agree with this? If no, why?"

I’ve written about Israel when I’ve found it worth mentioning, both in my articles and in my book. But unlike others, my goal is not to prove that a specific ethnic group or nation was solely responsible. It’s a bad idea to begin with your conclusions in any case.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It’s a bad idea to begin with your conclusions in any case.

Hear hear!

[–]SilentSpace 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Neocons planned and executed the attacks of 9/11 with the help of a subgroup within the Pentagon, MI6, Mossad and the Saudi monarchy.

The level of willful ignorance and shameless apathy is mind-boggling.

Moreover, there is so much misinformation and disinformation put out by the corporate media and on the internet.

i've done a lot of the time-consuming work of vetting the evidence for you already.

All you have to do is Look, Listen and Learn.

Let us speak to the facts and allow the facts to speak for themselves.

If you have evidence to the contrary, then bring it forward for all to see so that we can learn together.

Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Neocons-did-911/239525399425678

[–]grandmacaesar -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Speaking for myself, I didn't "begin with conclusions".

My studies led me to Urban Moving Systems, Dominick Suter, Five Dancing Israelis, and the b thing.

It appears that these people are directly involved with the take-down of the twin towers, and possibly WTC7 as well.

Should we just turn a blind eye to certain facts because it's taboo to mention Israel?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Speaking of blind eyes, one interesting link between Israel and 9/11 that I’ve seen came from someone who was a central character in one of the most divisive arguments in the truth movement. That’s Shelton Lankford, who for the 12 years before 9/11 was the director of communications at Telos Corporation, where he worked for leading neocons like Fred Ikle and Stephen Bryen. Ikle was the founder of the U.S. PSYOPS program and Bryen ran JINSA, the Israeli interface with the Pentagon.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Interesting. There's a good chance that the whole "Israel dun it" concept is carefully calculated chaff to distract and confound by exploiting anti-Semitism and the world's general disdain for Israeli apartheid.

[–]daddie_o 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep. Or to make it easy to discredit 9/11 truthers with the anti-semitic epithet.

[–]hapakal -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments. - Friedrich Nietzsche

[–]magnora7 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Zionists always use the Jewish people as a shield to hide behind

[–]horse-lover-phat -4ポイント-3ポイント  (43子コメント)

Quote:

"I would like to know, since many people here on reddit, wrongly focus on Israel, what is your opinion on Israel and 9/11? I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming. I do not believe that they actually played a significant role in the attacks. Do you agree with this? If no, why?"

I'm clearly not Kevin R Ryan, but I had to take you to task over your naive comment.

Wrongly focus on Israel...?

Israel were a massive part of 9/11...it is at this point that I know you're a shill, stupid or both. I've been researching this area for more than 15 years. Yes, since the day it happened...Israel's fingerprints are all over this operation.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

it is at this point that I know you're a shill, stupid or both.

Only warning for rule 10.

[–]horse-lover-phat -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

This usually means (warnings), that I've done something right. :)

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or that you were simply being uncivil and disrespectful.

[–]horse-lover-phat -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah...it's definitely the former.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I can tell you that you're objectively wrong about that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

we need to work together and not talk about israel. /s

yeah we see what's going on here.

[–]NoelTrotsky 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I never said 'not talk about israel' by the way. I said talk about what you find interesting in a respectful way so everyone can learn.

Nice try to slant my comment.

[–]flyyyyyyyyy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

dude it's the whole point of this post

[–]NoelTrotsky 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't think you need to call someone a 'shill, stupid or both' because they focus in a different way than others. We really need to work together on many little aspects and bring all the information to light. Less fighting, more hearing each other out.

[–]ShellOilNigeria -5ポイント-4ポイント  (26子コメント)

If all you can point to are Urban Moving Systems, the art student scenario, Amdocs, and dual citizenship, then no their fingerprints are not in fact, all over it.

[–]horse-lover-phat 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

All I can point to? WTF is that supposed to mean? You know nothing of me and my extensive work. The ability to corral the media (in this giant fix) is entirely lost on you and you seemingly have no appreciation of this. Who owns and controls your mass media systems...answers on a postcard please?

[–]ShellOilNigeria 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Then please, share some of your extensive work implicating israel.

I asked people in my Saudi thread (linked above) to do exactly that and had 1 taker who simply circled around the instances I already mentioned and dual citizenship which means nothing.

There are a handful of situations with Israel, none of which even come close to the amount of evidence pointing towards the Saudis.

I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming.

[–]horse-lover-phat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry if I upset you or made you feel bad. Yes, I'm apologising.

[–]horse-lover-phat -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'd be wasting my time, you've made your position clear. What is the point of me preaching to a closed mindset? What about the issue of 'top to bottom' media ownership and the ethnic make-up of those that rule it like a fiefdom?

I can't deal with anyone who is yet to understand the implications of this Zionist media monopoly...full spectrum dominance of both 'news' and 'entertainment'...for one of the biggest ever conflicts of interest, known to mankind!

[–]ShellOilNigeria 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm always open to learning more and my mind stays open.

That's why I would like you to share.

Okay, maybe Jewish people own all the media companies? Do you have a source on that? What does that have to do with September the 11th 2001?

[–]horse-lover-phat -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Only 'EVERYTHING'...the ability to back-up the blatant false flag, is an even more complicated thing, than carrying out the actual hit. The unwashed masses must be corralled and steered to a predefined narrative...no questioning of data is tolerated, it is spewed out as undeniable fact!

Did you not notice that the media had their 'bad guy stooge' waiting in the wings...ready to be rolled out (within an hour of the event) on the morning of 9/11?

