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What does everyone think of this? (everydayfeminism.com)

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[–]6ThreeSided9 4ポイント5ポイント  (58子コメント)

Claiming that cisgendered white males cannot suffer from any form of discrimination or social injustice is not only incorrect, it's damaging to social justice as a movement. People suffer adversity in many different forms, and the binding glue that holds much of the social justice movement together is empathy. Telling people that their struggles don't matter because they aren't part of the three big ones only serves to marginalize people suffering real pain and divide the community.

[–]cavitycreep 0ポイント1ポイント  (57子コメント)

You're so right. Cisgendered white males must experience so much discrimination. God can you imagine how hard their lives must be made by other people? I swear they deserve a medal or something.

[–]6ThreeSided9 2ポイント3ポイント  (56子コメント)

I'm not saying that cisgendered white men are discriminated against for being cisgendered white men, I'm saying that claiming that there can't be any aspect about a cisgendered white man for which they are discriminated against for is just plain incorrect. They could be overweight, disabled, religiously (or a-religiously) discriminated against, etc. What you're saying is like talking about a gay white male and saying "Oh yeah, totally, white men are sooo discriminated against /s".

[–]cavitycreep 0ポイント1ポイント  (36子コメント)

Except we're talking about the group of people with the most privilege, so please excuse me while I play the world's smallest violin.

It's equivalent to "AllLivesMatter" vs "BlackLivesMatter".

[–]6ThreeSided9 4ポイント5ポイント  (35子コメント)

Except we're talking about the group of people with the most privilege.

Fat, autistic ugly people have the most privilege? You do realize that's what we're talking about, right? Again, what you're looking at is a few aspects of the person and saying that because they are those things they can't possibly be going through anything bad enough to justify needing to be considered and not insulted for their discriminated traits. Again, same example, that gay guy is white and white people are privileged so you don't matter to social justice. That is the equivalent of what you are saying.

[–]cavitycreep 0ポイント1ポイント  (34子コメント)

Fat, autistic ugly people

You don't even know what "neckbeard" means.

[–]6ThreeSided9 3ポイント4ポイント  (33子コメント)

I'm not sure that you do. These are things that are packaged into the term. Just look it up. Fat, socially awkward person likely living in a basement arguing about how feminism is awful etc etc. Maybe you aren't fully aware of all the things implied by the term, but they are there.

[–]cavitycreep 3ポイント4ポイント  (32子コメント)

The only thing that you mentioned in your last comment was "fat". It doesn't imply autistic nor ugly.

[–]6ThreeSided9 5ポイント6ポイント  (30子コメント)

I disagree. And so do many people in this thread, and the comic on which this thread is based. While it's true that autistic is not nessary to be called a neckbeard, the two are paired very often so it often implies it.

[–]cavitycreep 2ポイント3ポイント  (29子コメント)

the two are paired very often so it often implies it.

I've literally never heard it used that way. UrbanDictionary disagrees with you, too:

  1. (n) Facial hair that does not exist on the face, but instead on the neck. Almost never well groomed.

  2. (n) Derogatory term for slovenly nerdy people who have no sense of hygene or grooming. Often related to hobbies such as card gaming, video gaming, anime, et. al.

[–]metagameface 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe you should actually read the linked comic, which pretty clearly discusses how the term affects autistic people like myself.

[–]fosforsvenne 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

What you're saying is like talking about a gay white male

Except being a neckbeard is actually a bad thing.

[–]6ThreeSided9 7ポイント8ポイント  (17子コメント)

Oh? Being fat, ugly, autistic and having an unpopular style of facial hair is bad? Because that is what you're saying when you say that neck-beards are bad. Sure, there might be other bad things in there like misogyny that it's meant to be primarily talking about, but all the rest of that is coupled in, and that's where it becomes a problem. If you don't like misogynists, say that. If you don't like concern trolls, say that. Don't make a caricature using "undesirable" traits of people who are marginalized to make your point.

[–]fosforsvenne 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

Don't make a caricature using "undesirable" traits of people who are marginalized

How is the neckbeard stereotype a caricature of marginalized people?

[–]6ThreeSided9 2ポイント3ポイント  (15子コメント)

It's not a caricature of marginalized people, it's a caricature using traits of marginalized people. It's like the caricature of the greedy, immoral CEO being fat. It's not a caricature of fat people, it's a caricature of greedy people, but it uses the trait "fat" as a way to say "wow look how much this person sucks" which implies that being fat is bad.

[–]fosforsvenne 2ポイント3ポイント  (14子コメント)

it's a caricature using traits of marginalized people

What traits? What marginalized people are noted for being obnoxious, inconsiderate, having medieval gender views, and not shaving their necks?

Edit: removed loud, don't know what that had to do with neckbeards

[–]6ThreeSided9 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Fat people have the feature of being fat, ugly people have the feature of being ugly, autistic people have a number of varying features, including:

obnoxious, inconsiderate, loud

All these people are marginalized.

[–]fosforsvenne 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Autistic people are obnoxious and inconsiderate?!??!? I'm sure all the autistic people who don't like people using the word neckbeard are completely fine with you saying that.

And being fat and ugly aren't nearly as big parts of the word neckbeard as you make them out to be.

[–]Lolor-arros 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Jesus christ, seriously?