Here's what Israel does via its propaganda arm aka Hollywood, they insert 'predictive programming' elements within the body of their sponsored film and TV releases. They did it for decades and I have most of it collated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vwjFhF4dA

9/11 encapsulated. The actor who mentions 'the fix' is a British actor called Patrick Malahide. Samuel L Jackson is the actor, that I can relate to aspects of 9/11, literally more than any other actor. A Time To Kill, Die Hard 3 and The Long Kiss Goodnight all contain ciphers/subliminal programming relating to 9/11.

Just one example of many, they've been brainwashing entire societies and populations with these ongoing methods! This is just the tip of a huge iceberg.

[–]ShellOilNigeria 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

You didn't show me any evidence related to September 11th.

[–]horse-lover-phat -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

OK...bye, enjoy your servitude and closed mindset. I was correct about you, with my first response.

[–]Quantumhead 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

If all you can point to are Urban Moving Systems, the art student scenario, Amdocs, and dual citizenship, then no their fingerprints are not in fact, all over it.

That's so stupid. There are witnesses who saw these guys literally dancing in celebration when the towers were hit. A bomb sniffer dog flagged them and their van for explosives residue. Urban Moving Systems was, according to the FBI, a front for an intelligence operation and the owner quite literally fled the country. In fact, Urban Moving Systems sent people to the "vicinity of the Flight 93 crash site" on the morning of 9/11, and before Flight 93 had actually crashed. Are you saying that was just a coincidence?

It seems to me that you are in some type of radical denial about who was responsible for this attack.

[–]ShellOilNigeria -1ポイント0ポイント  (14子コメント)

I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming.

[–]Quantumhead -1ポイント0ポイント  (13子コメント)

I personally believe that they were running counter-intelligence against known Saudi terrorists and simply knew an attack was coming.

Doesn't explain even the few facts I have just pointed out to you.

[–]ShellOilNigeria 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

You didn't provide sources for anything.

[–]Quantumhead -4ポイント-3ポイント  (11子コメント)

Cool. How is Israel this time of year?

[–]ShellOilNigeria 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't know. I'm in Vegas for work.

[–]Quantumhead -4ポイント-3ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't know. I'm in Vegas for work.

How is the urban moving business?

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hello Mr.Ryan!

I'm really glad that you're here.

I can't say how much I've enjoyed the podcasts you did with The Mind Renewed.

Those have been great resources to link people to and got my husband questioning 9/11.

My questions....

1- Did anyone else at UL share your suspicions/questions about the WTC steel and the "investigation" into 9/11?

2- Do you think we will ever see a true investigation or wider acceptance that the 9/11 Commission was total BS, in our lifetime?

I also want to thank you for your work and continuing to speak out. Best wishes to you.

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. Yes, but nobody else wanted to lose their job.

  2. Yes, I think that, eventually, the fact that the 9/11 Commission Report was largely a diversion will be widely recognized. We've got some painful lessons to go through first it seems.

[–]Akareyon 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Thank you for all your diligent work investigating and exposing the cover-up and the suspects behind the crimes of 9/11. Great to have you with us, Mr. Ryan!


My first question concerns an aspect of 9/11 that, although iconic for the day, received little to no attention both from FEMA & NIST and independent investigators: the "dramatic" (FEMA) South Tower fireball(s).

One popular criticism of A&E we often encounter is that more chemists have signed the petition than civil engineers and architects have.

Deflagrations and BLEVEs are well-studied phenomena in the context of storage unit, chemical plant and transportation safety, hazard and risk assessment.[1], [2]

Lihou/Maund, Fay/Lewis, Hasegawa/Soto, Moorhouse/Pritchard, Hardee/Lee, Dorofeev et al, and many others have empirically correlated fireball diameter, duration and rise height with initial fuel mass with good predictiveness[3] (mostly in the form D = k × m n , where n mostly ~1/3 and k depending on the fuel).

Instead, Baum/Rehm's "Simple Model", investigating only the first 2.5 seconds, proposes a completely different model (correlating expansion velocity, which all other researchers explicitly treat as constant, with the fuel mass) to conclude that 1500kg is a reasonable lower bound estimate for the amount of kerosene needed for the fireball (Prof. Quintiere raises similar concerns about the novel approach).[4] FEMA estimates 3000-10000 kg, NIST 4500 kg.

To my knowledge, only Karl Moor gives a "truther" estimate (from the diameter of the burnt-out soot cloud) and arrives at ~13800 kg, and indeed, a lower bound estimate of ~15000 kg seems to be more realistic, if a fireball diameter of ~130 m is assumed and Lihou/Maunds 6.2m0.32 approximation used. That raises the suspicion NIST deliberately tried to obscure the true nature of the fireball, especially since their simulations indicated that 17% of the jet fuel would have landed outside the building from residual momentum and mechanical deflection alone.[5]

Do you think independent analysis of the fireball could help answer the question whether UA175 (hijacked by, let's say, "MKULTRAed" suicide patsys) or a drone hit WTC2?


My second question is more speculative in nature, but shorter: overall, do you get the impression that 9/11 went according to plan, or that it was botched (or even sabotaged by dissenters/rivals from within the circles of power) and what we saw was more a "save"/"Plan B"/"9/11 light edition" of what should have been even more "awe-inspiring", devious and obscure, and less suspicious / self-contradictory / "easily" proven a stage magic trick?

I ask because I often find myself wondering how the masterminds could be so sure they would be able to sell Bazants Laws of Motion and Nistonian physics - if they simply didn't care, or if the psychology of "mass hypnosis induction by shock" is truly that well-tested and true.[6]


A third question: since 9/11 affected not only the U.S. - triggering NATOs first (and, so far, only) casus foederis (Art. 5)[7], thus compromising all allies as well - shouldn't the adjective "international" not be, by standard, an indispensable part of the call for a new, independent investigation of 9/11?[8]


[1]: Lees' Loss Prevention in the Process Industries: Hazard Identification, Assessment and Control, pub.: Sam Mannan

[2]: Guidelines for Evaluating the Characteristics of Vapor Cloud Explosions, Flash Fires, and BLEVEs, Center for Chemical Process for Safety, American Institute of Chemical Engineers

[3]: Fireballs from deflagration and detonation of heterogeneuous fuel-rich clouds, Dorofeev et al., 1995

[4]: A simple model of the World Trade Center fireball dynamics, Baum, H.R., Rehm, R.G., 2005

[5]: NIST NCSTAR 1-2B, p. lxxxiv

[6]: The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein

[7]: Collective defence - Article 5, nato.int

[8]: 9/11 As False Flag: Why International Law Must Dare to Care, Amy Baker Benjamin

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

"do you get the impression that 9/11 went according to plan, or that it was botched"

I think that some of it did not go according to plan, including WTC 7.

[–]Akareyon 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Follow-up:

I think that some of it did not go according to plan, including WTC 7.

...Flight 93?

Or more of the sort that its demolition was supposed to be hidden in the WTC 1&2 dust clouds?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, Flight 93 as well. The passengers actually might have tried to take over the remotely hijacked plane and then were shot down for their trouble. We need more detailed analysis of the UAL 93 event with regard to that possibility.

I think WTC 7 was supposed to come down earlier than it did, yes.

[–]PhrygianMode 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bazants Laws of Motion and Nistonian physics

I like you :)

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Nistonian physics"

Ha! Absolutely great!

[–]smokinbluebear 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Have you ever watched the raw video of the 5 minute press conference which GW Bush held after meeting with members of the 9/11 Commission? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bnuvtRo8b0

5 minutes--4 questions!!!

C-Span actually removed this video from their huge archive (Jon Gold saved it and put it up on youtube)...Part of the press conference was shown in the 9/11 Press For Truth documentary--you can actually see GW Bush smile when answering a question (at the 23min 45sec mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2oZto6WPkc

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but it's worth another look.

Reminds me of this article I wrote late last year. http://digwithin.net/2015/10/04/spy-the-911-lie/

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for this!

Gold has a great interview with Bob Mcllvaine. If you can listen to that man talk about his son and breakdown and still think we shouldn't be questioning 9/11....as my Gram used to say...bless your heart.

[–]smokinbluebear 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I saw a 20 minute video clip of Bob McIlvane--wish more people would listen to his message...(I'll try to find it and post later)

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree.

Here is the interview I mentioned.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f_sDu6rDp7g

And I know many other family members are asking questions.

However, Bob's son is the only 9/11 victim to have an autopsy done.

[–]sep11insidejob 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

What is the strongest evidence that 9/11 was a false flag?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

The destruction of the WTC buildings, through the path of what should have been the most resistance, is the strongest evidence in my opinion.

[–]NoelTrotsky 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The central support beams of WTC 1 and 2 really should have been standing after that 'pancake' collapse. They were that strong.

[–]tyreLL_minus_mac 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

What do you mean "path of most resistance"? As in, difficult to penetrate airspace?

[–]PhrygianMode 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The top portions of the buildings completely crashing through the lower, undamaged portions of the buildings rather than simply colliding/arresting/sliding off.

[–]Quantumhead 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

What do you mean "path of most resistance"? As in, difficult to penetrate airspace?

He means that when you chop at a tree, it falls through the air to get to the ground, not through the rest of the tree.

[–]tyreLL_minus_mac 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ok of the buildings themselves. Thanks for clarifying!

[–]HangOn2UrEgo 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

One of the go-to arguments by the debunkers on internationalskeptics.com is that any explosive demolition devices capable of removing the supporting structure of the three towers would be extremely loud, like the explosive charges in commercial implosions. What is your responce?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Less loud when using thermite.

Other than that, there were sounds of explosions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM

[–]BeyondWikipedia 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The WTC steel doesn't have the characteristics of the type of thermite cutter charge that Johnathan Cole made. However, many have suggested that high explosives could be used (without the extreme loudness) if they were used to attack the weld points, bolts, or joints of the steel beams.

[–]spays_marine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the thermitic material that was found in the dust also (supposedly) does not have the characteristics of the thermite Johnathan Cole used.

[–]IncitingAndInviting 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

  1. Besides Mark Basile's long-postponed lab studies of the red/gray chips, are there any other plans to examine the WTC dust for interesting particles and residues?

  2. Why do you think the South Tower has less numerous, and apparently smaller "squibs" than the ones shooting out of the the North Tower?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

  1. Yes, Niels Harrit and I have been planning to produce a paper on the carbon nanotubes. We haven't completed that work however. And we're still waiting for any legitimate response to the work already done.

  2. Interesting question. Can you quantify/clarify the finding?

[–]BeyondWikipedia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The squibs from the South Tower coming from below the "crush zone" just seem to be smaller, and the are fewer of them compared to the North Tower. A big database of organized collapse footage is here: http://www.911conspiracy.tv

[–]hapakal 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Regarding the carbon nanotubes I read somewhere that they can form naturally. Is there some way to distinguish between what has been found in the lungs of first-responders and in the dust vs the kind that form naturally?

When I sent that study to people I got responses that these were naturally forming structures that could be found in your kitchen and you do see articles like this one

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The CNTs were an unusual finding by the medical researchers. They speculated that the high temperatures and metal catalysts that are required came from the fires at the WTC. While I agree, I have a slightly different view of why CNTs and other unusual species were present. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/02/04/energetic-materials-as-a-potential-cause-of-the-911-first-responder-illnesses/

[–]smokinbluebear 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

What I think people often overlook is the Rockefeller-CIA ties to WTC being built--the Rockefellers and the CIA have a partnership that began with the Dulles brothers and their Sullivan & Cromwell ties. John Foster Dulles became a partner of S&C, Allen Dulles worked there as well; together they overthrew countries for the corporate clients which S&C represented. JF Dulles was older than Allen--but they both had a role during WWI: JF Dulles participated in the financial swindles which helped "rebuild" Germany's industrial sectors while Allen Dulles just got his feet wet in Europe as a spy.

By the 20's, John Foster Dulles knew Henry Luce (Time)--he passed this important link to Allen. JF would be the bureaucrat who knew men like Hjalmar Scacht--they both knew how to cakewalk around banking regulations. Allen Dulles was a bit uncomfortable in the legal world--but still managed to pull off a few swindles in Latin America. The important part was AD understood the basics; he could sweet talk the the victim into the ballpark--but it was JF who would write the contract.

Oddly enough, during WWII, it was JF who was sidelined and Allen who found his calling as a spy in Switzerland working for the OSS. Before Allen went to Europe though--he began his OSS days at Rockefeller Center (ahem!) where the OSS had an office. Allen worked there interviewing people coming back from Europe. Both brothers were attached to republicans; so they both suffered a bit and waited out until Eisenhower got in office ('53). JF Dulles was Ike's foreign policy adviser during his campaign and was named Sec. of State after Ike got in office; Allen was named CIA Director.

So how does this connect to the World Trade Center? I found out when I read Jim Garrison's book On the Trail of the Assassins--page 100:

According to these articles, the CIA--which apparently had been conducting its own foreign policy for some time--had begun a project in Italy as far back as the early 1960's. The organization, named the Centro Mondiale Commerciale (the World Trade Center), had initially been formed in Montreal, then moved to Rome in 1961. Among the members of its board of directors, we learned, was one Clay Shaw from New Orleans.

It was in the 60's that the WTC was planned--they had to use the power of eminent domain to get the land (which takes time)--but with Nelson Rockefeller in office as Governor of NY and the other Rockefellers in NYC pulling strings--it worked. I'm sure the CIA ties didn't hurt, either.

After the towers were built in the 70's, the CIA began to have serious problems: the Church Committee, the Schweiker Committee, the House Sub-Committee on Assassinations...GHW Bush was named Director of the CIA under Ford in '76.

When Carter came into office--there were mass firings at the Agency and Admiral Stansfield Turner was named Director. The CIA was in trouble--so it did what intelligence agencies do best: parts of it privatized and went underground. This is when the Safari Club began...

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some good history - thanks. I'm always interested to hear of links between the JFK assassination and later deep state events in the U.S. including 9/11.

[–]smokinbluebear 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much of this came from THE BROTHERS by Stephen Kinzer...

You can read free pdf files at r/TSBD ;)

[–]smokinbluebear 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you know of any new documentaries or books coming out on 9/11?

Any conferences?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

We just had a conference in St. Petersburg earlier this month. Someone with time needs to organize something for the 15th anniversary. As for new books, I hear of them but it is not my place to announce other people's books. And although its not 9/11, Dylan Avery's new film Black & Blue should be out sometime soon.

[–]FatwaBurgers 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

  • Are there any 9/11 mysteries that you find remain puzzling to you without obvious operational explanations? Was there design purpose to Whitehorse, Yukon on 9/11, for example?

  • Are there any 9/11 mysteries that you feel are most overlooked by researchers? Why are the Bukhari brothers so unknown?

  • Peter Dale Scott has written much about the parallels between the JFK Assassination & 9/11. One of the non-parallels is that with JFK, both Russia (and apparently, now according to David Talbot, Charles DeGaulle) called out right-wing forces in the security services as responsible at the time. Conversely, any idea why Putin has taken such a quiet and passive approach to 9/11? Did Western security services (or the 9/11 faction(s) within them) soil his hands in advance, much like OK City seems to have been an operation to soil & silence Bill Clinton in advance of 9/11?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

You have cited some good ones. Investigation of the planes that were said to be hijacked and later said to be not hijacked (e.g. Korean Air 85, Delta 1989) are mysteries that still need solving. The people first listed as hijackers and then removed is another. I think there are many more questions that need answering which is why I'm calling for more independent investigation. For example, What did Stratesec do for United Airlines? What was going on at the National Reconnaissance Office that might have made evacuating it that morning useful to the attacks? What can cause the rare illnesses of the first responders?

[–]EitherOrMindset 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What was going on at the National Reconnaissance Office that might have made evacuating it that morning useful to the attacks?

Never thought of that - I had always thought it was proximity in both time & geography to the Pentagon attack? But that wouldn't seem to be an issue with remotely guided Flight 77?

What do you recommend as a good strategy to combat the offerings of gigantic chunks of truth or insight mixed with disinfo, such as Rebekah Roth & Richard Grove, both of whom advocate "mini-nukes" yet have seemingly offered new avenues of insight & inquiry?

[–]EitherOrMindset 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Bukharis weren't "brothers" although we were told they were

;)

[–]NoelTrotsky 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just wanted to sincerely thank you for speaking out about 9/11 and suffering so much to help improve this world.

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks.

[–]smokinbluebear 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

In addition to researcher and author--I definitely consider you a whistle blower, too.

Thanks for speaking out and helping to lead the fight for Truth.

[–]smokinbluebear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you ever written about the Russian bonds (or financial instruments) which were supposedly coming due on/about 9/11?

Any good recommendations for articles/videos on this? I've seen it mentioned--but never come across any in-depth articles.

[–]12-23-1913 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're a legit ally in the fight for 9/11 truth.

Question:

  • Is there a way that we could conduct another dust sampling test? Where/how can people get their hands on some samples

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

We did it by contacting people in the Manhattan area and getting them to ask around. I'm pretty sure that there are people who have jars of the stuff sitting around.

[–]SanitationIsStatism 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Besides Graeme MacQueen, are there any other researchers in this field of "organized crime research" that you feel are overlooked?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Some of the best researchers on 9/11 and similar crimes that I've seen include the early 9/11 leaders: Michel Chossudovsky, Daniel Hopsicker, Paul Thompson, and Michael Ruppert. Now we also have new ones like Matthew Everett (Shoestring), Aidan Monaghan, and a few others.

[–]FatwaBurgers 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Opinion on Kevin Fenton?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's a good one too.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Opinions on the circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Hastings?

[–]Orangutan 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

What are some factors that keep you optimistic about 9/11 Truth reaching a mainstream tipping point or critical mass? Are there certain or specific aspects that make you more pessimistic about ever reaching justice for the crimes of these events and the perpetrators that have had such an effect on our society?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

As time passes, people are more open to listening to the evidence. At the same time, they are less interested because it was in farther the past. I think that there is a possibility of a breakthrough via research, whistleblowers, or revelations about more current terrorist acts. Until then, if we focus, we can help build the case.

[–]themeanbeaver 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am glad you're optimistic and I think 911 truth has its own intrinsic value even if it becomes a fringe thing only cited by researchers and freethinkers. Do you think they will ever release evidence at the Pentagon that we know they are withholding, I mean all those security camera footages?

[–]777dot 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

So do you believe the planes that hit were remotely operated?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, I do.

[–]Non-equilibrium 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because of the speed at which they were flown at low altitudes. For example, Flight 77 was said to hit the first floor of the Pentagon at over 500 mph. And the way they were flown as if by guidance technology. I've written about it here. http://digwithin.net/2012/06/15/from-renovation-to-revolution-was-the-pentagon-attacked-from-within/

[–]FatwaBurgers 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

See Operation Northwoods for an example of such a plan using remote controlled aircraft. 9/11 is a direct descendant of Operation Northwoods in many ways beyond the obvious.

[–]Orangutan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Operation Aphrodite 1940's Remote Control Airplane as Bomb

Operation Aphrodite' was the World War II code name of a secret USAAF program that began in 1944. Pilotless aircraft packed with explosives were remotely controlled into their targets.

Just a small piece of evidence that the technology for remote controlled flying has been around for decades.

[–]777dot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://youtu.be/5XPEz0d1rWI explains it well, would like to know your opinion on this info as well. (short video 6 mins)

[–]smokinbluebear 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does this bother you?


Kenneth R. Feinberg was elected Chairman of the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation’s Board of Directors in November 2009.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/About-Us/JFK-Library-Foundation/Board-of-Directors/Kenneth-Feinberg.aspx


Philip Zelikow General Editor, Presidential Recording Series (Miller Center)

Book Discussion on The Presidential Recordings: The editors talked about The Presidential Recordings: John F. Kennedy, Volumes 1-3, The Great Crises, published by W.W. Norton. More than a dozen scholars, led by the editorial team, transcribed and edited thousands of hours of White House meetings secretly taped by Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon. The general editors and director of the project discussed the history of these tapes, their significance, the process of deciphering and transcribing them and the recent publication of the first three volumes of the Kennedy tapes.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?166843-1/book-discussion-presidential-recordings


I mean, what are the chances that these two 9/11 Villains are inside these institutions "clarifying" the record?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't bother me exactly, but it's interesting. It bothers me more that Zelikow's buddy Ashton Carter is running the Pentagon these days.

[–]NoelTrotsky 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you settled with UL on the wrongful dismissal? Have you been able to move forward from this ugly and unjust action?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

My lawsuit against them was thrown out. My purpose was not to settle with them, but to gain discovery of evidence. The judge didn't seem to want to go that way.

[–]12-23-1913 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

www.WTC7Evaluation.org

This $200,000 model at UAF is an amazing step. What do you know about it behind the scenes? I can't wait for its completion.

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was involved only superficially at the beginning. I don't know much about it. Finite Element Analysis is a tedious process but I suppose it might help convince a few more academics.

[–]12-23-1913 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will expose the NIST model as fraudulent, even more so.

[–]WTCMolybdenum4753 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hi Kevin.

Who's most likely to spill the beans?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe we can get a bean or two here and a bean or two there.

A plan to interview certain players would help.

[–]EitherOrMindset 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about ONI victims' families? They seemed to be targeted. They would seem to be in a much more angry, knowledgeable, and higher security clearance position to make some chessboard moves.

Do you find it instructive that victims' families in the U.S. were largely bought-off in obverse to the Mothers of the Disappeared who played a major role in eroding support for the military coup generals in Argentina/Chile? Don't the victims' families have the largest role to play, in many ways, in such historical events?

[–]WWE_Ghost 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

How much of the 9/11 report do you agree with if by %? Thermite vs controlled demolition... Was it really planes that hit the towers or graphics and missiles from Woolworth building?

Why did shows like lone gunmen (x-file soon off, Simpsons and even towering inferno always target wtc)

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Four percent by weight, 3 percent by volume.

Yes, planes hit the buildings.

The idea of terrorism against the WTC was a recurrent theme in popular culture, partly because the WTC was the target of terrorism in 1993. I'm not sure if there was more to it than that.

[–]horse-lover-phat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well there's always the story of the FBI giving their 'stooge' detonators for the '93 attack. How come you don't know about that?

Found this post from 2004 and just by simply doing an ad-hoc search...I've known about this '93 aspect for years.

Quote:

Okay, for quick confirmation about the US supplying the bomb that blew up in the WTC in 1993 go to the New York times, get into thier archives and look for Oct.28,1993 and again on Oct.31, 1993 or You can go to the Chicago Tribune Dec 15 1993. Those front page articles all cover this.

What happenned was the FBI hired a 43 year old retired Egyptian military officer named Ahmad Salem to recruit a group to destroy the WTC. They paid him 1 Million dollars for the job. They also supplied the bomb material and detonators. At one point Salem got suspicous and asked the FBI why they were giving him a real bomb if it was to be just a sting operation. They told him not to worry and to let the operation go forward. At that point he got suspicous and began recording all conversations with them. He ended up secretly recording the head of the FBI in New York ordering him to let the bombing happen.

Transcripts of some of those recordings are in the Times and the Tribune. When You get right down to it, it was the Federal Govt. that wanted those buildings destroyed cause it was thier idea, thier bomb and thier money that paid for the whole dammed thing. They even recruited the head guy to do the job. Now this has all been in the papers and I have to ask, where is the outrage of the people?

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Part of the plot of the film:

Disgusted at the world, Morlar has caused two recent disasters: an airliner crash into a London office tower...

This 1978 film was produced by the brilliant movie producer Arnon Milchan (who incidentally revealed recently that he is/was an Israeli intelligence asset). He went on to produce Brazil (1985), a film about false-flag terrorism committed by an authoritarian first-world government in order to justify enacting police-state surveillence conditions, and Milchan also produced Fight Club (1999) where he was personally responsible for changing the ending of the book to include the demolition of skyscrapers housing financial companies.

Thought these coincidences(?) were semi-relevant here.

[–]BeyondWikipedia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Missiles from the Woolworth building is the most hilarious bit of disinfo I've ever seen regarding 9/11.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_41.htm

[–]smokinbluebear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why can't we get a series of 9/11 debates???

[–]HITLERS_SEX_PARTY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we just condense this to the simplest terms?

--Who did the attack?

--were bombs used in addition to planes?

--why?

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What are your thoughts on the term "9/11 Truther"? Do you feel that it's become a pejorative to the average American? What do you think about the term "9/11 Faither" to describe those who refuse to acknowledge inconsistencies in the Bush/Cheney conspiracy theory?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The use of "truther" started a few years after I got involved. I think it was used by the media to belittle anyone seeking the truth. Kind of like "truth nigger." But some folks don't mind it and others seem to embrace it.

[–]BeyondWikipedia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO "Truth-seeker" seems to work better. "Truther" is a term that has been used to apply to any outlandish conspiracy theory. The Vigilant Christian on youtube referrs to himself as a truther in regards to his beliefs about the vast Satanic Illuminati NWO.

[–]Quantumhead 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hi Kevin,

Have a massive amount of respect for you buddy. Thanks for doing this AMA.

How often have you felt you have been personally attacked, misrepresented or slandered for continuing this area of research?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Often enough. The most persistent attackers are people who claim to be truth seekers. Usually others who begin to attack back off when they hear the evidence.

[–]Non-equilibrium 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Did you know burnt out cars were seen north of WTC7 before it collapsed? Ever come across any theories on what could have caused them?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yes, I have seen the roasted cars. Some firefighters sent me pictures of some of them in the underground garages before the WTC collapse. http://911blogger.com/node/15847 I believe they were roasted by thermitic materials.

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

The photos are gone from that Iink. :(

[–]PhrygianMode 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

http://web.archive.org/web/20110430202346/http://911blogger.com/node/15847

The wayback machine has been extremely useful in accessing 9/11 information that has conveniently gone missing.

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thank you!

Much appreciated!

[–]PhrygianMode 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sure thing! It's my go-to website when I come across a site that can no longer be accessed.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If anyone's feeling philanthropic it's one of the most worthwhile places to donate money too. :)

[–]Cecilia_Tallis2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally forgot about it.

Such a great resource.

Thanks again!

[–]spays_marine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a mystery I've never heard a fitting explanation for, can you elaborate how a thermitic material roasts a car? From the evidence we have it seems that this would've happened without the material getting ignited, as we didn't see a giant fireball but just clouds of dust after the collapse.

[–]PhrygianMode 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

You reference Thomas Cahill in your Environmental Anomalies paper.. In particular, you mention the Analysis of Aerosols from the World Trade Center Collapse Site, New York, October 2 to October 30, 2001 paper. In this paper, a quote reads:

The concentrations of very fine silicon, sulfur, and many metals, as well as coarse anthropogenic metals, decreased markedly during October, probably in association with the cooling of the collapse piles.

This seems to corroborate the statement in your paper:

"The occurrence of such extreme, sharp spikes in VOCs in air at GZ indicate something other than the behavior of a typical structure fire. Oxygen influx as a result of shifting of materials within the pile might have created an increase in combustion of material in localized areas. But these spikes in VOCs, at levels thousands of times higher than seen in other structure fires, suggest extremely violent but short-lived fire events. Probably the most striking spike in toxic air emissions, found in EPA monitoring data, occurred on 9th February, 2002. Note (Table 1 ) that this was nearly 5 months after 9/11, and after nearly all the debris had been cleared from GZ. In fact, the levels of some species, like toluene and styrene, were some of the highest observed at the site. But the levels of benzene and propylene detected on that day were far above previous measurements, at 610,000 and 990,000 ppb, respectively. Other VOCs were measured at their peak levels on this date, including 1,3-butadiene at 400,000 ppb." "EPA also monitored very fine particulate matter (PM) and other sizes of PM. PM is probably the most reliable indicator for the activity of structure fires, as such fires are generally known to burn incompletely, and produce PM that drifts up and outward from the source. EPA data from the West Broadway sampling site, the location closest to GZ where PM was monitored, show the following trend in very fine PM (PM 2.5 , or all particles \ 2.5 l m) in October and November 2001 (Fig. 4 ). These data show that the peaks in levels of very fine PM near GZ correspond to different dates than the peaks for the previously discussed combustion products. The five stron- gest peaks in PM 2.5 levels are centered on 23th, 26th September, and 3rd, 10th, 20th October, closer in time to the events of 9/11. None of these dates correspond to the dates of five peaks in VOCs noted above. Additionally, it is clear that the levels of PM 2.5 emissions rose more gradu- ally, and died down more gradually, indicating slower fire dynamics as might be expected from the burning of the organic materials previously thought to exist in the WTC. These data suggest that the greatest level of fire activity, associated solely with the typical fuel sources expected in the WTC, was completed by the third week of October. That is, the materials expected to burn (incompletely) in a structure fire, producing PM, were largely burned off by mid- to late-October. Therefore, the extreme spikes in air concentrations of the five VOCs noted above, particularly on 3rd, 8th November, and 9th February, point not to other sources of typical combustible materials but to other forms of com- bustion. Such forms of combustion appear to be violent and short-lived, and thus similar to the effects of energetic materials, like thermite"

Has Cahill or any of the other authors made any statements in regards to your paper?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

You see the problem. But no, I have not heard from Cahill. I believe he was copied on the paper by Cate Jenkins but I never heard from him.

[–]PhrygianMode 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I appreciate the response. Dr. Jenkins is another valuable whistleblower. Especially the information we discovered on the "independent" scientist James Millette. I remember reading that a judge ruled in her favor as far as the wrongful termination. Do you happen to know if there was an actual investigation into her original claim on the fraudulent WTC dust studies?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think there was what we would call an investigation but I believe her professional status was renewed. She agreed to let us publish her paper on the subject at the Journal. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/DrJenkinsRequestsSenateInvestigationOnWTCdust.pdf

Coincidentally, she and I shared the same lawyer at one point.

[–]PhrygianMode 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting. Thanks again.

[–]smokinbluebear 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Any thoughts about Philip Marshall?

...or Michael Hastings?


[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I remember Marshall writing a bad review of one of Griffin's books on Amazon. His logic was poor. Other than that, I never followed his writings but was sad to hear the story of the deaths of his family.

Hastings was the guy who crashed into a tree while working on an expose of the surveillance state, correct? Someone suggested that his car might have been rigged or commandeered through its onboard computer. You never know.

[–]smokinbluebear 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Excerpts from Micahel Hastings' book THE OPERATORS:

https://redd.it/2whkg9

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

RIP

[–]smokinbluebear 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thought the AMA went great, though...KR also said he'd check back for any follow-up questions...

THANKS to EVERYONE who participated...Hopefully we can have more AMAs...

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I agree it was a great AMA. To clarify in case there's confusion, the "RIP" was for Hastings, not this AMA.

Hopefully KR will give us a good recommendation?

That would be sweet.

[–]CthuIhu 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What is your #1 argument for swaying the opinion of truly intelligent people who accept the official story of 9/11?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

The collapse of WTC 7 usually works but people who consider themselves intelligent sometimes cannot see what is directly in front of them. Therefore, I would say that the multiple false explanations for destruction of the WTC, along with the multiple false explanations for the air defense failures, should help intelligent people see that something is being hidden.

[–]CthuIhu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

WTC 7 is my smoking gun that I present as well. I guess some people just don't WANT to see what's in front of them. It's too big.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

...but people who consider themselves intelligent sometimes cannot see what is directly in front of them.

Some interesting discussion on that subject by psychologists:

[–]northamerimassgrave 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

(1) Considering the evidence of "long-game" strategy preceding 9/11, should we not also take pause in considering long-game strategy post-9/11? Specifically a few things:

  • Could there have been "long-game" intent with the 28 pages? How much of the 28 pages is a designated failsafe; not merely a limited hangout, but a trap? I'm aware of your writing on why Saudi involvement equals U.S. involvement. But considering your work on Graham/Goss, which I find myself linking to frequently to rebut Graham's many credulous fans, could the 28 pages have been crafted/controlled as (among other reasons) a honeypot to intentionally jump-start & manipulate an HSCA-style "re-investigation" into 9/11, not only as a "centerpiece misdirect" but as a momentum-killer for other spectacular leads? Why wouldn't we anticipate that the example of 1977's HSCA would be on the minds of "inside job" participants as an example to be feared/learned from, as well as an opportunity, in leveraging a seemingly-inevitable "opposition party" re-investigation?

  • In another example of 9/11 "long-game strategy," your colleague & co-editor of Journal of 9/11 Studies, Graeme MacQueen, has pointed out the case of Gloria Irish, which seems to suggest a wider long-game plot, but more specifically a failed attempt to link the alleged hijackers with "WMD" toward an Iraq War justification. Are there any other such glimpses of "plan failure" on (or surrounding) 9/11?

(2) Would you consider doing a "Where Are They Now?" piece on the suspects, in light of the significance of their long-game patterns of behavior?

(3) Feel free not to answer any of the rest of these, because these questions are going into speculation here/into-the-fringe here: How long do you entertain the possibility of 9/11 long game to have been? Do you see evidentiary, strategic, or overall interrelated links between 9/11 & "Deep State Events" from other decades, such as Iran-Contra or OK City? In light of the many German connections to 9/11 (and other Deep State Events), are you aware of the Hitler "Amerikabomber" and Nazi links to the specific date of "9/11" (#2a, 42)? What do you make of the following news items, if any comment?:

(4) Why does President Obama seem to appoint only Bush Administration Neocons (even if they've been given a constructed legend to burnish their cred) to every intelligence chief position?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

1a) I think your question is a good one. Now that King Salman seems to have been cowed a bit, we don't hear much from those US congress members who were making such a racket earlier. http://www.911truth.org/bob-graham-and-the-missing-911-report-pages/

1b) The Irishes, Gloria and Mike, seem to be something of a leak in the plan. Mike Irish was the editor whose employee was the first anthrax victim. His wife Gloria just happened to have been a big helper of the alleged hijackers. That story needs follow-up.

2) Yes, I have considered it but have not found the time.

[–]SilentSpace 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Neocons planned and executed the attacks of 9/11 with the help of a subgroup within the Pentagon, MI6, Mossad and the Saudi monarchy.

The level of willful ignorance and shameless apathy is mind-boggling.

Moreover, there is so much misinformation and disinformation put out by the corporate media and on the internet.

i've done a lot of the time-consuming work of vetting the evidence for you already.

All you have to do is Look, Listen and Learn.

Let us speak to the facts and allow the facts to speak for themselves.

If you have evidence to the contrary, then bring it forward for all to see so that we can learn together.

Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Neocons-did-911/239525399425678

[–]BeyondWikipedia 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you think that the upper portions of the Twin Towers had any major role in their collapses? Tony Szamboti is advocating that demolition devices were used on the core columns and the corner-perimeter areas, but the upper portions did most of the work. Others advocate that explosive were the sole cause of all of the top-down pulverization of building materials.

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, I don't believe the upper portions of the towers, which were pulverized as the "collapses" began, played a role in crushing the remainder of each building.

[–]Rotundus_Maximus 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

There's a good deal amount of speculation of whether or not Trump will spill the beans about 9/11.

What would happen if Trump were to tell the truth of the involvement of the Saudis, the federal government ,and Israel?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Trump seems to be using the question of Saudi involvement for his own purposes. He doesn't seem like much a truth teller to me.

[–]Rotundus_Maximus 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm asking for your opinion on the ramifications of the truth coming out

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The ramifications of widespread acceptance of 9/11 truth include that it would call into question who we can trust. Many of our social institutions would be embarrassed or worse, including universities, media, and government. It's a high bar.

[–]smokinbluebear 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's why Jeb Bush dropped out--plus bringing GW's war crimes back in the minds of Americans wasn't a safe thing for the Cabal. (along with Jeb's low numbers, of course)

[–]merylnass1 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have you seen the documentary "JFK to 9/11: Everything is a Rich Man's Trick"? Do you find problems with Francis Conally's analysis?

[–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think I saw some of that. Don't remember it though.

[–]BeyondWikipedia -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He says that many people interviewed on 9/11 by mainstream news are paid actors (like Harley guy). He also calls Loose Change brilliant because they point out that the temperatures of jet fuel fires cannot melt steel. The third part of that doc kind of goes off the deep end.

[–]delelles 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have there been death threats since becoming a 9/11 whistleblower? I'm talking specifically about threats that rise above the average Internet-troll category.

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    [–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wood could not explain the physical principle by which "justification" occurred. Therefore her "Star Wars Beam" is an unlikely possibility. But there's more in the archives at the Journal of 9/11 Studies. http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters.html http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/Wood-JenkinsInterview.pdf

    [–]BrotherSpartacus -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Do classified weapons exist?

    [–]PhrygianMode 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    An article previously linked by /u/Kevin_R_Ryan in regards to nano(thermite) technological advancements makes the statement:

    However, researchers aren’t permitted to discuss what practical military applications may come from this research

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/403624/military-reloads-with-nanotech/

    So I'd be willing to bet the answer is, "yes."

    [–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Could be but how would we know - it would be classified.

    [–]flyyyyyyyyy -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    what happened to

    • 19,000 supporting steel trusses
    • 22,000 stainless steel doors
    • 4 huge generators
    • 64 4-ton transformers
    • 200 large elevator cabs, with counterweights
    • 23 miles of core columns
    • 32 escalators
    • thousands of toilets, urinals, and sinks
    • 6 acres of marble
    • nearly 45,000 windows
    • 20,000 wooden & steel doors
    • 40,000 door knobs
    • 20,000 miles of wiring
    • nearly 200 miles of copper pipe
    • nearly 200 miles of iron pipe
    • nearly 200 miles of PVC pipe
    • 40,000 cubicles
    • 45,000 desks
    • 45,000 chairs
    • 75,000 telephones
    • 45,000 monitors, keyboards, mice
    • 50,000 staplers
    • 50,000 file cabinets
    • 300 mainframe computers
    • 3,000 copy machines
    • 800 fire extinguishers
    • 5,000 vending machines
    • 7,000 rolls of carpet
    • 450 refrigerators

    why is none of this found in the wreckage - not to mention the bodies. just... dust. did thermite burn them all up?

    i guess maybe they smeared nanothermite all over the filing cabinets, and the copy machines, and the fire extinguishers, and the telephones, the doorknobs, the elevator cars... generators... staplers... and the bodies too. they smeared nanothermite on the people before they died i suppose.

    and for the record, i'm 99.9% sure judy wood's energy beam hypothesis is disinformation, so don't go pinning that crap on me.

    edit: heeeeere comes the brigade!

    edit2: ae911truth doesn't have an answer for this. that's because the demolition was thermonuclear. this is the big secret that they exist to hide:

    israel has access to thermonuclear devices within the usa and the willingness to use them on a civilian population. and they have plans for another nuclear false flag.

    [–]giantfrogfish -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    They turned to vapor or dust .

    [–]flyyyyyyyyy -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    apparently. sometimes staplers just do that. cheap chinese crap :grumble:

    [–]FatwaBurgers -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Considering that Operation Bojinka included the West Coast, any speculation on why 9/11 was primarily an East Coast operation? Are they saving the West Coast for the next one?

    [–]Kevin_R_Ryan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'd guess that the targets needed to make 9/11 an effective psychological operation were on the east coast more than the west coast. I'm not going to speculate about where the next major terrorist attack will occur.